when he is generally in a different key and in a different position, this is the most beautiful melody , just like the freigil, he is a very subtle person with him. you see, he is our idol. i have exercise head another sting song this is messional. interesting, uh, i heard it played in that kind of ever band voice somewhere in a restaurant. and i listened. they also did it in a completely different way, and my own version of the camera was born in my head, which i periodically also perform at the apartment houses. yes, that's also interesting. my story is connected. do you remember when new year was filmed on the first channel, there was also a roxet and instinct was there and in general, in my opinion, everything and just before the performance,

sting had some kind of rearrangement of the switching, some kind of cassettes were changed, i don’t know, but for about 40 minutes, probably, it was pause, if not an hour. i walk down the corridor and i see the dressing room outside, bored, sting i come up , and i was a wildly insecure teenager then, but it took me some uh, a moment of laughing to start a conversation and something about moscow something about britain i'm there studied. i'm here. well, maybe 15-20 minutes just chatting about nothing, and we were bored too. and the administrator comes up and says, well, that's it, it's time. and i say it was very nice to meet you. and the administrators say if you want to take a picture. and there was such a moment in me, i think, well, this must be observed. some kind of style . yes, no, probably, why am i going. and so i walk 5 m. i think you're a moron, what did you just say? why, but it was wrong to turn around already. hmm, that means, in fact, i think that the photos are,

of course, great. stays here and here. this is absolutely accurate. and if in russian, i mean, not sting who could it be by songs already, in principle, he named his idols one in front of you here. and there were two guys there, it was wonderful, it turns out. today i am singing this song now, then, i will perform all the songs of my e russian idols. everything is correct. yes? oleg mikhailovich, what about my glasses? and this is lenina, agutin, of course, guessed the horizon of your moon, which no night opened a huge umbrella, meet the pink dawn for a long time lilac moon i so wanted to be alone, not forgetting about me at the window, when the new day was tired, the same as

always, you flew so far away. when this dream came that arose not about me, you forgot everything so easily. you will forget about me boulder. maybe only we are on a par, leaving for me only a tonic thread. only a drop of regret ends this song, as a rule. i really like the live performance of the concert , he made this song wider than it is on the decameron album, yes, it’s such a more frivolous sadness parting somehow, but

stadium, i totally agree. sometimes i have moments. i sing. here in the company i can not so precisely. as you enter the stage, it appears from somewhere. what fools, expensive supply of adrenaline, and everything and everything flies , and you have it just so very organically beautiful. so you're right where you are guy. what is the campfire time with guitar? yes , friends , you can see all episodes of the podcast melody of my life on the website of channel one one tv.ru. enjoy watching , i can’t help but ask, well, it’s clear that plans are how to live happily ever after, but maybe something uh in the new season in concert. eh, to

want to implement. and where you can be seen and heard by viewers. i have an album out now. it's called step forward. i have a book of poems. uh, here is the fixation on paper written this is a separate work in fact, if i write poetry, it will never become a song and vice versa. well , no, in principle, here is the father. we always said that if your song can be read like poetry, then it turned out well. but this is also important. yes, yes, but there is some kind of genre absolutely separate from the song of all additions are the verses of rodion gazma. he's just here to go and shoot creativity. yes, yes, and the name came up with the name. i'm still thinking, we are now engaged in the design of what will be on the cover, my ten-year-old daughter at that time. yeah, i also published a book for her. i'm sorry this is a simple comparison, but she said i

know what the book will be called. that's how she said fantasy and poetry. i say beautiful and why is it so fantasy and poetry, because fantasy overflows, but poetry does not have boundaries, right? it can be ingenious, you know, i remember a wonderful italian screenwriter and not only screenwriters of such a wide profile had a palace before nina guera he says, in my childhood my most vivid impression is the sea, and they ask him. and why does he say, because the sea does not fit in the eye. that's how it always is. by the way, we touched on the program today. especially i, when a person who doesn’t know english well, sometimes i translate, something leaning on me arises, because here are the songs shane showed me, so it's a thorn in

my heart. i wanted to translate like this. yes, something that you can not pull out, yes pull out. i'm just to what it pushes. that 's wrong sometimes so that fantasies can sometimes push you to another shape song b to wave this is a song in which you don’t talk about any love at all. it's absolutely vital, yes, the script, that is, it's through the card master oh, so to speak, something won't let your heart out, like it's like a person. uh, realizing life through playing cards let's just say yeah, well there's a lot of layers in this song . in fact, a lot of people are arguing about what the song itself is about. here but here in my understanding, yes? about man i watched a grandiose film on channel one at night there was a rogerators film. mm, who just said a brilliant thing in my opinion, he says, he attributes so much. here's wake , my acoustic song, with so much meaning attributed to it. so around this

pink floyd song there are a lot of words at home, and he says, i decided to explain to you that this is father mine thought that he was a parasite, that he was a serious military man, and he said that a man should fight in a trench with his ideals. and you squishy play guitars there and even when i was already a famous musician. you always it's a zamon. my father didn't change for me. and when he passed away, and i wrote this song, how would he go to another dimension, to say pap i just have a different cop. but i'm in a trench, just like you. i just do it with the guitar. and this is about it. you see, such a deep parallel too. well yes, from the sad you want to turn into something bright . the book, the concert plans are a bunch of concerts. now we are launching such a theme of apartment building, that is, with a live cast. ah. i read poetry, i sing everything, this the whole concert passes

like one big emotional block, because the links between the songs go in verses , too, with a musical background and all my poems and this is no longer just a concert. it's practically a performance. well, good. and i'm very glad that we succeeded with my composition of musicians and it turned out very cool. great here, well, the joy of a joyful night. and we always complete the program with a melody of joy. what song? you

know that this is actually a love melody for eric clapton, because this is a very manly beautiful story, he and his friend george harrison were. well , clapton was secretly in love with the saint's wife, never overstepping. she left george, she went to eric, and then i remember now eric clapton is not with her either, but they managed to be taller. this one. eric came to george and asked, do you mind? this very important friendship really. well, here is such a melody of joy. look how pleasantly you talk with a person whose eyes are burning, who wants to work for you, dear viewers, with all my heart

there is a song you sing with your father dance while you are young. so i was also like you, and i was spinning like a clockwork, but worries came, home, family, work. dance while you're young, while you're young, boy. dance while you're young. dance while you're young, boy. dance while you're young, the more you move. tem positive podcast. we are fine in life. please tell me as an announcement, is there any kind of blank, well, so that for the future here is an album that will be

released step forward a small fragment. uh, for the main hit. i'm just interested in our dear ones, because i don't show new ones. no, no, i show, but not to everyone. a small, small key in the heavens, the sunset and the sun are trembling in circles, and tomorrow morning you will wake up completely different. as if time has not broken the seal, and you can learn again dream and song, i'm gray again heads, damn it's time to be lazy. will be back again again it's time. lazily, vinyl records will return again,

for sure. she's already in full swing. it can be said that this is how i ended the concerts now , just such small club songs we finish the paralina concerts. okay, i was very pleased. you can talk about him as a lamp man, who, in the best traditions of already a musical family. gazmanova continues to carry this city's flag. thank you very much. the bones of the melodies of my life this is the easy money podcast, i'm its host mikhail khanov today our guest is anatolyevich sokolov, russian

scientists, academician of the russian academy of sciences, director of the federal rural center for management informatics and, importantly, dean of the moscow state university faculty of computational mathematics and cybernetics. hello. michael, let's start with who it people are. here is some classification. we can say that today we are all it people as soon as we have smartphones in the generation in which we now have them, we are all in one way or another must be able to use information technology tools to be able to use these gadgets to understand how they work. otherwise, we simply will not fit into the modern rhythm and lifestyle. but your question, of course, is not related to this; your question is related to those people who have associated their profession with this phenomenon with these technologies. they also create with these tools. of course, this is what i consider the most, of course,

the fundamental layer of it people who develop methods in our time, they were called engineers. engineer including, i think that all the same, i mean scientists scientists, who are scientists who, on the basis of fundamental mathematical results of deep penetration into these mathematical results, create those methods that then turn into technologies into tools. here, which we use another layer - these are the people who masterfully use these tools to solve some practical problems, this is the layer that is actually considered by many to be those who write programs. those who create gadgets automatic platforms on which the main mass manifestations of these same methods and technologies are based. and this, of course, is the main thing

for it people, but there are also other it people who use this tool in their daily life. well, it's probably anyone . whom do you cook cabernetics - this is part of the moscow university of moscow university, this is first and foremost. such a traditional fundamental classical university, therefore, of course, our main task is still to answer the challenge and prepare scientists are those people who are those specialists who are at least potentially ready to conduct scientific research. we teach this guys. so i wanted to ask a few words about the most famous graduates, or is there a cohort of graduates in the mc, because i recently found out that vyacheslav nikolaev, president of mts , graduated from the mc among graduates. there are well-known

scientists who head such iconic academic institutions, for example, sergei mikhailovich abramov, director of the institute of software systems in pereslavl-zalessky a very interesting institute for a long time, which not only conducted scientific research, but also trained specialists in this field. well, i'm sitting in front of you, too, the director. uh, as you said, the federal research center for informatics of the board of the russian academy is one of the largest uh academic institutions of our profile. good silicon valley graduates in mk - these are the main guests very much. here i didn’t particularly single out silicon valley, but there is a rating among the work of givers, here in our area, information technology graduates of the vmk are in the top 10 of this rating. there is

no one else in the world among russian universities in this ranking. no, it is clear that mathematics is a science that is not getting younger, but it is and is, but, at the same time, there is certainly development in it, as in any science. and here's a question related to this. what is the average age of a teacher or mathematics on vk well , for example, let's say it 's generally difficult for teachers to separate mathematics. he teaches programming or some other subject, average age is about 45 years. but these are young, very young, and in fact, we have been paying a lot of attention to this lately, as far as russian. they fight for your graduates. you don't let them go. it's just that we learned, yes, and please, guys, swim, not only don't let go, but we do it. well, let's say professional training not only as a specialist, but as people, uh, socially

oriented, we are engaged in the very first courses with our guys and the choice is not only a profession, but which apparently took place once he became a student at the vmc, but the place of work is also one of the tasks for us, so we are holding an event where we invite future employees, starting from the second year, starting from the second year and among all large it companies without exception. uh, the faculty of the wmc is listed as one of the main bots fighting for your students motivates degrees . he didn’t say anything else that they don’t fight, but they are all extremely interested. all of them are present. well in a cult these uh presences can be all kinds of joint labs joint training a program where not only university professors work with the guys, but also technical staff who are already involved

in applied applications, so that this is not burdened with any future obligations. so you have to go there to work, no, and even under such conditions, everyone is interested and certainly not only to go to companies, by the way, companies, that is, all giants are interested in their own ip-platforms, on which they will hang their own and there is no do without the understanding that today eh? uh, the economy in in general, about the industry, first of all, it cannot do without tools that we call information technology you. surely there is work experience before the balloon system, which was adopted after, well, i ’ll tell you by my own example what to call it was a special system of systems . and i, therefore, when i hear that all these modern names are favorable and the magistracy still confuses them, to be honest, because we had such a system, we

completed the university course in 3 years, and then we 3 years worked in institutes. academy of sciences here. i personally had an institute for the problems of mechanics in the southwest. that's 2 years. we worked there, in which we received part-time jobs, even yes, if we were sixth-year experimenters or theoreticians, we wrote a diploma, and it was a full-fledged scientific work, and it was often certified on the basis of her diploma. here, how do you feel about the system. eh, the one that exists now. the cassette that we are going to refuse like russia and what then we return to the strip of the system - this not 4 + 2, this is not the most important characteristic, the main feature is the measurement of the level of knowledge that you have received the amount of knowledge that you have received. yes, just learning. yes, for each subject there is a so-called credit unit in different countries. they can be called differently, but any

person who opens a diploma sees the name of the discipline and the number. he, in principle, understands the level. that is, it is the unified coordinate system. yes. it is clear to everyone in the amount of information that you betrayed. well , of course, the grades you got. in learning process here is the essence of the balloon system. and in general, even a completely good point is that we are coming out of there and that voices are now sounding so actively from all sides that we are refusing it and, most likely, will refuse it . . this seems to me the most unfortunate choice. that is, one could choose one of the aspects is the measurability of the amount of information, well, that is, what you were taught at the university but do not change, and most importantly, do not do

breaks in education. that's right, that's where we're going. and this is indeed correct. and, uh, it's high time to do this, also four plus two at the vmc is studying, as it is not everywhere else. uh, at moscow university, not all faculties have switched to two steps. well, let's say the mechanic of the political faculty did not pass five years in it. 6 years 6 years. yes, but already starting from the twentieth year from the twentieth year. we have made the decision to return to continuing education. that is, in this case, this specialty is called we develop. we now we have already advanced quite far on this path, but this path is quite complicated, but it is correct, this break in education does not allow preparing those

specialists who are able to engage in science and engineering and practice and practice. yes, that is, it turns out that the key to success is we restore the continuity of education throughout. even if five, a is better than 6 years, and we leave the system a of assessing the level of knowledge according to that common unified coordinate system that is accepted all over the world so, it seems to me, this is an ideal option, a the number of years depends on the specialty and i remind you that in the soviet union, not only a five-year education was from six-year-old children. until now, they have been studying for 7 years and now, uh, 4 years have been for people in creative professions. so years need to be determined. specialty okay let's so here's our whole audience, you know, how everyone wants to know. that's good. you are so cool to us now, you tell everything, let's say we have it there, we have smart kids who will go there. what is the current competition? by the way, well the competition is now

very difficult to understand. but if it is normalized to the past. yes, here's an understanding of the contests there were eight people for the 89th place at the time i was enrolled. it was the seventy-first year, it was just as over the top, the numbers are generally speaking now, but in the mk of the order of five people there is a very good competition on the spot. i think you should be much more proud, but now man is pride. i thought now you say 2-3-5 - this is already, well, a real success. not this way. and this despite the fact that, uh, we stand out among other faculties and universities of universities. e of our profile so that we require four use results i.e. russian mathematics, informatics and physics. and the exam today is called very deeply. pretty math is obvious

, or is it that ordinary mathematics is required by russian mathematicians and something to choose from physics or computer science is not. this is an easy money podcast, i am its host mikhail khanov, and today our topic is what are it people, where are they trained? and why they earn the most already, leaving the institute. the man graduated from the vc finished well, where he is expected. in addition to go company it-company - this is not the most important thing is what we are preparing the guys for. the most important thing. i'll get back to this industry about the amount of required network administrator specialists, who here it is clear that, uh, vmk, they are preparing all the aircraft designer, before that he develops it

on special platforms. the tool models complex technical devices , mathematics, of course, is very subtle, very fundamental mathematics, despite the fact that there are a lot of packages that help to do this and nevertheless, if a person the fundamental one is unprepared, but he will not make an airplane. today, worldwide , it is impossible to transfer documentation to a plant for the production of an aircraft if there are no simulation results included in this documentation. but aircraft building is just one of the branches of industry, any shipbuilding structure that is propulsive for a car engine. construction today is again a modern electric power industry. yes, even this one. well, beam technology is again

a simulation full of life in order to design beautiful buildings, too, without mathematics to this should also be durable and convenient, maintainable, stable in certain areas, all kinds of, so to speak, engineering systems in the right way. here are those who also create. well , at least they count them. yes, and they choose the optimal correct option. this is the first and main animal. i know it's hard, but let's try. what salaries can your graduates claim right off the bat? the guys are fantasizing, that is, we will immediately tell the audience we don’t become attached, but uh, very close to the topic. uh guys get a lot of money that's how much i still no less than 100,000 no less immediately, while there are such guys and places where they immediately receive several hundred thousand. come on, i immediately once again here for

our audience for a reason, we are sitting here as anatolyevich and discussing it and vk, if you graduate from vk, then it costs the minimum that awaits you. and if you, uh, put a little imagination into your head and start working not just, but exploiting something, but inventing and creating, then this is both 200 and 300.000 immediately after the end of the training is fine , i definitely want to make a comment . here we follow ours, we follow not only how they are. do they work successfully or unsuccessfully and then by the environment, where do they get to? uh, their career growth. and that's what we notice is very easy to make the first jump and immediately get a lot of money. these are the same 200-300,000, but in the medium term , the average is 5-7 years. uh, this is

the wrong track the right trajectory gradually. gradually no need to jump right away for a large salary, it is better to go through all the necessary steps. and as we can see , those who are moving progressively, on this time matrix, the correct schedule is this , after all, yes, a little wavy, but directed upwards. still, it may be different around. of course, it wasn't time. this was not the first, it was all close, but with some. and we are playing, comrade, you and i, uh , understand, and i hope that our audience understands that in the short time that is given to our program to discuss exactly. here is a very important question that money can not

only to invest and there to receive this very passive income, but also active income and significant with their own work. moreover , it is very interesting to work with creativity with science and so on. you can use it. here is the same e that is heard by all topics and we discussed it with you. what is the specific role of the departments of mathematics and cybernetics of moscow state university discussed how does our government support this industry? so what? eh, in principle, money is not the main thing in a person's life. and what is the main thing, what is needed for happiness, we we live on the sidelines and in a society that makes a person need not to give up this feeling and not to run away. finally, you need to understand that we live in a happy place in a good place in a good society, or anatolyevich. i very much look forward to continuing the dialogue. thank you for

an interesting conversation. thank you for your answers and we look forward to seeing you again. thank you. thank you. lord god, glory to my god

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