the flower grower and that i paint, it is clear that i did not write. i should have a million dollars in my subscriber account there. well, let me, but now i just don’t remember any indicators, yes, half a million dollars. well, okay, adequate in this regard. we wrote performance indicators for ourselves, no one there sent them to you. there is an evil person so adequate nastya and you did not fulfill them. i'm just what i am. although, when i say that i don’t observe any relative at all, i now also understand that i don’t right, because i've grown a lot in terms of fortitude experience a, that is, this year, of course i've learned a lot from him it's nothing. no, i understand that this is a lot, and now it is important for you to get used to this thought. how do we get used to something? this, of course, is the main thing for us, to repeat the truth. this is a podcast of the psyche. my

name is natalya loseva, and together with clinical psychologist mikhail khors, we are still analyzing the problem of panic attacks. nastya knows four languages, and it’s quite difficult. what does this say? well, except that she achieved, at least this is already yes. come on, let's go out now on the streets of moscow and ask who knows at least one foreign one says that nastya learned four foreign languages ​​\u200b\u200bthat she knows how to achieve goals, that she is hardworking and hardworking. we know that languages ​​are taken, including, so to speak, by our muscles , that nastya knew how to achieve goals and that she was capable of work, but, in addition to skill, more resources are required, you know, and this is how to buy yourself a beautiful one there. uh, this scary car, huh? and gasoline is a resource,

which motor is required? yes, therefore, it is the lack of gasoline, continuing your metaphor , gives this interruption in the engine, therefore, in fact. well, uh, this is the crisis. a crisis - this is what it's always not what you wanted, yes, you didn't get something, that's not what you want - this is the norm. and the assessment of what, uh, when it doesn't match? this badly creates a crisis. and this is the crisis. uh, there are some long-term chronic experiences. let's take a picture now. what is better in this situation. if nastya is with someone or someone for she writes an action plan in no case if she changes the relationship in no case no action plans. no, you don't need everything. but i allow you to live for free at all, please, i live now now i live now just with my grandmother with my relatives yes , my relatives are very loved, they are very much and accordingly, they live with them, really. cool. these are completely different brain functions.

we have completely different relationships. absolutely do not understand. well, the first thing my grandmother said to me when i arrived was, like, i thought you you haven't changed, like, you're the same. like this, like this, that is, there is some set of claims against you from the older generation, and the older generation also does not like you. nastya a hmm, first of all, that i did not go to my diploma. by profession, yes, although, in principle, yes. although, in principle, my university is not only a diploma. it is also a social circle. it is also skills that are languages. and i use all this that i received at the university, but i don’t work there, i didn’t marry diplomats, and so on, and yes, here are some such. that is, if i say that i feel bad for my grandparents or, in principle, the family, then they will most likely tell me, yes, that you are fine, right? like natalya at the beginning, i didn’t say it, but you quoted everything that

was said there. yes, i'm always guilty in this place. uh. well, tell me, grandma, he said, you haven't changed at all. she was right. i have changed a lot, so i was hurt to hear it. so, grandmother, let's go on the points, granny, i generally think that it is not necessary to deal with older people in this. well let's you already mr. psychologist and decide who you are talking about, please say, what worries you, then you say, no, grandmother said something. well, god be with her, grandma. i myself people. why is it a shame, because my closest people should always understand me in everything and support me. and no, at least sometimes just say that they are proud of me. they have never heard of it. yes, not at all. they let you live. this is support. yes, and you say they don’t support me at all, as they can. and here's what you are proud of one very cool young

woman. can tell you and very close to you. i would even say the closest of all. who do you know. about myself, i know what i want to say to mikhail that we should not release it either. that's what they mean. the fact is that a whole generation, especially after the military generation, due to the cultural context that was created, and that tradition, well, it was clear, yes, after the war, and so on was not accepted. they weren't trained to praise their children, you see, yes through parenting books, but there wasn't. this. that is, it was possible to purchase what you fed, but you did work at three jobs. yes in the course of school, the main dress is the best dress, not worn, cut into a new year's costume. yes, this was i manifest, but to come up and say it was an action by them manifesting their sensitivity that there is also not enough there, but they were not received. don't

expect this from them. yes. here, maybe someday, when you are calmer, you are. well, again, in a position that you are not bad bad, that you don’t tell me this. and i would love to hear that. can i asking for a brag to say, granny, i got pancakes. how are you, huh? and when you say yes say, listen hangover away. here a means, uh. and the main thing is that the grandmother, of course, now does not understand all the connections between your panic attacks. here is your physiological state, in fact , there is no picture of the world, in principle, no, this is the son. i have. yes, i have an exemplary beautiful life. but what they wrote down on a pencil, they took the authorities, you just need to thank for the fact that there is around it is

difficult. it's hard to learn this people for years and be grateful for what she has for decades. well, let's take a closer look. what do you have. well, just like, well, for example, thank god with him, as it turns out. just don't criticize yourself for not being able to thank you, as you were written in books. here's how it works. and if it doesn’t work at all, then it’s possible too. it doesn't matter, you know, you're bad if you don't know how to be grateful, moreover , you just don't know how like it doesn't help, and i shouldn't help. well, what about the connection with yourself. and you don't know which one you understand. do you think that you are the same as you were before? no, horror no, let's scold. and that's what tell us what oh so i'm very kind. i am sensitive to voice and

intonation. that is, vulnerable vulnerable e, but at the same time, but very easy-going. sometimes, maybe even too strong, in principle, i have the strength to cope. but yes, i'm frozen. so you say that you are drowning, but you see the shore, at least where you need to lead. no no. i see, that there is light, and there the bottom, i'm like getting closer closer to the bottom, what needs to be done by nastya so that she sees this shore of hers, because she really has everything and strength. she has. and that same increasingly she forces there is no rights. a? well, first of all, the description. yes, in one word, what they told us, they could still tell in one word nastya different things, like all of us on some day, kind, very specifically, cold, to some extent

, receptive, to some extent, strong, to some extent vulnerable to some extent , approximately 8 billion of the world's population is suitable something like this, of course. therefore, uh, but it will help you to know yourself deeper. so is your life. you will know all your life. you will change and know yourself again and try to know yourself. right now, immediately and to the end, for all, completely and for life, this is an infantile attempt. well, and an adult ass - this is a process. i will learn about myself to the extent that i manage to learn about myself and other people. here is your first problem is that you are trying to know exactly what you are and even think that you know what you are and any step away from this for you? well, there is a story about how the special services are preparing. cheats

bind them hand and foot. and drop the bass. they start behaving differently. here is someone twitching, twitching, trying. to swim as hard as you can to breathe, that's what you're doing right now. and you expect them, and they have a task yes, which means to swim from one end of the pool to the other. you know who wins, who drowns, repels from one and emerges, then sinks again, then repels again and emerges and moves. here so up and down, yes, and this man is the fastest. and what kind of person is a person who allows himself to drown? and you - no, you must stay on the surface. it's just that you're not scared because you're drowning, but because you think it's a nightmare and shouldn't be. and drowning is okay. life

is a wave. and when the wave went down and this is the norm, just this is the crisis. yes, we sometimes get caught. if we resolve the crisis for ourselves, we calmly sink, push off and go up a. if we start to twitch, here's my waters choke and lose consciousness and panic attacks. we will start. i understood everything. it's just that in your mind the bottom is a fiasco, it's a disaster. well, that's all, it's not like that, because such a bottom, when you are in the water, a support point from which you can push, you understand to push off from the water, well, it's almost impossible, apparently, this panic attack is your physiological reaction. this is a manifestation of desperation. because you understand that you are stuck and not axes. and where the support you are afraid to go. true, no, i'm scared, but scared, but the body tells you, wait a minute

nastya wait there, it's clear your head to say no no. no, now it will be even worse there, there is an end, but there is not an end. it started there, nastya and your relationship with your dad , they didn’t die with him, your relationship began there, because you know the answer to the question of who your dad is and he’s good, he’s cool from represents many girls on earth. you know who yours is and you realized that he is good, and he loved you, you understand? you are just at this moment, of course, physical death, but we know that there is no death to you reveals a secret, that dad exists, dad is alive, dad is exactly the way you would like to represent him and the person who loved you, of course, loves the bottom - this is not the end. this is not death either. but this is the beginning of a new life, new stages, treat yourself as a project.

you are a cool creative project, of course, a creative project, admiring your development, and then maybe these panic attacks, when they all fail logically, but the situation is more complicated natalya because if we already have we see a year, yes, periodically panic attacks periodicity, increasing here, so, first of all, of course. our phrase, which the editors subtracted from us. so i emphasized it, obviously sedatives will not work for me. it's the crown again. i decided i'm a person on earth who means everything needs to be solved without pills. well, as if i can, if you can do it. and if you can't, seek help with pills. it's not cool, and it's not cool to go to the doctor. no, she must. yes, grandfather is there. here he is sitting, grandfather. i even yes, this is a military grandmother of teachers. this is what i see, man cool to go to a doctor who will correctly assess your condition and cool. it will help you, to

everything that we have told, it will also help, well, at the level of a phrase, you can ask for help, only a strong person can ask for help himself. this is a sign that you have acknowledged your weakness. we acknowledge weakness. yes, only having inner strength and as for the attacks themselves, here in therapy, and panic attacks in the therapy of phobias also have such a concept, fear fear, this is when a person who has already experienced it has gone through it yes, he is afraid that this flash will be again and this fear is a flash. he is like that. yes, it means we are working on accepting the fact that you have this, maybe , but what is the most terrible phrase you have here, that i’m lying and i can’t get it up explain why this is the most terrible and terrible, because action is needed. no no, it's not the worst

terrible thing. it offhand something even more terrible is already terrible. no, well, it’s clear that you can then you don’t have to lie to yourself, as if you can be just stupid. you are just different again. yes i'm here wrote down. yes, i, to some extent, like mikhail anatolyevich tail, like natalya, we are all to some extent stupid, you know, and to some extent sensible. well, friends, you see how our conversation with such a beautiful heroine , who came to us with the problem of panic attacks, does not end, but in fact we revealed such interesting depths of her life in the best sense, and it seems to me that nastya had an idea how to rake? true, you need to heat nothing, do not rake out. lie rest this was a podcast of the psyche, where i am a journalist natalya loseva, a clinical psychologist, a candidate of psychological sciences, mikhail khors, helped our heroine anastasia

deal with those stressful conditions that are called panic attacks. i hope that we, but a little bit coped with this situation, at least a gleam in the eyes. nasty gives us hope. hello dear friends. this is an anthropology podcast on pervy, hosted by dmitry dnevrov, 30 years old. i've been waiting for this evening for 30 years. i dreamed that evgenia smolyaninova would someday be hmm we have studios and all. it wasn't happening. and today, for the first time, the lord commanded that this would happen evgenia smolyaninova. the first voice of russia you

say skidded from you. and now what shall we say about the magnificent ensemble of the mariinsky theater singing. for example, the bolshoi theater drags its own. here i am with malinin and you will also have it, because this voice is the tenth or some kind of a number, the miracle of the world and everyone who hears evgeny valeryevna turns into a pillar of salt. now you become it too. ding-ding sound a lot to me you say to the moons

the radiance of oranya in the spring with you , your voice is a bell. ah, how's the sound, eh love? you can't ding-ding

ding-ding calls worth silvering in the moon along the road rushes money ding-ding, a lot of bells. they gave me. well, amazing, now dear

friends. we just realized that we are in an incredible metaphysical dimension evgenia valerievna was born in the city where dostoevsky got married in what city did dostoevsky get married program? who wants to become a millionaire channel one is novokuznetsk and then kuznetsk the magnificent old maternity hospital number one, which, uh, are nearby, but with the novokuznetsk drama theater. well, you moved, then with your parents to kemerovo, but stuffy. you were there your voice was there, nothing to do with it. yes, not the one required no, quite the opposite. i had a spacious shower of chemical plants there. let's compare, that is

, not at all comparable, even among professionals , i'm not sure that i understand this very well. i never needed it , but i didn't need to know that my voice was not repeatable. well, this is perfectionism in everything, i want to reach the very essence. well, he manifested himself in another, he manifested itself, but in the way i wrote music , in the way i was doing creative work in general. i wrote music. i really liked music in general. i generally think that i will be the composer he showed up. i played the piano manifested itself in the way i play the piano. here in this, you fill the russian romance. that is, with the passion of the love that he should be filled with? where did you get it from? but artistry, i think, is a natural talent, so to speak already. but actually, here i owe him everything have to thank. e viktor ambrosevich. titov, our director.

and for the first time i sang a romance for the film gena's life as a climas, and actually he insisted that i sing romances , because then i drank only folk songs , folklore, i was sure, and i argued all the time and well, not so much, of course, uh, but i say all the time, come on, i better sleep on your own song for this film. i do it better, and he asked for a romance. i didn't know how it would sound. hmm, moreover , my school ones are some kind of musical experiments when i drank romance, uh, the teacher told me, never in my life is a romance caught. yes, but i did not listen to her fortunately. i scored romances. and when i managed the first time, which i recorded, i still don’t remember what it was like when i heard it. e, i liked it so much and in fact, tuff e he is this paradigm a i determined for me thanks to this opportunity, and i learned to sing romances. as a matter of fact, here for one record. i learned to sing romances, because romance does not live everywhere. so let's not

depart far from what it is i ask you at your discretion evgeniev. listen, it's not for us to dictate here that your soul was full of obscure things for the most such looked at me. moon

watching? a distant squirrel in the air, like a delicate string of the pink beauty, she declared millet. the little swallow, striving somewhere into the distance transparent near a-a-a home.

i thought you can over my thought and now we have touched my sweet ah

well, everything is at school, no, deceit and devil love and fears are flowers. look and even how it is present in your orchestration, but you need to but this voice of yours, which here is the leading voice, tells us that this woman has changed him; now she is going with repentance or without repentance to her husband who shot. well, i have a different story. and what you have is not even a plot. for some reason, this is an image of this romance of devotions and maringoff in mine, you know , some kind of female hopelessness, this woman is carrying discord in her soul. this is a tragedy. this is the absence of paths, in the end, and the departure of some other reality. she wants sickly. i'm here is strange, imagine, i'm

here i'm crying. i'm going through this and i'm crying this is normal. i generally think it is. eh, this is exactly what i consider my strength not only in the voice, but precisely in the ability to survive, but his russian romance, as a genre , allows you to go through these experiences. and who showed you something? this opened the secret of russian song and russian romance. well, i 'll tell you viktor titov and we were recording going to the fair. there was a tragic song. it would seem that. yes, well, in art, it doesn’t happen that if you have an ear, everyone has fun. eh, that didn't work for me either. she always had to dynamic. eh, hmm, it somehow intensifies and reaches some kind of catharsis with this song, the tragedy should have been there, well, i didn’t succeed, not my folk aesthetic. songs did not allow to come out to such an openness and these tuff yes, he has. well, actually, what can

you not say there does or does. it's better to draw a picture. well, pictures are better for me, and he said in such a voice, you know, when they buried his dinarusana. chopin did not sound mozart did not sound vladimir vysotsky sounded a little slower than the horses and when he said that, i understood everything how to sing. we want to listen and enjoy. well, then i'll sing not a romance, and then a romance is good.

i’m on the shore, like white hands i can’t go all the way across the bridge, but it’s better in the name of wet sounds. in memory, i took the last parting

sounds and my white hands in the water. and i was not in front of him. i would say who she is, let's sing to us the meadow, call on the other side, like a mermaid on a hole and not sleep on your finger. throw throws. ring

well bravo dear friends, this is not comparable evgenia smolyaninova in the anthropology podcast on channel one. and how did you pass all these awards, the conservatory departments did not pass one, what a well-deserved artist, after all, yes, well-deserved in the eleventh year. i got this title, and i did not aspire to this, and this is probably not valor. i don't think it's worth striving at all. but it seems to me that there is no modesty in this, as such, but it seems to me that this is a wrong principle, when you sit, wait and they will bring you everything and everything will do nothing for you such a person. it seems to me that he should adequately, but treat his talent. i

don't. i speak from my own bad experience. and what not wanting i believe that a person who feels his talent feels his skill feels that he can do it somehow must position himself in this way. well, i'm being modest all the time. eh, that's indiscreet. you know this, this is some kind of unconsciousness, or what? here's what i've never missed. and i guess it's somewhere. it's like, as if compensated and balanced. and these are people mi, who came to concerts, who listen to me, who love me, who you know, so when you tell this, it seems that such a one is sitting and boasting. they love me, you know, i'm not exactly bragging. i scream about it, that people love what i do. and this makes me very happy. i'm in that sense, uh, a human singer. well , actually the singer should be for people. and for whom else do i know in a sense. e. e, you can say, a child, he is of his people.

no, of course, of course, so it's even in general, er. well, this is arranged from above, what is it it is my voice, but it could be. whatever, it just happened to me. i am very glad. i always uh, here. eh, i thought about it and tried to sing. and by the way, if here, uh, maybe someone will listen, who remembers vladimir vladimirovich vinogradov if you knew him, this great sound engineer of ours, with whom i recorded all my records. and when he left. i said i won't make any more records. i don’t want to write with him with this amazing person. do you know a story about him? well, i just really loved very much. we all loved him, and one story comes out finished the disc to alexander vertinsky classic roses. i also have such a program for the vertinsky battle. uh, here we are leaving the gdrz, uh, it is such a summer day. eh, and suddenly he goes and says, zhenechka, you know, here, and he is huge. such a straight keith, so big, goes and says. you know, anyway. i'm not an artist. i am alone.

what are you, we just finished this work. i think he's saying no, no, no, no, no, no, don't talk me into it. i'm not an artist. artists they are the same as they are all the time in doubt. they are somehow dissatisfied with what they are doing, but i am satisfied. he is an absolutely brilliant person and, in fact, on the recording he replaced all my viewers at the same time. he cried, he laughed, he blushed, turned pale, got angry, invented and talked all the time. what are you doing. you make me beat and don't let me cry. you won't let me, you won't even let me cry, absolutely unique person. so i had good teachers too. i think that they replaced the conservatory for me. uh, 100% replaced uh, or rather not replaced. and just expanded, and the concept of performing arts. i learned to sing, and at the age of 22. i voiced the life of the climate of samghin. and you know this seriously, when

such a film process depends on you, and you are still twenty-two years old. eh, you can say, well , almost a child still can’t do anything, and only a folk song somehow. there were less and suddenly you are told to do something artistic. and you do it. uh, you know, i had a feeling that i was a child prodigy here. i felt like a child prodigy. probably because i was such a child at the time. i in general, i recently matured, i’ll tell you a secret, so no, that you no, of course, i had several psychological sessions, probably, yes, probably. yes, probably, yes, that's when i realized that this is already a psychologist, and then i realized that i and i can grow up childishness helps. e, applied e, where it is necessary in time, they say, and adulthood helps in general , feelings help. uh, you know, well, and i guess it's not a secret. e, when you were a long time ago i was performing in

one high place and e quite such a serious gentleman came up to me and said e and it was i'll tell you in the ninety-fifth year. he says, you know, what will be the main deficit in 20-30 years. what that feelings are feelings and that's when your feelings are very needed. i don't know if that time has come or not. i think so, in general, it has always been in short supply, and it seems to me that all people wanted to feel want to feel, because feelings are real emotions of feelings. this is movement. this is the drive, this is the motivation. this is the will to live. in the end. you understand people like you, we're still not on them. if i added to this, at least a little efforts. i am perfectly happy. it's about titles. maybe, yes, say goodbye to people. i think that they will now be the inter of glory, there is the internet. the entire internet will be sifted in

search of new interesting appearances of your favorite singer, dear friends. thank you for your attention. it was an anthropology podcast on lord's first