it was visible. well, he came this last time we saw each other, yes, but he we loved him very much, of course, and in general some big person in my life is such a beginning of life. yes, with such a teacher, right? how much humor was there? how many jokes? it is impossible that the clothes are fools, all these feklists braids-krusniki, but these are separate people, as we had a rehearsal. she is in the theater to you hut. well, they were very students. for some reason, we wanted to rehearse for you on tverskoy , which is a big hut, which is now kekhnovskiy named after gorky, who also had cars there, but he is also fashionable, for example, if anything, he is driving a car. then, in general , the car was distributing and talking, and here this zhiguli was standing near the theater in the parking lot. and now the car was in winter and these fools, it means, started talking and rolled his car away, just rolled it away and hid it. in general

, for some reason, everyone thought that he would be very happy and laugh, as if their jokes, but he was like that at all. i remember getting angry, upset, well, i was walking along the track, i was looking for his car, which means they returned, but it is standing there. well, idiots remember that andrey very very somehow didn’t understand this humor. and what was his reaction cursing? i swore at them very much, yes, this humor does not work, no. well, there were a lot of funny things. he, of course, incredible humor in an incredible person. until now, somehow all the time you appreciate in people. if there is, humor, excellent, you know, a normal person, he never portrayed himself, did not try to please and always he had some readiness. and here is such a collection. you know he almost died. we are during filming. yes there, yes, this is a terrible story of power. uh-huh the episode when he is sailing on a swallow on a boat, and he is very close. i just don't know the name. uh, that

's what a propeller is. damn it, and it's very close to it to that propeller on the flu boat and it's sucked. it was terrible. it was scary, because when the glasses and the hairpiece floated to the surface. andrey vasilyevich is gone. empty boat everyone understood what? what has gone through andrei vasilyevich is generally incomprehensible, but there was no hysteria, nothing, well, thank god that he is alive. for example, i can hardly imagine another actor in his place who would have had such a reaction, because everyone was afraid to describe what kind of responsibility the directors are. it's scary, well, this once again speaks of the dignity of the human self to some kind of internal culture. well , i want many to have him just a stone

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a credit savings card for 120 days without interest the most profitable in the country. i remind you and i am visiting. maria brusnikina. i still think about the cruelty of the profession all the time. so andrey vasilyevich of the neighbors decided to shut themselves off from the world, their right, and these ubiquitous paparazzi, who in recent years have been tracking them somewhere anyway, they were filming a not very healthy asya, sad like that, and andrey vasilyevich how much heat it was, here she was holding her hand all the time all the time. well, yes, well, here i am, you started this topic with internal culture, there really

aren’t many such people. and you, when faced you continue to measure yourself and these people. yes, we are all thinner people incredibly , emotional explosive temperamental, but the artists are yes, and as if at the moment when all of a sudden something like this happens to you. i very often actually remember this school of andrey vasilyevich , this is restraint. and this is very rare. well, yes, it's an internal culture. it's like respect respect for a person for people who are nearby, yes, and in themselves to themselves. as once i sasha-effects. and sasha, too. we have a perfectly perfect classmate. he somehow for me has always been the measure. he was so good at putting me in my place. i am such a temperamental person. i remember once i told how that's my opinion and an older friend. he speaks to me so calmly. and you are sure that you are always right, and somehow i remember this for the rest of my life, or there, what is intelligence, here. he said, well, you know, you're driving in a car. skip the other one and it's that easy too. and with andre vasilyevich it

was yes, respect for another or for himself. although it is clear that, probably, there was a sense of their significance and their talent. yes but you it is respect for others. he is serious about the profession. that's what he invested, of course, in us. and you know, he had some kind of compassion. and uh, hmm, in general , an understanding of the situation and one cannot say, well , he felt sorry for me, but there were situations when eldar alexandrovich was not very to me. uh, well, it was a cruel brutal romance. yes, he was cruel to the stones, and andrei vasilyevich, he saw what i had. well, i started like a string. and it didn't help my work. on the contrary, i was closing, that is, someone needs a kick, and he goes and plays great. i need to love and praise then and say no, no, i 'll do it to you now. better. oh, thank you very much, i’ll go and do it if i say, yes, i don’t like it, well, everything else, that is, i can’t , and andrei vasilyevich understood this, and somehow he

began to help me like that, he began to close me like that. it's me now, i understand it now, but then it seemed to me, well , yes, well, since mothers. helps me too. that is, then he took it all for granted, and why is there no old man there, 42, where are the old ones? well, anyway, he was already well, there was something else, uncle. uh-huh, but on the other hand, you vibrate so much in this film because of this fact, that from this tension, apparently, due to the fact that just clearly recently, i also got into it. it's just that such a person, vibrating turned out to be larisa oh, thank you. that is why andrey vasilyevich , of course, happiness, that here i am, and gratitude to him that he was in my fate. i don't care. these people form anyway, just like you. well, you had him and taught for 4 years, huh? you worked for six months and over the years you understand the significance? yes, this presence

of course, a very bright bright star, and then no, well, in the theater, then we worked together for a long time and played together in the seagull and also like that. yes, of course, and he introduced me to chaika, that is, we came, and you always called him andrey vasilyevich and you i also called him for you, but andrey, i decided so myself, i think i’m an artist and i’ll be like that on you but i i called everyone to you, but by name. no, i, too, as a rule, everyone is on you. but andrey vasilyevich is not here and he introduced, roma lena mayorova , the three of us we were taken to chaika there before. here played vertinskaya hmm katya vasilyeva masha i have lena for masha for nina roma for andrei vasilyevich and andrey vasilyevich introduced us. and i also remember how he is, how he does it wonderfully, moreover, as you always do. there are solid stars. there is someone there , it’s understandable, there is stronger there. uh, savina around. yes, there lavrova didn’t go to their rehearsal either, which means that he gently arranged everything for everyone, and then, when we already

saw these on the run-through on the stage, everyone was surprised, innocent, very surprised, as if there were something like three new performers , that is , for all the game forgings we all have something like this and also so he's right perfectly level, but not below. and you know what surprises me all the time. that's why, for example, ali kenkovsky here at the mention of an alligen. here he is a star. andrey vasilievich is a brilliant artist, but one cannot say about him like oleg ivanovich yankovsky and zvezda, and not because he did not go to the festival, but not because he was not a public person there. they never talked about him, and they never gossiped or slandered. well, i don't know, but on the other hand. you understand that's all equals a person. here he spat into eternity. here he starred defending himself, which they say he did not like. and now i was very worried about him, which is shown every year, but did not love him later. yes, he starred there serves on the novel, he starred in irony of fate. well, the whole country knows this man, well, until now everyone will know, and it will always be a star. yes, that

is also how to manage. hmm, it’s clear there that he had a lot of films, but these two and well, it’s clear that ra cruel romance and everyone will always know, that is the story is that eldar alexandrovich himself wrote poetry for the song. and yes, on his films and hid official poems in the novel. yes, he is. in general , vasilyevich is three, but with words like, like you and andrey, everything really didn’t like it. kalnul not very much. eldora aleksandrovich got angry and offended, and in the next film, in the garage, he gave him a wordless role. yes, he took revenge like that, and then he sang this song andrey vasilievich i remember how i’ll throw out a panorama or somewhere he sang this song. he sang beautifully, i had a wonderful ear. he never sang personal office romance. eldar savicheva didn't trust him to sing, but in general he was amazing in this sense. here, for example, he never read the elements aloud, yes, and he thought that it was so much and i remember it, it’s very

good that it’s so personal in general, everything that concerns poetry is so much and what you experience while reading. it's that, it's so personal that it doesn't need to be transplanted anywhere. here. i just remembered it despite the fact that the amount of my knowledge there is about the love of poetry. not in person, not in public. sing no, relative. interestingly, yes, the father is also included in the acting profession. this is something so personal. yes, but he rarely allowed himself to read the elements or drink something. yes, how amazing is some beautiful life of 85 years. there were no such rumors, no gossip , no dirt, and no housekeeping, there was no broken fate, for example. here, he could play alyosha karamazov there until the age of 30. well, there are a couple more roles there, and he would also be remembered. we would sit there remembering everything, well, he lived such a very beautiful wise meaningful life. yeah, that's what i was thinking too, just like that. oh, to leave and

always command respect throughout life, look. and how i fell in love in my first year. yes, asya came, and he saw her and realized that she was his woman for life, everything is beautiful in his life. it turns out, and she answered him in return, she also considered something like that in him. yes, i saw it for me. this is just a sample. here is the couple. well, now on the troekurovsky grave next to dim brusnikin. not far away, andrey vasilyevna duck everything, that is, she survived andrei vasilievich for a long time, i don’t remember, it’s just that they looked after her, of course, there, but the fund artist is absolutely wonderful. yes, this organization and they connected, and the director of the fondarte has olga, she helped a lot, because even there it was quite difficult that she didn’t accept about herself, no matter how the nurses were not all at once, then she got used to some woman , which

helped him wonderfully and there were always doctors there, and that's it, that is, here is a fantasist, just a huge andrey vasilyevich, he did not need. and here he is left, that is, everything was enough there. you have already been in russia and leaving. and then , somehow, she was left alone. and yes, but she didn’t let her in too, that is. you couldn't come, she wouldn't let you, by the way, the only thing that could be done? it's here through science fiction organize. that's all help. eh, as if care and concern, and they did it all and a big thank you to them. it's great that there is a continuation in his students, you have, uh, a brilliant course, and you are somehow special, but all those who have been listed. here they are yes some charge in us and efremov and myagkov and borisna. well, yes, this charge we have, apparently, is powerful, it's true. well, you are in general, yes. at the age of 17, you don’t understand anything, you get hands on someone. yes, there , well, of course, efremov never took the course, you have to go to efremov, because here is efremov , but you can easily go there. yes, he is dead. i will never

forget how the association of fate. we were a sister, and the house of winter rest was some kind of camp site. and when i remember, i leave this room. and it was just empty everywhere on the streets. there was just no one in the dining room went. there was a tv in the dining room. the foyet means that the hostel is wooden and the people were hanging, not like on the chandelier. the entire staircase was crammed with everything, where only everyone could sit. leaning against this tv , snow was still falling right outside the window. nobody went to the empty dining room, because everyone was watching the irony of fate and understandably. it was, of course, like when you see the selection committee, myagkov. you can , oh, somehow, but you don’t undertake what kind of people you get. and who shapes you further 18 years old, could be formed step by step formed us. here are such serious people . mary, here is what is for you, like our father. here you are, for example, but do not allow yourself something, of course. it is outwardly in e. restraint modesty and respect for other people, a serious attitude to the profession. and that's all . that's probably the main thing, but i remind you that

this is a podcast of letters, and i have a distinguished artist as a guest. marina maria brusnikina. thank you thank you very much. hello this is a podcast of the psyche, where i am a journalist natalya loseva and a clinical psychologist, candidate of psychological sciences mikhail horses are trying to decompose the most difficult solitaire situations in life, our current situation is unusual in that the request came from the spouse alexander hello. hello, you have arrived. hello, yes with your family problem your wife. anna is afraid of all modes of transport, she is afraid of speed, and as i understand it, anh, it has already begun to cause great discomfort, great inconvenience, this is

a distinction for your life for your life there. tell me, please, natalia mikhailov please help. in fact, she is afraid of speed, comes to tantrums, comes to tears of speed, which is 120 km / h 150, she is even sometimes afraid of the sound of the car’s engine that it doesn’t start driving, the sound of the current starts to increase there, and he already starts to get hysterical, since the steering wheel is not enough, but it happens touches there. and what does it look like? ah, all the fear, the leaked heartbeat, tears, panic, hands are shaking and it’s impossible to cope with this, it’s even impossible to be distracted by something. and i understood from what alexander told us when he asked for help. this is a great fellow husband who is so here is the responsibility in this situation. it's great that it all started out of the blue. yes, tell me that there was a situation with accidents. and yes, i had situations when by car in the fall, it was a slippery road, a slippery, country road, and

we were driving with friends. and it so happened that they were making fun of the girls trying to scare them, and in the end we crashed from behind the fence while driving, i was not sitting in the middle behind and just at the moment. i only had time to put my hands forward, because i was and did not fastened, and i had hmm, it hurt my hands to take me out of the car. i'm watching everything survived. yes, now they are scared. ah, well, hurt my finger a little because i was cleaning. uh, in the front seat and they took me out of the car. and i just look at the lantern, and it floats me. that is, i had some kind of fear so sharply, i either started to lose consciousness, well, they streamed at all, right? 18-17 years old, maybe something else

happened right away, yes, then in the same month i went to the shopping center by bus, i already started to get out, that is, she stood up to the handrail and in front of me the picture of the windshield is that the car abruptly turns in front of the bus and the emergency bus slows down on board. how to say stop? uh-huh and i, too, already came out on shaky legs. uh, i called my friends who were waiting for me - said, meet me. help. i can't go. i'm scared. well, that is, too, there were no casualties. yes, the accident is not not very scary, but it impressed you. and then what were the planes, mom in childhood. i was told all the time, anya planes are scary it's scary to fly hmm well, mom, that is, there was an aero yes, but at the same time she never flew. that is , she had it then she got a job at which she flew on a business trip and work is connected with and normally. yes, and already

such anh yes, that you're all right? okay, i got over that fear of airplanes. she watched commercials that help. e with aerophobia. and in principle, two or three trips everything went fine. until one case, when the plane e we went to the runways, we began to pick up speed and already at high speed. the plane starts to slow down. i already have hysterical panic trembling hands, we arrived at the parking lot. and that he landed the plane in the end, or he even slowed down naturally and did not take off. he was just retarded, one was hysterical, but for the first time it seems to me, yes, i looked at everyone like that. they sat as if yes, everything is fine. we arrived at the stoyanka and waited for about an hour, they said that the plane

was repaired, we can take off, it’s already scary for me, because it happened there that we braked so urgently, and now again in as a result, we again enter the accelerating lane, we begin to accelerate. it's time to take off the speed even more and again braking and this time such braking that everyone starts to scream, everyone already has tantrums, like in a horror movie, disaster films, we were sent to the airport to wait. and then i called my husband and said, i won’t fly, i’ll die, because they will put us on the same plane, it will somehow be repaired again. and also you are not yet. i called directly, said goodbye to his mother, my mother also reassured me, my husband reassured me. i am everything anyway, i couldn't help flying then well, how else am i ? and that is, it was you, you were not at home. it was you who had to return home to turkey

, returned, just the same, everything ended well. and yes, in the end, everything is fine when the kids episode is completely clear. i think that i would, that's what i like to fly. i 'm not an airport at all. that's absolutely. well, in this situation, i would behave in exactly the same way, as if, of course, i would be worried, because this happens twice and something else is being repaired, that is, in fact, well, a normal situation. and now, so you and your husband can't even drive. yes, because it is possible to eat with me in the car. it is very important. yes, say it again, out loud. anna can eat she can eat, right? so by car, but it's every time uh opinion. m-m her here are these tantrums. there, some moments give emergency situations there, because it distracts me from birth. even moments of rebuilding do not save the full sitting next to you. yes, and not in the back seat, yes, yes, but that's why anna distracts you from you. yes, it's kind of a quick finale. why? i said it

important? yes, because the bathroom, uh, has a certain disorder, yes. or a personality deformation. they will say the word sickness associated with panic attacks tied to certain triggers. and you treat the horse like a healthy person who is just fooling around. well, yes, i understand that, i came to you to understand how i should behave in these situations in this way. well, let me ask you a question about how to deal with a person who has the flu. he has a temperature of 38, he lies all over coughing. and you tell them hey friend, let's go skiing, let's go with you? to the person who got the flu no, but i've tried in many different ways there, like it in the moment. there are fears to overcome. it explained what i was doing now. what is the situation on the road now happening there alexander wait , michael gave you a very understandable example. yes? let's continue his example read lies with

a temperature of 38 with the flu, what does this person need? why does she want this person, but to explain that nothing bad is happening, and you have a temperature, but this is actually we need to open an article in the room, which means some kind of physiology there, yes, and see what temperature is. why such a reaction of the body, it means now to read a lecture. so what's going on with the flu, you can still have different strains of the flu and say it, and now get up. i 've explained everything to you. get up let's go. come on, come on, come on skiing there are good ones. well, once again , i understand you, but the first step is to treat a relative. yes it is to admit that there is it. well, okay, let's call a disease a disease. here, it's just not a problem. uh huh something to hurt it is possible, but if a person has become ill as a result of several traumatic events in his life, then it is also important for him to give time to recover or recover, more precisely, because some diseases. they sort of

get better, and then there's a rollback, then, uh, another rollback. yes, so once again the first important step for you, of course, and for you. yes, there is a feature in the bathroom. let's replace the word disease with that. yes, once again we are not a medical transmission there is a feature. this feature is important to accept that it is. i have the feeling that both of you. you know how i don't know, well, some kind of person. well, half a leg was cut off there, and he’s like that, and i have to run cross-country skis, as if everything is in order there is no person with a disability with a physical feature can run cross-country skis, however, something needs to be adapted there there, he can, but he definitely won’t run. just as you would run if your leg was healthy, so it 's the same in your situation. do not expect yourself to snap your finger and sit down and you will sit down means back. there you will have less chance

interfere. let's buckle up and talk about it. that's all you don't want anya to sit in the back. let's just talk about the fact that she is fastened. it is fastened always always attracted and behind. wherever she always fastens. if it's something that doesn't buckle up, she'll move to where it buckles on. well, she sits, and because of these , in front and on the bus and behind and on the train, when she sits on the train on the rails that she rides. clearly behind. you are even on the train in the subway behind, because you are afraid. we 'll get started now. i mean, that's what she says i can get behind the wheel. no, it's not enough for me behind the wheel. maybe touch it there? well, it’s not that i ’m not there yet, but the tip of the type is like, yes, it ’s understandable, it doesn’t serve well there, then it happens that the dotranet is just bad. no, that's not bad. why were they talking about it now? what is it that you would like to correct in the beginning about it said hmm that she makes an emergency dangerous situation jurisprudence

danger, that she distracts me there, when i say a change of lanes occurs you need to accelerate. i need to speed up. that is, i i understand, i fixed it there for myself. what is the distance there to in front of me, the car driving away from me, starting to look already as the stream that arrives, i start to overtake, respectively, i control the distance there. and when you get close. and i see that the car will come closer. we are cutting sash now. i always get distracted. eh, and did not control this flow. clearly they wrote. as they say, they understand, right? well, once again, if a person is sitting in the back and he is fastened, and we expect this from him. the likelihood of any emergency hazards is reduced. i'm not saying that it should end there. i say that it is when we expect such events like this. yes, this is to accept that a person is like that. now, he's not another unhealthy, not scared restless. it means that in this situation

he will show anxiety. if we are ready for it. it is much easier for us to bear these manifestations once. second, if we think that these manifestations are very bad, it will be more difficult for us to endure them. and here guys, tell me, please, what is going on. yes these panic attacks are bad. it interferes badly. yes? why does that mean because everyone gets nervous about me because of my reaction. we can't , now everyone is starting to get nervous because of me. well, look, you have your problem. she lies on you, as if crushing with a brick. and you, from above, most likely, piled on yourself a sense of guilt for the fact that everyone is nervous because of me, and this feeling of guilt amplifies your problem here, because you are already getting into the car. now everyone is going to

get nervous. all because of me. i don't give everything live normally. you begin to twist the nervous system. she's already stressed out. then the trigger surge happens. here's one. if you work with this feeling of guilt. i will now tell you how to lower it. and, maybe, if you remove it altogether, it can also happen, then, getting into the car, you will be calmer and then you will have more chances to control, but at least your behavior is your state. well, wait, well, we are now talking to you only for some reason about the car. tell me about the subway. still, there are areas subway or is it just a long-distance train, when the train accelerates strongly and i don’t know any bump, the turn signal seems to be already very large and the speed starts to stagger. i can feel it right here, and i 'm getting scared. and suddenly go off the rails, something else. eh, even there. here is a subway section, it is a red line at the bottom, when the train

accelerates and it starts to wind strongly in different directions and i don’t like to go there , i’ll do everything so that there are no people you know alive there in the fire. yes there before who feel guilty, that's right. that is, you should not worry at all there that you are causing inconvenience to some people, it seems, as it should not. and maybe then and worries yes sometimes. or maybe it’s not the inconvenience that worries me, but the fact that i’m going crazy now, and how they look at me, how they think that i’m somehow wrong there, maybe that worries me. but once again, guilt is the top floor. there the problem itself is not separate, we are working. yes, but with this downstairs, the pressure is on us. yes, you can work only if we remove the top brick, well , i feel guilty. it seems to me that i only have it in front of sasha precisely because i sit down and think, how can i hide my problem a little bit and drive quietly, and he will be calm

and i won’t try. if we help you work it out. you will say that this is the result of our meeting, of course, yes, if it tells me, it's easy, well, just a little bit of some sort of overnight stay, when the groups just started to travel together there. and i'm on it there, these bursts there, well. ostensibly did not notice them, well reacted normally. well, be quiet, then it will go there to adjust. then, when i understood what i had done, these moments of requests, so to speak. i will get up even more there during situations of some kind. if i act, there, at her request , there is no way they will start there quickly there, so i won’t be able to keep up with traffic situations there. i started with a slightly firmer voice of argument, where i tell you what's going on. why am i doing this, then these so let's say foreplay chose and just shouted. well screaming you

will see because you had some kind of emotion. she kind of unfastened you and made you scream. no, i just remember there, the previous experience of such situations is that these hmm explanations are explanations, there are long explanations that lead to nothing, and then, well, i shouted and it seems like if it works, but it doesn’t solve problems, it solves my problems, it works in the moment ok well, it's like one fire after another, right? this is a podcast of today's psyche , our heroes alexander and anna came together by request, anya is afraid of any transport. and alexander really wants to help his wife. so, back to the feeling of guilt towards alexander, it is based on your opinion that alexander is nervous about you because of the way you behave, this opinion is erroneous. this is not how alexander is nervous because of his beliefs related to the way you behave, and alexander's tension is

now not meant to offend, it is exclusively selfish, not because of you. not you, the reason people get nervous is not because of the circumstances. and because of what they mend circumstances think, so, if we think that what is happening now is just a misfortune, it should not be so. although in fact it already exists and we seem to live for years, then such thoughts will undoubtedly create tension even as your tension, when you get into the car and think that you should not show your peculiarity, can you show it? now, if you both think so, my wife can show such a feature that it can cause me, but some kind of danger? maybe zhenya is full of danger. so we periodically, as we do, there, she will tell me, like, sasha don’t accelerate there, and he will turn me around. she says don't yell at me. i say, well, don't tell me this. or rather, i should have said it by saying, i need to shout, like, all of you recognized

the reality, she needs me like this, i would like that i can’t do it differently, but i can’t do it differently and that’s also possible but here is one of the tricks e.g. anger management. and now here you can shift it to outbreak control, which means panic. yes it is to plan the outbreak in advance understand i get into the car, and i tell myself straight out, i'm definitely going crazy. i'm definitely sasha, i'm definitely crazy. be ready. i myself am ready. sasha is ready, everyone is ready, they freaked out, yelled, we go on, we live for the fifth year, as we live, you understand, and no one feels guilt for anyone, no, there. uh, sorry that this happened. it is always the first step to accept what is to accept it means to take it. here, take my folder. accept, you understand, and now i will accept from you, as if in all the books it is written that you must accept life such as it is, as it is not written. and here i took it, and when you took it, that you can

do something with it, while you are talking, you can’t have a bad folder. she's something terrible here black ugly everything go out to suffer because of this folder. that's why it's always the first step. yes, this is what to take your hands when in the picture she distilled driving, everything is fine there. go karting and drive slowly. wait, you are driving yourself on the map , these are who, i understand, who is holding the wheel? and how do you see a series of such a picture? so see, yes, and it’s going, how can everyone drive like everyone else, and i’m behind quietly, just driving, uh, i didn’t finish my studies because of covid, and now 3 years have passed. i'm not sure that i can even sit behind the wheel to be proud of the instructor. she traveled the playground. she gave up. well, listen, look, then, this is also a request for