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[000:00:00;00] yes, but i had a childhood, i was in such a situation all the time that i was always third or fourth, that is, about 500, that is, i always lacked some hundredths of a point to climb this third step. and for me it would be already wow. i just have you sprayed emotions. i then in this medal. i just boasted to everyone i would come to school or kindergarten. uh, well, that's what you've been missing all along. and when i started first the third, then the second and up to the first. it seems to me that i only began to take first place with this george places, really. so all the time there was something to strive for, and there was also a lot of competition and not for any medals all the time. here's something you want. mom asks, here is the third place you will have something. that's what
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you want first. a hamster, then a rabbit, then a dog, and then a cat, that is, i chose animals all the time, then they got me. well, that is, we had a small apartment, so there were enough animals. and then there was already a phone, that is, all the time i was somehow motivated by something. yes, at this moment, you set such a starting point for yourself, when you fell in love with figure skating, that you felt that you were earning something, then there were 50 rubles. but still, i didn’t think that i would be engaged in figure skating all my life. i was watching then there were some grand prix there was lena rodionova lisa, i was looking at them, i thought damn, these are such big competitions. i will never get from this what they feel at this moment. hey, they're such
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superstars. i also wanted so, but most likely, i'm not in vain. i do not have the opportunity all the time. in general, somehow justified itself somehow felt sorry for herself. you never thought that you were from izhevsk and for example, lisa, who are we from glazov? i thought that they all sleep, but from moscow, and you remember your first salary when you got into the national team you are constantly bet, of course i remember. this is past. i remember that i performed in france in the city, it was somewhere in the mountains. for me it was like that. i am like that, it means that the equipment turned out yes, and for me then it was already something like a sign for someone to have such an achievement, yes, and i am proud. the power of this form in all this equipment flew. this is it in general, it was a significant day,
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and after which i was already at the rate, what did you buy for the first money you earned or your grandmother took everything. well, rather like that, that is , i understood that well, my grandmother is like that, that is, she was originally in my childhood all the time, what do you eat there, let me make you puffs. there promosh triangles. these are the tatar national dishes of t-shirts. yes, tea with sugar milk. that's all, and then, when they moved to moscow, she already began to be so warm. yes, well, in general, then moscow changed it, but i sort of understood why this was being done? i just say thank you for spending it. i just dig, that is. yes, for something so
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communication do not release opportunities with new tariffs and an mts premium subscription additional 50 gb of internet every month protection against spam calls excellent quality connections and access to ecosystem services online cinema book music. we continue our frank conversation as part of the free program podcast. our guest is alina zagitova. do you remember, uh, how in your family, the idea was ripe to try to move to moscow to try your hand at a stronger school of figure skating. this is a very interesting story. there were just some competitions in moscow, it was my first competition. in this city , events are also significant for me, because i think moscow wow. i've always wanted to go there.
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it's just, maybe, like, uh, some simple person to take a walk, and even here the competitions are outstanding for me. and i’ve been all the time all my life to me, well , like all my life, i’ll probably lie, probably not all my life, but the last two or three years there, and i just wanted to get there. uh, this georgievna group. and why did you know one of the vitzkaya girls to her. i think that everyone says that after sochi, many people wanted to get into her group. you watched the olympics on tv. do you remember? well, i didn't watch, i wasn't fond of curly ever. that is, i am so briefly some i watched competitive moments, alina zagitova didn’t see something for myself that distinguished my victory. i watched it, that is, i even reviewed some moments of these
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emotions that were at the end. i wanted exactly the same if i'm at the olympics let's go back all the same, how did you get to moscow and this georgiev is not there. where did you want to go, i think this is the first time when, in principle, i set my goal and achieved it for three years. i said, mom, come on, come on, come on , throw this idea that i want to go to moscow i want to train with eteri dahlias. take care, right? well, most likely, she thought they were some kind of children. however, she really believed. it's just that she, too, was afraid of my whole life, first they lived in the army, therefore, in
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izhevsk that is, these are small towns. not even millionaires. a very serious step. especially for adults already a conscious person. i mean, i didn't realize it. i didn't realize that it wasn't just there. i think that the parents were just afraid, that is, they also wanted a mother. yes, it is clear that this is in everyday life, it is very difficult, because there is also a younger sister who also goes to school, which also depends a lot, again, financial costs, that is, either the whole family has to move. yes, if dad has a good coaching job there, then parents will have to part. that is, this is really a very serious step . my parents took out a loan so that i could live in moscow, and all the time i do not finish talking about how i got to moscow for this competition. i did go there anyway . well, to put it mildly, not really. well, in general was somewhere. well, for twenty, probably after serialization we had , in my opinion, all the time ended with five, and we have
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a train around nine, so i don't remember, to be honest, but a very short interval between the introductions and the train. come on, yes, and in the end it's all right, we got together, and quickly on the subway in the same place. it's big there. we need to get some direction. yes, that's all, in the end we got our bearings and found out the schedule. mom went down. eh, down. they just had a workout. uh-huh. so she talked, as my mother tells me later, and she asked what place taken? what is your name? she watched the performance here a few. this is how it looks, simple. well, there was a performance about nothing at all. i was somewhere in the top twenty, but you seriously think, well, as if, probably, now
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i understand that i should approach such a coach with such results, but to put it mildly, it’s very shameful because you need to have something. behind my berth, but somehow we have, then i thought. damn, here i am now 20. here's what i do. i so want. and that there were a lot of thoughts, but in the end she said this. let's look at the ice. yes, but i first came to warm up. my heart is pounding like this. well, in general, there were a lot of people, i'm still shy and so, then all the stars. that is, there were lipnitskaya, there was lipnitskaya, polina zhenya, there was tarasenko voronov
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. in general, the whole team was white light, they went on the ice. eh, i was somewhere around 30-40 minutes i rode, jumped, said goodbye to glided. this georgievna says, well, let's take you to see after the new year. but it's not yet certain that they took us to the group, but yes, but i was already so happy, as if i was riding there, and my mother and i missed the train a little later. they just threw it in. that's how the suitcases got on this train. eh, in a hurry. he's just on his way. well, you remember, it's like yesterday, that is, the same train that you and your mother jumped on the go. in principle, this was your lucky ticket, so that later you could return and start your career as the great champion in moscow. do you remember the day when we personally met for
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the first time, i was already skating. and we had fees in sochi sirius and then i had something autograph session. i even have a photograph, but you did not pay attention to me. i was like that too, but for me to stand even with you. it was already something supernatural, as if you were standing with a superman, so this energy really exists. well, it is felt when the champion is already worth it. so you have had this energy. well, there is another story. well , i will explain why i did not notice alina zagitova, because alina zagitova in this photo is standing right here right behind me. and of course, i've been pushed like that. yes i remember. tell the story of your olympic medal. you often watch it, sleep with it, keep it, in
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fact, no. okay, i'm just hanging, and on the medal, with which i was presented with my fans. there is such a very beautiful one and just here are two medals, one is silver and the other is gold. i hardly touch them. that is, before. here i went to bed. i took it off on purpose so as not to forget where i put it in the olympic village. when i was silver, i specially, i even have a video where a i i just took it from us, there was nothing so for the medals there is a special one, so i put it on the video and photographed it in order to watch it in the morning. was it not a dream at all? now i understand that it’s just with me all the jokes there about the lucky ticket and so on. this is colossal work. just talking even with your coaches. they still admire the way you worked, there is the olympic season and so on. that is, in the olympic season you already understood that there is this chance, and you will put
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everything on the altar. here is this olympic dream. now i can tell. this is from the morning. i had training at 8:00 in the morning. that is, 7 clearly, like a bayonet. i also came to the skating rink before everyone else, mom, i just didn’t wake up. this is what ok took? went and then ah. i had an extra stretch, then i went to school, then four somewhere i was engaged. uh, i went to school, and then i went to the skating rink again. and the vp then the ice is also for an hour and a half, it’s clear that it wasn’t like that, intensively, maybe i messed around somewhere, but i’m sorry, i had a schedule for years, that is, discipline is present, yes, then, uh, i had additional gpp classes . an additional stretching class, where i
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just sobbed and came out covered in snot. uh, then she went to the skating rink in order to work out separately with the uh coach. that was the moment. all the time i went to the training camp in agryz to one coach, who taught me to use the bait. how to jump correctly, and yes, when the hernia is an hour away, that is , every time my mother drove me back and forth and there was a moment when my mother and i flew into a ditch and the car turned over because it was raining. rain can't see anything, roads terrible, they are narrow, and my mother was simply afraid to meet the wagon or did it, and she, apparently, was so carried away that she crossed us. here, that is. i am also a happy shirt, it turns out i was born then. here, well, there were such moments, that is, uh, it's not like that i ride there once, and everything is at the training camp.
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we also had moments when, after all the training, just for one training session, which george did not go to when he was 12, and the olympic champion. yes, of course, that's how the training camp would be after, it seems, we had two days, uh, there were lines, that is, we went out and handed over in a row and then they gave us, and someone distinguished themselves with some gifts. that day, something jumped there or worked out there. fine? well, they gave it some kind of present, they gave a small one to someone, they gave a watch to someone with bags. and they gave me all the time some little rubber bands , one rubber band. i was so happy. you just can't imagine it all meant that i would not go. after this line run around the rink for 30 circles, then uh 100 on one pistol 100 on the other pistol, jump rope more jumping. i then came all there already slept.
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and i, uh, like this, quietly passed and went to bed. that is, uh, and it always was the same one, if they didn’t give me something, even this little rubber band. i ran all the time. and here it was with me all the time, therefore, that is, here it is the path of that very little girl in a red tutu, whom we all saw in 18, there was a lot of things, that is , even today to retell it, but also such directly distinct bright moments. now i'm telling. thank you for this, by the way. very interesting, both about the accident and about returning again. that's when i asked you a question at the beginning of our conversation, and in the future about whether you think that your children, for example, become athletes. this is one of the reasons why something about them my children are athletes, because i don't know if i can be the same as our parents, who drove us. uh, so you live this
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life of a skater. that is, i lived it myself and still have to live the life of this skater. for that is only already worth it. there is a fence, again at some point of your child. where in some way limiting somewhere, maybe i strictly communicate with him, directing him. that is, i don’t know if this big video is ready , of course, the parents are playing, of course, i ’m insanely grateful, because if it weren’t for them, well, i think that nothing would have happened. well, that is, imagine taking a loan, for what, that is, it’s not even clear here. will your child, huh? well, even the national team will he get at all, well, here i, of course, now understand what it is? so many misunderstandings, and they still kind of believed in me and hoped if you ticket was happy, then your parents. it was a lottery ticket, that is,
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either yes or no, and you feel responsible, in general, that your parents did so much. i don't have to give a slack in training there, because my parents credit everything is invested in me at this moment. there were no such thoughts. that is, when i arrived, why did the real one kick me out. she says, uh, that i, as it were, messed up, didn’t finish something, but the girl who came from izhevsk, as it were, how to give all the best, that is, at that moment, it seemed to me that i was spreading it like that. i just came. i was without legs, without hands with hematomas. i lay like this and, well, just like that, i fell asleep in the same way. there, in the subway or on the bus, that is, there was really no strength. and you just don't understand how it works. and it takes time for you to get used to this pace of work once you got used to it, that is, at that moment.
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i felt like i was doing my best, but i didn't do anything. well, as it were, there is also such a moment, uh, you need to work it out and you need time for this so that you understand how really work, and then when you returned , that is, what changed, that is, you found all sorts of some new resources, and or did you realize what you need to do to make the coach change this anger is full? i just started working out in the gym. i didn't pay attention to any little things. that is, i was like eating a horse. this is how it was for me. that is, i didn’t pay attention to anyone at all, and i ran faster in the morning. to the gym because i understood that now i have worked at least a little. yes, i'm already one step ahead of my opponent.
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then i worked again in the evening. here i am one more step and that is, i competed so much. uh, and left the bar, who i look up to and in order to somehow surpass, yes, and these are the moments. i myself somehow you yourself came to this very cool things. that is, it is really very cool that you come to training and be. uh, now i'm teaching my athletes that while you are engaged in destruction. for example, if they argue and swear. i say someone is training, and you have already lost those 5 minutes to their main rival, because they are now training and you are sorting things out here, it didn’t come to this right away. i mean, they helped me. this grandmother's parents experience as an athlete. now the coach was also explaining to me . it's clear that i didn't understand the child. he cannot come to this himself, well, as if this is a rare case, in any case, he is led to this, but through conversations. uh, that is,
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in the morning i began to analyze conversations about figure skating. and i made a plan for the day in the evening. i discussed what i had done in the morning, the plan began again. and that is before sleep. i thought that and because in the morning my grandmother asked what you would do and you had to answer, and in the evening i lay there and settled into my plan for the day. well, that is, e somehow came to this, in any way not by herself, because, well, the laziness of children is always present, then only you understand this, why do you need it? it's just a question. u, not let your parents down. i didn't realize it then, because a lot of things were kept secret from me , and i lived quietly. i think that everything is fine and then i already understood how i overheard some conversations there and i understood that, well, i had to somehow. seriously, yes,
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the coaches should also take this into account. all the time they said that look, if you work now, you will be. this is it and you can help with this and that, i soaked it all up and thought, i really can help my parents, and i have a chance to need it not yes, to put it mildly, and this motivated me and for a moment i will interrupt you about what you are saying, this is modesty. it is connected with the fact that somehow she shared more with her family or, nevertheless, she continued to save money - they stayed. that is, for the same for several years. it's not like 100,000 yes , not even 200 how much a figure costs, when they are about and in general life in moscow, in
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any case, parents saved up money and tried to help their parents close loans. just the same, it was not necessary. what is the task of buying something for myself, that is, of course, i watched it there. i think, damn, i want too, but you know, they were different, and then, when everything was already restored, plus i started to somehow think about that hobby, well all in fact, here now people think too. yes, many haters say there, here she goes there, uh, brands. eh, what does she allow herself? well, that is, what i earned, then i allow it. well, yes, well, people don't understand
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how hard it was, therefore, sometimes it's even a little bit ashamed to walk in brands. i confess. but how would alina have been you all your life , uh, since childhood, because, well, you became a star quite early, and you were already talking in the context of a rival. yes, there for our main hope at the olympic games, which would have affected her for 2 years the leader was argued, then there is this young star winning the european championship from those very times you read about yourself on the internet. constantly some envious comments. all the time you have something wrong, how do you deal with it, you don’t like it when they talk. a star is this, that is, i even have a tongue. now it happens that i say this, because i think that we are still people. well, all the same, they are the same as everything
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visually. we have the same arms, the same legs the type of activity in which we would have realized, but ourselves, it’s just luck, too, in many ways. the chick put you there like that , did something, and that's how it happened. well, that is, anyway, this is not entirely true, because you also have to work. well, of course it is anyway, i just know a lot of athletes who have worked very hard and bet their whole lives on it, but just not lucky. that is, you never felt offended, maybe from that amount. feces that are poured on you on the internet, of course there are
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moments when you just laugh. yes there, like, well, what kind of nonsense is this? misunderstanding for what? you don't even know the man of your job. yes, every day there is a subhuman person who finds some kind of person. it's just people offended by something. perhaps, perhaps there are some complexes in themselves that are dissatisfied with something. and, perhaps, i just don’t like me visually, that is, there are such moments, i don’t like visually. it seems to me that this is a very philosophical conversation . but you're not going to write to me in the comments tronkov. hit yourself at the wall untill you die. right eh no
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or even wrote should answer. why did i write, right? and just do the gluing, no? i really love it. this is what i like when all this is written to me by alexei konstantinovich , who can afford to answer any comments there. actually. it's psychological. well, it kind of psychologically helps when you answer a person, but you, uh, you can already, as it were , objectively tell the person why and figure it out. i'm like a person who loves all the time there to dig into yourself and figure it out. why does a person behave this way towards me, i want to ask all the time why or there come up to me to ask or say something and we'll talk, i'm calm, as if i communicate openly with everyone, you know. a lot of my
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all my schedules. where am i going. come on, why haven't you had anything like this yet, because well, it must be explained that alexei konstantinovich is alexei konstantinovich yagudin, the 2002 olympic champion, who is 42 years old, therefore, probably he can to answer e to different people sofa critics. and when you are a little girl and you read some things. well now you're already yes but once you were a little girl. well, i just closed myself. i spoke very little, practically did not give interviews and did not communicate with anyone, only with my grandmother and coaches sometime because of offensive comments. i want to say no how
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strong the girl is, huh? well, for those who have just joined us, let me remind you that this is a free program podcast. my name is maxim tronkov. well, i'm visiting the olympic champion. alina zagitova. tell us a little about this triumphal olympics. it turns out that you were the smallest at these olympic games in our national team, you were the daughter of a regiment, or well, maybe someone helped you and peeped to do your job and didn’t go anywhere. all the girls are now talking like this, but it's such an interesting trigger experience, just lived, near the front door. and i lived a little further. i just passed every time there was a gym in the village. i
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went down to the gym. there was a need open the door, but she naturally starts writing there. and immediately leaves where she went, there are burgers, well, there’s no type in the gym. well, that is what i understood. i didn't even go there. where uh hmm here is all the food, yes , the dining room did not go, so as not to tempt yourself. why are you specially placed in such a way to control? i don’t even know if this is true. i am grateful to this person who settled me like this, because the result is on the face. yes, you spoke very touchingly about the first form you received. and in general i i'm talking to the guys. and well, mostly these are guys younger than me. i live a lot of warm memories, because i had the same moments. that is, i also remember my first outfit. i remember how i
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called my dad there from a payphone and said that my dad had finally given me a form. and now, that is 2018. you already get the olympic equipment, you already have a ticket not for the izhevsk train, you are in a hurry with the viewing, you have a plane ticket to korea, do you remember, it's like what was in your heart? what do you experience these moments are very vague, because at that moment i didn’t think about equipment, but about where i was going, that is, such thoughts flashed by, yes, and these are all the same , whether you like it or not - they will be, but i tried to take them as much as possible from myself and think only about training. here i am the only thing i remember, what i thought, only training.
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i didn’t think about anything about the plan. i listened to the coaches and followed all their instructions, that is. this is wise. yes, it prevented me at my first olympics euphoria, which i tried to restrain myself. i think i got up so much there were no such thoughts. in any case, it was a joy and there the grandmother began to speak, so you can imagine that the olympic games or there my mother started. it's so stop, the rooms were locked, and that's it, all sorts of serials looked. well, after the olympics. when did the realization come? well, you did it, that you are now an olympic champion. i didn't have time to realize this
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exactly when they put on a medal on these very yes middle plaza, uh, put on. i look at her conscious, then. i for a second i realized later, there were already some events , some interviews, to which the maximum fell on me simply, because i walked all this way as a closed person. and then you have to open up, you don’t understand how you see it in new people, they want something from you. in general it was, therefore, does not learn not to train. it's all experience. and you changed in 2018, because it’s better to ask the people who walked this path of mine from beginning to end, purely internal , i think. wants to change your worldview anyway. your understanding of the world life to you does. a strong and wise man who
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must overcome any obstacles, probably with his head held high. it doesn't even have to. i guess i don't like this word. maybe they don't owe anything to their family. no, you don't have to, do you want to, today we 're talking? i still have to make it as comfortable as possible for you to communicate. you want to do what i want and have to. okay, thanks for coming to light today. our wonderful broadcast shared with us very interesting stories. especially from of his childhood. i was definitely very interested. i want to wish you that you do not stop fearlessly as well, rush into any pool, try absolutely any undertakings. and may you have success in everything and may only good luck accompany you today
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at the interview. i came great. do not worry, because we are always following all your successes. and this is really, really not defeated and invincible alina zagitova. we are visiting here on the podcast, paws on the first i am maxim trankov, and i say goodbye to you. hello this is a witty podcast with you. i am svetlana dorogan. and today i will answer your questions, because for me it is a great value that you respond, and to this
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podcast on this knowledge that you are interested, and it is always very pleasant, and i understand that we are doing our job. not in vain. tell me, please, about the children who will be born in this corridor of eclipses with me. uh , apparently, the last birthday right on the lunar eclipse on may 5 falls and dreamed during pregnancy more than once of the full moon, how does the eclipse affect people in general, born on such days, but firstly, but this concept of an eclipse corridor, it has become very fashionable and you might think that an eclipse corridor is, well, the same position of the planets during the month. or at least two or three people. it's not like that, the planet is moving. these are very different things a person was born at the moment of the sun. what an eclipse or a lunar eclipse, this says a lot about how he will manifest himself in life. they have only one thing in common, that of those who were born
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