a well-known person, uh, and nabokov published her first early stories precisely in the steering wheel and so that no one would confuse them. and he didn't accuse me of being sloppy. yes yes. so he chose such a pseudonym for himself, and he actually became a very famous interesting fact. uh, that the name vladimir nabokov is precisely the literary name vladimir nabokov, he signs it for the first time with lolita and it is interesting that in the preface of the clalit he himself writes that at first he wanted to, uh, anonymously release this novel under some pseudonym, but then decided that it was the mask will hurt him much more than it will do him any good, and therefore he is resolute to sign this novel with his real name. and after that it already becomes a global brand, it is by them that vladimir nabokov and all his old novels are also already published under his new name correctly, that is, we can say that nabokov uh, how nabokov was born

precisely on the novel lolita of course, if it were not for lolita, there would be no nabokov as we understand him now and today and this created him in the world. glory of course. it was a scandalous novel, one must understand that in the fifties is such a topic. well, we all know there about nine lorenz and, as it were, but the trial that was over his book, that is, in those days, censorship was very strong, especially on the topic of sex, and therefore, as it were. well, of course, he deliberately chose such a scandalous topic, and in order to attract attention, he knew perfectly well what the reaction would be, he could not find the publishing house of the publishing house that released the first election was in paris in paris that produced pornographic erotic novels, but he went for it too, as if it was an important move, but in fact , as always, as always with any novel, with any writer of this andrei, there is some kind of luck. uh, and some

under the circumstances, that is, uh, actually, if not for the very famous english writer grain greene, he noticed this novel being published. in this strange review, i wrote a review and everything went further, as it were. andrew, please. here you are a writer. how difficult is it for a writer to take and change the language, is it difficult, or what do you think, we know that nabokov was fluent in english and had an english governess . he is english. i mastered earlier than the russians. as far as i know, he was a pure bilingual, but i never forget his aphorism writers of the motherland are brilliant. this is his language. it is obvious that he was belingovaya, as if in its purest form, that is, he thought in a mixture of two languages. i guess and

he has a preface to lolita which is more interesting than roman himself and there he is very curiously describes how he translated this novel from english into russian and how literary russian differs from literary english, despite the fact that he was fluent in both languages, but he writes there that it is about technology, fashion, and natural sciences and unnatural passions. it is much more convenient to write in english than in russian, because all the technical terminology, at least almost everything in the russian language, came from english from german and other languages ​​​​and from latin , conventionally produced, here but in russian has its advantages and certainly. for me, he is a russian writer, so nastya claims that he certainly had a market. reckoning to write a novel lolita andrey is recognized by andrey, and here again

nabokov compares the russian language and the english language, uh, with a young brilliant, but not very educated young man. eh, this is the russian language, but with a mature genius, eh, who has the freedom of the spirit. explain why this is happening, that is, the russian language seems to be younger and less experienced on its side, because the literary and russian language appeared with us only in the 18th century, is the russian language definitely younger, or precisely the literary one in which we now write books. uh, it starts with pushkin, no, it starts there among the window. here is the middle from lomonosov. this is the end of the 18th century, and before him there were lomonosov among the windows and twilight, which they actually created. russian literary that is not colloquial, namely the artistic literary russian language by this time, but

english literature. swift was already there and that's it. there the parliament was already there was, but certainly much older. one cause, another cause, not unknowable. why is english such a language? and the russian is like this, it’s like the sacrament nastya, please tell me. you, too, belin, as a bellingua person thinks, what difficulties he has and what advantages he has. the problem is that, as scientists who deal with this issue have already proved, and languages ​​​​they are always, as it were, at enmity with each other. they uh, always try to get each other out, that is not the head. yes, that is, it's not like, here you are in perfection, you know, there are two languages, and you just like that at the click of a button, of course, all the time someone is trying- this is one of the languages ​​that tries to dominate and the features of the writer. you are always immersed, as if in this language, and

you suddenly have to change it for another. it doesn't matter what, of course, he grew up there spoke english, and wrote, as it were, and so on , naturally, all english literature. but nabokov spoke very interestingly, he is in the preface to his, e, collections of essays, which is called strictly singing with strong like me opinions, yes, but he wrote that he, but thinks, like a genius, that he writes like great writers, that he speaks like a child, and i believe that this is precisely due to his peelingism. and even when he became superstar, he refused to give. uh, just oral interviews. they should always only in a letter only in a letter. he always had these cards on which he wrote. novels and on them he wrote answers to all interviews, even if it was a television interview, he

felt helpless in advance of the speech and had to prepare in writing. yes, and i think that this is precisely due to bellingualism, because, uh, it’s very difficult to find the right word at the right moment when you’re just saying, well, it’s like for me now, too, because i, as it were, mostly whitewashed in english, yes, sometimes it’s also difficult for me to find the right word exactly exactly and nabokov when he began to translate lolita back into russian. he, as it were , writes that for me this is a personal tragedy, that here he is, as if on the one hand this is coquetry, because, of course, how well he knew the russian language, but on the other hand, of course, he was of time a and distance, uh, separated from his homeland russia well, for example, he calls jeans cowboy pathology. and some more food. didn't know how to translate. although in russia they already knew what popcorn is. he somehow strangely translates it there too, but it is very interesting that he uses some very unexpected word formations there.

there, we would say now a sticky dog. yes, he writes the dog or there many-eyedness. he is, as we would now say , many-sidedness, he writes there many-sidedness. yes, that is, he is relatively speaking, he, uh, yes , he feels the language, but somehow in a completely different way to use the same word in english, oily. it's like that too. you could say it's a neologism. he did not invent it, but it is such as if he introduced him into the world nature. yes, yes, and uh , this is just a little bit. here are the mistakes that occur due to the fact that you uh confuse a little bit of language or sometimes extended sometimes by accident, and they just enrich his literature. yes their style is born. so to speak. and andrey tell me please, do you think that the choice of this topic?

yes, this is a vicious passion for minors, blowing up moral foundations, but it was planned for the letter in order to enter the world market so that everyone would recognize it. it seems to me that well, after reading lolita now i understand that the novel is too complicated for the american public, and the plot is very understandable and simple. that is, at the level of the plot. he also needed , relatively speaking, to blow up. yeah no morals there is no morality in art - this is a class concept for a serious artist. no, no morality. and no boundaries at all. it can't be, he is absolutely free inside his work, that's another matter. i repeat once again. did he want to blow up. well, nastya says that she wanted him to have a conscious marketing calculation for the american market to be cultural and cultural mask and generally english-speaking. it is impossible to get there, and in order to sound there , you just need to blow up infinitely everything around, otherwise you are simply unnoticed. i think, what can be compared and limonov for example, what is

the topic? yes, i also wanted to blow it up. and through what we russian writer likes to blow up through erotica. we are well, understand in our culture, what is erotica? there is just, uh, a theory that was, as it were, put forward back in the sixties by an american professor, lionel trilling, that nabokov simply writes in a long tradition, and he calls love literature . uh, how would the sources of this in general be to medieval literature to troubadours, who sang of such love, and it was always love outside of society. it was always love, the opposite of love in a marriage of some kind of normal relationship, and it was always tragic. love always ends tragically, impossible love, and this is real passionate love, and here he traces, as it were, the evolution of this, as it were , genre of the yes genre through literature and in the 19th

century, the culmination of this julter's novel. and this is fludbearer. this is tolstoy, she is karenina tamri and so on. she says the way lolita is mentioned. yes, of course, of course, because nabokov deliberately plays with all these traditions. he knows perfectly well what he fits into. well, of course, by the twentieth century, when he writes lolita a deltar no longer shocks anyone. lolita is the modern anna karenina in a sense, it seems to me that there are a lot of parallels, one can draw, but first of all, this is it, this is the genre, but about forbidden love, it ’s impossible to love andrei, how do you think, lolita is a novel, love or everything? here nastya said. for me on foot, let the passion love and love and peishan. love is three different concepts. for me, as for a person who thinks that he speaks the literary russian language, not only do you think that you speak russian,

there is no love, there in lolita it is impossible to have a full-fledged relationship between a 12-year-old girl and an adult man. this is, firstly, and secondly , from a moral point of view, this is pure mesolation, because this is a us dollar petty bourgeois, she is spiritually far from the main character, he describes her as a bright representative of nabokov. that's precisely the bourgeois middle class. she loves movies zhelёchnoe. this not the only heroine he has is like that, he has many of them. look at the final. he finds this dolores uh, lolita who once ran away from him. yes, he finds her after 3 years, and she has already grown. she's pregnant, she's in some dirty hole. e with some simple worker and he will see that her beauty has faded. she ceased to be not an infertian, that is, she ceased to correspond to his framework, let's say

, of erotic interests, and nevertheless. he writes that he loves her and wants her to be with him. that is, he is ready to cross through these limits. is this not proof, after all, rather love, he feels at this moment, when he says that he loves he feels for her. well, as if nostalgic feelings are such a comrade of a former comrade. well, how can she leave him in the final scene is very, uh, touched by the fact that he comes to her. he she returned to where he took her to the world of the inhabitants. he may be nostalgic for the days when he was possessed. well, again. he cannot enter into spiritual unity with her, because it was not, and about the manic. well , listen to this hubert, he married her mother, whom he hated. the fact is that i am nabokov's erotica. i have not been able to figure it out. what women strove

to drive even sideways. even though he had one wife. here she had some kind of masha described. so tender in the first novel. he has a lot of women of the bourgeois class, boring, and petty-bourgeois, uninteresting , shallow. they pass from novel to novel and his girls are the same, but for some reason he describes them. and there is opposition of europe to old europe because humbert is french yes , half french, sweden and he that is why he is so pompous and in general, it is true that he does not know some american cultural codes and e. this is lolita who loves. uh, movie stars, fashion magazines, and above that, she can't jump, but still, she's a typical american. and if there are some complex relations between europe and america in this novel. well, the novel is built on the opposition, of course, of these two worlds, as

would be the old measures and the new world. and this is also built on the language, that is, this grandiloquent humbert language and slang, and lolita and the cannibal. oh, boy, she has three and a half words. yes, yes, although, how should we remember that we hear lolita only through the words of the governor. we never hear her voice. that is, as it were, here is her image, as a petty bourgeois, firstly, she is 12 years old, yes, as it were, what do we expect from a teenager, as if her interests are quite normal; in fact, nabokov considered this his love letter to america and he is very worried when he was accused of being a parody there, that he was something of snobbery and so on more than when he was accused of pornography. ah, i mean, uh, for him, this was actually chanting. here she answered almost all the states of america as well. eh, so that's all he wrote. he

wrote down everything he heard. there are some words at the gas stations and so on. it was very important for him to catch this one, and from the middle of the world he sometimes describes the middle world of america, which he wanted , this life, from which he designed, yes, this flesh and at the same time roman really. it's shown in places as vulgar as uh surface surface, huh? hey, this podcast is a must-read. i am aglaya, nabatnikova director and writer, my guests are the writers andrey rubanov and anastasia tolstaya, a specialist in nabokov e, a literary critic translator into english, we are discussing lolita and a novel that is made by a letter by a world star. andrey, please tell me, i know what you love, and he is an example of russian language skills for you, but at the same time time, he is very cold and it seems to me that he does not like his heroes. it doesn't turn you

off in your best books. he loves, of course, his heroes, because it is impossible for him, and he loves the governor and understands him and this lolita, too, us dollars. he, too, either he loves her, or tries to love her, as he tried to love america because he came there, because she gave him shelter, she gave him some more or less prosperous life, which he was deprived of his entire life up to 40 years he was poor. and he glorified with you. she gave him no. well, as if, again, through europe, first it was printed in france , then in england. and only then, in some fifty-ninth year, through america, it was not banned in fifty-eight. well, no matter how they forbade america, there was a puritanical side, but it describes to the letter that these are those subscribers who subscribed to themselves this french edition. let's say this is a dubious publishing house, and they let him through at the border

, and only then, uh, american publishers, making sure that the customs officers let this book pass from europe to america, only then did not agreed. e publish, but nevertheless prohibitions. it wasn't in america. this is what nabokov describes that there were bans in other countries, but specifically in america, the novel was not banned, oddly enough, although america is indeed a very parisian country, the funniest thing, that there is a contradiction in this, as it were, inside america and which i am sure, nabokov, as it were, realized that in the most conservative states where is the most expressed puritanism, as it were. these are the same states. where? eh? just the opposite, marriages between there are allowed, they are completely allowed there twelve-year-old girls in the fifties . that is when he writes this novel. are there states in america where it's legal? well, of course, he was a man of the european old culture, who came to the new culture and wanted to please those people, although he, as it were , also does not keep silent about these

shortcomings, including this one here, but about the lack of taste. he has the so-called general public, because i think lolita about it, well, well dead laughs. uh, lolita's passion for cinema, like an army films, however. he himself, in my opinion, would like to be distorted, but he himself wanted to get into the cinema. and at least. when i read a novel, i see what is written. somewhat graphic. i would say that the final , uh, was written absolutely according to the precepts, and the masters of uh hollywood and uh, really the film adaptation of lolita did not keep itself waiting, it made itself wait. means 53rd year, he finishes lolita film comes out 602nd 9 years. and he was already over 60, although he wanted to get into the cinema all his life from his youth. he filmed even as an extra in berlin uh-huh 10

marks. he worked out. it got into roman masha, there is a cross-cutting theme, the sale of the shadow of a person, but er, of course, he did not like cinema and could not love it, because cinema, from his point of view, was too rude entertainment. again, for the general public with andrei, because it seems to me that he is not everyone, but he did not like. i just don’t even remember how it is now, but there were some very popular american comedies that he loved very much, he writes about it himself, and moreover, he took a lot of tricks from the cinema and you are even in the camera obscura. eh, the scenes where he shoots from above, like a frame, a and describes from the car an absolutely cinematic frame. that is, this literature has never had a lot of editing of this whole idea, which, as it were , came from nabokov's cinema, not only did he try to write his books. indeed, as if they were scripts to be taken,

to attract attention. uh, and he was all right, and you kept promising that they would film it, and now, maybe you can even tell more about it. here but uh lolita didn't seem to be able to do it. well there are two adaptations of adrian lyne's lolita da that took 9 1/2 weeks and also just high average adrenaline which is like 9.5 weeks of erotica. yes, erotica 9.5 weeks its better uh, and here nabokov is just like such a high-class commercial hmm lolita adrian. here, well, well, but the kubrick did it. i think there is a cool lolita 14-year-old girl. he filmed with yul yes. 12, but he was told that it is impossible for a 12-year-old wheel in such a roller. uh, use so they took 14 years. she became a star and a movie

approaching 2 million. gathered nine. superwere, providing owls. in general, as i understand it, she later ensured a quiet life until the end of the years, because apparently he received royalties. and we can say that nabokov sold his soul to the devil, that he took dr. faust, just such a gloomy manic criminal passion, led it into culture. that is, it seems to me that lolita and not all of this is copied by many later works, and in general, well, we can say that he generally blew up the culture with this plot, when you do something, you write a book or a movie or a picture or a song, you compose or you dance, and you still sell your soul. you are giving it away. in exchange for what you do, whether you sell to the devil or to someone else, i don't know, but it's all the same about exchanging your

personality for something that enters your soul. well, of course i would. and here is the devil, as if for a man whose father was killed and you understand who fled the country with his parents, it seems that this is the motherland, as he said, i took russia on the soles of my boots. he didn't lose. he seems to disagree this statement. eh, here, but at the end of his life he just said that i am an american writer of russian origin who lives in switzerland and wrote his novels in germany, but i don’t remember, he is a cosmopolitan. now he openly called or there was such a word there, as it were, what the term was not, as it were, i say mobile , some words arise in his years there was no word movie star, but he is called a film actress. well, that's great, but the fact is that he just loved words very much. in fact. he wrote all his he was in cambridge when he was student, he happened to be at a fair at a sale. on some found a four-volume

dictionary, he wrote all his novels with these tones on the table. that is, he kept uh, choosing words, and then i steal words from her from nabokov, as if they were writers, this is normal. i noticed with you, well, i'm andrei's wife. i carefully read his books, and there are. when i read the letters, i see directly the words that andrei fell in love with, for example, a drug, when it comes to medicines, but he himself i know that he has very good ones. uh, again, in my opinion, in the gift says, i sit down or in other shores. i'll read page five of pushkin's prose the captain's daughter, or bekkin's stories, a sample of russian literature. and then i sit down to write my own. here is pushkin, as it were, you still cannot meteorize pushkin. well, in this state, i did the same way, that is, i have a lot of all kinds of

advice and read captain america was also written. uh, there is worth reading this year 150 years, from the moment tolstoy started writing one karenin and uh, there are a lot of funny ones. e. so start this novel. uh, this novel was originally called well done woman. yes, yes, and uh, actually the impetus for writing this novel was belkin's tale, he had not finished reading it. there is an unfinished story. pushkin and uh, tolstoy read it, so what? e pushkin starts in the middle of the action. eh, it’s like a story that he doesn’t just somehow describe something there, but just an action right away. and this is how you should write. and so it was, as it were, an impetus in order to start it knees. naturally. this then resulted in something completely different, by the way, bowed before the fat one. nabokov i want to say that when i the first time i read lolita i was 15 years old and i had a completely different perception than

today, when i read this novel , i re-read it, because now i am already the mother of a teenage girl. uh, here's actually our daughter andrew. here i see it in a completely different way. that is, when i was 20 years old, it seemed to me that firstly, er, if we consider lolita to be a chess game that nabokov plays with the reader. yes, that is , the reader is forced, and to play this game, yes , and either follow the governor and believe him, or no, yes, because hubert is charming in his own way. yes, he looks handsome, he knows languages , he has great taste. and in general, in his own way, he cares whether he seduces not only lolita but also count. yes, and now we can say that i was 15 years old and nabokov won this game. well, in general, by a huge margin, because i liked the province. you thought it was a great life. they travel, she drinks coke, and he buys her new clothes. and she doesn't have to go

to school. it's all so great. and it's so mysterious and he's so handsome and he's so in in general, and even one might say, not the first. he seduced her. yes, that is, in the same place, in fact, it turns out that she did not even understand wine. but now, when i read, i understand that the horror is not even in the fact that e humbert pasted the girl. and the horror is that he used her and put her in this prison, that is, he imposed a certain life on her, whose life she was not supposed to live, and uh. she was his slave, he did not let her out, and in general, he used her and even all these trips, all these frozen cinemas. there are new clothes. it was all some kind of entourage in order to keep this girl captive and use her, and now i understand that this is, well, this is the destroyed psyche of this girl. that is, he is just a monster that devoured the life of a young girl, and there is nothing beautiful, nothing sick in it. this is exclusively a tragedy of darkness, horror and some kind of

demonic nature. i don’t know, here, maybe in a person, yes, demonic, maybe it’s absolutely divine. well, here is the triumph of demonic nature. and now i perceive it. horror, so now you have a side your chess game is 1:11. he is already with me as the mother of a teenage girl, he cannot win against me. and you will understand this too, when kitty grows up, probably, yes, yes, that’s what he also told me about something that he was some kind of interesting, educated, handsome in appearance. i did not consider all this with him there you are, maybe because i'm a boy. that's why he describes, well, how all women fell in love with him adult women. yes, but you married a woman you hated. to get access to the child to the child you have done, well, an act.

well, i’ll say it so ugly, moreover, he wants to have children with lolita, so that later with his children and descendants. yes, wait for yourself a little lolita and use it like this. in addition, i made an important remark. he didn't ruin the tried. she then, i repeat , returned to the same place where he took her from, to her own world. lolita remains vital when she is found. eh, gunbertana him to himself in poverty, but a happy marriage and content with his life. that is, maybe, indeed, this question has destroyed or not destroyed the personality, but it seems to me that impossible not to destroy after so many years of uh bullying. unfortunately, as we know lolita cums. poor she dies childbirth, yes, yes. well, it's kind of a part of it on the chess game that not everyone who reads this novel

the first time understands that because it has a re-introduction on the first pages. we are told that both she and her daughter died in nature. but this is, as it were, this is the uh culmination of the uh tradition. pashin love yes, everyone must end badly. anna karenina is obliged to throw herself under the train. a. e. here too, as if everyone should end their life unsuccessfully, but still pay attention. and why doesn't he make this girl interesting deep. that's why nabokov , because for a man it doesn't matter if a woman is interesting or deep, how do you know, in fact, when humbert describes something? what is a nymphet? he says it's an elusive quality that not every girl has. there, 12 years suits him, and she doesn't even have to be cute or some yes long. it's something special. this is something so elusive that only a nymphet lover sees. this that moment of transformation, if

you really know how to catch it, this is the moment of transformation. well, it's probably like something like that, when a caterpillar turns into a grandmother. here there is some moment of transformation, when the caterpillar really begins. that's just the very beginning. that's about butterflies, too. well, i don't know if it will be interesting or not, and i discovered multiple butterflies, not a lot, but he believed that a butterfly is an example of beauty, and which is not needed for anything. as in the sense of beauty itself. for what butterflies are these patterns of art? actually. here, yes, for him this fundamental force for him was art, because he blew that it should exist by itself, not for what, but simply, as it were, for for itself. yes, well, this is a position and therefore, as it were, this is the answer to your question, please, did he sell his soul, but, as it were, with all that we said there about some vile ones. it’s interesting there, he didn’t know whether it would work or not work for him, as for a true

artist, the most important thing was, as it were, a work of art, and yet. i think, that lolita can be called a work, of course, of course, she turns the soul upside down for you. i didn't read it once. it seemed sugary to me and not that the translation although nabokov himself did the translation, but the translation into russian it is much weaker than e i can’t say in english, yes, that is, there is a lot of illusion of literature, there uh, in fact, the russian novel is much more sexually explicit than england and in general , very, very many nuances, not only that he did not know how to translate jeans there, but uh, this is not the same novel, although the translator, as it were, the author of the guys herself. thank you very much for the conversation. thank you for coming. this was a must-read podcast. anastasia was my guest, it became a literature years translator nabokov specialist in

nabokov a and andrey rubanov e, writing screenwriter. we discussed lolita on her side. roman pockets elena kiper yes, we have jazz musicians igor butman as our guests oleg neat, i wanted to beg igor to introduce oleg neat, as he does on stage when he introduces his musicians. this is a separate part of the usual concert, absolutely brilliant and better than butman - no one will do it. this is a unique, unique , talented, unique, educated, well-mannered and very pleasant person, oleg accurate, whom i first saw. well,

we saw each other where we saw each other. first time. i went to your club. it was 2000 the fifth year. i was 14 or 15 or 16 already, so he came to me. i didn’t even have time to understand anything, and then there was an international competition of the world, jazz in rostov-on-don, the dialect was one of the contestants. naturally, as soon as when he started playing, it was clear that this grand prix would immediately go to oleg akatorov. nikolai yanovsky and i, a wonderful pianist, an outstanding fattening composer, shed a man 's tear, because we are because when you see such talent, you just touches you. you know, when this athlete of ours was a snack won the olympic games, in my opinion in 2004. and when he overtook everyone, so to speak, all the people in the world. uh, at

that time the best, who is also such pride of this pride, you always have such tears of joy, as the famous hero said so it’s the same thing, we saw oleg and both of us have such a trace, then, of course, the musician who sings knows great music the history of music, jazz plays the classics, plays knows the people. she sings songs in all languages ​​of the world, so it’s impossible to imagine him differently than i imagine her. i'm just here to come to you to a living legend of jazz. you can get acquainted. this is me for those who want to come up. but there are such talents, collectors, in general, you can not even say hello. well, this is for catalent people appeal by and large, because we are a damn industry. here you have to be proactive and not be afraid that you will not be seen or understood. if you are talented, then you will notice. he is such a country that we have talents that notice you, basically you are doing something creative, so to speak

, activities, then you will go away peppers, what do you like? if you love, you want to convey this love to other people, by the way, suddenly i had such a question. i am often on the jury at children's competitions and children, when jazz start to sing, they teach him. yeah, it's clear that they teach him. they don’t feel it, maybe this feeling should come with age, in general, like a jazz school, that is, a child comes. he wants to win the competition, but not everywhere and not always, not in every genre. and here is the question for the new shift, which will come and synthesize it, because for them this technology is a technique. yes, what do you say that when it comes, a real feeling may not come, you see , this is where we mix, again two concepts people have talent, they have feelings, because when there is a competition, everyone wants to win the competition. therefore, if you have a competition,

let's say the piano. you must learn everything well. that's right and then you win, and you learned best of all, you interpret best of all. you win a jazz competition. children, mothers, fathers, teachers are afraid to lose, so they memorize in such a way that they are not this, just a jazz interpretation of any kind of musical structure. but they learn it all by heart, and i try with it to fight and even many talented girls who even saw with us. i say improvise. you don't need to study. she says i learned to improvise. you don't need much. you can sing better and this excitement of creativity will come to you at the moment of the very performance, you will understand. you know you play the piano. you know music. you are a talented person. oh no, she learns everything and gives it away. yes, that's it. and when you sing , we will already learn something completely different. it might as well be

well written. maybe done well. well, if you play it every day, it disappears. here is the charm of jazz music, for what we love? i when the first competition, when i was in rostov-on-don, i see that we have two compositions to play for the peasants, and they choose the first composition themselves. and then no, then there was generally one composition, and now they are playing. i watch him play. well, the man is playing. well, great. wow, and then i say, and you play there, well, some kind of standard. there he begins to play and kurlykuly learned. well, that is, jazz, this is a continuous creative should not only be jazz, music is creation. this is life all the time. it’s easy, when they really lead, there is such a tatyana chernigovskaya who says that children definitely need music, and she develops and expands this and at the same time here in a new education. i mean, there could be this part, when in the new, i mean in the new millennium, when they give children, and

the opportunity in basic education to start experiments. here it is definitely necessary to improvise - this is not some kind of something, it comes out of the hands, yes. this is how we talk. we have set the topic. we start talking to her, if we have enough to say so, well, i don’t know the knowledge there, according to the vocabulary. you know, sometimes i want to say, but i don’t have the strength. and how was it for you? as a child, everything is fine too. well, well, as a child no, well, as a child, my dad forced me to play jazz under duress. here i have such a question. in general, to force a child not from under the stick, but to create an opportunity for him to study. if there is any there was a story. tell me, i was a different story i have. i had to work with the classics, not jazz, because i just spent more time on jazz than on the classics at the beginning at the beginning of my period, and then i already realized, somewhere at the age of 18, that when i started preparing

for the competition in novosibirsk , i think i thought that i need the classics for sure, because not a single jazz musician can do without a classical education. that is, such an adult understanding has come, in general, i have already begun to relate to this in an adult way and everything and and. why is this the biggest thing? why i used to spend more time on jazz and only studied classical for 2 hours and only two hours of classical, please, otherwise i studied jazz in this, and i constantly studied jazz. well , that's just jazz all day for two hours of jazz. and now it's like yes, and now it's completely both. you said, dad, you said, but no, but no, i began to study. i just listened to jazz. i really wanted to play the drums, and so my dad had some drumming at home, but he played there at weddings there. well, during the day the engineer was playing at the wedding in the evening and the drum was at home. i used to play all the time, when i was five and six years old. i already played there with emil dmitrov, he was kind of like that. in general, what kind of records were there

leningrad selena, i played drums with them all, then they invited me a girl to write not to teach the piano, but she taught me the piano, we moved there half a year later. in the vesyoliy poselok in leningrad, the new district is such a sleeping place and she refused to come here, and he refused thank god, and then only later my father said for a while, jazz benny goodman charlie parker gennady goldstein joseph weinstein. these musicians were then a gremlin for the whole of leningrad. therefore, these are the ones my teacher, who i later got into, gennady says that he was all the time. legend soviet glory. god still lives legends of soviet jazz, an outstanding musician , arranger, composer at that moment , who played oleg, and vekovsky's people in the leaders and vadim, the einstein orchestra in general, you need to infect, you need to infect, you will get good music. gotta infect pride jazzmen must be a brilliant musician,

a good musician. it can be just a musician to be any musician of genius, in his own way 100 years of russian jazz, but october was celebrated. now let's celebrate a little more. e 2023. this is a good thing, but the next 100 years are ahead of what is missing in russian jazz, what to pay attention to for the first 10 years, at least with the support that we receive and all the creative industries in our country receive at the moment, we are working quite closely in the field of education. and it's not only we are, if the camps in samara pass , plus, of course, tavria passes. yes, that's it, it goes. there is a huge support, so we just need to work, and now we all believe that there can be success. people see successful jazz musicians on television, oleg neatov were sergey there, smut. peter the east. kondakov the guys in st. petersburg

are ours there to crush golovochekins and so on, and young people appear with us, in principle, we now have everything as a sponsor. there is support at the local level yes governor and ministry culture appeared the incentive is now seen that even the youth that goes they have a choice. where to go go classical pianist or go. i don't know about going to moscow state university to become an engineer. where are you, you can earn money. you can be a professional jazz musician. now the king can not help but ask the jazz musician. this is the state of man. well, of course, we are solid middle class solid middle class so, i don't know, for example, i consider myself a wealthy person. i don't know how at all in terms of finances. it means that we now talking about how to young people now young people are very much required, how to that yes. that is, if you are in demand, respectively, you, well, last year we

officially had 170 concerts with me. almost the same with lera, the musicians of my orchestra and my committee of ours almost the same. well, we didn't play for free. therefore, we have financial stability. i 'll tell you what the musicians. some earn very poorly. and this is not the limit. there are jazz musicians, ours. well , we also focus on musicians the greatest for us, the same wynton marsales , so to speak, is both a musical and human idol, as a public figure, he was one of the 25 most influential people in america according to. well, according to the tain magazine, well , it’s already great to play music, if we stayed, it can be one of the most influential people in america itself. why can’t a jazz musician in russia be influenced. and what if you outline your mission

as a jazz musician for the next century? i don't have any mission. i just love. i can't be you have a mission don't think not i sit and don't think. so make the girls nice. my mission is to make people happier, so that they would like to know , i say that if there are some things happening in the world, it means that we have not finalized somewhere, somewhere we have not finished playing something. something left people unsatisfied. i remember being alone. a wonderful jazz singer and pianist shirley horn sang in america , she performed at the festival there, and then i sat listening. she went out. we were already such an elderly woman who came out playing in white gloves, and she sang and the whole first row. we took everything for hands, just not well, there are people. it was as if we knew there was someone on the right, on the left we were sitting by the hands,

and now we were listening. here, this is some kind of divine musical revelation, well , it wasn’t bright at all, it’s just that she sang nothing, and this timbre of the voice is all together. and it was wonderful and we want to do it so that people leave, satisfied with a sullen smile , exchanging impressions. dear friends, dear friends on this optimistic note, by the way, opinion. unfortunately, we are forced to end our broadcast. today they were with us. igor butman people's artist jazzman oleg akuratov is a star of modern russian jazz without a doubt. i am sure that the best thing you can do now after this broadcast is to turn on oleg's recordings, listen to him and igor butman's orchestra. this is wonderful elena kiper, we say goodbye to new and night airs. we wish you happiness, everything in this big world is now for you. hey like the sun. that's

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