if you're affected further, if you'll be like this, well, you'll have to go through more than five and a half thousand. yes, uh, make a plane for this range. for a larger one, you will have to fill in disproportionately more fuel, because the fuel will be eaten up on takeoff, in climb. uh, due to the already increased weight, it will eat it. so it turns out a significant deterioration in performance. here are the ranges. here at ranges of more than five thousand 500 km. so, that is, our task was more difficult, we made the plane at a distance 6.200 aircraft were made to khabarovsk. well, the point was to understand, yes, khabarovsk was then such a hub of the far east, yes, from which he was already quickly transported to moscow. ah, passengers. here. uh, so this thing is a little different aircraft compared to the concorde. and again the podcast everyone wants to fly, i'll

tape yakubovich. we are talking to the test engineer of the legendary tu-144. well, let's continue once i read a wonderful one. in my opinion, the little book is tested in the sky, which was written with marga. yes, there was one phrase that struck me and still since. it's in my head that if their testers' speech goes to work as a heroic deed, then he is not ready for work. what does it mean correctly with these flags. i live, i must immediately remember from this book a little differently. it sounded if you think that you are going to a feat. yes, you 're not ready to fly testers and live today. and today live is a test work. it's more work. it is already being prepared for. well, i don’t know, well, it’s also dangerous to walk down the street at this time of the year, yes, they fall like an icicle from above. yes well, don't compare anyway. how long have we been going

on ? you have to prepare seriously to prepare, and then they are so scared. how long does it take, well, it took work to get the car on the wing, you know, what will tell us about what an airplane can experience there in a year. well, you can't test it like that. you can check its main characteristics during this time specific. yes. so you need to check in icing conditions, you need to check the cold in frost. here i am, i happened to experience that one hundred and sixty-four meters and so, i spent 3 years in yakutsk in the winter. so i spent three meters in tashkent on this tu-154m. much does not depend on you personally. yes , a lot still depends on nature, so in a year you can have a plane under one, well, a couple of years normal normal well, of course, many had a question and everyone got the feeling that

they were the first passengers. oh, they were all selected so that they were uncommon, nothing like that. so, if you are talking about supersonic, yes, yes, then i happened to participate in passenger flights, because alexei andreevich already said stupidly then. so, my leading engineers will also fly with a passenger. so we were part of the crew. these are the first ones who started the form of civil aviation, and they flew. there are no selected passengers on these flights. there were no normal ordinary people there and i had a chance to communicate with them, and in flight and after the flight we handed out questionnaires to them in flight. i have these before until now, the form of this questionnaire has been preserved there, well, on occasion, maybe even a gift, if it was interesting to you, well, there were questions, how they liked it in terms of service, of course, mostly. e. well, of course, technical issues for them er. well, they'd be useless, well the service there was first class. the first one is cool, uh, and drinks and

karacharny and uh, in such a spirit in the soviet era. oh, do not tease the soviet era, imagine, of course, of course, but then there was very close cooperation. e scientific technological fields. we are with the americans went approximately toe-to-toe, if we work in the field of the subject that we are now talking about, how far we have all moved together. and at what second we parted because until now space we work together, in spite of everything we parted, of course, in vain, of course, sadly. here i was with them there in the states, at the edwards air force base in the nasa center, so i saw that they were the same engineers as we are, the same pilots as our pilots. and, of course, together we could do much more than we do now. like this here, it turns out everyone works on their own. well, that's another question. simply no. i

understand, it's sad, of course, it's sad, but a little bit about andrey nikolaevich protupov. well, excuse me, for god's sake, i saw him twice in my life. i saw how everything around me froze and just now. and he was walking this work jacket on the shoulder. yes, yes, it was. but look, nikolaevich. see, i, uh, i already told you how i dated. yes, i'll take it off behind the back of the chair anyway. here is a value that is not discussed at all. well, a gem. just some kind of ingot precious with alexei andreevich and his son. i worked a lot of hard work, uh, and i have a better opinion of him than they sometimes write with bland. i know for sure that when alexey andreevich came to the company after graduation. yes, in a year he went all the way from an assembler to

a design engineer, a normal, correct father , he led him through everything exactly like that. yes, it was like that, i don’t know, outwardly it was easy to work. i was never afraid to tell him, well , things that are probably unpleasant for the chief designer. yes, he was the chief designer of 144, but only then he was the general designer yes, uh, i kept a very good warm relationship with alexei andreevich to the end, and i always feel good for him at all. well perspective. what are the prospects for, say, civil aviation or aviation in general, i'm not talking about military aviation now. although these are comparative moments, nevertheless, civil aviation has a perspective. but we understand what we say in a country like russia, it is generally impossible to live without civil aviation. well, well, petropavlovsk-kamchatsky or anadyr and moscow yes, i must say some. here and here is the far north, for example, yes, we have, uh, on what you

will get, besides the plane, so civil aviation is absolutely necessary. so not on deer, we won't get there, we'll get to the sink very much. here the planes must be civilian, but maybe, you know, we still had amazing ones. i know they are. il - sixty-second il-86. uh. yes, even tupolev cars that have been and will be walking, but i think so, the company is amazing. you've probably heard about it just like me. now they are reviving that uh, 214. well, they are not being revived, they were built and built like this, but already on such a large scale, because new cars, well, they do not have time to pass all the tests. e to be launched normal serial production. it was necessary to do these planes earlier normally. they worked for us without any and airbus without any. uh, would work fine would work. they may

be a little less economical. yes , they did a little in russian, yes, but we live in russia with you. so it's good that they done in russian. they are clearer to us. i know these planes, i am grateful, probably, just like you. i still remember the alma mother, i remember the institute, which we learned so much and only after many years. i began to understand what the institute had taught me. uh-huh. so i'll add. you know, well , there was nothing superfluous at the institute, it turns out. here i am young. e hmm a future specialist very often. eh, i explain, at the institute it doesn’t give you anything extra. it will come in handy at some point, really. i did it, but it's a library. she's all here yes, any second. suddenly it comes out from under the crust for sure. you know where, what to find, you won't remember the formula. but you know that it

is here in this book, i even mine with you, yes, my mishka perky finished mine. well , there are a lot of mine, uh, great singers and others, but once, yes, oh, after all. i bow to people who are in the air, who are generally related to aviation. probably, i think so, that this is still a god -given profession of extra people, there are practically no extra people, but there are no extra people in the crew, there are definitely no superfluous people, but so, because they pass through a sieve. these people, before becoming real specialists. that's where the normal specialists remain. er, what about the crew? you said there are no extra people in the carriage. yes, uh, i am categorically opposed to the two-man crew that is being preached everywhere these days. yes, there must be three people. there must be three

pilots, one of them must be free of control. i, as a lead test engineer at one time. yes, here i am was like this. each case is its own business, i saw everyone. i understood that in total such a person happens on board, it is necessary on board, but psychologically. probably, after all, this is the atmosphere when three people , four people, five people, it’s still more favorable, especially on the far shoulder at a long distance, of course, i looked the other day. excuse me, you were talking, you had a conversation with kachmasov. come on, here you are, these are the members of the three-ruble note. well, i also talked to him about the time that i am categorically against two members crew, yes, and categorically against such a selection of the crew. here i sat down. i am the commander of a stranger i am sitting in a hurry. this is not clear to me. like maybe in the air. we

were different. here, our commander was assigned to some test program of testers, of course, a little different. so, he recruited his team. this includes the lead engineer. i am the lead engineer. this is how we worked. and it was right. i am very sorry that we do not have a museum. which would have collected all the cars and would have been the history of aviation was the same in one place in another place, and then all this once began to disappear. but you can't restore it. sorry, but you weren't in lightning. well , isn't this such a museum, not quite the same after all. i thought that the museum would put all the cars, even those that did not go up for testing, and somehow the whole thing is a little different. why are they there, after all, somehow i sometimes came, they were covered with snow,

somehow i was so sorry. i can’t even look at the planes that are on the pedestal. it's so easy for me to look at them. you know that there is a tu-144 aircraft number 77 106 in the mine, here the aircraft, on which i , including as a member of the crew, made the first flight on the moscow-alma-ata route on december 26 , 1975. i saw this plane there in lightning, uh, in the nineties, disassembled uniforms in down and out, and i see now what volunteers made of it there. these are not workers. museum. this is a living plane. i enter it. everything works there. inside. i think it really wasn't there, and it was all done by volunteers. so what is there who else can do it. unfortunately. now they have disagreements with the management of the museum, and uh, here they are for a month or two. they run a museum there. why do i say so?

i saw a wonderful museum in minsk. uh , nikolai petrovich mochansky, a huge number of almost a hundred boards in very good condition, they open on sundays and children can climb anywhere, then a week. a very good museum is being restored there, a wonderful collection of vadim zadorozhny in the museum, just how can i say that? well, this is the history of the country, but you see, they need to be collected together, probably, here they are separately in different places. well, it's impossible. let's say. here, uh, translate monin's exhibits somewhere so they simply disappear along the way. well, there is only one difficult to translate titanium here, this board, everything is difficult to translate there. yes, large machines to transfer all the pipes for the sake of them cannot be disassembled, and then reassembled. it’s already impossible to sprinkle, yes, it’s better not to

touch it anymore. let's go back for a second, you started. uh, come on then 144, you said when he stood still in the shop or he was already standing after the first two flights. he made the first two on the thirty- first of december. he did the first one, and then he did it sometime in january. i'm still, in my opinion, on the fourth or sixth of the second flight. in the workshop. you have to work, you come to work when you remember for sure at tupolev's. after all, before. i don't know how the cars were made of wood now. three-side models were made, one went to the testing laboratory, the design was torn apart. yes, one went to flight tests in tomilino in zhukovsky a. the third was made from tree. just absolutely absolutely with appliances. so beautiful, well, that's right. and now there is no such wooden model in the tupolev design bureau 144 144, but there is an airplane. uh, here is 324, instead of which

a superjet was born, and this 324 is a wooden normal one with all the instruments with steering wheels and wooden seats for passengers. i don't know how hot it is for you here, when i remember, mailbox 118 , uh, zhukovsky, everything, i'm so pleased to talk to you, as if i 'm back. well, back to the firm. believe that mutually, because it is always pleasant to talk with a person who is a pilot involved in the sky and we always understand, you know, i say goodbye. i want to give you my book. i really want you to enjoy it. same as i received today thank you from meeting you. thank you. we say goodbye to you. me not. yakubovich is more perfect than i don’t know how you admire the fact that i am standing next to a man who experienced an amazing legendary car, 144 sergey petrovich i

am glad that you are here, we say goodbye to you and i hope you will come back to our podcast. everyone wants to fly. see you soon. what time will you be back home? do you know how long you tried to be faithful? you're right, you'll do it, if you leave him a girl, and what's

with you anymore beggar don't call me anymore. i'm not your best friend, we are different shores. i will hand over to you for my desire forever only my secrets i originally and how many times at night we are. it didn't work, you imagined our house, i imagine, now it's empty no one no one

robin roll girl. and i'm just a soul, who lost? the point was a game. more beggar already don't call. i'm not your best friend, my native coast. i will leave you on me forever. forever i

haven't been here for 5 minutes. and then the whole battle with the band was formed not in the summer. oleg alyoshenka son friends. well, once they came and drank, well, let's sit down, although for five minutes. i beg you , in general, we all could not imagine, such a trio. tell me, whoever has the idea, was born to collide. this is how it is for me. i'm not surprised. it would be strange if they wrote to me, look, we didn't really know each other. oh, we are guys. here danka i was even at a concert a long time ago in yekaterinburg on a solo note to me in stories , the idea was born to me. and such a song was born. i saw danka there, i wrote to him. he can say that he reacted immediately, and then he offered to call lyoshka. here, yes, in fact, you very rarely, uh, join with someone, how to say e in duets somehow i have one person with whom you are ready to constantly

fit. this is your good friend, eh, but why guys, for some reason i decided this way, firstly, i have such a stage, i actually often bursting into some joint musical stories, because it’s just interesting to me, when oleg wrote here, i’m so high. it’s interesting for me, no matter how i communicate with him, i never know his music live, i think i’ll listen to the listener, i think it’s a buzz. i perceived oleg as a countryman. that's great energy. i really like the energy. so i think, so cool, vocabulary, b, damn it, just lyosha before we crossed paths not so long ago. they went into the hall together. moreover, i had this idea and they immediately voiced it to oleg. i already knew the song would be such that there will be three people there will be oleg and i will be lyosha, so i suggested gently not right away. i say to oleg, damn it, maybe we’ll pull lyoshka up, it was generally a cool story. and he is just like all of us with ekb. i asked, in my opinion, an acquaintance or not. you said that yes, something somehow intersected at the concert, that you, in short, babble history. i approached him, yes, yes, i say, well, nothing. i

say i will send it to him. uh, i wrote the verse myself. that's when, more or less, a strong haze of some kind had already sent lyosh here. he said high. everything is cool, a month. we waited lungs. well, i just had a concert, it was just concerts. and how are things with you, i will briefly say that the performance is not planned. some kind of music, maybe it is planned to do repairs at home, nothing was done. all is well and calm. and the boys have this man. and this is, well, then we 'll talk to them. well, it's not summer that oleg is going on a date with us. danya is riding a horizontal bar. and lyosha is nothing left with us, this is one topic. here, i didn't bother much about it. goodbye, you know, there, i don't know on the track with nastya in the left stand, she is here to the motor to the camera. we normally communicate with her , the camera begins. immediately danya is there, here you are at last. class, i think it's cool. you

understand that he is much respected, there are many stars closer and an artist who spends more time in the gym than me, yes, it turns out. the three of us are really in amazing shape, the brother of one can have some kind of musical accompaniment, so that the guys are beautiful already, of course, danka is for us. thanks thanks bro. where are mine but this is not the whole set today, our podcast , a person came to us, we can say that if mendelssohn's march sounds at weddings, then when girls

suffer in life, they listen to it. meet our incomparable loved ones irina dubtsova what a bright fire fire indescribable beauty tell me please i have a question right away irina and you know lyosha svik, of course i know. well, i don't know, of course i do. if if you want to talk about what and now a huge number of young artists in whose songs in chat rooms we know them listening to there in the car and so on, they never in our lives will we recognize them on the street. lyosha does not belong to such people. not in the sense that you are also known by sight. i know that you write music and songs not only for yourself,

but also for a huge number of artists, so that everyone understands now, and timati anton's song is easily written. quite right, i still take offense at the team at that time timan, because i was indicated only in the authors of the text. although i also wrote the melody for this song, an injustice. more reasons for the station here and orders to leave, how dare i kill you, boundless faith in love. well, who is now the god of battle i don’t hear the musical usa, you will forgive me everything. i'm right for the rapper today, after all , you'll forgive me everything later. that's a lot of people

don't know this. and in general i would like to know, in general, is it expensive for you for money? yes , well worth the money. yes, of course, a lot, but a lot. but it can be that in the twenty-third year, rem dubtsova, uh, listen, i'll write a song for you, what can happen? that's what, of course, irina wrote a song to bilan timati philip kirkorov a lazarev. i went, probably not. no, why are we kicking you? we're all trying. he also writes himself. uh, writing tracks. you didn't want to write a track for anyone. i tried, i sold a few songs, but i probably still don’t want to give anything personal to anyone, especially if it’s personal, i honestly understand your position, because

a huge number of my colleagues are offended by me. uh, everyone's favorite megastars, including, a, for whom i still haven't written a song in many years. that is, they are waiting to ask me yes, yes, i’ll write, but i’m right here, well, it doesn’t suit me. lyosh, i wanted to say, i think you remember, uh, when you were just starting, when you didn’t have any popular direct super-popular tracks, there was one and we had it. well, a duet with a girl. we started on social media. and we started to promote your track. it really helped you. that's what we constantly filmed for him, constantly did, that is, the internet helped you advance or not. the internet really helped me, because i remember that i was in volgograd when this track came out. i realized that everything moved. uh, i took a one-way ticket 300 rubles. but i had everything and everything there, i moved to moscow. look, well, look, this is all. now we all think,

still still, that you still need a lot of money in order to get promoted, as far as i know, you are a simple guy. yes, that's how much you generally invested your money in your work. listen to all creativity. i can’t say, but she starts at the initial stage 15,000 rubles were invested in crimson light. all. year your classmates just wow. here so it moved. it was very cool. the most interesting thing is that i also have a crimson light in my head. well, more precisely, it also played a role in my life, but it was like a soundtrack to the summer. i went and it's what i tell him, i have musicians, guys. let's play. crimson light crimson light crimson light searched for us for a long time the crimson light fell, but the windows

are dancing in the darkness i'll get better sick light crimson light, crimson light, your hot couplet was looking for our house. i hear a program that is also changing and i like the harmony so much very, when you are jealous of me, the new one is high, but such is the law and it is ready and set it on fire, hold on it sets it on fire. hold on, we take off with you to a better life. crimson light fell windows dancing in the dark crimson light of christ

the best i have right nostalgia i have right nostalgia because that time in 2017-18, when lyosha was just beginning to gain such gigantic proportions and momentum. i have directly postponed this time in my head, the time of carefree youth and youth. i remember one day young, but then i have a plus or minus i was also still young, i will visit a rural disco and will rummage under lyosha svika. well when tell me when it was

the schedule will be rummaging and please arrange how you feel about young performers here are the creepers, then like, who do not like, talented youth. now there is a lot and it makes me extremely happy. i am very happy when authors -performers appear. i mean, i'm really high, that is, i should probably be, but i'm such a strange person. aquarius is also such a creative aquarius with bust, you know, such a chuhnuty here. that there should be, probably, probably, on the contrary, that is, there should be some kind of competition, some kind of creative or something like that. yes, and i am so much when i find out that the artist who sings some cool song class sings and i like it when i find out that this is the author of the performer. i've got it right i've got it right you know in my hand. this is such a balm for the soul, really a beach. and tell me, please, do you have a producer? here you are right away you are on your own, i know that irina you are already on your own yes, on your own. well, it started. of course i'm with the producer.

why did i have the most masters of ours , our unsinkable, our beloved by all dear igor igorevich matvienko , initially, when i sang in his group of girls, i was 17 years old. right now we are to his son this, when mom, i didn’t hear. that’s when we’ll go. his eyes are like what is a said mom and if you find yourself better , you will dress like from your picture hua juan was mom, i didn’t listen. here, and then this game

is screaming cool, that is. well, yes, with the horrors of show business. in short, i have not come across, it is generally difficult to break the creative working relation. it seems to me that it is always so difficult to leave from somewhere, but it was easier for me from the girl group. uh, because hmm igor matvienko didn't write songs for us. and when i realized that no matter how the group would develop. i decided to go into the state of swimming and a, driven by youthful, probably at that time, maximalism. i calmly came to the prolivskiy center and said, igor igorevich let me go, please, the contract is for 7 years. igor says. you wait for me, please, can i go to my songs, i will sing salt, i will go somewhere to sing. well, here it is the band is not moving, blah blah blah. and what do you think? here they wrote calmly terminating the contract, they released me absolutely calmly. yes, for several years i was in such a swimming, well, cool. i was young , listen, there was no money, i went back and sang at the studio, and there some sasha danko

was popular at that time, like 50 dollars earned. and here it is happily, well, as if for each age of their joy their jokes and their own, these are their attitudes. naturally. i waited for the star factory and fourth. so i went to her after i won this factory of stars. we are backstage. actually, yes class. thank you very much, really, and we can imagine behind the scenes, we met with igor grich matvienko and he says, stupid. well, what kind of fool are you? why were you silent? what do you write songs for? i say, well , as i say to you, that is, the person who created any ivanushki, that is, not a single passing song. that's it, it's not just hits, it's hits for a long, long years and decades. so i say, how could i even tell you, that, as it were, hello, i also write a song. well, probably, probably, everything happens in a timely manner with all the people with whom it is necessary when it is necessary and at the age at which please tell us, uh,

do you encounter hatred in your life? thank you lord no, no, it's cool. here i am bypassed. this is all. mostly. everything is somehow even as my mother says, she says, you have such a good reputation. we need to spoil it a little lyosha how are you doing? with a hatred of circumstances. by the way, by the way, i read somewhere on the internet that you were even at school managed to induce me with x it was all born. yes , red hair. this is a lot of fights and everything is fine. yes, then you grow up and everything changes in general on the opposite. i was also called rusty, i have gold. color, are you colorblind, right? on the contrary, it seems to me that red-haired people have the brightest eyes, such the most expressive freckles, i don’t know. this same in this same the entire beauty depends on character. you see, you perceive it, but someone here reacts differently beauty is in the eye of the beholder, we are men from the musical laboratories.

uh, we were wondering if you take one harmony and combine your two songs your two songs its sure that it was you the subdominant of the tonic, of course, well, almost there and there is there is there is a little bit. and in the end it turned out very beautifully, let's start with the song of the plane. and what is my song, and your love me for a long time, if you take your verse, yeah, and then sing your example perfectly. it's so easy to let go of something again to think that another city has solved all my problems. do you know it's not? i so wanted back to you, but as i was afraid of heights , i waited a long, long time. how many, many beats, only now he betrayed more often when we are away, how long, long he waited. how many many more

it didn't hurt hurt hurt lonely, love. me a long long time is not possible, that would not be the case and wealth. how i waited for you, how i waited for you, how i waited for you? waited cool cool look one more time. we have yours my your favorite song about him and we now listen and endlessly gestalts my best my song you will like it, more. no, wait, you know how when a song has some kind of, uh, historical purpose, then you can’t

get anywhere, so the song is about him and the song cried, for example. she cried when he left, you cried and on your knees asked to keep it still. now she's all wrapped up in love affairs. now, only while working, i forgot how to fall in love with flying again. and you closed your heart and tried every day. how many years and stars of their stars everything was already frivolous, but it’s a pity you didn’t understand, i will rise to him, the sky, i sweat in him abyss. i follow him. sorry pride. i follow him alone, i go to him alone, i go to him. raise the sky,

now they bow to him. i'm behind him, sorry bot. why does it sound so genius? i don't understand. i want these tracks to exist. now tell me, they said that you do not like to perform this song, that you are tired of it. it's somewhere on the internet. yes, why? well, this is a hityara. it's people who want more, but why do you know this, this is the problem of the first song here. uh, when the first song is super super mega hit then, and all other songs. we recently discussed this with a redhead, by the way, not with you, but with a redhead with andryukha from ivanushki, so, no matter how many ivanushki have time for hits, although for me it sounds attached as people say. i say, you're kidding, i say that i'm serious, i say that people say, yes, that's all.

well, well, they have a billion hits, a billion, he says, no, people just like yours have clouds about him and that's it. please tell me why you write such sad lyrical tracks, although life is so bright, radiant you can just change it if you like. anything, but the songs are so lyrical , you have to constantly worry about it. here is some kind of sad, and the mood to get because of this e is born. tell me, i have more fast songs in the program than slow ones. but these are such fast songs that you can only dance and cry at the same time. yes sad. yes , wait a sad technique, so anyway, to write a song about love. she needs to be lived. that is, it’s some kind of god forbid, but no, it doesn’t happen like that. and how does it happen happening? well, it seems to me, here, for example, those songs that became hits, as they said, like hats. yes, this song lived from the inside is somehow connected with you. well, that is, it turns out, well, those songs that you write

about well, there are also very deep words, how it was experienced or this, uh. well, i don't know, there, in my opinion, we'll watch the film, of course, in different ways. so some songs are absolutely 100% biographical, that is, they are dedicated to a specific person in a specific situation, as well. a specific date sometimes even there and etc. well, it happens, really. that's right, you said that, uh, these are the films watched, these are the emotions received from the outside. because if i had all this, everything that i wrote, i would actually experience it in my life. it seems to me that i would not be irina now tell me please, but there is a song for which i am ashamed of which i am ashamed yes let's sing everything then. damn, how young you are, but, but i want to do it like this to this song. we go to the bosonova remade with the boys, when we installed it on the big glands and play it.