let's say american life. yes, there are all these konoval, but these are not really wide, yes, how is it ours? uh , my favorite pale sings all my stories, in principle, are similar, that is, uh, all these novels, they really are. well, there's some man he's addicted to. he's the one there. well, there is more or less, but this moment of what he understands. it's that he's addicted. there, he feels his own, as it were, this slavelike one, as if before some kind of drug for life. yes, that is, and that's it plunges, uh, into analysis, yes, that is , laying it out on paper, as if trying to sort it out somehow consistently, because drug addicts are some kind of dependent people. they are often unable to think three sentences in a row in one convey. he needs to write. that is, it must be enabled. yes, that is literally. here is a letter, but it collects the brains of such personalities, that is, for what

with all these dependencies. here are the texts of the letter - this is one of the most powerful practices , these are these analyzes and so on. and you think that the life of a birch, that it is tragic, because, for example, i see that he is incredible, lucky in the first place, despite his abuses. he lived to be 83 years old and died of a heart attack, which was quite unexpected and outlived even his own son, and then he never went to prison. although in america these years. well, it's actually in the books. yes, it is punishable by law. all were imprisoned all were imprisoned, but birches and escaped from prison, and the most interesting thing is that he killed his wife. that is, it would not be accidental caution, but so how to see by chance or not, because he had a quarrel with her in front of friends. she humiliated him, saying that he was a bad hunter, he didn’t have to shoot, and he decided to prove that he knew how to shoot , put a glass on his head, which means, naturally, he was drunk and shot and hit

not in the glass, but in her forehead. that is, he killed his own wife, but uh, thanks to his rich family, oh, which i already mentioned, he managed to escape. e punishment. and maybe mentally he was worried, it's because he talked about what this experience and made of it writers that he began to write precisely after this event, which he experienced, but nonetheless. we can say that the person, uh , did not bear almost any responsibility. and even his literary experience. and now it becomes a classic. he becomes famous. that is , even in the sixty-sixth year of the court of massachusetts. e admitted that his book naked lunch is a literary work , and not at all something obscene, because the book was banned at one time, er, but at the trial it was acquitted for him. hey, norman we or alan gisberg j. chardy is

a beat writer, they defended, in general, their friend, but you can also say a rival. you understand that there is no literature. yes, such close friends are more like competition. well, that's what they all said. i read the court records, everyone said that this is a unique work, a unique artistic method. oh, and american society. let's put it this way, it can't do without , uh, this look without this language, which i introduced to beru, that is. basically, he's lucky or not, you know, that's how i am still an artist, yes, that is, uh, me. i experimented a lot with different media. yes, this is called art techniques, that is, electronic modern art and some kind of theater and painting of the 20th century and painting, whatever. and when i started writing lyrics. that's actually, somehow i began to realize myself. how exactly is the author of the text. i understood such a moment that for literature. uh, well, from the point of view of creative

media, yes, that is, from the point of view of creative material, this is the only practically absolute freedom is, as it were, a method, that is , according to the classics, it does not require money and only you and in fact have money to create it. yes , nothing can happen at all. that is, i can now go climb the ceiling on foot, well, go down from it to bring a diamond from there, and that's all. here, i have now painted a whole story in painting. you are everything in the movie. this is all for yourself the only place where you can do this is animation, but this is also other labor costs. and this, this, and this incredible accessibility of literature, the power of these images, which you can create like this, and this, of course, cannot be compared in terms of creativity. hmm, freedom of creativity. yes freedom e creative expression is beyond compare, of course, does not go. that is, you

are always doing some kind of 2d art. or there, like a raccoon, you always come across some interpretations of restrictions, yes , restrictions on interpretations of distortion. and here you are directly in plain text. as if, so to speak, you cut it, somehow it’s all, that’s what i thought. that is, it is ideal perfect format. eh, and in this sense, as if the birch was lucky that he, as it were, immediately began to engage in this art. only then, by the way, he is not only a writer. he also painted pictures. tell me about it. well, yes, then here, uh, the fifties- sixties, a huge galaxy of american abstract expressionist artists arose. that's where jackson the chef is short. well, there is a whole one. these are the authors who are now worth hundreds of millions of dollars there and so on, they immediately began to build good money. yes, he drew rather primitivist paintings, mostly on boards. on some, and then, uh, all of her used to shoot them. together with holes, all

shot through. and by the way, in a paradoxical way, it’s as if they don’t know this in moscow, but in st. petersburg, for example, i saw one of these paintings in the permanent exhibition of the russian museum, in the framed palace. yes, and there was even such a very funny moment when i studied the second book. i am now describing this episode there, when i studied at the russian museum of longing studies there such an alexandrovich borovsky is a wonderful art critic. such a director, the department of our current. we are teachers. i somehow go to him, and there are some paintings standing there, i look like that, alexandrovich is there and what kind of picture is there, and is it standing there? well, such a two by 2.70, there are high paintings there, there is something like picasso, there is some kind of a pack like that. in this, there is some kind of peeled board. i say it in general, that yes, yes william berus. and i just already at that moment i had already stopped using it, i was prescribing all these of my own. i just give back, i've made contact with

birose through his material art correctly one hole at a time. it's invisible there. i recorded my feelings there, as if passing a finger through the pictures i take. yes through the picture number, that is, uh and. as a matter of fact, he produced quite a lot of these pictures. they are. uh, in many museums there is something like that, and i really liked it too, like uh, then i was also all like that at dawn. so to say, some kind of artistic career did not really like the creative method, that how would a person draws and writes books and films there filmed on it. there she makes some kind of video art and collaborates with termers. nothing in file form. such a media format of creativity is very close when you are, as it were, the center of your own creativity, by the way, performance is correct, when your life becomes the object of your art. and so you

can do there is such a concept that life, as art, life, as a work, that is, there is historical, how would your canvas be. that is, it's stupid, because why do they buy some paintings for expensive, there some warhov, because this is the same worl, because there is a whole life, then the legend is in this episode of life. he painted this picture there was with that one, then that one was there frankly. that is, you buy this story here, and the story, what is it? this is a text, that is, it is a kind of story. that is, you still consider the main direction. eh, i take creativity. literature was forgotten, right? well, of course, but these paintings are such artifacts, but the accompaniment of merchandise. well nirvana used for the album cover, in my opinion, one of his pictures, when you get such wild popularity, there are already, in general, t-shirts there and that’s it, this is the bureau for also, i think, there were t-shirts and some hats some collectibles there, too , could be somehow jackets. there are his trademarks.

there are some must- read podcasts out there. i am a directing writer on a body shirt, my guest is kirill shamanov, an art critic writer. artist specialist in the art of the xx century. we are discussing william birch and his junky and naked lunch novels. listen and here, in spite of his say. so elitism. it's in his books. i see that he perceives these inhabitants of the bottom. these konovalov pushers are more flint than hipsters, by the way, the word hipster is also used by bio-growth nobody, not actually beatniks. and there were hipsters that now we know a little differently. we do not use this word then it was a person who was in the subject. well, what are you talking about, uh, these people live here, that he was friends and communicated with the inhabitants. he perceives them. uh, as equals, although we understand that he came out of a completely different environment. and so he

starts hanging out with some, well, just thugs, loafers begins to steal, and well, in general, and at the same time, uh, there is no feeling of any hierarchy. i have a feeling. here is some kind of equality of partnership and brotherhood. let yes man be a wolf to understand that in this situation, probably, there can be no friends when everyone is hunting. yes, for some drugs, and most importantly - this is a drug, but nonetheless. i have a feeling that this is some kind of magical world. uh, bra-brotherly or no? i've seen quite a few uh kids. these are the rich parents. eh, they come in a good car, there is a car there in a week already. worse a week later, the car is completely bad. yes i'm through and then on a new car. well, it depends on how parents support, but in general. yes, of course, that is, in this environment of use there, in general, there is only

one hierarchy. that is, you have it there and you don’t have it? that is, if you have, you are the king of god, and everyone loves you and all your friends don’t have you . nobody really needs you there. you know it, and as if the only thing there is somehow there you can somehow credit something in debt there it’s the very thing to crawl, so there they erase these things, as it were, that is, some social hierarchies are lost, yes, the rich educated. well, from the rich, so you have. and this means that you, if you were rich yesterday, as if, i'm sorry, is it educated or not well , of course, it will probably be more pleasant to talk with you, but in fact, no one really talks there, they don't lie silent. well, how do you seems to be taking from here, choosing. uh, this experience, making it his literary material, and he consciously went into living life in an extreme, dangerous way. coming out dry from the water. wherein. i think that in

case i take over here in junk, just at the beginning of this novel. it more or less describes. i think that after all, but he was just so young in weight, yes, well, few people like to work, and such situations, yes, that is. well, you know, it's me. here, too, for example, it is believed that i also do not work, and as a result it turns out all the same books, such as writing suffers. there you carry these pictures all the time back and forth. something is always busy with something. that is, uh, therefore, these are people who often do not want to work, as if they don’t understand that they will have to work all their lives, i’ll write a lot, i had to work, of course. yes, if i would come back like that, i think that it was still young in weight and so. here, as if he had some strange experience, apparently, and most likely he ended up several times somewhere on the verge of life and death, and he was cut through, which it’s as if he’s just about to die now and that’s it, well, at the same time, there was still such a guy, as

if well-read there with some kind of subtle obviously yes perception, yes, that is, well, as if he perceived some fragile things there he perceived subtle things, tracked it all, of course, he was greatly frightened by the prospect of dying. eh, in such a senseless. well, somehow he decided to deal with it. and so i think this is it. that's how roman junky became such an important over-effort. for him. we can say that here similar literature. eh, somehow promotes this way of life or fascinates? or so to speak draws in or rather vice versa? experience shows that those people who generally, in principle, read, of which there are few of them. here here they have a chance, that is, they have something formed there, some higher nervous activity, some kind of dreams, maybe they are delusional, but those have nothing to lose, they are easy-going. and if a person has

some kind of this one on the cortex, some dreams , some desires to become someone, or i don’t know how it will take place, or some adventures in life hmm not only there in the yard there from one front door to another walk, then reading. it is, in principle, any, no matter how useful it is, if it is also thematic. rather , it is positive, that is, junk for me when i read it for the first time i consumed it. for me, it worked for me. here is the consumption effect of what, as it were, here, uh, here's the dude, everything is the same, but he took the book and wrote it, that is, here's the state. and i'm sitting here, sitting here, i'm picking up something here , something there is the same thing. i live some kind of boring , completely dull, monotonous life, as a matter of fact. this is a book about a feat, that is, about a feat. yes, because sex, all these autofiction novels, in which, uh, the author is there or the hero, he survives, these are books about a feat about a person's feat in front of himself,

because a person he rebels against himself turns out to be his vicious part. yes, who owns it. yes, and yet he is completely lost state. he doesn't know what to do with all those who are physically destroyed, and for all the society is destroyed. he already stole from everyone there. who can have something, that is, uh, garbage lies e not thought for months, as he himself describes hmm yes and somehow it's all put together , and something to process into a fiery text. well, this is this is something not well, that is, this field is real, this is not a normal state for even an ordinary person. without the experience of writing, you get, you awaken some kind of critical consciousness correctly, a rope, a rope, into a cord. you are something there, not just on this does not mean you do not find, and you are building yourself, in fact. making some new connections. and tell me, but uh, i take you, what is its peculiarity,

because there is actually a lot of literature like jang, but why exactly do i take it from e, you can say? why is this an artistic approach? why and his prose has artistic value, and not just the value of the experience described. i guess by writing this junk here. he realized that it really could be a success, that he, maybe he likes it, that it's better than there exactly the way he lived there or and so on. yes, that is, and he went on. then he began to explore, and already more. i think the junk is there. here you go, literally, there is some kind of contribution there. he's not like that. it’s kind of big, but if, for example, in connection with junk, there is a naked breakfast, yes, that is, it’s in a naked breakfast, he will absolutely help his work, and he uses there, uh, mosaic. yes, and everyone has some kind of it, but, but what is it? this is essentially

research. here, as it were, here is the transgressive experience of the writer. that is , when you had something internal , something happened there, a typewriter. i don't know paint and something became, this inner became something of a part. yes the landscape is there, uh part of the landscape is part of the cultural landscape. that is , uh, and this is precisely this moment of transition, when this creative energy comes out of the writer, transforming a certain one. somehow it is refracted and splashes out there on canvases and on paper. this is exactly this psychedelic moment . this is the creative one, he tried to analyze it in a naked breakfast, to be honest, it's not very clear. why is it necessary? because it's more or less individual for everyone. more or less. that's pretty much what happens. that is, well, he wrote. well, he did it, it wasn't written. he

did it. this book is so niche. so i think, that is, this is a book that should have been written by someone in the film adaptation of the gron. berg removed. uh, a certain keith lunch movie. e. here. i last looked even there are two or three organizations. that is, such a cultural wave still went from him, and what do you think, here are the followers, yes, and the tattered lsh hunter thompson there, you think they scooped up the choice already, after all, he was honest, here i would share, that is. eh, i'm taking it. these are people with this experience. but hunter thompson is an alcoholic. e, who for some reason wrote about what he is very good at. i don’t dep, and even paid for his funeral , i love him incredibly, but i love him not for that. that is, uh, to be honest, hunter thompson, uh or uh, and here is the naked breakfast, just here i rather, unfortunately, maybe even

mold more countertoms, but these are such writers about the frenzy there some there, and there somewhere to run. there is something there all the time. there. actually. they are not about some kind of addiction experience and not about some kind of experience. that is, it is some. well, such, as it were, the novels of some burnt dude's clips. i mean, to be honest, hmm, as if i don’t want to say that, but i will say this is a meaningless book about nothing , it is russian literature. e. the beatniks influenced, the berouz influenced, we can say, well, here is our favorite, by the way, eduard and animinovich limonov. yes, with his eddie, he arrived absolutely in the seventies, in the freshest form he scooped up this russian with his, so to speak, literary consciousness, he scooped up this beatnik drive, so to speak, and managed to rethink it with a whisk. yes, a filter, yes, and launch it into russian culture, russian ice, great russian literature, and this, by the way, turns out

to be incredibly refreshing, and this one here is the style of auto-fiction. uh, how like such a kind of dogma? yes, that is, as an endless development of a novel of some kind, that is, all these, of course, are methods that were transmitted through lemon into russian literature. i think honestly, but only at the beginning there is such a long way of russian literature that they are now saying there are still chances. you know how many years ago you see with surprise the inscription found some articles somewhere, which means that many of these literary critics started and it means they were ironic that autofiction went, as if in russia listen, i hear a lot of criticism in side of art fiction. at the same time , it is completely meaningless criticism, because, well, there are some. well, there is a cultural wave. yes, this is true and you can't do anything about it. just again someone will be talented to do it, someone will do it badly. what a historian and the art of modern medicine. i have another version such that we are generally

doomed to autofiction, the next 10,200 years. eh, it's just that now in general, it seems to me, that 's such a great literature, especially a large literary form. it's in some kind of this. if not for autofiction, it would be in a big crisis, but, in principle, no one reads novels for a long time. now everyone is more interested in the short form, in my opinion, the short short form and the form that relies on some reality. that is, we are not now seeing, for example, on television a huge number of these reality shows, they are even going out of fashion, but they are all coming out. they can get out. so i think that the future lies in all memories of biographies. but the autofish of people is just stretching and paying in rubles, because it's real, because you really learn something there on the one hand. eh, on the other hand. it might be interesting somehow, if it's interesting, how stylishly

interesting, tasty there apologies for that word it is written there, then it will be consumed accordingly, because people will not be some distant terminological things. and when a person is there, here, i know him there. i passed it on to you and this is where it comes in, and now i also see popularity, it was big in the fifties. in general, one can say that you are an innovator and a pioneer of this approach to creativity in general, when you take your experience, all the more shameful, yes, some kind of negative and just it, open it honestly and show it from your own face. and as you say. ah, the man who understands uh, feels like this experience is real after all. well, i probably wouldn’t call him directly fat in this, but he really is. yeah, he made it a classic, you know. well, i would say so, it’s not that he came up with it, but he’s already driven it in so that it’s no matter how you screw it up,

because by and large there’s an auto-fix of memories and quite a lot, that is, different in every way, there and such and such qualities i have, yes, from everything, but he did it, really talented. firstly, yes , secondly, it is an interesting period of history. managed to shoot a section of this fiftieth, and in america some of these bikers before hippies. we suddenly find out that there was some kind of underground, some people there, here it is somehow in geely. that is, it’s completely like that. here is another historical moment. here, autofixation has a lot of advantages. i say if it's well written, plus it's historically interesting, it's a character. interestingly, the author is an interesting character, that is , there immediately goes a chain of some kind, it immediately fits in with some other people. as if, in fact, the universe of these autofishes and memories is such, as it were, that

it will give to literature. i'm thinking some extra, maybe after some time an extra mod block, because i'm generally expecting. i expect a cultural explosion , new literary fashion, it will not be so supermassive, but, but i can see it directly, it's all spinning in the air. these are literary clubs on topics. eh, and it will be right. that is, it is there, because people's brains are destroyed. yes, it's all over already it is clear that literature and texts something. well, the book is the only thing that can somehow include everything, or how is the brain, they say that it is the reading of the letter that is direct, yes, that is, to development. no, we see in literature several reasons to return so seriously, as if this is the most without jokes. that is, this media is very serious. this is a very serious tool, i just know from my own experience, and now, that is, the hardest ones, it can also

pull out the addiction. and if this is for me, no, there is even some there are several quotes, yes , they advise there, they combine there. some kind of gymnastics with well, a literary text work, it will be the main one anyway, and now i know. i know people's resistance. i mean that people resist, so to speak, this tension of the brain. they do not want to read and write. that is, you still need some, as a rule, you have dedicated your life to consumption. if then they are completely dependent on their own sources of income there, and consumption there. they live completely, how to say, the second brain there, the limbic system. yes i these books, they probably irritate such people, that is, because there is just such direct criticism, the limbic system. is it good to consume, is it good to eat 20 loaves of bread a day? well, you're used to it. well, great. do you like it's bread there or 20 pieces, you weigh 300 kg there. well, that is, you have it

destroyed there. well, it's good, come on, we'll round it up already. i want you to get answers to questions. here. he is lucky , he is a scoundrel scoundrel. that's why he's like that handsome came out of all this horror and became a star. and it seems to you that maybe this miracle happened so that we could see some way that he made. well , of course, he is undoubtedly her lucky and he was born lucky and somehow carried it already. well, like, well, on the other hand, here are ours. well , for some reason he killed it incomprehensibly, he got away with something good, but maybe you were not lucky with this. maybe i don't think so. i think that anyone else like that, who has gone through a hard experience, somehow survived and succeeded. but this now lucky or the person, uh, who did the duck. yes, it's probably just not in this discourse. yes, here, as it were, this moment is

that how could a person be able to leave himself of such a past and create a new one. yes , because it’s all to pick out in yourself and redo. it is a pain. incredible. it's not some switch to switch. it's like a long retraining of habits there, that's all. equally, i think that it’s not completely certain that you will somehow change completely right there, because this is not necessary. but if talk about that's it, uh, take it then consider it evil. and it seems to me that just when you are like this after all these alterations of yourself, you are not that angry. well , you seem to look at people a little with such condescension that you are such a good joke for you. well, nothing like that. in general, not knowing, that is, for a person. maybe there really can be some kind of injury, and there really is. destroy a person because you know what you are made of and how you were made. and what you

had to overcome. and you see that in a man has it, but he naively runs barefoot overgrown and in that direction and you tell him, you know there is a hole, there the abyss will be there, he does not listen. he thinks that you didn’t have it, you’re a fool as a result, then you go and look, well, he’s sitting in the pit there, well, the minister’s group came to take him and said that he was terribly grumpy and grumpy, he only brightened up when they talked about him petunias are generally a writer. i know that's how it is with the character of hmm, not everything, as it were, is golden. why is it getting old, you know? that is, it's all i've been through it all, you know? i mean , i've been through it all the time. well, he grew up, and you survived, that is. well, somehow this is all, it seems to me that they spoil the character. thank you very much for the conversation. this was a podcast, a must read. and i'm aglaya on the batch file in the director to write. my guest was artist-writer

arts council kirill shamanov. we talked about the work of william beroz.

for such a neighbor to wash russia, the simple people will immediately say healthy and you will smile and tell me, i have been waiting for you. i've been waiting for you. so the tv was waiting for you.

come on, i've been waiting for you. i'll come without screaming noise, well, i'll find some, i'll say. well, how are you here in general

? it's great, in general, volodya is not very good and will begin to tell. he said yesterday, for example, tarantino came to get drunk. he began to pester drunken cattle. i then said so sternly, but in general i managed to get out of russia. here are two of them. think it's not funny. in general , it was difficult. shared without you by your side. yes, i've been waiting.

it would be foolish not to mention such a name. well, you know, you probably heard the actress uma thurman heard how it turned out that you called the song that way. quite a long time ago there was no group in nizhny novgorod, but there was such a song, and after some song

i wrote, actually based on pulp fiction. i so liked him thurman there. i also found out that i have a very large foot size, as i liked this fact in itself. this one was hard to miss during their twist. i thought this was a funny song. i didn’t think at all, then i didn’t guess that this was the name of the team. eventually, when we had already gone this way and we needed a name, everyone offered a different breeze, dandelion. there were some more, and the name simply could not be found, the name was not found, and we sat and did not understand how we should be, and now we already needed it. so here is the girl who worked with us. natasha here she says, let's give him muturov, let's call this song, everyone has already thought. well, if there's nothing better we can think of

, let it be when we call this mind. you saw with her. she is generally aware of what is in russia the group is aware. yes, she is aware, we did not see her, of course, but she is aware of the chuk, of course, she came somehow or tarantino came. here with her dad, by the way, met with robert, he also came with dad, yes, and tell us how they gave him some records for her there, i don’t know whether he brought it or not. but the most interesting was. a little later, when my friend made a good uaz kovalev. this is my birthday present. i didn't know, it was a surprise, in my opinion, for 40 years. yes, forty. uh-huh yes, and how then i i realized that it’s impossible to find her at all, that is, she lives a very closed person, somewhere a very closed life, there are 1,000 producers of some kind you need to go through and you will never go through them to get to her. as a result, my friend, he had to enter into

some kind of close relationship with all her relatives there, some brothers. he made friends with all the mothers and sisters there. and in the end, he made it so that she congratulated me on my birthday. well, he shot me a video of how she congratulated me on my birthday. she there are some of these dumplings like that they like buddhists, what are they called? dumplings? well, in general, they have some. yes, there is some kind of tradition, and here, in general, these dumplings were blinded for me, like all in flour. wow, happy birthday, that's awesome! this was a surprise. i just didn't expect it at all. he says, and now look at the screen there is my gift on the screen, well, everyone was shocked. i didn't understand at all how cool it could be. what are the plans? there are a lot of plans now, we are preparing to release a new song, which makes me crazy like. i directly i don't know i am very happy that i wrote it at all. i can

tell. tell me this is the song of the yoke tower the story of this song this is 504 years ago, and not far from the city an army of nomads passed. they had an idea, they tried to storm them, the city of nizhny novgorod is ours, yes, and they only sent a detachment that quietly crept up to the walls of the city. and they hid in the vegetation until someone came out of the garage. there won't open the gate to see at all what population and the girl the first one who went for water, she stumbled upon this detachment. with a yoke with buckets, they all apparently wanted to ask something, but the girl was unusual. she accepted the battle and in general staggered 10 people with this yoke, the townspeople later found her surrounded by ten dead enemies. and, of course, she died too. unfortunately, yes, but these guys who returned, yes, the survivors of this

detachment. they returned to their camp and said that it was useless to storm the city if there are such girls, then what kind of men are there then , in honor of the feat of this girl, the townspeople named one of the towers of the nizhny novgorod kremlin rocker tower. that is, we have such a tower, a yoke tower, which has such a history, and i, when i heard this story. i just couldn't believe that there are such girls. that's literally created a national musical monument. i realized that i want to write this story in a song . patricia kaas what kind of history did you have together, the idea came up to sing something with someone from the french. we began to look for who we can sing with, because there were different options and somehow it happened by chance, that someone had an acquaintance right there, an acquaintance of patricia's acquaintances, just we are talking cool. let's offer the third

box office to sing with us. he somehow reacted like that right away. well, i often worked already in russia, i worked in russia a lot. her only condition was that the song had to be new written especially for her. well, for me it 's like not a novelty that you urgently need to write some song yesterday and more do you know there is such a song paris we have? i saw this clip, but i never got around to it. yes, in this clip which was filmed in paris and is being filmed by pierre , how old he was 74. well, i was 74, in my opinion it was at that time. yes, he came to the shooting on a motorcycle. here is a handsome man in general and this hair always yes, yes, we sat with him drinking this beautiful homemade calvados which we treated paris there yes, we drank to him and the refrain of this song in

french, the song paris sounds so strong in french, as it were, as we all understood that it was french and now i sing this song to him. he likes it, he says cool song uh, i say, well, you get the idea what is french he says, no, he did not understand. yes he has a french song in what language? yes, the refrain was in french, but, unfortunately, pierre richard he did not understand that it was french, but for us, not for russians , it sounds as if the french group uma thurman vladimir and sergey krestovsky was our guest, this is a podcast of 20 years, later i am the presenter konstantin mikhailov