here is my label. it's exactly him. pharaoh so this is a terrorist. they rarely give up, sorry. how long does a dna test take from 12 hours to a day usually? i'll pass now there are.

urgent call on an emergency channel, well, everything has begun. no , what about him? if it's not you, it means i'm going to evacuate you, i'm announcing code 14. will i be

fine in 10 minutes? let's go fast, no questions asked . you have 5 minutes to pack your bag. mom is, god where are you talking? alex hits,

thank god you're all right. he said you are gone. who said. just pick up my son and transfer to the rest then son verni at any cost.

on the air, the big game in ukraine continues stubborn battles in kiev they say that they had certain advances, but for some reason they cannot explain where these advances took place, but they admit that in some areas the armed forces of ukraine are more advancing on in other areas , the russian armed forces are advancing more, but so far, apparently, strategic

changes, apparently, have not yet occurred. well , again, if we're talking about a virgin, another announcement from washington on the new military aid package for beloved kiev, we will talk more about this during the program. and finally, more positive news, and the opening of the summit of russia with african statesmen in st. petersburg is being prepared, and this, in general, is a rather significant event, and because africa matters and russia matters for africa, but i must honestly say that this was also a diplomatic examination. fight. to what extent will the collective west manage to dissuade african countries from going to st. petersburg. very much tried and achieved very little. and

finally, russian defense minister sergei shoigu is now in pyongyang on a very important visit . there have been no visits of this level to north korea by russia for a long time. and it's not just an isolated trip. we'll talk more about this again. this shows very important trends, new trends in russian foreign policy, with whom to deal, and with whom, if i may say so, to build partnerships. we don't have to start there because when there's a war after all, we should probably start with what is happening next to russia and not with what is happening across the ocean, but if it seems to someone that our programs are a little boring you, please, do not turn off, because in at the end we will discuss the american

election campaign, it will be fun and i guarantee that it will not be boring. and you already know. and that the biden administration is investigating trump is no longer news. although , frankly, trump's pleasure. it obviously doesn't deliver. now there is news. now republicans who control the house representatives, they are now starting an investigation into biden, not just his son, but hunter is no biden himself and not just starting an investigation, that is, the department of justice under control will investigate trump. what about house committees?

they will investigate the smuggler and his father, but honestly, i will say that it will not be boring. but still let's start with what is happening on the battlefields konstantin sivkov is a well-known military expert who i can say with confidence throughout the special operation. in general, very rarely wrong in his assessment. i don’t even remember when i was wrong, just in case , i’ll probably say somewhere sometime. why the hell, well, in general , your performance in this line is very high. something is happening, that's very significant, of course, every death is a tragedy, the battles are very stubborn, but something happens that would give you the impression that the strategic dynamics are changing, the strategic dynamics are changing. enough, very enough. seriously. well, it is noted, you can mark three points on the map , this is the zaporozhye direction of artyomovsk

direction and uh here. intense fighting continues, the enemy howls significant losses in the past day alone, according to official data from the ministry of defense and other sources, only 27 tanks per unit of lost combat vehicles 21 tanks. this is a very serious, very heavy losses, the second sign of the vases is that now fully equipped brigades, foreign military equipment, have already gone into action, and they also suffer very heavy losses, the effectiveness is negligible, they still cannot reach the main line defense. however, this is before her. dance apparently in order to achieve at least some result the second direction is artemov's, here, too, offensive operations are underway, the struggle is for klecheevka. it would seem small in fact, this is a serious

stronghold and understand everything. here you can in the area. they are hesitant to give, the integrity of the defense since the breakthrough. in this area , the second line of defense displays defense. therefore, to try to restore the situation here, to take at least a key stronghold for them important. this means that our troops are conducting offensive military operations in the northern direction, which means, uh, data are given that the daily advance of troops varies from one to two to three to five kilometers in depth along a front of 10-5 km, it turns out differently, given that there is into a fortified enemy, then

such rates of advance are quite acceptable. this suggests that the offensive is being carried out quite successfully, advancing at a pace of 20-30 km per day. this is after the break. uh, mean main bands rev tactical zone of defense and advancement, so to speak. uh in development, success. here we are talking about breaking through the defense and such. the pace is very high, so the direction to the breakthrough is clearly visible in this direction , here is the russian breakthrough with the prospect of movement. here to the south with the possibility from this direction, when the enemy is weakened to close the encirclement or go to kharkov one of the two directions , the enemy is trying to prevent this, conducting military operations with the goal of e, regaining control, over e, bakhmat or conquering the measure at key and strong points in order to prevent a strike from this direction. at the same time, he is trying to complete some

results in the zaporozhye direction in order to report to the western masters, and so far, to no avail, they are trying not to ban him anymore. there are no results here, but the battles are heavy , intense, force is thrown. there is a successful advance of russian troops at a decent pace of 3-5 km. a very decent pace of advancement per day when overcoming the tactical defense zone. well, this it looked like very tense tactical battles. if i understood you correctly, you said that, in general, it had already reached the level of some kind. explain here is clearly visible, the operational plan, which involves a breakthrough in one of the directions. here, uh, deterring the enemy of the main forces of pinning down the enemy. in this direction, the enemy understands that if he still has some earlier, then he has significant forces on this role, which can move to zaporizhzhia. here in this

direction. we see too, containment fights in order to create favorable conditions. we are advancing here in order to create favorable conditions for the encirclement of this grouping. there are many reports in the western press, and in general, they show that, to put it mildly, not everything works out for ukraine . for example, what an american publication writes or a warning. the russian ministry of defense estimates that ukraine lost some 26,000 men in its counter-offensive, which began in early june, and the massive loss of personnel is far from unprecedented. however, while western sources report not only that kiev sends barely trained conscripts to the front lines, but also that life expectancy, in some parts of the front, is only 4 hours. first of all, we are talking about hunting, which was widely mentioned in the press as a meat grinder for ukrainian units. and here is what the influential german newspaper build writes, a very

readable newspaper, not always a very serious, but very readable bond sphere in secret documents intended for official use criticized the actions of ukraine in during the counter-offensive, they specifically say that kiev zarya is dividing its parts too much between them; there is no common combat leadership between them. this not only increases the risks of fire on their own, well, it also solves the possibility of carrying out a man's strike with the main forces in the main direction. to establish fire superiority in an attack , sometimes groups of 10-30 people go in such conditions, not western training, not superior weapons, not an initial advantage in manpower, do not work, the more experience a ukrainian soldier has and the more left is in the hierarchy, the worse he learns western training, having no combat experience, the military learned the program better, returning to ukraine soldiers go under the control of commanders who do not act according to western standards, and the command staff at different levels has flaws in leadership. which leads to wrong and dangerous decisions as a result

of the counteroffensive, while going rather slowly before reacting to constantine for many months until the last moment. eh, they had a very he is victorious when they talked about the military advancement of the ukrainian army. therefore , such a pessimistic assessment is very new for them. i just want to make one important point. uh, initially it’s different to attack with large forces. as they say, the problem lies in the fact that for the offensive of large forces, these forces must be concentrated somewhere, since they must be advanced along several routes to the combat area and assembled at the end of the line. all these stages, they are picked up by a massed blow, because it is difficult to hide this matter, practically impossible and transition. here's to these small groups. it was a necessary measure now. attempts to act here in this direction, again, with large forces of two brigades

, it also ended in the most severe loss of military equipment. i have read very interesting reports in the western press about what is happening here in the northern direction, in my opinion, this is the kupyansk region, if i am not mistaken. and they report that there is convincing evidence that ukrainian reinforcements from the most well-trained units with new western weapons began to arrive there. question for you. if this is so, does this mean that ukraine has begun to send its strategic reserves to peklo in parts. yes it certainly is. so it is absolutely certain that it is taking emergency measures to ensure the containment of our troops in this direction and it is quite likely to prepare some kind of counterattack. here on this direction of the operational scale. it's strategic. yes, this is an operational

scale, but the main issues rest on one lord is on our side informational lords and when here in afghanistan the t-72, on the contrary, western tanks are burning and the result general reshetnikov will be the same. i want to add one more thing. here is build writes western preparation. uh, it turns out to be a good use, but we also understand what western training is 3 weeks, well, a maximum of four weeks. what can be the training of the untrained now sends there, but 3 weeks of training - it's just ridiculous. uh, and it's just propaganda like that. in my opinion. trick. so we prepared them, they, uh, use it badly. it’s impossible to prepare strelka in 3 weeks

, it’s just impossible, and those prisoners who are now being captured and say that all preparation is reduced mainly to a lecture of coaching on e. against russians for russophobia for anger for anger on the spot. this is the main part 2-3. the training ground this is the first moment to the situation, which has now been well consecrated at the front, and the second is the moment that every day , more and more, surrender is manifested and more than one or two people, again six , reach the platoon surrender why because, uh, a strategic reserve, of course there is, but rushes now mobilizes into the army, mostly deviationists deserters. disabled here such people. it's just real it's not propaganda. trick. this is real cannon fodder and what they throw into the area is kupyansky

and svatovo, strategic reserves. apparently, he says that there is already no one to leave, but now i agree with everything e that you said, uh, and konstantin said, but still i would like to warn you, as a person who is cautious in all age. so, i want to warn that these ukrainian strategic reserves have not yet been abandoned and therefore, experiencing legitimate satisfaction with the results of the russian armed forces. on at this stage better results than expected? whoever you are in the west, better results than the ukrainian command expected, and according to my conversations. the military in moscow, in general, better results than many expected in moscow military circles, but nevertheless, but nevertheless

, very serious things are still ahead, and we must be ready for them. not only militarily does this, the supreme commander -in-chief general staff, but also psychologically required, but if you want, an understanding of russian civil society. in the meantime fast forward to beijing where they took and replaced the minister of foreign affairs. and as i understand it, they didn’t even advise hearington, what’s going on? yes? this, of course, is outrageously outrageous and the biggest sensation. i think to add that you knew the minister well. he was e deputy minister when you were ambassador, e in beijing and that, in general, the ministers were considered quite capable and competent person, but there is no doubt about that. after all, all chinese diplomats, before uh, they uh, come to leadership positions, go through a big professional path and the same blue

she is certainly a very qualified person. uh, i really, like all the heads of the diplomatic mission working in beijing, knew him well, because he and the sites in the ministry of foreign affairs were such you know very uh, as they say, having a contact. he was in charge of political information, he was responsible for uh, coverage of chinese foreign policy, he uh, in the future , as deputy minister, oversaw the protocol, and protocol in china. one he belongs to the ministry of foreign affairs, but works and on the state leadership and the government, but also of course on e, on the ministry of foreign affairs. e to er, appointments as ambassador, united states of america where he tried to stay for a short time. oh, he worked. uh, several business trips to the uk, by the way, i studied. there, he is perfectly fluent in english and generally a very skilled person. but now we are translating all this

into the past tense was. e, they changed it, but not that it was not expected after the new values ​​​​it was not mentioned. so there it is there is no talk at all. uh, there, uh, he remained a member of the central committee because it is a separate procedure for members of the communist party of china. he remained a member of the state council. this is the actual level of the vice-premier, he was dismissed from the post of minister, apparently, unexpectedly, this is evidenced by the fact that he has not been in time for this position yet in 7 months. to cool off the chair returned to ivan , who for many years served as minister, and worked closely, of course, and whom i did. come on, he worked very closely and for many years with sergei viktorovich lavrov and very fruitfully. eh, here he is on the screen, he went for promotion and, first of all, along the party line. uh, and now it seems to be that he is, from

the position of the party coordinator of all foreign policy of all foreign political activity. china returned to the chair of the minister. that is, now he, as it were, along the party line, is supervised by himself. well, it's like that. a feature is a feature of the chinese personnel system, well, after all , the main thing is when you are in moscow. what does this mean for russia, do you know? strictly speaking, this means nothing. e, if you take really and weigh serious things in the minister's chair. he's back, uh, statesman. knowing our country well on many occasions, he met not only with the minister of foreign affairs, but was also received by the president of our country. so in that regard, i don't see any change at all. and the fact that he was returned to the chair suggests that it was simply really such an unexpected combination in china

, by the way, saying there are no traditions and appointments to the highest posts of the ministry of foreign affairs, well, except for the special position of secretary, portfolio ministry of e-party workers, or someone from other areas than foreign policy. i know everyone. well, it just so happened. it `s naturally. current substitutes. or the minister of foreign affairs, that's all. these are extremely worthy and prepared people, but here, as they say, from people with some kind of strong anti-russian orientation. in principle, it cannot be. well, let's start with the fact that everything there, first of all, about the chinese, everything correctly and consistently serves china's national interest, and therefore they occupy high positions, but it's just that everyone can see it quite clearly and obvious and becomes more and more obvious. e that the interests of the national state interests of china lie in the mainstream of close coordination with our country in the foreign policy sphere. we are not allies. we are

two big countries. we may have different approaches to some particular issues of modern world politics, but in general , as far as the mainstream is concerned, as they say. our positions are either close or coincide objectively, based on national interests. let's bring it to penyan now. where the minister of defense of russia recently arrived sergei shov? hello very well received him met. uh, defense minister literally losing north korea, uh, that's it. that was enough. uh, the smiles were very, very warm. and that's what e sergei steps said. thanks for meeting and getting to know you , i took advantage of your invitation to visit pyongyang, the capital of our friendly states , i am grateful to our korean friends for the proposed rich program, i felt your care and attention from the first minutes. it is possible not

only to work actively, but to know a lot of interesting things about korean folk democratic republic of your culture , traditions and sights, the democratic people's republic of korea is an important partner of russia, which binds us with common borders and a rich history of cooperation. and the american edition of the politician noticed that a high-ranking chinese delegation arrived in pyongyang at the same time , draws attention to the fact that, in general, they came to the same event. uh anniversary of liberation. let's listen to what he wrote. this week russia will send china a high-level delegation to north korea that is preparing to celebrate the seventieth

anniversary of the end of the korean war. this is an indication of a rare burst of diplomatic activity from an isolated country. leading the delegation in pyongyang, li hongzhong, deputy head of the standing committee of the all china people's congress, is believed to be the first visit by a delegation from china at the highest level since the start of the coronavirus pandemic, according to an official statement. beijing li wu hongzhong will take part in ceremonies marking the seventieth anniversary of the armistice agreement that ended the korean war, and his visit will take place at the invitation of north korea by a russian delegation led by the minister of defense. sergei shoigu will also visit north korea on july 25-27 , the russian defense ministry said this visit will help strengthen russian north korean military ties and become an important stage in the development of cooperation. between the two countries, they noted in the russian ministry of defense, well, formally. this date is called, uh, the end of the war. e. the liberation of north korea from american attempts by south korea

to subjugate north korea was interesting and is still 70 years old. this so-called truce, it held, and in general allowed to keep the peninsula peacefully, but did not lead. any kind of collaboration. well, earlier it seemed to me, uh, senator, that uh, russia, especially in the nineties. in general, they tried to slightly avoid north korea, er, the democratic people's republic of korea. but just like in the united states they said, north korea and even, in general , some resolutions were not adopted in the security council. he also did not veto china. generally. there was a joint position, a cautious position regarding those sanctions, but not a direct

blocking of them, apparently, now in moscow there is a slightly different approach to pyongyang, i'm not mistaken. well, uh, this approach is, uh, really different if you compare it with the nineties, but it uh emerged and uh manifested itself. in general, not now, but already quite a long time ago. just something in the nineties. e happened. it was an inflection and not only with the democratic people's republic of korea was in trouble. uh, transitional uh, nature and in our relations, for example, with cuba, i will not delve into the topic of everyone and we know well the features of that era, but as the chairman spoke. you can’t go too far, you can’t straighten the nineties, we really went too far, as for the present time , this anniversary is really very important for the democratic people’s republic of korea , they really call it both victory day and liberation day and celebrate it as a national holiday and two high

delegations who visited e, korea to participate in the celebrations. these are exactly those who were supposed to go there, because , first of all, the people's republic of china and the corps of the so-called chinese people's volunteers played, let's face it, a decisive role in the korean war. well, our pilots are volunteers, who fought in the skies of korea, providing air cover. e operations from the north are also. in general, uh, those, uh heroes thanks to whom the war ended the way it ended, i would noted the following, and pay attention to one word that our minister of defense uttered at the beginning of his conversation with his north korean colleague. he said, i'm glad to meet you, uh, sergey kushugetovich has been serving as minister of defense for quite

a long time now, his north korean counterpart is also not a newcomer. in this area, this is a very well-deserved veteran general. and yet. you see, just now an acquaintance took place. but yes indeed were 3 years. uh, almost 3 years of covid. uh, quarantine when north korea as they say, probably the democratic republic was simply sealed. there, in general, the ant could not penetrate the territory of this country through those cordons that were erected along its borders, so in the dprk they were fleeing from covid. as for the chinese delegation. eh? dashing is uh, as said vice chairman of the standing committee of the people's congress, that is, deputy head of the chinese parliament but not a simple deputy deputy head of the standing committee in china many about 20, but only one of them is a member of the politburo. like a pc here. eh,

comrade, is he just a member of the politb. that is , this is also a very high level for this kind. contacts, and finally. uh, the most important thing is that the covid restrictions were officially lifted following uh, china uh. in the north in north korea in the korean energy-democratic republic, but there were no political contacts until recently? this is the first e, and this already sets one in such an optimistic mood, because it is necessary to return to the previous practice. we need to restore normal cooperation. of course, uh, taking into account all the existing, as they say, regimes that russia joined as a member of the security council, but, nevertheless, uh. we need to cooperate and we will certainly do it. i agree with you, senator, that uh,

if you want a more positive approach to the democratic people's republic of korea , that this is not a new phenomenon and that it is a process that has evolved gradually, but i think you are right too. and highlighting the visit, the russian defense minister as an indicator that this is cooperation, that this is recognition? uh pyongyang and i'll be honest. willingness to ignore american objections. it seems to me that it has reached some new level and the general of medical practitioners. i want to ask you, but in another country, and with which russia, it seems to me, a similar process is also taking place. i mean, eran, where many years too. uh, russia did not support very tough american sanctions, rather than

support the policy of isolating tehran, but in general they were very cautious. we are establishing any cooperation with this country. it seems to me that in case early it the cautious approach is slowly becoming a thing of the past. what do you think, of course, the whole situation is all that is happening, it requires both iran and us to develop cooperation to deepen. although i must say a little back in korea, we must not forget that one of the first visits of our president. putin and abroad was in the democratic people's republic of korea and there was a significant warming of relations. after that, the head of the dprk came to russia, this is all , in my opinion, the tenth to the middle of the tenth years. eh, everything went eh, quite smoothly not even exactly ascending, as far as iran is concerned, of course, we uh maintained relations. here i was, at one time heading

the department for cooperation with foreign intelligence services of the foreign intelligence service. i have been there in iran many times, i was the general of the service externally and the head of this department, yes, which task was contacts with foreign intelligence services. we had good relations with the iranian special services , they were business related to the fight against terrorism. e hot spot situation e. conflicts and situations with american pressure on iran that we could somehow help them, but of course, we didn’t go for such wide cooperation in military affairs, and in political affairs, based on the situation. eh, both in our country and in the international arena. now without iran, uh, solve many problems in the region. uh, uh, the indian sea to pakistan, but very, uh,

difficult. we have common interests and interests to ensure that, uh, the caucasus is not under the control of one country, i mean a nato country. meaning turkey yes, we are not interested. e in full subordination of the transcaucasian countries. eh, this policy. uh, therefore, we are not interested in iran here either . iran is not interested in strengthening. and the position of the united states of america e in the caucasus. uh, that's why we have enough relations now , uh, active and in the economic sense have become more active, except for bushehr. we will be building a nuclear power plant. now there is good cooperation in other areas in the economic sphere, so iran is becoming our partner. uh, an active partner not an ally, as our dear senator said

about uh, china well, uh, active necessary an effective partner in a number of areas, and earlier became a full member, and the hahal organization of the shanghai organization, yes. so i think that brix is ​​also mmm on the horizon close enough. uh, for iran, iran wants to be part of these structures. there is, of course, the situation. it’s also not so unambiguous and hmm the west is actively working there and finding people who are ready for such, uh, experimental- well, extreme actions active actions, but in general, uh, the country’s leadership controls the situation and i emphasize again iran is now becoming an important partner for us or in the international arena in economic relations, and i think that this will continue to develop. thanks, let's go to

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, they are increasingly saying that what originally began as a special operation is increasingly acquiring the features of the patriotic war. and just now, captain sivkov, captain of the first rank sivkov, to accurately draw attention on the tank to the coloring there in general, which go around ukraine . and i want to come back to you, uh, general reshetnikov, and talk. uh, the russian minister of defense and the minister of foreign affairs in poland, they travel, and

relations are of a completely different kind, and poland , in my opinion, turned out quite recently very serious announcements from the president. putin, we discussed this topic in previous programs one central question. do you have an impression? that the behavior of poland is the readiness of poland to completely ignore the interests and warnings of russia that it has reached the level when moscow begins to think that it is time to demonstrate to warsaw that they, too , cannot count on invulnerability if they actually make themselves a participant in a conflict, a participant in a military conflict, then in general something, it is naive to think that because nato

adopted its charter, and russia, which does not seem to be a member of nato, but will obey this charter and will not punish poland if it is considered that there is no other way out in order to defend the sovereignty and integrity of russia, of course, poland has long been. at the very beginning of a special military operation. uh is actively involved in the war against russia, and not only by supplying weapons to significant units of the so -called mercenaries, it means happiness for these units is a dismissed from the army. uh poland, uh, the military personnel who declared them to be the type of volunteer mercenaries. they are actively involved in this, and poland, uh, has already entered into

such specific negotiations with zelensky and kiev, ah. even the concept of the federation of the confederation e, poland e, ukraine e is being developed. hmm, you still have to take into account that the poles, uh, poland as such is a state with nationalist ideologies in our country, uh, ours among our neighbors, uh, and in the west and in the east there are few such countries where nationalism is elevated to the rank of rank, ideologies and politics. well, probably in the east it is poland hungary. so, but uh, if hungary is nationalism inside itself, it is directed inward mainly, then in poland, of course, outside and outside - this is in relation to russia, belarus in relation to ukraine and with us we are so educated,

especially the older generation what do we think what is it? well, not very serious, well, just think, there is nationalism. the main thing solves economic problems, others are not for certain, uh, nations and states - this is a very strong uh feeling, yes, which can lead to the complete collapse of the same poland as she has already cited, and more than once they are on this e their e, nationalism with pride. they lost poland for several centuries. uh, lost a few times. now even the situation they used the support of the united states of america before. they considered that in this sense they were invincible, that no one would do anything to them. russia can swallow everything because we are nato, because we have american bases, because we have american troops. and this one, this one, is

the support that maybe the united states is now reducing. tempo maybe so them supports and the combination with this national ideology, that, uh, poland is already practically from them. i wouldn’t even say, they copy uh, ukrainians kiev copy uh in many ways, and it was said just now, ermah, there are all sorts of fascist secession things there, but behaviorally in spirit. uh, ukraine under the nose over the use. poland is above everything. they copy poland in many ways. yes, they line up in this especially tough one. the nationalist line and poland of course , with such a policy, it poses a real threat to the security of belarus as part of our union state to come claims, just for e part of e belarusian lands e western ukraine and hmm, you said it right.

eh, already from the position of the president of russia, they hinted to them and hinted how the new poland was created by efforts. e of the soviet union, even more precisely by efforts. e of the then leader stalin and i. what can follow if, uh, they don’t stop, and the fact that the e wagner group appeared there and their participation in the preparation, the belarusian army and so on. and that our contingent has been there for a long time worth everything. many said you don’t understand that he was not in order to move to kiev , he was in order to secure. from possible e polish active actions, therefore poland e, if she continues like this, she can get a whole series of troubles. i have an interesting personal experience with, uh, the behavior of poland

in 1993. i accompanied e, the former president. uh, nixon varhal. and we were first in moscow and from there we went to poland and , uh, nixon went to negotiate with valencia, who was then president. and i was on the first five minutes, when they tore their hands and said some ceremonial words, and then nixon's valencia remained together. and when he came out like onyx, he began to tell me about their conversation, he really liked the disability , but he was struck by the story of e valencia about how he uh organized yeltsin's speech on top of poland's right to join nato and uh he said that here i am put down a bottle of wine. we sat down

for a drink. i told him listen, we are such friends now. well, what will interfere with you, if russia joins nato, well, yeltsin says it's me retelling. not what did yeltsin say to me that nixon yeltsin said in nixon's retelling? i said, well, really kiwi. we have problems, we are friends. and then valencia says, well, now we will go out, there are press correspondents. repeat it, please, and with this you took it and repeated it. but i am telling this for a different reason, because this story is well known. although other accounts of this story said that there were not bottles, there was more than one bottle of wine, probably quite possibly. here's what was interesting. uh, the same in the evening, and gave walesa. uh, dinner. and in private? and uh, i was sitting on the other side of the walence,

so that it was on their side. uh, very kind. and uh, he didn't say fat, he explained it to me all the time. what an insignificant russia there was absolutely no even a hint of gratitude to yeltsin of russia. there was great satisfaction that finally this empire can be disregarded, that here we will show them more and more and the main thing that he tried to explain to me what to do when i arrive. uh, washington, i gotta tell everyone that more ready, poland is ready to fight with russia and that made a big difference for me. yes, i want to tell you a disturbing impression, because it would seem that he should have said. yes, this is

a different russia. yes, this is a different president of russia and with these people. we can now, but if not to be friends, then it is normal to cooperate. they made exactly the opposite conclusions, what do you think about this? well, here, of course, there are certain historical phobias of national complexes. uh, poland uh, even in the chinese question, which is close to me, uh, in russia’s relations with china until the twenties of the xx century. uh, there was a polish element, suffice it to say that the translator at the signing of the first treaty in the history of russia to china, the so-called nerchinsk treaty. this is the very end of the 1600s of the 17th century, the main translator from our side was a polish nobleman.