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well, they found, of course, they were thirsty, respectively, for two days, the girl was found in the forest with bare feet, undressed. so it's a miracle that they survived, in general alena was already lying and falling asleep. she was dying. and how far from home, they found three kilometers of the house. yes, it’s my fault, yes, well, i just watched, they just changed the children for a bottle of 0.5 moonshine, they don’t hide six children.
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good afternoon, when i hear a story that your little children went for a walk and got lost, i have two questions: where did the parents look at the children or at the bottle and where did the guardianship authorities look at a dysfunctional family or at their salary? all accents placed, well done. today in our studio arina fedorova from the kemerovo region arin hello what happened in your village? tell me, on may 18, a tragedy occurred, two little girls aged 2 and 5 disappeared, and the girls left home and did not return. the girl was found in the forest with bare feet, but undressed
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. they were there until may 20 before the first half of the day. so it's a miracle that they survived, in general, as sergey drozdov explained to me, i talked to him sergey this who found the girls sergey guryev and sergey drozdov turns out. they found the girls. eh, so, accordingly, alena was already lying and falling asleep. she was dying, as i explained in this way, but the girls were without water. without food, on the 18th, night temperatures. what were? yes, it was not zero degrees. 0 °, but they were wearing nothing, if you say that they are with bare feet and in a thin dress. how did they survive? at all? let's get a look. what reaction did this story cause among the inhabitants of the kemerovo region in the kemerovo region, the second day two more missing sisters of the kemerovo region, sisters at the age of 2.5 years disappeared and volunteers sent to kuzbass on a train
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, about 700 volunteers from all over siberia are looking for lost children not immediately noticed everyone was worried about these slava girls and everyone hoped that they would be alive, that everything would be fine , it was scary, of course, for children, especially since they are so small, as a two-year-old girl could leave the house herself, so there was a little even shock. well, two girls of two years are shocked. this is a terrible, tragic area. two days later , they managed to find the missing girls , two sisters of two and four years old, went for a walk and did not return for four or two years, all the hungry hungry ticks were famous. alive tell me please, but in general the search began immediately. i see so many volunteers came when the parents reported or someone reported. how did you find out that the children were missing? eh, mother, it turns out that this antonina of these children herself. she went to a neighbor at 3:00 in the morning
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and asked her, and my kids, you have this for me it was only at 3:00 am that she realized that there were no children at home, and she went to a neighbor. yes, the neighbors went nowhere to the police. yes , because they slept next door, that is, hmm , when the children leave home and can spend the night with their neighbors at that age. yes, and the neighbor who sounded the alarm, or how it turned out, the neighbor said to her, are you lost your children. he is what she told her. no, i didn't lose them, everything is fine. but the next day, it turns out a neighbor. in the morning, well, i mean, these are already in the morning, she comes, and asks her. that is, you she found the children, she answered her that she sold them for him. and then it was already the nineteenth. the search for children has just begun, hasn't it? you gave us two names sergei gurin sergei drozdov, it was they who found the girl and i'm filming it myself. eh, self-
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salvation. let's see, we drove about 100 meters, because there was an orientation for someone in blue to wear a blue thing. they began to go around and on the field, here sergey noticed two girls lying, girls, don't be afraid. come to us, we have come for you. come to me , we found the two missing girls now feed him and go to his mother. where did you sleep? well, they found, of course, they wanted to drink, respectively, in two days they drank. well, in the area of ​​\u200b\u200bone and a half liters, the girls were dirty, there were burners hot on the street, that is, the children
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had a temperature, and in which room or not? we have a group all about children, yashkino, and information was received there. well, two girls themselves disappeared. the children themselves are, as if they were worried and decided to take part in order to look for
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children. and where did they go in search of information that in lenin and the headquarters was er, that is, the headquarters was quickly organized. yes, that is, it was. yes, apparently, divided into some squares, you were given some kind of your site. yes, yes , there is a group of lisa allert, they er, they divided us into teams and in this group we met my sister. the mother of these girls from their aunt, yes, it turns out that she also participated in the search, but the mother, but the mother was not. and dad, too, was not only an aunt. yes, my aunt, of course, was shocked that the children were gone, she went to pray. well, we kind of supported us and started walking , they gave us a site. yeah which way we went by these areas were abandoned, everything there was some kind of abandoned barn, but it’s understandable. what are we talking about when the girls say that they are not in some room. all the question seems to be asked, well,
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the room and the rooms. no, it works. in general, they walked, as if through a forest, and on this field, there seemed to be nothing like that. and how far from home and found. well, as they say 3 km home. it’s understandable. and you saw the mother of the children, it turns out that they brought the mother, she was sitting in the car, that they didn’t let her out so that they wouldn’t kill her. probably because, well, such a situation, it seems to me, well, any person, i just wanted her at that moment, just, well , to kill. listen, you said that this is not the first time this has happened, that the children were neighbors before. from this we can conclude that the family is dysfunctional and should have been registered with the guardianship authorities. they are registered. well, no one seems to know. yes? no, they don’t register anything at all, because their parental rights were already limited, as if their children and sister were taken away. yes, tatyana is antonina's sister. she
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helped her pick up these children, helped her, how to make repairs, but this is according to tatiana's repair in the house, what do you need to buy? well, i lie. well, you know what to feed on rumors. let us antonina herself from this mother of the mother of these two girls. and not only them. a family with many children, yes, we will find out what happened there? antonina come to us. hello, i came with one purpose to return the children. yes, i'm to blame, but i didn't keep track, my fault, of course we'll just talk with you to understand what happened, no matter how, they never went out with a fence, they always played near the house in the fence. just went to the swing, the eldest son arrived on a bike literally hours at 8:00. so i asked him, tyoma i say, the girls are on the swing. he says no says mom no. and if i'm not how much on a swing. well, somewhere, well, the beginning
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of the seventh. they first went to eat. the beginning of the seventh was when they were still playing near the fence. the kids also came there, they all played together, that there were a lot of them there, otherwise i went somewhere at the beginning of the eighth. he says you can look for 6:30. they went to the swing. yes, somewhere like this he knows what time it is in kemerovo 9. the beginning of the tenth begins to flicker, that is, it was light on he yes, it was absolutely light candles your elder son came and said that the children were on a swing. no, what did you do after you found out that the children were on the swing, no, we went. i went in the direction where the swing was, and my husband ran in a completely different direction to look for what, as if we knew that they would not go far. well, here we just have a forest next to the house, well , on the contrary, there is a forest, as it were, they always play there , we, as it were, he went there and looked. i went in the other direction and shouted nowhere.
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on a cold night the children decided to take off their shoes and take off their jackets girls do not be afraid. here we found the girls of the two missing now we will feed you and let's go to mom. there was never a sarafan. here on lenya a sarafan, most likely, probably, well, these are older children. well, i don’t know the things of my children, we would cook, where would we cook, the girls asked on the swing, what did you do, to be honest, yes, i drank, i don’t hide it. i drank quickly realized with whom you drank how much 0.5 moonshine, i do not hide
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a neighbor came to me. and for you it's okay. i was normal. i also prepared food. i say, here they came and the kids ate. antonin you didn't realize what happened. here i am watched you when you watched the video of your girls being found. i was very interested in what happens to a mother when she sees her children like this a ragged hungry literally on the verge of death. you didn't even know what you were looking at. this is the worst thing so guardianship came in a month of the police or later. well, literally, probably about 15 minutes after the police arrived, then guardianship appeared. and that they did guardianship, but they came in and said that it was a thin day for the kids, what are the people here much that the police? and the day of the children, let them go out into the street. and how many
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children do you have today, six? and they took everyone on the bus. after that i didn't see any of them at all, we'll see. how do you live, you tell us quite emotionally, how did your house go down? here is my house empty no. my kids' houses, nobody runs. nobody screams. mom, we want to eat no one swears at the bed. no one ditch the wallpaper, no one tears no one. guardianship authority. they flew in and took the children. just because i got lost. two children. but we found them mess. so, everything was proskino, things were all thrown out and everything was lying around. all sofas were straightened out. this is the girls room here, all their things are not street, here i have my
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smallest hostess, she loves to tear very much, i will now tear these pieces, and we will glue new ones. and mothers will help them a little. oops, i tore off a lot. mother. here i have everything here, here are the dishes, here are the dishes, here are the cereals. everything is from food. here i have a new machine. i always erase me always children are neat. i am always full. i have in the refrigerator. everything is a refrigerator full of meat. here and here the meat, here the berry is frozen for the children and salted lard. guardianship said that we have nothing to eat refrigerators are empty, and then they said in general, he says meat. have you decided on children? i don't understand why my children were taken away from me again. no, i don’t know how to get a star from the sky for guardianship. and you, that is, neat
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all the time all the time , generally clean, this mess i was when i went home, when after that's why you are in a sweater, it feels like, which has not been washed for 10 years already, to be honest, this sweater is absolutely new, i put it on for the first time. that's when they came especially for us. but this is also brought by the guardianship authorities. yes, but what we are now seeing, too , i was generally just in shock when this body, guardianship arranged cut it. here is the oilcloth. these are guardianships. wow! you are in yourself. ah , this is what i want. understand something you said, well, a big offense. kids, wait, no, a second. i ask this too, there are no guardianship authorities. i did not have time to get out, because our took away this pot for a month no one touched. this pot has been rotting for how much everything costs this floor. how much they swept under six
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children. i want to understand about the other, what do you live on, what income does your work, like a fireman, their salary comes from 25 to 30. here she is enough vodka for moonshine. it is clear, yes, but what kind of money do you receive benefits from the state. and how much, if not a secret, that i was stung, so to speak, by your interview in this mess. what are you drunk, the second thing that pricked me? yes, what is it, well, think about it, children disappeared. we found them, that we are who you found. thanks a lot. a great tragedy, the children are gone.
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you understand that a few more hours . if these children were not there, a criminal case was brought against you. for some articles, something like 136, in my opinion, 156. what are these articles? well 156. this is not the fulfillment of the duties of upbringing, the child's contingency with the submission of violence in connection with something an hour ago. children first time that at the time of renovation. i went directly to the application and wrote to the guardianship that for a month i was for the duration of the repair, did you yourself decide to give the repair to the children or did it? organs or
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the guardianship authorities came in a hurry and said, either you are now losing your children, or give something. well, they arrived, that it was still cold, that we were, as it were, before the summer. we waited for the walls to be warm, as if they were concrete. we waited until the summer, but at the end the guardians came to the guardianship authorities, they say you can do it. here we give you a month to repair. yes, and in tech- come tomorrow, he says to us in custody. write a statement that the children will be in the distributor for a month. i went and wrote a statement and they lived there for a month, and then you took them away. but how it's been a long time since we've been here for over a year, and the guardianship authorities and so on have come to the conclusion that you're thumping. yes, they seemed to come, well, you are registered in a narcological dispensary. no, they didn’t go to the narcologist at least once. do you have problems with alcohol? i don't seem to have an addiction. what does that mean i can't drink? why do you drink then if you can not drink? maybe it’s because
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of idleness that i just live and don’t work, there’s nothing. what i have well , no, six children, no, i take care of them, yes, what to do with these people? i don't know, well explain to me six children. she says, i drink idleness, mommy, i'll tell you. so there are such sunday bright happy days, when two of my children stay with me without. well, just with me. i dream of the time when i will go to work and have a rest, because it is hard labor. grateful but labor. you can’t even imagine that children can read a book to play games with them, that you can walk through the forest and tell what this blade of grass is called? how is it why the article for parasitism was canceled? explain to me, please, vasily zotov call here. this is your neighbor who is absolutely convinced that you have problems.
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has not been a child for a long time, it happened that this is alcohol. we have been drinking for a long time 10 years ago. well, i don't know for 10 years or not. well, like kids, well, in my opinion, she gave birth to boys, she didn’t drink like that. here are these now, then these girls here, that she began to drink more often. why is she drinking with sasha? or with someone else? well, i don't know, well, probably, well, probably, like that, so much in the village she did not see that she went somewhere there went. here julia asks her a direct question: do you have problems with alcohol. ie he question such you sick. she says, no, what are you, am i right? i want to drink, but i don’t want to, i don’t drink, i always want to start. no, i think if you have been drinking for several days, then this is already a craving. this alcohol is already considered alcoholism. sasha is drinking. well, he drinks too. let's ask if he still drinks, it seems like work. it's boring for her. and he is working alexander come to us. we have a good family.
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we want the kids back. i am very glad that you have a good family, only the family is now without children, and you are under investigation and, most likely, you will go to prison? what is a good family? yes it is our oversight, your oversight to swell and lose children. it's called we have a gaffe now. you have been living with tonya for a long time, yes, the ninth year. where do you work? he worked in the boiler room for us , they fire us for the summer and put them on the stock exchange, and autumn comes back. you are not working anywhere now. not now. yeah, before tony you were married, yes? and how many children do you have there? two children alimony, she did not file and the children are not allowed to see her two older children from her first marriage. they threw out estonia and gave birth to three new children. well, in principle, they also threw it, because your children absolutely definitely live exclusively on child allowance. and then on some small
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part that remains from your blue. that’s what they didn’t drink, then the children got it, where were you when the girls disappeared from a neighbor in kolyma, they were looking for them all night, when to believe it or gave it on wax, and your wife he also started everything and said on the bike there was no booze. she told us that the two of them drank a bottle of something. there means multiplying boldly by four. wait, why are you lying? why did i look for them, searched for them, then returned home, and thought that the children went to their grandmother and went to bed so it was, yes, i slept well. i hesitate to ask. no. come on, sleep well show me parents, at least one who will fall asleep, when two children are gone, he
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will not be photographed, even when they are found for another three days. sweetie, now that you're not you work, and for what do you get paid? how much paid 1.500. and how much wait. and how much does it cost, do you understand that now, when you are not working in the boiler room? are you in fact? you live on the money that we give to children , all who are here, there, the country is sitting here, these lovely women. ask me, i want to feed such a gutter, i don’t want to. i don't want. i want your children to disappear, wander through the forests
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, i don’t want to do everything so that these children don’t return to you all, but will the guardianship authority do this or not? that's what's interesting. let's let's listen. there is a paradoxical position of the authorities, guardianship almost, as always. the average statistical family that lives well we can see that there is not enough for the allowance somewhere. and my father was constantly moonlighting somewhere , somewhere, some kind of kolyma, somewhere, he was rarely at home, and mom herself was always at home with them. uh, there was positive dynamics , no special worries there. my family didn't call me. there are no signals here for a year. uh, nothing came from either neighbors or from relatives from school there were no children in go to school. children, neat and tidy, asked the children. how are you guys doing. well, everything, it's good that they ate porridge there or bitch, well,
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not hungry, no, everything is fine. they were taken to a social rehabilitation center on february 22, 22. there they were drinking alcohol – both parents charged. the mother took them away in march, coded, set the conditions, cleaned up everything. the conditions were created for children, that is, the pain ruined, probably, the neighbors. unfortunately, it is necessary, perhaps, it was necessary to go in, but we do not include this in duties do not go to neighbors. well, before that , symmetry really didn’t cause a corner. we were not very surprised when a signal was received that children from this family had disappeared and that the parents were drinking alcohol for a long time from the report of the ministry of internal affairs, and it is clearly visible that the parents did not make any attempts to search for children for a long time and deliberately did not report to bodies of the ministry of internal affairs and the disappearance of children are currently sent a statement of claim to the yashkinsky district court for the deprivation of parental rights of these parents. i don't i know how to talk to these women, that
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the situation is paradoxical on the one hand. oh , what are you, is it in this family? what do you mean, she's with us. she’s completely safe on paper, and you’ll notice right away. right there, covering your own ass. why did i say that you will not see the children, because they do everything that you did not see them, covering their ass. they immediately go to court, and deprivation of parental rights. instantly they did not work did not work did not work did not work an emergency happened, they realized it. all you fell into tenacious paws, guardianship. do you think the court will be on your side, or what? not a single argument was made today. why should the court decide that the children should stay with you, not a single one, if parents came here who said we repent for the time that we have no children. look how we poured the house. i got a job since the summer we have this job.
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no. we are ready to go now to be treated for alcohol together. all. well, okay, yes, somehow you could think that you really want to return the children. we we come to shoot, she is thumping, there are no children. it's like standing in the garbage and in a garbage sweater. so you got attached to this sweater, lord god, how is she a mother woman. let's call another woman another mother here. this is tatiana's sister. antonina , she claims that they are just to blame. you are to blame, of course, yes tatyana come to us good afternoon, dear studio. yes , this is my sister. yes, i don’t justify it in any way, but i want it. so that you help me, and you sit down, please tell me how we should help. i want us to have children
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returned anyway. well, of course, mana you once had such a situation right? yes , something has changed in her life, nothing has changed. do you really think that a mother with six children is a little less. maybe i’m from idleness. no, you saw all this, but she didn’t have such a thing, but you see it, now, according to her words from the authority, they awarded guardianship, which she had when you helped her return the children, come on, so her prison, maybe get better. or maybe not. drink at least three years will not be. well, why put her down? they found the children, why put her in jail? well, she didn't find the kids. and what did she do so that the children would not be contacted and so that they would do everything to us, the friend's okay body, what did the guardianship authority do, so that there would be no
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guardianship authorities. what do you do, what did they have to pick up, when the children were returned, they were never there. she agrees with you absolutely about or how are you doing? let's just look at home, we didn't go to look, look, there are guardianship authorities that have shown criminal negligence and this and more punish, too, guardianship of any small service. these cities are in administration. that's how dude in jackets and lazy. going through the papers make some decisions there fine. so, he throws a handkerchief, so you understand the fine. it’s understandable to sign, then, here, then someone is stricter there, which means that the amount is chosen by the aunts, who, as it were, even disdain to go into such premises, which actually happens to them, it’s important, apparently, this warm place with well, yes, the salary is higher than
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a small mole appeared on the tanned shoulder of the agronomist alena. elena didn't notice her. and the mole began to grow , got herself a girlfriend, and then another and another, but alena did not even think about it. why so many moles after thirty, and alena's husband nikolai noticed this and said, i love all your moles. he did not know that moles could be a sign, skin cancer history, it is better not to delay. go through a medical examination for free health, it is important here and now it seems that you are an adequate person, you sincerely think that she should give her children. well, maybe not to her, maybe i need to give them away, but i want to help them. yes, i want them. i want to take her. yes, i have one, i have my own house. well, that is, they'll fit parental rights there to put them in jail. you, of course, have reason to go to the guardianship authorities
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write a statement that you are ready, they offered you three children with them. and where do i get three more den i have to throw them away. well, he says you are blood three, and these, as i understand it, are the elders. and the younger ones that are not blood to me, the older one is also blood to you, because this is my mother. you 're on my mother maybe they messed up what? i don't know what they messed up there, but you're ready to pick them up. i'm ready to take everyone. i am ready to help my mother so that they come to me, so that they get a job, so that everything is fine with them, so that there is no more somehow in life. this did not happen again. listen to me. just let's take off the rose-colored glasses now, if she and him are only from parental rights. this means that under no circumstances , even with your good will, she cannot communicate with children. are you ready for this, i have to throw it out. you don't owe anything to anyone, i understand, she threw herself out a long time ago. i
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can't get her out of my life. you sympathize with her because she is your sister bloody and so on. yes, to be honest, i don’t care about her life, as always in this studio. she adult. here is the subject of our concern here and i ask me, just as a citizen of the russian federation, can i entrust these children to these parents? i will say, no, we heard a wild story, as always. let's talk to the experts. what to do and how, let's start with you soon. uh, literally today a request will be sent from the profile committee of the state duma a. first, uh, you have to understand. eh, what happened next with guardianship, we will also petition that in no case will the children return to you, and already on the aunt too it is necessary to find out. why are they offered three. why not? what about a personal request? don’t give birth to antonina, only more,
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please, well, dear, aunt tatiana yes , please leave hopes, uh, to take all these children for yourself, why? because you, too , are not healthy in the same way as your sister, i do not go to yours is called codependency. you are trying to save her children, and so on absolutely, without weighing your own strength. you really are now in some kind of denial of reality, and the reality is this. and let yours beloved dear sister. the disease that is most deeply ill in a person is chronic and judging by what we have seen, and what is called the stage of remission, it does not shine. well, only if a prison comes, how deliverance will definitely cure. she doesn't educate and re-educate people like you . coincidentally, i'm generally from the kemerovo region, and well, as if on
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this air, it might be more clear to me. why did it all turn out this way? well, how strange, by the way, that they missed such a moment, that there is taiga everywhere and it would be interesting, well, in quotation marks, to see how you would be if the bear just pulled them up, it’s understandable, yes, what i ’m talking about is not addressing all my colleagues and the psychiatry service for narcology of the kemerovo region, but putting them on personal proactive account. hey, those characters. and regardless of what the investigation decides. bring people to remission and attend according to the schedule, which is provided by law in the most difficult cases. and if this is not done, then i will manifest initiative. how is your colleague? it is very easy. i'll just fly home and see who is personally responsible for this area of ​​me in this studio.

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