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why do i need an order? i agree to the medal, amazing accurate hit. in sympathy, and for those who are at the front, devoid of ideology, devoid of abstract e schemes, and a work that, in truth, e, overcame its boundaries and was printed day after day , week after week, and that is why this is it. eh, the thin little book serves as a wonderful addition to the poem by alexander tvardovsky well, as always, i tell you, our dear interlocutors, that a paper book is very important , a specific book is very important. like a thing which speaks to us even at the moment when we do not read it. of course, this text can be found on the internet. you can find it in a collection of works of such a red color, this is a collection of works, as you and i, of course, remember, but it is very important to remember and know.
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it is very important for alexander tvardovsky that there is such a little blue book that lay on the table of all readers who loved e, military poem, and they remember and once again turn to the text of this book. well, now let's get back to you alexander yakovlevich and let's talk now about your other betrayal. you have already mentioned that you are changing translations in university classrooms, at least take into account translations there too, right? yes, i have it there. hmm, this is conditional treason, one couple a week, let's say you teach at the russian state humanitarian university, but still, for our contemporary what is the biographies of the fate of these people. well, perhaps, perhaps, only agatha christie has such a reputation, how to formulate it correctly. well, well known. large circle, but also with you
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the dawn is mine, maybe somerset is mine. and , probably, oscar too. well, still less degree, yes, well, here is a series of such a virge, wool fagata christie redi-art kiplinger, oscartualt francis scott figerald or fijerka, fijerians henry miller grand. well, i don’t know years of chaos, but chaos, yes, yes, what prompted you to do, we have already heard. it's like a coincidence. well, yes, in a sense, it's an accident. we translated these people. uh, i uh, actually translated some of them. that is, the desire to know more about whose texts you are translating, please, what is not. you know, it's really what you just said is the first thing that comes to mind, but among them among these writers is not necessarily my favorite. you
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know the factors, i am a very gambler, and i need more details from this place. that is, this what is this this is some kind of attempt of a kind of a kind of attempt to understand the life of a little-known bright fascinating to find in this in this life something something unexpected for oneself and for others and somehow it’s hard to try to write vividly about this life in russian, but to say that i choose the authors whom i translated. so i'm interested in writing about them, because i transported them. i can't say it. this is very curious. but here is the tricky question. maybe it's not tricky, and you decide for yourself, but still , tons are written about many of them in english , tons are written about many of them in english, but not in russian. yes, they are written in russian in russian about them, in principle. very little, for example,
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see for yourself, for example, scary and famous the author is a favorite author, of course, uh, he has a huge audience, ranging from uh, picky admirers to, so to speak, to a wide one, but uh, there was no biography of his own before that. it's mine, maybe that's why it is considered one of my most successful ones , precisely because, uh, no one knew how his life was arranged. and how he lived and with whom he communicated and what were the features of his life. it was all very interesting. this is one side, the other side. i found found in myself. i'll tell you how in confession so desire desire to write yourself you know, that's about translator, who all his life, i said yes, who sits and translates from him apparently arises. i'm already here vnika- into the complex in some kind of fredism. yes, e appears
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in my words, some kind of real complex appears, that i translate everything and translate everything alien and alien, give it back. i'll write my own, but i can't write my 100%, so, uh, a literary biography is a kind of compromise between the desire to write my own and a literary translation, because i'm still, like an old man, i don't just walk, hold on to the wall, hold on to stick. you see, because the biography gives me a plot, especially such a column of those who are still known in one way or another, of course, so this is in a sense like this. now, if i express myself clearly. this is a kind of compromise between, uh, a literary translator who cannot take a blank sheet of paper and smear it in the way that seems possible to him, and at the same time, this is an attempt to write something of his own uh-huh but
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this literary biography. i want to say right away, this is still my own. yes, not very still writing about the other person. you still write about the other side, you understand? you are peeping, i would use this word in someone else's life, yes, yes, yes, yes, you don’t invent, so to speak, pechorin onegin’s parsley of verkhovensky is there. uh-huh, you follow. uh, that is, you are peeping following the recipe, like makar, the girl of the hero of romanov, poor people, he likes pushkin , but he doesn’t like goll, who seems to be following me, that’s exactly what the whole point is. something i'm not ready to all appearances, i still write my own. well, i'm scribbling some columns of the editor-in-chief of a foreign literature magazine there . it must be said with great pleasure that i began to write, and i was recently told about such columns, we have a very good new site and everyone says that
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the editors-in-chief write columns for sites of thick magazines, you don’t write something, and i mean, i got stronger in time, and began to write in general. i do not know how it comes out, but it delivers with little water. i am fine. that is, it turns out that i have it. it's elka i want to write, but i can't write, so to speak. roman well onegin has not yet been invented. well, who knows, maybe everything is ahead, but i would like to return, not at all. well, no, in this area. no, well, we won't have another password. so it looks like you don't remember the correct answer. if a simple question turns into a quiz, it can help for lunch for lunch improves brain function, memory recovery and concentration. napept to make the head work vtb super credit card gives customers a real superpower buy more superpower. present
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were or were less indifferent to me, for example, if you are indifferent to me, you will be amazed by agatha christie, i relate to her. and i treat her quite calmly so to speak and wrote. i also her biography, too, out of some excitement. why do they love you. that's why good, a good stop. i can't read detective stories at all, i confess. here i am too and when i took other than the crime of punishment. yes, i said whose editorial office or fur coat, i have for you great ideas to write a book. eh, that would be the third book that i'm talking about here. agatha christie woman because i understand that this is a commercial project. but, when you take up the pen everyone wants to know what she is with herself , especially since there is a certain mystery, she hid from the world for 2 weeks, and so on and so forth. well, anyway, back to who i love someone. i really love virginia.
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yelena's wulf, you're just barely here yes, in my heart i absolutely love graham greene this is wonderful my favorite writer. well, you know, perhaps, everything, like this about love, but i am more reserved. but in rejection in uf i love gentle once fell in love with her photograph. do you remember how you just fell in love with this depression for a photo where it looks like? yes , there are still frescoes on the surfer, yes, yes, unlike grandfathers, there was no adam and this stripe. well, yes, not at all. and even quite, on the contrary, even quite, on the contrary, even quite all this is connected with bloomsberry - it's so much. yeah, i don't even know what word to choose romantically mysteriously exalted very tragically, but it was simply necessary, perhaps, to begin with this word. yes, yes, yes, absolutely
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not a man of this world. yes, yes, if not for her wonderful husband, who looked after her and followed her, because she had to be watched so that she would not end up with you. yes, yes, if she did not have such a husband, she would have committed suicide much earlier, but see also, which is very important. again, i appeal not only to alexander yakovlevich albergant, but also to our interlocutors, because we are talking about literature together, it is important not only that foreign literature at some point, in some sense, replaced abroad. eh, russian, since russian was strong united due to the fact that you published abroad, something was written on the table, but something was not allowed; nothing from foreign, in many respects , the same thing happened, because that pantheon of foreign literature, which lined up before the war, or from the first post-war years, he was far from adequate, yes, that is, there was no joy
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was virginia wools was not david herbert died 2 months before she committed suicide. they are here at the beginning 41 they were not in russian, with the exception of these fragments in the journal of international literature. uh, hmm, there was no lorenz. no, not at all, not even was not at all. but there were completely different ones, the authors will not offend them, but they are wonderful. yes, in england, in america, in germany , these authors did not like. well, yes, she is all her own , this russian point of view of his famous ussr. she focused on ours with you lyudmila literature. like thomasman, she and she hated the late victorians of bennett voiceworth and wells the great writers, you can't say anything, but she said she was gone. well, about that. she didn't write at all. uh. the main thing is that how could she love
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bernard shaw when she loved chekhov here one of the two red formation - this is again an aphorism for you, our dear interviews. how can you love, how could she, and she always made it clear that if her paphos was a person, many of her and read russians. she by the way, she even learned a little russian in her circle was an emigrant. e from russia, who edited the translations of david herbert and taught his wife and her husband a little russian . she didn't do too well, but she knew perfectly well russian literature in english in brackets not perfect. at that time, she was translating, but through these imperfect translations she assessed the level of tolstoy chekhov, dostoevsky turgenev . this is important, because russian literature, of course, is for very many people. uh, eminent authors was a guideline, but of course, too
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lorenz david herbert of course, but uh, an unexpected parallel to aris is dead, who understood china in russian, i corresponded with her. i wrote to her in russian. she answered me in english, yes, yes, so i also sinned, and with the translation of e in the last book. i have a translation of such a platonic treatise - the concept, that is, the predominance of good, yes, over other concepts. well, here are the existentialists of sartria, and there is one more crazy book that is completely unhuman. fertility yes, how many of these novels she baked more and everything seems to be not bad even when yes, there is, especially brilliant but a magician, for example, and this is the second, in my opinion, roman is one of the first to be acquainted with the work of iceberg dear. yes, the first subnet novel. by the way, i never
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translated it, but they didn’t write it exactly. i am your favorite. this is her first thing the first thing, and the second is not a flyer. yes , some other, in my opinion, severed head, but i’m not sure i’m pronouncing it wrong, but now, even if i did , yes in this way, foreign literature and a translator of foreign literature dealt with a completely special subject. yes yes subject in front of him, which on the one hand was bred great, native literature steppe wolf. uh, my god, or the black prince is also arrested, not to mention the muslims. muslims, who, thank god, was in the canon , thank god, yes, yes, huge articles were written about him. there was no joseph dneprov there, and so on. joseph was not there; he was translated by salaman konstantinovich apt heroic 20 years translated these two huge houses. uh, and
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some people say it's not written better than german, i don't know how to u evaluate that. well, the other side of the matter is that our image of foreign literatures during the 20th century. i moved very much from one place to another yes, and continues to say so, i continue your thought. i would also say that maybe that's why foreign literature is still there. yes, even means more for russia. what is foreign literature for this country? that is here. eh, the russian territory of russian culture is the field where foreign culture manifests itself differently, of course, yes. this is a very important story. and that is precisely why the position is so important, and the literary translator, which you take many years and replace here and there. yes, but at first at first i did not cheat, by the way, then i began to translate for
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the journal of foreign literature, which you have been heading for, uh, 15 years since the eighth. it seems to me years, yes 15 years. yes, whatever, i would love to. uh, spoke to you today and it's a pleasure. it's mutual. thank you very much. that was today's edition of the literary podcast. let them not speak. let them read. today we spoke with alexander yakovlevich, a well-known translator from iskov and the editor-in-chief, foreign literature magazine and i, dmitry bag, at the end of our program, as always, speak with spasmos and with energy. all of you read with pleasure.
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hello everyone, we are in our podcast everyone wants to fly. i am leonid yakubovich today. i feel happy, because today here in the studio is the test engineer of the legendary tu-144 machine sergey petrovich akimov sergey petrovich hello. oh tupolev met here on channel one is a good place to meet. and then already. after seven years i got a badge pass everywhere. i've already walked into the area. and so i saw andrei nikolaevich twice. i
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came to the factory. do you know when they assembled the needle 134 car? uh-huh on the hoist looked down, how they collect it was a bewitching sight you worked drowned, all your life, probably, yes, yes, you worked there all your life. uh, then, uh, the workshops you are talking about now, i know him, they were entreated, i remember where these aircraft assembly sites are visible from, but my workplace was a little bit different from here in the zhukovsky flight test laboratory. yes this lived-ben is called the zhukovsky flight test and development base tupolev territory you tested the board, the legendary 144 machine. it's me, yes, i saw her, only this is how it is in tomilino assembly there, apparently, the only copy. here i saw him with a nose striking what i read about him.
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yeah, there was no concept of speed. i couldn’t understand it at all somehow some modes are amazing. tell us about this car in general, few people know, and this is two swings. yes, i found the car. this is two. maha, that's, well, that's normal cruising. and so you dispersed away, 2:35 the maximum would even be 2.37, in my opinion, just in case, i will explain that this is about 2.000 and a half a little more kilometers per hour. yes, something like this, uh, at these altitudes, the speed of sound is 1.060 km/h. if everything is according to the standard, if the standard temperature. here is further. you can already have a coefficient of 2.35, which generally started with him. there was such a tight meeting with me, vladimir nikolaevich benderov. it was such
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a close meeting with him. i saw twice something jacket on one shoulder. well, it's generally a legendary figure, it can be spoken endlessly. i think our time is simply not enough for this, really, yes, who suggested you take a car? you know what, but i generally aspired from childhood. that's right here exactly to tupolev is a flight test. that's how it happened. i have a biography of such a father. i first showed the pilots to me in the fifty-eighth year dimly the fourth i saw him and immediately was completely stunned and, uh, fell ill and fell in love with this plane. at the same time and firm and thus. it was mine so to speak. well guiding star with childhood. i started flying gliders at school. eh, here we lived in tbilisi here. i now made my first solo flight as a schoolboy and the idea was completely incomprehensible
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in the process of learning from my club. well, in my studies, you graduated as an engineer, and i graduated from engineers as an engineer, but in parallel. i studied at the airfield, graduated from the club and, uh, went in for aviation sports there. i recently reached 18 a. at that time, here's how i got there, well , with my own efforts i made my way there from a raid test base, although we lived in fili in this time to zhukovsky is far enough. here, well, well, well, the guy cannot be denied. here is such a one with a major to throw off such a one, and when i came to the test base, they put me on e, air conditioning systems, but the planes were tested, e, tu-144 elena eduard vaganovich hero of the soviet union a little later. so
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they introduced me, who is the forty-fourth in air conditioning systems. and julian had such a hmm and manner and such a rule that he should have been intimately familiar with every engineer who helps him test the aircraft. well, also got to know me. well, we talked for two hours , the conversation ended with what he told me, so you're out of place. i'm suggesting you move on. here in this direction. in the direction of the work of the lead aircraft test engineer in general, and i will help you with this, yes, and then this question, so to speak, is technical. what is your impression? made 144 when you first see it. did you see her in the workshop or in the workshop? she had already made the first two flights at this time, when i saw the first time, i still as a graduate student got to the base. well, what an impression, maybe for a guy who is delirious about this business, such a machine can happen. here, uh, i
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never imagined that someday i would suddenly sit in it and i would fly. uh, the crew is so probationary. how many people is the crew on this car? e on this machine . the crew standard for four people is two navigator pilots, a flight engineer, but in tests there are always more, which means that the leading engineers - this is a must-have stubbornness has always been so accepted. that's why i flew on board. that's it. well, then there were engineers by profession, 144 cars are a breakthrough, in general, in science in technology. what is the difference between at least the method of control, the methods of controlling the machine from the ordinary, let's say this. i would not talk about this. well, i'll overthrow the drill. yes, it is clear that there are subtleties here. in general, there is such a common opinion that uh. time is an unsuccessful design and why was it necessary to do this at all, so i would consider this work on this
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by plane. like a job in fundamental science. so well, you can't take the tenth step in some direction didn't take the first step, but consider that we took the first step. so it was a revolutionary machine in terms of materials. so in part. well , yes, you correctly hinted, but control systems. yes, indeed, she was uniquely controlled. well, let's say, no one had controlled the centering in flight before, and here we were pumping. this fuel is in large quantities and the alignment was changed to the necessary in order to go beyond the sound normally. so uh, this there is such a subtlety for an amateur. it can be explained that, well, the plane must have a slightly more rear centering, otherwise it will be dragged during the passage of sound in a dive, from which it will be impossible, so for some reason this matter must be compensated. well, in this case, it was offset by fuel. these were quite unusual engines. yes, with a thrust of 20 tons each, but there has never been such a completely unusual navigation. well, it's speed. eh, well, let's put it this way. uh such a
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vulgar word as crazy yes application, uh, to this case. there should have been be, uh, there is an automatic navigator on board, so he was put on board this aircraft. here we are now, uh, driving, uh, in the car, so we use the navigator on the phone and we think that all this is as it were. yes, this was not, but at the time when 144 appeared on board. it practically was, but we also saw a map of the area that flies. here it is a revolution, a huge revolution. let's say such a thing as titanium processing. here the mass was used for the first time on that forty -fourth it was born on this design general titanium processing technology. so much so that a lot of useful things were done, and you know, expediency can be said in different ways, but here we remember, for sure, october 4, 1957. yes, the flight of the first satellite. well, what kind of
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profitability was there, so no, well , some kind of piece of iron is flying there, squeaking. yes, but uh according to the schedule published by the newspapers. we look at the starry sky and see this running dot. and what's next, and then today, here is the phone that i just gave you said yes, that's all. the rest is without satellites. we cannot live. it also became profitable just like the sound drill, apparently, then it turns out that the 144 machine gave the start to some kind of theoretical development, which from a scientific point of view should have continued, unless, of course, of course, i tell you, it continued and continues. so, well, you may have heard that in the nineties, together with the americans, under the auspices of nasa, we conducted a research program on the tu-144. why this program was made, the americans began to develop supersonic passenger aircraft of the next generation was developed by them. hmm
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uh, well, theories, or what? here is the design of this aircraft, some kind of algorithm, uh, which certainly should end with prediction, characteristics, and any one of these, here is a theory, it is saturated with empirical forms. well, out of my head. in general, coefficients are invented there, all kinds of relationships. we need to test them with life in order to, uh, understand how reliable this theory is, how much it can be used. well, for verification. here the americans asked, uh, to use the tu-144. well, we gave them such an opportunity, uh, they, with the help of what, this is a theory, sort of re -designed the party forty-fourth and bugged some of the characteristics. so i happened to do this work. hmm, i was with them in the center of california and i realized at that time how much more we know this area than they know it, but nothing there
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were very obsessed guys, real specialists, real engineers. i talked with them with pleasure, but what ended work when they tested their theory, they concluded today. uh, having these materials that we have, those engines that we have, those fuels that we have, it is not possible to create a cost-effective supersonic passenger aircraft. and they closed their project to the best it is impossible, in general it is impossible for everyone, because there are no such materials and there are no such efficient fuels that are needed for this aircraft.
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