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a special analytical issue of the big game is on the air and today we have a conversation with karen shakhnazarov, an outstanding film director, the general director of mosfilm and a man of great political intuition and outstanding erudition to see you. thank you so much for taking the time to give such kind words. i've been looking at progress this week. and this is brix in johannesburg. i tried, uh, to figure out what that means, and i came to the conclusion that, in general, my difficulty, she easily explained face to face.

you can’t see the faces, and when you are a contemporary of some big event, even if you look at it from a certain distance, then , in general, it’s hard for you to determine, and what it can result in, but it seemed to me that what happened very great potential, and we will talk with you about what happened and what didn’t happen, which also needs to be realistically understood, but when it was first created in the fifties, camon market, the common market, the predecessor of the european union, it was really predominantly a customs union, but it never occurred to anyone, including its founders , that it would become so big? such an influential and not just economic, but also political and gradually military organization

and even less the founding fathers. from this common market, they assumed that what they were doing as a balance to the united states, that it would become to some extent an appendage of america with a significant loss of its sovereignty by europe, which directly contradicted their original intention for the first time, but nevertheless less. that's when we look today at what happened at brix for me. uh, as for you, as i understand it, very often uh, what is more important is not even what is said. and as said. and yesterday, maria zakharova , the official representative of the foreign ministry, was on our program and she spoke from johannesburg. i have known maria for about five years, encountering her

mainly on our tv programs. i 've never seen such a beaming, so pleased, but this could not be faked. a it was obvious what happened from her point of view, but also, accordingly, from the point of view of russian leadership, which she represents, that something very significant has happened, first of all. do you agree with this, and to the extent that you agree, what do you consider to be the most important thing that actually happened? well, you know, i absolutely agree with you. it is also my point of view that it is very difficult for us contemporaries. to understand the meaning of those events, especially the huge events, er, that we observe, as a rule, is still the result. it is visible after sometimes decades, and sometimes it is not at all what we think

when we ourselves participate in events, so i agree with this. and here. of course you can . uh, some errors and to the end accurately analysis is difficult to do. but what seems obvious to me, and here it follows. it seems to me from all of the stories and everything that happens that the time has come for the west. get off the podium. this is obvious to me. i'm just absolutely convinced of this, as if the lord said time, or is it already happening, as an objective process. i think this is happening. it's still hard to really grasp. we talk about it, but so to speak, the west retains its enormous power and economic military

intellectual power. the west is unconditionally united, but it seems to me that this is already a process that has begun and cannot be stopped. it seems to me that this is an objective process, which is impossible then the domination of the west and can be considered a 500-year-old domination. yes, probably this is how it comes to an end, as any domination actually comes to an end. that is, it is part of the historical process, part of the historical. processes and from this point of view, it seems to me and you have to look at what happened from burge to brix because never in the history of mankind. these are countries that were, in fact, really colonies. in fact, most of them were all colonies. it was like, they stood at the lowest rung in this social

hierarchy of states, they never declared themselves so definitely so clearly and and so uh, large-scale said how it happened and the assembly, therefore, in general, in my opinion. it is quite the events that lay claim to the role of such a revolutionary events. and if you remember just a short time ago predicted, at least in the united states, that it would be very difficult at the summit to agree on the admission of new members. what, uh, supposedly brazil had doubts, and india didn’t even have doubts about objections, and yet it was possible to agree and there were six new members unconditionally, and, uh , among them are countries such as saudi arabia , which are considered very friendly, er the united states, and on the other hand

adopted iran and washington of course there was hope that given that from their point of view. uh, iran is a state, but an outcast. so what, they won’t let such a good company in order not to upset, uh, they took and accepted the american comrades and that’s what putin said about this reception. uh, i'm under the impression that it's not just that they 're added, but that it's also part of a thoughtful process? let's hear who said vladimir putin i would like to congratulate our new members who will work on a full format scale. u next year and uh, i want to assure all colleagues that we will continue the business that we are with today you er started to expand the influence of brix in

the world. uh, i mean getting hands-on with the new members of the organization and those who will be working, uh, in the briggs area in uh. as an outreach to our partners, who in one way or another pay attention to cooperation with our organization and would like to work with us together. we treat it with attention. we have great respect and will certainly arrange this work, of course, in contact with all partners we will consult. how to organize this work during these joint discussions at the level of foreign ministers. other departments, we will build the appropriate regulations , so that the role and importance of brix in the world continues to grow, but this statement made an impression on me, because, well, you know, it often happens that some new countries are added to some organization , everyone is

satisfied with the music playing. but it's not exactly, and here's my impression of this admission of new members from being superfluous very seriously and uh. it is not necessary to be realistic, but organizations led by russia for fight against the collective west. this is not a club of friends of russia, and this is by no means a military-political bloc, and such a task was absolutely not set, but i have a feeling. that at least there is, uh, the firm expectation that these are not countries that will not join russia's enemies, that these are not countries that will impose unilateral sanctions, and that these are not countries that are willing to help washington and brussels in isolating russia, how else can explain that

the next summit, but will be held in russia in the twenty-fourth year and that the main, the host host of the summit will be vladimir putin , whom he is trying to demonize on a collective commandment , and for me, this is again just the beginning, but potentially the beginning of a very significant process, if you have the feeling that russia knows how to seize this opportunity. uh, well, returning to our thoughts with you that it is difficult for contemporaries, it is always very accurate. i think it shouldn't be exaggerated. it seems to me that everyone knows russia very well, because you can’t be like that, it’s so complicated, uh, and really big game, what is your program called, that you can't be

absolutely sure about all the next steps. and it's just impossible. and most importantly, it is not necessary, because the situation is changing all the time. can e develop can be slowed down and in this sense, i think that russia well, russia knows the main thing, it seems to me that what is very important at this meeting, yes. what's another motive? it seems to me that it is or is not a question of a military union yes, but in my opinion it is more and more obvious that we are talking about the fact that the financial dominance of the west, on which power is actually based today. the west is the financial system of the euroson dollar financial system, and which in many respects is still concentrated and in fact, it is the main one. actually the weapon of today's

west and the united states, of course. and uh, put an end to this. here it is. i have a feeling that it just shines through everything that happens and happened in brisk. at least, maybe not so clearly said, but i it seems that this is the main goal, because you know how that needle is koschey, right? you take and everything falls apart this process is very complex, all the more so all countries understand that this process must be carried out in such a way that they themselves do not collapse, since it is clear that the financial system of the west is so comprehensive that everything depends on it, hence the caution of these countries that are part of the brix in this sense, russia has entered into a direct conflict. she is much more independent. but i think this one the moment it is very important, and it seems to me that

this is what it is for. uh, india in general, quite definitely here present here in general, they noticed this, as i understand it, even in moscow, not completely. it seems to me that this is about the question of whether this is all. no, it seems to me that this was not fully foreseen. here in moscow, and well, it is obvious that india india is very active. uh, today is involved in this. i would say that there are three such pillars on which brix is ​​supported. russia is a people's republic of china, india in this sense. this hmm is such a positive outcome. well, for me , joining two such recent antagonists, absolutely lately they have been enemies. saudi arabia in general around

the world, including in russia and of course, in washington they lobbied against iran and now in saudi arabia. iran takes over at the same time, but we we talked to you, this again refers to this, that the west is dominating. the west is leaving it feels and strictly speaking, everyone starts to look for some approaches to create absolutely new, uh, system, and in this sense , saudi arabia and tehran, all the more so, these countries were not seen as particularly sentimental. so to speak, they are generally sufficient. it is uh, nevertheless. look, this is really a very important and absolutely impossible moment that could not have been imagined 10-15 years ago, in general it will be absolutely impossible , it was impossible, let's say, honestly, to imagine 5 years. back and most importantly a year and a half

ago today is the anniversary in this regard, the beginning uh, special operation. and that it will be possible to carry out this very difficult special operation, which has grown into a serious , almost global hybrid war, that it will be possible to combine this? with such progress in creating a new format, if you want new associations of states. in which neither the united states, nor american allies, nor europe in general is included, and that's what it turned out to be possible, and that, uh, not to be afraid of the revenge of the united states and its allies. and that at least some form, uh, agreed not denouncing russia this uh was not a meeting. and

the allies and supporters of russia's military ukraine, but this did not work out and was not expected, but it was a meeting of states that said. yes, we want this war to end as soon as possible, because it has both the potential for escalation and already serious negative economic consequences for our countries, but at the same time , we are by no means in russia and this war is not an obstacle not only for our joint work with russia but also for the development our economic relations. that's how he explains, uh, that all these countries emphasize in many ways a-and allied and the united states of such, how to say attitude to security, like saudi arabia as a dependent in this regard of the united

states why did they decide to go for something like this, but here i am i can only repeat. in my opinion, these are such decisions related to the fact that there is some kind of inner slightly, but, but they are also here we are discussing. yes , your excellent program says a lot about the fact that, and the west itself, when the brix evaluates says that this is a direct threat to the west, that is, they understand this. they understand what those processes are that are taking place. they understand that they are losing dominance. moreover, i think that they are the most far-sighted of them understand that this is an inevitable process. but if this is an inevitable process, the saudis, iranians and others understand this, and how would they look for new new forms , new ones, they join that force that can take place, because the force must somehow occupy this place, here in my sight. here it is now that

a configuration can lie down that can take the place of the departed. west it's not that the west will disappear somewhere or it's on this one, but , but there is still one such important point, uh , you say correctly that the european union, when it was conceived, no one imagined that it would become a military union , and i admit that this can also outgrow, therefore , i absolutely admit it. and i think that the logic of events, if the collective west is not formed, but the collective west seems to me does not form if it does not form soon. i think the logic of events, yes , will lead to the development of relations between the members of the brix and this will inevitably include military technical cooperation. yes, some joint maneuvers. so what is next. and then who everyone understands that it’s like there , like a disease this disease for us is howling war in

ukraine, of course, that this is a clash really civilizational, this is me , everyone understands this, everyone sees this, everyone sees that ukraine is here - this is just the field where it started it, by the way, unfortunately, it can continue in other fields, okay? it is impossible to create weightlessness in its entirety on the ground with no special effects. there is nothing here. all i saw was some shots of very acute situations. there are two different innovative industries up there. they are looking to the future. this project is a little anticipating the time that has conquered space. today, probably.

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the first tomorrow and always on one tv.ru. uh, on the battlefields in ukraine, there are uh areas where it is advancing. uh, the ukrainian army, there is an area where the russian army is advancing, and under all conditions, the vaunted ukrainian contour offensive is still on. it was not crowned with any notable success. and this despite the fact that nato stands behind ukraine, the united states and more than fifty states support ukraine, and every time russia is crushed, and ukrainian military equipment is another new western military deliveries of ukraine, moreover, more and more modern, including long-range

weapons. another obvious success of russia from my point of view on the battlefields of brix the lack of isolation of russia only from my point of view an undoubted success. you have quite rightly warned us on several occasions against the hack of denunciation. if you remember, from the very beginning of the special operation i spoke about this on our program, but on the other hand , you need to see a positive trend when it exists and feel satisfaction from successes when they really happen. right that for a certain part of the russian elite, these successes, these achievements, for some reason, are not obvious, and vice versa, this part of the elite has some kind of feeling

of alienation not even from the russian authorities, but more widely from their own country. i think yes you are right, i thought right. yes, but it's, unfortunately, listen, i'm looking at it. so this, unfortunately, here is one of here we have such a feature dostoevsky remember the suicide bombers character. well, he didn’t take him from heaven, who said that, as they say, when talked about russia's victory over napoleon . here is a stupid nation, won a smart nation. here are the words of death. well, what, they disappeared somewhere, this is present, this is present with us, this is even in my opinion. no no no no no not explained, only commercial interests there about the nobles, because it is present. this is the type. man

he is present in our midst. i'm on my mind. i always count 10 percent 10. that's quite a lot. that's quite a lot. you know that i lived in washington for many years and there is also a russian migration, but there are many other politically active immigrations. i'll give you, and an example of chinese. or an example of the iranian, they are very hostile to the authorities in their countries. none of them called for sweeping sanctions against their countries. and when conflicts arose, let's say between the united states of iran and iranian emigration, a, which included monarchists who would support hahaha and liberals,

they all tried to somehow tell washington that they should avoid steps that would strike at the population of iran create a conflict with iran and well, they had some feeling, but not only that this could be dangerous for the united states itself, but they had a feeling that they were ready to sharply criticize their government, because they absolutely do not want to go against their people russian immigration. she has traditionally not only recent migration, but has traditionally called on foreign countries. intervene, and i read about the affairs of russia. uh, memoirs, for example, of the former prime minister vladimir kokovtsev, which tells how he tried to get a loan for russia. and how

he was told by french leaders including, but full of squares of the prime minister then, and how russian migrants arrived, and how they walk widely around paris, uh, they say, don't give this country money. you can’t do this, uh, i’m exaggerating, or there is some feature of russian migration that i don’t fully understand, or maybe more generally of the russian intelligentsia . hmm yes, i think that you shouldn’t exaggerate, there is this feature. i agree with you. i agree with you. i mean, really, me too. in general, i traveled a lot i talked around the world and in america many times , and in different countries there really is a diaspora. sino-indian who may be very negative about their own

ruling class there, but they never oppose their countries against their peoples. they don't want to don't want them. so to speak, wars, for example, and sorry, we had it. well, what to say? no, we had people who were very famous famous people who directly called for a nuclear war against the soviet union, but now i, uh, i see them as emigrants. on their youtube channels, as they not only call for increased sanctions, as they not only call for the maximum arming of ukraine , but they have uh. well, if you like, the passionate smile on their faces when they report that, uh, ukrainian drones have struck somewhere, including on peaceful targets in

russia, you know, it amazes me. it strikes not only from a moral point of view in terms of, as it were, but of theirs, but of philosophy, as politicians, because if you want to do that, democracy. you can't do it by speaking openly against your people rejoice when your people feel bad and when your people are killed. but for some reason it doesn't bother them. well, you see, i say, in my opinion. this is much deeper. something. unfortunately, inherent in general. eh, this is some kind of our national misfortune, but it is present, it is present with us, it must be studied and best of all. i say for me. dostoevsky understood this best of all. take them from the karamazovs in the image of smerdyakov. it's

parasitic precision. amazingly accurate. moreover, mind you, the smerdikovy uk - in the karamazovs there is no material she has no interest, he is a nonentity, he is a nonentity, but with a big complex. because, if you remember, e udostoyevsky, he is not the natural son of his father. and here with god and some there, it means coastlines, that is , it seems to me, here somewhere here fyodor mikhailovich is not by chance, so to speak, ours in general. a light that surprisingly reveals our inner problems and our psychology and our self-consciousness. it seems to me that in this sense, something comes from this , you understand, this is even this is not even a question. i i repeat there the material ones, i know such people, i knew and know such people who hate everything russian, moreover. so you

can't do anything with them. it seems to me that this is some kind of element of inferiority that goes, e , k. e, if you want to the petrine period, when arose, e, the stratification of russia but for those who belonged to the west, yes, and for the bulk of the people. and uh, those who belonged to the field, relatively speaking, and who even at home preferred to speak french to them, this bastard people of theirs. they couldn't to identify with them, and since then some kind of tradition has arisen, if you want infringement and some kind of feeling that if you stay with your people against europe against the west, you are not only something very disadvantageous in this, but that something very humiliating. that's when i left the soviet

union, at least it was january 1973. at least, of course, well, the standard of living, and, of course, the level of convenience. and the whole infrastructure, but of course in the west it was a much accomplishment, but the koran i can now tell you with full frankness, full of confidence that life in moscow is much better than life in washington, that moscow is cleaner than parikh and her, of ​​course, if you want to go to good restaurants or get food delivered? all this in moscow at least not worse. and often better if you look at the quality of health care in moscow and washington, i think, maybe, except for some of the most complex operations that require some of the most super advanced equipment. well, moscow is not inferior

to anyone. i understand the difference between moscow and petersburg and most of russia, but after all , those people who have this feeling of inferiority, there is no infringement, just basically from moscow from st. petersburg. and what happens to the rest of the people, in my opinion, they are not madly worried, but nonetheless. here they have some feeling that if russia is not perceived with the west as its own organic part, then this is not only an economic problem for russia, but also a moral catastrophe. well, yes, i absolutely agree with you, but i say in my understanding this is something even deeper, because, frankly speaking, i met such people among the most and not among the intelligentsia. they happen and t - there are such, of course, but i can be, there

is another reason, which in general, in my opinion. in general, we never had a truly deep national education. here you see, here it is. somehow, we have always been very tolerant of this in russia . national education was perceived as some kind of primitive pumping up of pseudo by some kind of leavened patriot. this is this, this is this, i remember, i was, by the way, washington went to this, how is it? mm there is the same washington estate. yes , and well, in short, i went there, there are territories and suddenly i saw. uh, american schoolchildren. and they all lined up and started singing the american anthem. it was obvious that they all knew him. you see, but that means

they're being invested with it. no, they are absolutely trained to do this. we always have this feeling, some, as it were, you seem to be right, it seems to be leavened patriotism. i don't see in this sour feeling that it's in general, not not not not only not the majority, but it's a minor minority, not so yes yes yes, yes, yes. yes, of course, we said 10%, but i think 10%, this is how i figure it out. here's my own, maybe mine. i'm not a sociologist, so according to my life observations. i'm like this. there was a statement by president putin who conveyed his condolences to the families of the deceased, and relatives and friends, but at the same time explained the attitude of the russian authorities to what happened and to the need for

an objective investigation. let's listen. express words of sincerity condolences to all all the dead is always dear friends and ah. indeed, uh, if they were there, it seems that the primary data indicate that there were also employees of the vagner company, i would like to note that these are people who made a significant contribution to our common cause of combating the neo-nasist regime in ukraine, we remember this, we know and we won't forget. i have known prigogine for a very long time. early nineties it was a man of difficult fate and mistakes. he had serious in life, he achieved

the desired results. and for myself and when i asked about it for a common cause, as in these last months. he was a talented person , talented, a businessman, he worked, not only in our country and worked with results, but from abroad in africa, in particular , he dealt with oil, gas, and precious metals. he just returned from africa yesterday, as far as i know. he met with some officials here. but what exactly did he report to me about this this morning, and the head of the investigative committee, they had already begun preliminary investigation of this incident and, uh, it will be carried out in full and brought to an end. it's here no doubt. let's see what the investigators will say in

the near future, and now examinations and technical examinations and genetic examinations are being carried out, this will take some time. but in general, this statement, which is also called, speaks for itself. uh, let me add, we started our conversation with the fact that sometimes you can’t see face to face and, uh, when a person has just died, or most likely died. this is not the day when uh is appropriate to give some objective, but an assessment of his activities. this is the wrong moment. and it's probably not possible at all. i have no doubt that there will be many different speculations about how this happened. it is inevitable that in the collective west and among those circles of the radical russian opposition, about which we have just spoken, that they will immediately

find the guilty and the russian authorities are always guilty, but it seems to me that these are the points of view that what putin said is the only correct one . way to conduct an examination. conduct an investigation to entrust it to professionals, something else needs to be done. well, firstly, i think it is right that the president spoke, in general it is right, in principle, he could have kept silent about what, strictly speaking, is an investigation. this is what he delivered. this is in my opinion. this is correct the second point, of course, it is obvious that this is directed against. see who benefits from being directed against russia against putin personally unequivocally, the third moment curious that you see this coincides with brix i don’t know, somehow i don’t believe in such accidents and the fourth point, which is smoke, of course, a consequence of all this will be, but uh for those who are

about the russian government. listen, in my opinion, if the russian authorities needed it, firstly, the russian authorities could arrest mr. prigogine immediately after the rebellion, which is still a serious wartime crime, yes, and the second moment. well, why is this a thing? so publicly it could be done in africa, for example, or somewhere else, that is, it is absolutely obvious that such visibility of this incident, if it's still a terrorist attack. i wanted to, of course, that a tract cannot be ruled out under the given conditions, and we know who is carrying out terrorist attacks on russian territory, and we remember how zelensky himself admits this . they wanted to organize a provocation. uh, in ukraine they wanted to land a plane with people who wanted to fly with u to fight. they thought that they were going to one place, but they

were collected by ukraine just to be arrested. yes, and here it is obvious that there is a calculation for some kind of destabilization within russia , given all those who say minuses popularity, uh, prigozhinnoy and in general popularity, wagners and uh, in this sense, as they say, look for who benefits from it. well let's really. the president must correctly say the investigation will analyze from my point of view. we all uh, have uh our own these assumptions are built, and on our common understanding of the international situation. eh, our opinion, who is capable of what. and as you rightly said, who benefits from it, and not always. and what is most logical to the surface, and then when an investigation is carried out, it turns out to be true and therefore from my point of view. here's the last thing we

have to do. this is to start discussing, and various, uh, options and guessing on the coffee grounds. this is unfair, and not only in relation to russia, it is also unfair in relation to the memory of the dead, which should not be turned into a political weapon after their death. absolutely agree. karen , thank you so much for getting started. with that very, uh , positive and encouraging start to health. e finish and er, unfortunately for the rest. uh, but, unfortunately, this is the world today and let's say it's not completely what we wanted, but actually it could be much worse than you. thanks for your time and for your thoughts. thank you , we'll be back in just a few

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states there is a turbulent political events. yesterday there were debates of republican candidates. true, the leading republican candidate, former president donald trump did not take part in these debates, and today donald trump is also in a very interesting position, he is sent to a prison located in a city foundation in the city of atlanta, georgia uh, where uh he will u have to like them expressed and uh be, registered as a defendant. and moreover, uh, that's all, he is investigating previous acts of this kind in three

other places. more precisely, it follows even more including local in three places. criminal cases have already been opened against him there, but they still tried to treat him like a former president who has rights, but for some, if you don’t want to, privileges, but for some minimal tactful treatment, especially because that the election campaign has already begun in america and trump is not just a former president, but also the leader among any republican candidates in five days to be back in the white house, but in this black robbery, where blacks rule african radicals and american radicals. there, what they said, he will be treated, but like any other person involved in the criminal process, and he is being charged under

a law that was created in order to fight the mafia and has never been applied in the past in the context of a political struggle. it is already known that correspondents were sent to this prison. uh, before all these acts with trump, when he was registered as a defendant. they were quite private and were made. but if i may, so to put it with a certain restraint and dignity. and here we are clearly talking about organizing some kind of political show so that even if trump is not found guilty of anything, but what’s just to show him in such an unsightly light that it would be difficult for him to conduct an adequate political struggle to talk about this topic and about other american events. we are very pleased to welcome ekaterina moore, our regular contributor and business correspondent in the united states

catherine washington hello thank you very much for your time. tell me what is happening today with this so-called surrender. and what is it that threatens him at this stage today? hello, dimitri is also very glad to see you. well, look yesterday, there really was quite a bright political debate between the republicans and one of the bright uh such storylines was exactly what is happening now with donald trump and uh, what was surprising to me when i watched this debate and despite the fact that most of the candidates, and in some matters, and some of his very many issues do not agree with donald trump. the consensus was that, of course, the constitution above all mike pence did what he had to do. yes, yes,

vice president ah. under donald trump, he actually went into conflict with his leader, refused to certify, and these elections actually recognized victory, and joe biden. so even he said that i did not expect the situation on the sixth of january. uh, it'll get to the point where she's gotten to now and even if i become president , mike pence promised serious conflict with donald trump. i'm willing to consider pardoning donald trump, and it was the same with chris christie, yes. uh, many many uh, republican nominees have been talking about so-called vipinization, and the us department of justice and uh, now what we're seeing with georgia. this is quite obviously such an act of fire that takes place in relation.

donald trump, because, and in political science , this is called the rally effect, when a due to some bright event, uh, due to the fact that one side opposes the other. but there is an increase in the popularity of the candidate for the presidency. uh, the presidential nomination or the president himself and right here. e. the same story when donald trump, due to such a bright close-up, but starts to gain more and more points, and the democratic party, and the lion is radical, uh, elements instead of looking at the prospect and thinking about what what they are doing now they, on the contrary, continue so stubbornly. you know how they put pressure on the brake, yes, which does not work. it's just on my the look is such a fire, which in fact will not lead to anything, and here. such a story.

and even if a donald trump, uh, wins, yes, in these, uh, in these elections, or one of the republicans wins in these elections, then donald trump, in principle, will, well, get off with a slight fright, let's say, why in the ministry of justice does the us need it? well, i think that in order to somehow intimidate donald trump, but he is a person who is not afraid of anything, goes to the end. ekaterina, i didn’t understand one thing. you mentioned fire. eh, i think they going to set fire to donald trump and the republican party. and your own fire. they, in my opinion, do not suggest or how to see it. i see it this way, that they are trying , and trying with all their might to do everything to prevent donald trump before the elections, but public opinion polls, they say, are completely opposite

to any actions against donald trump by the ministry of justice on the contrary, they increase its popularity. and if we look at the latest ratings, now more than half of republicans are already, but ready vote. e for donald trump, that is , in fact, he has his nomination in his pocket. and we and we can also look at the nationwide ratings that are now saying that either joe biden or donald trump are coming. just nose to nose, or donald trump is ahead of joe biden. i mean , i just want to say that they certainly don't understand. what, what, what are they doing? and this is just right here. it is realized from the point of view of psychology, if we consider this kind of agony, yes, denial, when e is a person or a group of people go into shock and do not want to accept the fact that there is.