yes, yes, during the concert we performed somewhere in the sixth seventh number and it passed. well , not at all with a bang. not just over time. yes, it was not, the clip shot, somehow some time had to pass. well, they themselves, naturally, showed , by the way, organizational skills and broke through the whole thing that no one wanted to put on the air and it was all on the air. we just believed in this stuff liked it. and this is very important when the performer himself likes what he does, because it turns out i must say, before that. and i had this thought. i often tell the story that in london we met one interesting musician to the english cellists. here he is, as if directing me to this idea, so that here are some russian roots. uh, russian russian

melodicism such slavic was used in the best traditions. there, about coffee, you have a serial rachmaninoff and sergei trofimov had such material that we let through ourselves, so they gave, probably, that everything coincided with the sound. the handwriting of certain musicians who participated in the creation of this project, probably, at the beginning of the 2000s, people began to get tired of completely meaningless pop lyrics. and, probably, ripened for the song, it’s hard to say unequivocally that people started to get tired there. it's just that stream had to, just here it turned out just a separate material, which was recorded with high quality thanks to alexander kuzmichev. hmm, guitarist and arranger , the studio itself was very creative and interesting. ugh, no one knew. that's how much effort and money was spent to create this or that work. so many we did catch a fortune worked. just for

your pleasure. it is very important. e, sasha igor and who did you yourself listen to in 2001, the second third year. well, there, in fact, a large number of people, there was simply a very large volume of new interesting music. and even so , it’s difficult to single out names. or pop music is all a new wave and there was just such a revival. the new wave is obtained because that's experimental, when interesting musicians experimented with harmonies with melodies. the same in there is a group of police a lot of interesting things, nevertheless. doesn't matter this i mean that development and harmonic there. if you take the same citizens there with the one when nirvana appeared in the garnish itself, which is already in 2000, well , you understand, by and large, this period from the nineties, two thousand, the ninety -first shot with meat, in principle, i

mean that it has already been now the second third year straight it has poured out already. don't remember from the eighties. i've had a call all my life. never used. yes, of course, i still have it, this is a call. yes call and in the sense of the class? yes, she still has them there. it's worth it all. do you love my old woman love, sash do you love this kind of steward, like a person? alexandrovich or as a creator? no, well, first of all. well, here why exactly are the people there a big blanket wonderful, how to compare with it? why am i on whoopi golder at all? it's kind of like that, honestly. no, i don't accept it at all. there are no comparisons, how funny, even and sometimes even sad, when they say such a direction. it seems to me that every musician

is unique in his own way. but you like it. in any case. nobody is saying anything i always liked joe cocker, and in general i consider my aunts there, and roberta's plan is mine. she knows how much about it. you sent sms and all sorts of messages up there somewhere. she knows that there is such a singer alexander ivanov. well, there are many there, in fact, in different periods there were different performers who appeared with each musician. yes, and this is an influence. uh huh, allowed you to cultivate yourself, that's why the sixties were there. yes, and there with everyone start there from their dishes. jeans finish the beatles lingstones there some later margolan came there, tirex also had its time. uh-huh that was too. lots of hours of listening. there, among other things, bursting, damn it, where did it disappear, then van helen appeared with

their amazing shows. david simply influenced, in short, so not one went unnoticed, because if there is a conversation about, uh, who influenced, there those there are people who influenced us. it was also different jazz there, all kinds of swing there , people who did it twist everything, this is some kind of material that you passed through yourself and now you are one or another vocal technique, there are split-split ligaments, there is singing there, well, which meant not only there, just a clean hit on a note. uh, some interesting uh instrumentals. i would even say tricks when it was possible to portray some instruments with your voice. yes, yes,

there are all sorts of such splits in general since childhood, i was always talking when people were there with someone or talking. you have such a voice there, or perhaps such a voice. not to the people who write about it, or there compare themselves with a pseudonym someday take alexander or some mouth would be yes alexander ron yes yes alexander ronda no, and when we worked in the center behind the moscow music center stas banner, uh, then we have. well, there was a story related to the fact that stas helped a young talented team in promotion. back, probably, he recommended a pseudonym to come up with, well, there were some abbreviated alan, there were some alexander ivanov, but i always had a group of rhonda with my pseudonym, therefore, here is alexander from roll. yes, alexander rondo, so it didn’t

make sense for me to come up with some pseudonyms for myself there, which would correspond to my second self in life and one on stage and the other. well, somehow it suited me, and my name is late already, again, you know, it was too late then. in fact, this is all guys, i revealed to you the secret of a trifle, of course. you are such a trifle word, i thought about it. i listened and listened to this song again and again and thought about the word trifle, there is a jamb, there is a cool one. and we remade, by the way, the guys drank this song, god, what a belly or god there, what a jamb there really god or god the tsar keeps, as the guys often sang at concerts god the tsar. that's why , yes. we, as it were, are such guys with humor , relating to the fact that they somehow intensified, god, what a trifle to do, at least once something is not thrown out like that, rubbish from the house from

old friends has weakened. so there's actually room for creativity. yes, by the way, we have moved all the known options, so the platform. yes , anything is possible there. yes, the hit is always subject to all sorts of alterations. yes somehow yes, yes interpretation. barbie scored there, that's all, and the king is very respected. by the way, uh, we called the other day. he said he's been watching a podcast that he's been watching for 20 years. later. maybe you don’t know, but so just in case hmm there, i’m mikhailov’s bone and my father alexander mikhailov e. people's artist of russia - these are the men of snakes. e. this is love and blueberries, this surname is the same as ivanov, he says, who will you have? i'm talking with alexandra ivanov group, ronda send them your clip says this is generally a super song say hello

huge i really respect sasha as a person. we did not intersect so often, not so tightly, but now, by the way, i can try to dial him. and maybe he 'll tell you something himself, father. hi how are you? it's great. father, hello. this is your son kostya mikhailov. hello. this is sasha ivanov . sasha ivanov is telling you, hello. this is the maximum volume that my phone can give out. do you hear, right? hello dad, great, i listened to the song god, what a trifle? yes yes, yes it is a cool cool song melodic and very cool. made a very good clip. so we have an alliance with trofimov - it's just doubly wonderful, because i'm

from trofimov, he is a unique man. i like it. i give a simpler wish and god's forgiveness 8 and views from glunu to the east. oh what song? i still sing to everyone all over the world beautiful, as they say anton pavlovich chekhov , whoever does not carry the beautiful, he sins. here's a sin, less for us. thank you for your appreciation thank you for your son. and you are worthy be leading, well done i do not rash for you. and it is always expensive. thank you agreed. come on, hug, hug you. how energetic? yes, not a normal

80 vim, just a vim, listen, well, this is the magic of rock and roll. you don't know if you are old believers or sports? hos is not. zoshi in sports there, everything is always gone. well, come on, tell me. no, well, why am i not going to reveal all the secrets, of course, here, as if everything had its time and, of course, sports and creativity and love. yes, i just wanted to make all the young ladies of our country now i know how to do it. which one then is the person present now? beacon some kind of fire in front of the light my song to which i wanted to reach out, by the way, famous. to make all the girls popular right now has some goal ahead of us, say, if we meet in this cube in another 20

years. where do you see yourself, what would you like? that's just honestly just the truth, because this cop grants a wish. the main thing is that in 20 years we remember who at all, we were a joke. yes, we will remember that we are going, that we came here understandably, but god forbid, i did not visit. well, you know everyone here is everyone to your age. today i came up with some of my experiments. and uh, everyone probably already has a certain set now. yes, everything that corresponds to his age. and that's why it's important to somehow stay healthy. i think the most important thing is to have the energy to work, and this or that big concert. and believe that there are 2-3 hours. this is such a serious work, so that it will endure and that all this is worthy, therefore sleep is very important, proper nutrition is very important, and the road

is very important. if, for example, you used to be there could spend the night anywhere. well, now it is important that there is some kind of comfort, so during the flight of the move, a good pensioner's conversation. yes? yes, yes, yes alexander ivanov 's artistic director of the rondo group and music director, yes of the documentary ensemble group igor zhirnov is visiting today 's podcast 20 years later and our conversation was wonderful. though it was a trifle, but my god, what a beautiful trifle? let's listen to this hmm i

see the sky is quiet in it. i rise to the sky barely breathing. i suddenly realized this is my soul it's a strange thing - this is my strangle not with my head, when it seems like that, you can get the stars. god, what a way the girl will not be afraid of the old ones to name friends all of you are waiting for the family

to replace without being afraid of the little things of payment, damn it, only the sky above your head is free. like an old man, i'm running after you, vietnam already come to memory, the sky, if not a real prize.

one day it will not become easy, it is important and peace is far from me. i became just a cloud of dad, god i'm your way to do. just throw something wrong, we know. we call friends all of you, but to change something seriously, not being afraid to lose my darlings freely only the sky above my head god what to do

something glory and old friends of all of you to sleep, but something seriously from me dare the devil freely only the sky above my head and yours. hello, my name is dmitry bag. i am the host of a literary podcast

called let them not talk, let them read, and i talk with my wonderful interlocutors about this sweet wonderful process, because reading allows us to live another life reading books. we observe landscapes, we see pictures of the past. we penetrate the secret of strong characters. we meet wonderful people. in a word, read. it's fashionable cool wonderful. it is absolutely not an outdated way of life. this is life itself, so today we will uh talk wonderful. uh, our guest is the famous prose writer sergei sherlock sergei hello i am glad to welcome dmitry , this is a little bit. limonave uh, the figure of a complex controversial literature

book this book is from different conversations with very different people uh, in life they could just not be on friendly terms. although all of them are connected in one way or another by a common past and e at about the same time. they came to literature and still went alone, that is, corks not only of lemons. this is not only limonov and not only yuri vitalyevich mamleev, but it is also valentina yuryevich putin and evgeny san fushenko and fazil was from kander. this is andrey georgievich bitov and many many others, but and and hmm for me, of course, it is precious that i managed to communicate with these people and look at them in my own way. well , if we talk about the same eduard limonov, well, at one time it was known that i made all the money with the debut award, well, for a lawyer. in general, m-m, i was lucky to communicate with him. and for me it is,

of course, uh, a very bright free artist first of all. yes, for me, too, this is actually in a sense the next razumovsky line in literature. because its reduced to something square and flat impossible, then the difference is still that rozanov was doing this. zana was a mysmatic and a cab driver, but this is no less, after all, he was also a practical life. yes on the air, yes, and broadcast it in his prose. hmm , i must say that i am preparing a new edition for the release. there is no unknown new book damanov, before his death rose or poetry, he wrote a collection of poems. these are the verses of a dying man, in general, the bitterness of

defeat is the strongest of all, and in a sense, he even exploited this technique. uh, when from the personal sphere of betrayal the betrayal of the departed wife, selling comrades, and it turned into excellent literature. after all, uh, such a constant diary is a loser, and he could achieve a lot of semi-official social benefits, but unlike many who, he imagines himself to be followers of successors. i would say i do not, but someone does not test this. he was absolutely not conjuncture, and he is devoid of conformism. wow, that's a complex figure. it is terrible for our literature. so the book is excellent, because he is a wonderful poet, and i hope that this book is not known in the last poems of limonov, fully assembled them just like a collection. uh, coming out soon. well, what are we waiting for the book? well, let's talk. now about one of your main books - this is

a book. here in my hands is one of her editions. this is a book called kataev the pursuit of eternal spring by valentina petrovich kataev. how easy is it to guess the titles? what is the mystical connection with the hero? after all, the author can't just write someone's biography, maybe because he is uh hmm associated with youth magazine like you or not only this connection continues. yep, because that i became the editor-in-chief of youth after writing this book. maybe this, as it were, was the reason for the youth magazine to come. well, he shook my hand in a dream, and then they called me from there and they say, listen, come on, you had already written a book by that time, yes, that is, it was such a gratitude , i take it that way, well , wonderful, what a figure to say that for me this is a wonderfully excellent stylist. uh, just e, a wonderful writer, and in literature, for me, artistic, this is the most important thing, and i just enjoy reading kataeva and apart from everything else. i

wanted to unravel, or at least try to somehow comprehend his sharp plot life . hmm, he was both red and white, he was almost shot in the basement of the odessa cheka on the other hand, the offspring hangs. this is a whole story for the development of literature. gave way to the ever young without him there wouldn't be as many names in literature as there were, and i want to say that this book continues because new amazing documents are coming up. i think there will be a fourth edition because revealed, for example, interrogation protocols. e, and it turned out that the same time when he was sitting. here, i am waiting for the execution , his friend eduard bagritsky poet was arrested, to whom kataev then, in general, gave. a ticket to literature, that is, he dragged him to moscow and began to drive through magazines and made him a famous poet. well, in general, there are a lot of important interesting things

that are not here, but key circumstances, and in this book, too, i felt like a hmm little thing. uh, just investigating. and there are a lot of uh unique letters here. and lesha mendelstam, uh, and a lot others. uh, there yevgeny petrov, brother at the kataev institute, this topic continues kataev is an excellent writer. and for me this is the main thing, but it is also a person. e, who gave life, by the way, to the generation of young twenty-year-olds who then came in their youth, and here. i want to trust his daughter evgeny, the same little girl from the flower with seven flowers, who says that dad would be happy with the life of today. youth was already ukataeva. later in life. here is the current

youth you also started talking about it. you are the editor-in-chief of a youth magazine, and that in itself it is very cool that the magazine exists, because not all magazines have survived. this is our sadness. this is our sadness. the speed of literature. this is a pain, but in fact , everything must be done to ensure that this truly national treasure lives on. uh-huh and actually, through that writers association that i head, i began to do a lot in order to somehow support the leading fat people, so because this is really an instance of taste. this is a combination of very different wonderful genres, and nowhere else. how exactly inside tolstoy magazine. and it's not archaic. this is an opportunity to publish and speak for good authors of various generations of unknowns. uh, maybe oleg grigor, chukhontsev or kushnar, who for 80 will write

several poems, and they come to the magazine, but in the world in the banner and very young . and oleg grigoryevich, too, these are our wonderfully young authors who are now thinking where they should go there with a story with a literary-critical text. right now there is a wonderful critic from the city of kamyshin , volgograd region, ivan rodion ivan rodionov is a regular contributor to the magazine youth man, cleverly and subtly brilliant interprets modern literature, already where you live is less important, yes, because everything is immediately available on the internet. yes , youth gives its space to the writers of the mind. we have a lot of famous writers who have been published, but at the same time it is very important that the lion's share is a writer. this is a new generation of twenty-year-old regions, which is very important, and i am glad that many very noticeable interesting ones have actually appeared. uh, original brand new writers. well, i

just read ekaterina manoilo. mm great. uh, vera bogdanova in my opinion. interestingly, very much already known in recent years. yes, this fame arises very quickly and rapidly from the debut. i do not think that it spoils the authors, as a rule. on the contrary, it gives some impetus to continue, if this is an example for others, who wants to write, uh, who has such a need, start trying yourself no, restrictions. no obstacles, please, it's very cool. and it seems that the creative spirit is something that is extremely important in society. well, the society and the society of the nation of ethnic groups, as you like, so that there is this, uh, creative environment, that's right. e, of course, there is no doubt, but in thick magazines - this is the authority that is over. eh, well, for a century and a half, maybe even more was the main one. raskhoteratura, because the book followed

the magazine, the person who wanted to take place in literature always followed the magazine. yes, whether it be dostoevsky or goncharov with his first novels about this speech, this continues and it is important for me, for example, that i wrote the whole story of e before, for example, the collection came out. i give stories to thick magazines. well, you mentioned the association. e writer publishers who would head and hmm here again. ah, skepticism. that’s what the idea was, after all, how not to unify, but to support the very forces. the fact is that after the collapse of the union of soviet writers , several organizations were formed, but after 30 years, tearing all sorts of squabbles mountains of directions, an understanding arose of what is what something very important that you can described as general departments, because you need to support older writers

in need, you need to support young writers in general, you need to help writers. as a result, it was possible to create a certain superstructure. uh, each writer's organization that entered remains independently, all the largest writers' organizations have already entered the next writer of the ussr and in. the creative council of the association included, er, wonderful writers who do not fully identify themselves with any of the unions. this also needs to be understood, it's great, because it's not bureaucratic, but a living thing and a real writer in a certain sense, a loner and we have, uh, writers of different generational worldviews. but there is something that manages to be done for them - these are trips of writers around the country throughout russia - these are workshops for writers. this is a creative residence. that is the lady of yours when a writer can say, here i

would like to live here, breathe this far eastern air there, take a walk to write. and this is support for thick magazines. this is support for national literature and translations. and now here we will have trips writers at book fairs in the cis, which is also very important and great. in general, it is important, dialogue culture is very important to set up and establish this communication. well, the children's center, by the way, speaking, korolev's artery was called what happens in literature, yes, and well, and, of course , i would like to say separately, that is, the center is the center of aspir, the association of writers of russia is the house of growths, the legendary house of growths, uh, in moscow , the streets, where she was outside literally every day. uh, all sorts of literary meetings are held openly and freely for everyone, and all this i think. it can be a noble task.

well, here we are, our dear, tv viewers went through such a very wide circle, because sergey shagunov was a guest, no one will be talking about sergey shergunov. we also talked about how a writer can and should write about personal will , about what he perceives e in his creative seclusion, and ended with a conversation about a writer who organizes e, the literary process does. uh, everything is a lot for others, this is, uh, sergey shergunov, and i thank you with great pleasure sergei alexandrovich for this conversation and i am sure that we will meet with you more than once. thank you very much for everything because of your support. so our dear viewers. it was a literary podcast. uh, dmitry baka podcast is called. let them not speak. let them read today's issue. we spoke with the wonderful writer

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