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on the air big game in ukraine there are intense battles. in a way, this is no longer news. it's kind of become the norm. what is unambiguously news is that different ones have appeared in the west. uh, assessments of how the ukrainian counteroffensive is going and, most importantly, what needs to be done about it. and if it's about fighting, it is now in focus. e village. i think that you, general bukhinsky , will tell us what kind of village this is. and what, uh, is really happening there. well , let's first hear what about this , but he says, a foreign track. and
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let's start with her to the times. taking a job on will help boost morale. but even with the western arsenal, progress has been slow and costly, which begs the question. ukrainians will be able to move far, about 24 km from work in the russian-controlled city of tokmok road and rail junction, the return of which would be of strategic importance. however, as satellite images show, in order to reach the current , ukrainian troops will have to break through two more russian defensive lines. and how do you know , general, uh, in kiev they say, uh, what is the most difficult thing they have already done? and that now they will have a faster and almost guaranteed promotion. but here's what uh friends say. e kiev from the washington institute for the study of war, an institution uniquely friendly to the kiev regime. let's look at them assessment. satellite images published
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on august 27 testify to the transfer of some units of the 76th guards airborne storm division to the work area from the flint lugansk region. this redeployment further suggests that russian troops could use elite units to reinforce critical sectors of the front. russian military team. i have always actively used the formation twice both on the offensive and on the defensive, which, apparently, led to a weakening of the combat data units - this will limit the ability to carry out complex defensive operations and almost certainly prevent the kremlin from resuming a large-scale offensive. so they are translating it into understandable russian . so they are saying that the use of russian reserves will prevent russia from launching a new offensive in the near future. you, the general, said that it is not foreseen in the very near future. but uh, regarding the ukrainian offensive. and no triumph, even from the point of view of this institution, is visible there. well
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here, now let's see what the representative of the russian movement in this area rogov says. there are successes in the orekhov direction in the silver one. there we occupied several defensive midfielders. well hit the enemy command post. there they even retreated somewhat. we leveled the front , the activity of ukrainian units decreased. in the area located to the west of the willow village , the level of work has dropped sharply. attacks using armored vehicles. all offensives go on foot without even using pickups, but the enemy continues to actively use strike uavs and zhdan bombs, i want to draw your attention to the fact that this is a statement made today, which reflects the latest events at the front, general your words. yeah , you know dmitry, uh, working for this village, uh, area, well, 400 by 800 m, that is, uh 32.000 m², that is, this is a very small settlement
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. now it’s going on in general, you know, if you analyze what is happening now , uh, in kiev, i mean in the top military leadership, then general zaluzhny and general, syrsky, uh, a criminal clashed there commander of the sweater commander of the western troops. yes, that is, two people who, so to speak, one is responsible for everything, the other is responsible precisely for the line of contact, so to speak, on which the armed forces of ukraine and russia stand , so, uh, judging by everything laid down during recent meetings there on the polish ukrainian border with the commander-in-chief of the nato air force and the chief of staff of the armed forces of great britain and zaluzhny. uh, the western partner or
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sponsor managed to convince the pledged that the devices were so to speak. put nato tactics of warfare, and uh, so to speak, return to soviet tactics, that is, determine the direction of the main attack . the direction of the main attack. this is work for a magician , melitopol , access to the coast of the odessa e-e of the sea of ​​\u200b\u200bazov and, e, with the cutting of the land corridor to the crimea . uh, he is worried about the kharkov direction. he rightly fears that if he exposes this sector of the front in the north and transfers all combat-ready units on the e-e zaporozhye direction, then russian troops. eventually they will come to the coast. oskol er, they will gain a foothold there and organize another powerful defensive
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line in this way. uh, ukraine will again suffer significant territorial losses in the kharkov direction, so this is the concentration. uh, the main grouping in the zaporozhye direction, this indicates from my point of view that ukrainians are still in september. uh, they will make, uh, another attempt to break through our defenses. uh, all this talk about they had already broken through the first line of defense. this is all from the evil one. all our war correspondents. and uh, department of defense. this refutes they, uh, the fighting is taking place in the combat storage zone. uh, that is, to the first line. they didn't get there. uh, well, they think that the first line, the most powerful one, breaking through the first line will go further there. not a fact, but in any
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case, uh. they are now concentrating everything that remains, obviously all the remaining brigades are combat-ready in this direction. they are planning to create a powerful e-group of cannon artillery, and e-rocket launchers about 200. uh, units. ah, throw it there, all the remaining leopards and challengers, until the autumn ones begin there, so to speak, the autumn rains unravel. and uh, still try to break through our defenses. yes melitopol of course, they understand they will not reach. but at least, so to speak, wedged into our defenses to gain a foothold there in order to uh continue uh, this is the case. uh, unrighteous already in the spring and next summer. uh, i think that, uh, they will not succeed, because our defense, judging by
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the dynamics of the fighting of our troops successfully reflects all attacks , the destruction of ukrainian armored vehicles and artillery installations continues, despite the fact that they also actively use both drones and cluster munitions, nevertheless. e special promotion. yes, not that they have much at all . practically no work, yes. do i understand correctly that we are now discussing whether there was any or no progress at all, but they said it was a breakthrough. breakthrough. now no one wins at all no, but what a breakthrough there is no breakthrough understand? i'm a breakthrough, they only think dream plan. the americans believe that if they concentrate, so to speak, everything they have on this direction of the main attack and throw everything into battle, then they will be able to break through the first line of defense. they no longer think. they are already completely open. they say that there is no hint of a breakthrough
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yet, so far there is not even a hint of a breakthrough, so all this talk about what just happened on the big screen. uh, that russia is abandoning its reserves? this is not true either. and judging by that information, it is, of course, not complete, but what to say. uh becomes the property, so to speak, of the general public. we have, uh, a reserve of about 250,000 people who are being trained. and i think that these reserves are not for rotation. although this also cannot be ruled out. but i still hope that we, too, we are also planning an offensive operation. and the last. uh, these are zelensky’s statements that they have now announced, total mobilization plans to call 200,000 in the fall, uh, in winter and spring another 300,000. that is e to call half a million
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a man, so to speak, in the next summer, so to speak, to make another decisive offensive. i don't know where they get that amount from. ah, new recruits. eh, apparently. there , the male population capable of fighting, uh , is already ending, but nevertheless this cannot be ruled out. still, uh, they still have resources, therefore, from my point of view, it is necessary, of course, to reflect this last desperate attempt to break through our defenses and still cross. e to attack. i'm on it. i hope so, general. i want to clarify one thing, how did i hear what this institute for the study of war was saying. washington is victoria's favorite institute. well, okay, but for the anglo secretary for politics and, as it were, a well-known person in moscow, and handing out cookies completely on the maidan, this is a very exterminated institution. yes.
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here's what i heard. it didn't say that russia was using its strategic reserves. they said that they were moving units from kherson to the direction of the main ukrainian strike, zaporozhye, but i don’t know, uh, if we are talking about moving units from one section of the front to another, then everything i know about the war is, as it were, normal. this is fine. it is normal that certain things happen there to strengthen there. eh, so to speak, you can loosen it up a bit. but er, of course, without repeating mistakes. uh, so to speak, uh , a year ago, what we did on our own in the same raisins in the kharkov direction, and so the transfer of units to strengthen individual sectors of the front. this is a normal normal occurrence. so there is nothing out of the ordinary here . you know dmitry, i read a lot
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of all sorts of, so to speak, these analytical materials. e. american centers like css there uh rand and so on. uh, i'm not talking about newspapers, it's like nework times the washington post everyone writes russia is losing russia is losing is almost defeated. here the ukrainians still have a little bit left. here, put the squeeze on just a little bit, put two more i at 16 and that's it, and the war will end, so to speak, on the terms of ukraine , putin raises two e, hands up and e goes, so to speak, to the borders of the ninety-first. and i don't know for another year. what do they have there inflamed brain? yes, but 913 it would be nice, of course, you are absolutely right that not all of them wrote the washington post new york times lately, then it began to change somewhat. and when we hear, well
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, that e will be offensive. they want to prepare a ukrainian offensive next spring. they thereby, uh, actually admit that their initial hopes that the current offensive would be crowned with great success. and that it will then be possible to negotiate from a position of strength, what are these expectations? and they are like crumbled like sand. and as for the reserves, you said, and what, but on our program before? but in general , a lot depends on the competition in the reserves, and i see no signs and no assertions. western countries that russia is transferring e parts of its strategic reserves. but the fact that ukraine transferred its strategic reserves, in my opinion, this is a fact is a fact, but i understand this when they say the strategic reserves of ukraine
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when it comes to two or three brigades. well , of course it's big. do you know the assumption from the point of view of military science, there are reserves , no, there are no others, therefore this operational tactician is an operational reserve at best, then the tactical reserves that they are trying to concentrate on the intended direction of the main attack. and now it is no longer discussed. before , they said all this, zaporozhye is there, melitopol is all a snag. this is misleading, but in fact, if it hits from artyomka, it will go there and go to the sea of ​​azov through mariupol, this is no longer being discussed at all. because there, uh, well, the situation is completely deplorable for them, you know, general. i will never argue with you about what reserves to call strategic, what operational? it seems to me that we both agreed that russia did not use its reserves of this kind, but
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ukraine is already using this one, and what, according to the competition with reserves? and while ukraine is losing this completely , i have no doubts about this, despite the fact that the american press and think tanks write. ukraine is losing and it is, in general, on the verge of, on the verge of complete collapse. well, while ukraine is on the verge of, uh, complete collapse, and they kind of want to compensate for the lack of success, uh, on the battlefields, where it really matters, and they, uh, want to compensate with some of their strikes, even not on military installations on the territory of russia a. well , i don’t know how to say demonstration attacks, maybe there is in the case of expression. i don't know him yet, and there
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are a lot of these attacks. this is primarily, of course, drones, uh, but not only today there are reports, but that ukrainian artillery struck a village in the bryansk region and their victims, including a child. and it’s interesting how, uh , ukrainians, and the ukrainian leadership substantiates all this. let's listen to what podlyako's adviser to zelensky has to say about this. today, it is absolutely still today there is absolutely consensus that we can destroy everything russian, for example, in crimea, i will remind you a year ago, and even when there were some strikes on crimea, everyone said no, no, let's, only without this today there is absolutely consensus the same quantity countries that support us, that we can destroy everything russian in the occupied territory. and konstantin dolgov is a senator and a former high-ranking diplomat. that's
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when uh talks about the concept. at least i don't see any evidence. what do they say in washington, brussels, london to ukraine, and that it is impossible to strike at those territories? which russia unequivocally considers to be its own begin with the crimea of ​​donbass, so i don’t see any signs that someone is saying to ukraine that this cannot be done, that concerns those territories that were within the borders of the russian federation in 2013. dota before crimea and part of donbass were especially in it, these territories are also being hit, and the ukrainians, of course, say that they are doing it. using their
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drones. i am not convinced that, firstly , this is so, because, as i understand it, these drones have electronics that they themselves cannot produce in ukraine yet, but secondly. yes, let's assume that they produce it themselves. excuse me, but whose money is it? it's obvious that it's all paid for collective west. and so i want to ask you, here's your point of view from the point of view of the former leading diplomat now members of the federation council what role does the collective west play in this war, and you are well aware, the public position is the public position that they are not involved. but uh, if you look at their real actions, my main interest is, as i'm sure, uh, most people who live in russia are interested in what are the consequences for russia of these
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actions? can the russians consider that these 50 countries supporting ukraine that they are in in general, let's say, so they sympathize, but still, basically they are observers. i don't think that this is a convincing position for you. no, of course not, dmitry e. well, here, i will return to the statement in a nutshell. mm, maybe a slightly different angle. let's look at this statement. it seems to me that he is not so much broadcasting the e-wishlist of the kiev regime. or what position or the kiev regime, he broadcasts the american position. what are the americans doing now all the time, especially intensively they smear with blood uh first of all, they smear their european allies with the blood of civilians, which schultz declares. well, there i don’t take this anya lena from him, so to speak, there’s a strange woman’s minister of foreign affairs there,
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it seems, she’s fighting with us, but he’s vice versa , he states that no no all the actions of the german federal government are aimed at avoiding germany's involvement in the conflict with russia, approximately the same statements. e from paris from rome there with small variations of these topical americans smear all the blood. no step back, don't step aside. and this is fundamental . there was at least one refutation from at least one european capital. after the words of podlyako, i would n’t and won’t and won’t be, no one will give the americans, of course, they won’t make sense. what's the point of all in one line? and this is very important from the point of view of geopolitics. this is important, because the americans will eliminate any last quasi manifestations of some kind of quasi autonomy, so to speak, on the part of their
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allies. what we have heard lately, there were reports that allegedly kiev agreed with nato well, when we talk with nato read, the united states, there in nato all the other extras, well, payers. that the conflict will continue for another year? what does this mean? let's see what happens in a year. and in a year we will be closer. well, not so much us as america will be approaching its presidential election. it's not simple. this was not said, 2 years , half a year was said for a year. this means that all our analysis predictions were absolutely correct . the americans will have the biden administration do everything to delay it. uh, it's the military
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actions before the presidential election, there is a whole spectrum of goals pursued. it is, of course, a cut. this is understandable support for the american military-industrial complex, which finances the democrats in particular. part of it, anyway, and this, of course, is of course a mandatory distraction from domestic american problems. this is ukraine, which we talked about factors of ukraine, a factor of foreign policy in the american elections. therefore , additional ukrainian soldiers will be thrown into this furnace. by the way, this was a very interesting message. so between the lines passed, in my opinion, today i watched somewhere in the news that there is one of the leading e-mobile operators in ukraine, they are holding a rally in support there. the families of the fallen. e vushnikov. here they are talking about four hundred thousand dead. by the way, these estimates approximately coincide with some western ones. if i'm not mistaken, israeli
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estimates too. that is, these are all approximately the same numbers are called. these are just the dead. eugene, in my opinion, is one to three, wounded somewhere. yes, so to speak, we will be there, well, approximately 1.5 million people with disabilities. they give already more than 1.7. and some estimates, so to speak, were, so to speak, that there are about seven million disabled people in ukraine. but even if you take it there, someone mows down under this under this status, yes, and so on. this is a huge number new people will rush into this firebox. at the same time they will float there. these are their idiots under the guise of mercenaries who are not needed on the streets of london , paris, berlin and new york. which, so to speak, are needed there, which let them die there. thus, fueling this conflict is what the americans are doing. it's purely american game if here european interest and
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none but no one to say anything, no capital. now it can't. uh, it’s clear that strategic is what we said in the first part strategically. that’s all, of course. for example, i am personally absolutely convinced that in the next month or two we will see a very serious strike from our country on ukrainian troops in the most different ways. i think a lot of things will be applied there, so to speak. and i will simply recall the words of our president and supreme commander. we haven't started yet. he is not these words corrected, he did not correct his assessment. we haven’t started yet, so there are some signals there now. well, no doubt we were all, as i understand it, that's all of us present here, we were at the army forum. we looked, so to speak, there are some new samples. eh, weapons, so to speak, yes, there are also equipment, means of communication and other things that
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will be, now we are increasingly using them more actively. it says what the strategic depths are about. as you rightly say, kiev does not have, in general, even if they put it now. they'll put it there tomorrow some f-16. this will not change the strategic picture. yes, it can make some certain tactical adjustments , right? what is work on the uh absolutely right so to say, yes, this is how much life is already required for this work on the e, from the ukrainian side. how much did they put more than 50 thousand for artyomovsk? it's just the dead. these are very modest estimates, which means that they do not feel sorry for the ukrainians, americans, 20 million there, so to speak, is there anyone else to pick up there? yes? by the way, we remember the wehrmacht for the entire forty-fifth year recruited disabled old children. there was a hitler youth , so to speak, even there to say, is there something to do, so to speak, in kiev, who
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to recruit? i mean, on the territory controlled by kiev, this will be done for the sake of this game of theirs. this is their big game, as they see it. and no doubt no doubt they understand that the us presidential election the election is a milestone. because if by falsehood by justification he will not be able to do it by falsehood. biden wins or democrats win if the bytes are on her out of the game, right? then they, of course, they will have cards in their hands, they will continue to look, how should they, how should they be? how much to finance how much to throw into this furnace? there and so on if they lose. well, to be honest, all of a sudden, to be honest, they will hold presidential elections in america, well, for a change, as they say, so to speak. like this, uh, suddenly the first time, yes. then they lose the democrats as of today and then. the entire ukrainian strategy will
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begin to change. she won't change overnight no illusions, but it will change 100% not in favor of kiev, they will begin to hand over them. this is absolutely perfect. we will talk about the ukrainian strategy, how the american elections will affect it in a few minutes, but now i want to ask alexander dugin about another continuation of the conversation that we had . and this is how they fight or want to fight to the last ukrainian alexander does not feel sorry for the ukrainians. and i do not believe that they are all responsible for what is happening. i'm not even sure most are responsible, but i think you won't be offended if i i will say that i am still more concerned about what is happening as a result of this war with the russians. and that's why i'm very interested in the statement
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, which i increasingly find in the american press, about how vain it is to take into account some russian red lines, which, by the way, russia has never voiced. and that, in general , with respect to russia, you can do almost anything and get away with it, and once you get away with it. you are not only possible, but therefore necessary. here, let's see what u say about this recently one of the authors. washington post, which i'll talk about in a few minutes, let's listen. it's hard to remember now, but at the beginning of the conflict in ukraine, the west was desperately afraid that strikes on russian territory would be the crossing of red lines. this will force putin to raise the stakes sharply. it is even possible to use nuclear weapons. recent years have shown putin to be rational enough, despite his sternness, but the baidan remains concerned about what might provoke him. what else can explain the indecision administration on the issue of supplying ukraine with f-16s
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and unwillingness to send long-range tactical missiles, attacks or unwillingness to challenge the russian blockade of the black sea in all three cases. the white house is trying to play the safe game, but what it's really doing is prolonging the conflict and ruining the odds. kyiv for success. the baidan administration is to be commended for allocating more than $43 billion. as a military aid to ukraine, quite recently the administration. agreed to send badly needed cluster munitions. however, she continues to delay providing other important assistance that ukraine desperately needs a maxbut really influences an influential columnist the washington post is not about a conservative born in the soviet union uh, brought him as a child to the united states and was at first uh, naturally a liberal, then became not a conservative, and uh it was. well, if you want
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the oracle of the republican not about conservatism, but, and then during the trump administration, and trump, as it were, did not satisfy them with his not enough hostility towards russia they went over to the democrats, but i don't know what you think alexandra for me is a dangerous word insofar as it reflects the important sentiments of the washington establishment, they feel that they are doing little more that needs to go further . and what about russia? you want to complain, complain, kidnap kidnap, some calls will be published not to behave like that, but then they will endure, what do you think about this? we have repeatedly discussed with you dmitry on your program my representation of decision-making centers on both sides. remember, we even showed such a scheme on the geopolitical maps of his ukraine, and i emphasized all the time that
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in the west, in the united states, there are two groups that have different views on the situation in ukraine , in general, one of them is represented just with such neocons as maxbut and all neoconservatives. uh, these are former trotsky former liberals who have become hawks just like that of the global unipolar world. that is, they are completely convinced carriers. ah, liberal empires. uh, expansions of hegemony, and they talk about it openly like ferguson , for example, that there should be an american empire; they are not afraid to pronounce the word empire. these are the ultra imperialists. and now they believe that russia is weak, that russia is not wealthy, that russia has exhausted all the answers to the challenge that it faced in ukraine, that russia is loose, that everything is going into very powerful betrayal and decay, erosion within the ruling class, and the absence of a mobilized population that in
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fact russia is close to destruction, and they believe that russia is in this situation. we must finish other representatives are more realistic. they also want the defeat of russia. they also devote huge funds to the fight against russia for the war, but they have a different assessment of the enemy's potential to the end. after all, no one knows in the war, because the war is so important that no one fully knows how, in fact , this is the second force represented in the biden. in this article. this is the force that seeks to help ukraine, but they believe that in russia with what answer, what is the idea of ​​the decay of russian elites and betrayals of all supporters, there are grain deals or immediate pacification by the west, it is exaggerated that there are such people, but they do not set the agenda either in the kremlin or in modern society, and accordingly, russia can deliver a serious painful retaliatory strike in a variety of ways. here between them throughout the conflict, and there is a confrontation. there is another line, as we
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said, those who do not care about russia are the republicans. what is konstantin about and correctly said that they are in general, i don’t mean this, they have other priorities, other goals more interested in confrontation, for example, with china than to finish off russia, and yes. and these three forces are in america well, this is how they were, they exchange approximately the same type of theses, that is, all these theses are endlessly recycled, that is, the events are different, but the discourse is the same, but remember that we were told that there are also those party of victory and the party of war. uh to the bitter end, which i think everyone present in general, who are the majority, coming. the main thing in the program belong. this is our president. this undoubtedly, a patriotic consensus, which , if there was such a thing in society, is the victory party, but there is a peace party that you wanted russia to finish with this as quickly as possible.
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she, too, unfortunately exists and we see her from time to time. these people come in with an open statement about how it dissolves it's not fashionable now to be such a, semi-traitor, i don't know why a traitor. well , we certainly have a party of traitors. so here are each of these six positions spoken throughout the swamp. here is a year and a half of this wars in ukraine, but not from ukraine, the same thing is here, what you correctly said about what is the fate of ukraine and ukrainians. she may or may not be us. it worries me compared to our own fate with our people and our country, but i can't help but notice that i get the impression that there is some kind of plan for the genocide of ukrainians. and this is not a plan in moscow . this is not our plan. it's their own plans, because that's all they do. and the kiev khonta, the kiev nazi regime - this is actually the destruction of the ukrainian people -
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this is the real they invented genocide. destruction of industry, destruction of technical infrastructure, destruction of the local population. and now it can be said, so that there are such cases even in the animal world, when suddenly fish or whales are thrown ashore in droves and die there , there is some kind of freud has such a concept, and the muzzle is the desire for death. i think that this muzzle yes is covered by the ukrainian population. they are not only us. they see. here i am when i sometimes look at their programs. i see that they are each other hate. they have no, no self-love , no pity. they live exclusively with hatred, and there is already something pathological in this, maybe not only someone else wants to destroy the ukrainians, but i get the impression that they have now fallen into a state of craving for death, that this people people society wants one to
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be no more for that matter too. sometimes you even think, but we are not like that at all and we don’t want this, we want to win. we want to eradicate the nazi regime, but we don't want to that this people should not exist at all, and it seems to me that he himself wants that they should not exist. there are very terrible things here, in my opinion, launched in ukrainian society. look, they say that they are nationalists, but a nationalist should , if he simply followed to strengthen his country, increase its territory, strengthen it, but thanks to these nationalists, they crimea, then donbass, and then also lose all of ukraine, like these are some special nationalists, you still agree . uh, they weren't nationalists when they had everything and here, please, please. rejoice after the ninety-first year. you got what you couldn't dream of, that's your nationalism. and you started destroying it yourself. that is here. i think that this craving for death, to which we often, perhaps, underestimate, but the power of psychological epidemics, in
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which entire nations fall, and in contrast. by the way, there from the same nazi regime. there , too, there was a complex psychological picture, but they really hoped for victory, what we are dealing with is just an act consistent mechanical destruction of the ukrainian people, i want to say, let's stop. well, not not us, we are his executioners. on the air, a big game they wanted to say something to konstantin, literally two comments, if possible, who this junta is now, the kiev junta really has nothing to do with nationalism. it is necessary to confuse nationalism and banderaism bandera was kept by the wehrmacht bandera shot ukrainian nationalists, and he shot them in thousands, then they ended. in fact, ukrainian nationalists, and then there were bandera, bandera, nothing from them. the concept is not
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independent. ukraine is ukraine anti-russian. but as part of a large country, then it was germany, as they considered the future winner now the united states , that's their mentality and there is no other mentality there. and since they did not leave descendants, so to speak, they all destroyed ukrainian nationalists together with their children. oh, and in general, the bandera people were very fond of destroying children. ah, uh, about our society. i wanted to say absolutely right they said, so to speak, that there are different points of view. i'd just like to say that i think we're all here, we're all in favor of a speedy completion of the operation. all question how? and this is the distinguishing feature of the patriots of the russian patriots today, that we are with you all the completion of this operation and this war
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of victory, victory, which will guarantee our security, guarantee punishment for what happened today, in particular, when a child died, civilians died in the bryansk region. and the destruction of the threat from this territory, which today is called ukraine still. well, part of the territory that is called ukraine. that 's it actually. and the sooner the better , the west wants to delay. well, the united states, for obvious reasons, discussed this with zelensky and the clique, because this is their rosender. this is theirs. they feed on it as soon as it ends, they are finished . how did the end come in saigon for this saigon glue, where are they? who did not have time for a helicopter, he threw off. therefore, this is what is on this board, but what is faster, of course, just wanted to be faster, it seems to me that we are all on one wave so to speak, well just a question now never here sometimes so to say.
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they ask questions simply, but in a domestic situation. and when will it end? yes, it's not a question when and how and how, and so, of course, it is necessary soon. well, you know, uh. i also really want that sooner, if this is done correctly and moreover, i really don’t want an escalation and i see, uh, like the general us repeatedly, he warned very serious and unambiguously negative consequences if the escalation reached tactical nuclear weapons . well, here's what worries me. uh, what worries me is that people like maxboot. and unfortunately, people in western governments, they are more and more, if you want in the world, illusions, it seems to them that if russia has not done something, then this is because russia either does not have the opportunity,
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or russia will not dare and that , respectively, they can e act, but if you want in a world of impunity, and they are, for example, very dangerous themselves they convinced themselves very dangerously they convinced that if they created an organization called nato and in this organization. there are rules that an attack on one, if an attack on all. that is means that they have developed a new international rule that prohibits russia from responding to the actions of nato countries and that, therefore, russia will not dare to hesitate. and that they can do whatever they want, and you general warned us about, uh, what serious consequences could be if these f-16 aircraft fly from airfields on the territory of nato countries, so i really don’t want
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to on this occasion, washington or brussels had illusions that this could be done with the presumption of impunity, what do you think dmitry i, first of all, saying, returning to what podolak said about the crimea well, firstly, let's say they are trying to strike. let there be single buckets there let there be a series of drones, but they are all intercepted and destroyed there were several, so to speak. well, literally two or three. e hit when they caused minor damage to infrastructure there. eh, crimea, but nonetheless. you know, after all, from my own experience, i think that despite the fact that there is a red line, they have never been voiced, especially by our president and defense minister, but, uh, communication channels. in
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in any case , the ukrainian woman works between the chief of the general staff and the chairman from time to time, they still communicate, and i think that they are still certain. so to speak, e signals to the american side. well, if they go for something, then it will be something, it seems to me that this is what russia is doing for the time being, that it is delivering strikes in the same kiev, so to speak, well, on the outskirts of infrastructure facilities, there is energy in warehouses military facilities were struck there at the headquarters in the intelligence apartment of ukraine. this is still not what could have been. uh, in any case , no serious blows are inflicted on, uh, the capital , just as serious blows are not inflicted on critical infrastructure, such as bridges, there are
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tunnels, which we have already talked about more than once. if, uh, kiev escalates, well , of course, with the permission of the americans, all these conversations, what determines everything, kiev and the americans sit there and only advise. eh, but it does not guarantee at all that their advice will be heeded all from the evil one. this, of course, is all complete nonsense. and what they so to speak, began to act in accordance. uh, with american newfangled concepts and doctrines. there are battalion tactical groups. we talked about it a lot. eh, that's all. eh, so to speak, the americans work out, in general. ah, a strategic goal. the e of the united states was e to check the combat capability of the russian armed forces. uh, high-intensity conflicts in the local theater of operations without the participation of the americans. they are very happy that a ukrainian is dying. they
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only supply them so to speak. weapons and that not in the quantities that, so to speak, well, theoretically they could. therefore, i still think that if we talk about a possible escalation, if the americans nevertheless decide on this escalation, well, probably simply from despair, because it really hurts in on the eve of the upcoming elections, uh, losing big again after afghanistan, probably, for a canoe, this will be for the democrats. it will be a very very big, so to speak, political blow, but nonetheless. uh, i think they understand that if they go to this escalation, then this is fraught with an unpredictable result, because, uh, i have no doubt that the political will of our leadership of our president will be enough to strike at, uh, adjacent territories. this country is not a country. this is
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for the americans. this moment of truth will be exactly for the americans to go either to the third world war or still stop, so i still, uh, think. i think, well, you also understand the fifth article, not anyone, but the application of this fifth article after the formation of nato, so to speak, is 11 september, when they announced, so to speak, on the fifth article of a headache. but when the turks , uh, shot down, uh, our plane in syria and, uh, so to speak, russia has not done anything yet, but said that we will respond and the turks. an emergency was immediately called. so to speak, a meeting of the nato council and announced that the couple would initiate the fifth article, so to speak. to which it turned out quite so to say, a clear answer is your business. and so to speak, a bilateral relationship, so figure it out for yourself, so i don’t think that
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the fifth article is like that, you know, like that the constant is absolutely that if we apply, like this, apparently, yes, that is, this is a watershed. yes, i'm absolutely right about that, so well, i'm still, uh, almost sure that the americans will not go for such an escalation. well, i hope, in the meantime, we're off to commercials, come back in a few minutes and i'll ask. eh, alexander dugin as a theoretician of geopolitics about whether there are any other rules of international relations and should russia take them seriously, are we going to advertise? hello i would like to talk to you about the setting. vika i have a plan offers.
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is the game built today is there a bloody game around international relations? well, i know what international law is. but i don’t really understand what a rule is, and in the collective west they are increasingly saying that it is the rules should determine the nature of contemporary international relations. and sometimes it seems to me. that there are no more rules? does this mean that, uh, if something is not prohibited, moreover, very specific in people 's law, russia has the right to act as it considers its own interests, or do you still see some other moral and political restrictions. any system of international law. including rules. how can there be only a lower level right. is this the result of a balance of power or a warrior? well
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, imagine what would be the international right, if the third reich, for example, had not lost, it would, of course, have been completely different, but the coalition of the west and the soviet union defeated hitler established a system of a bipolar world. and these rules and even international law itself, post-war after the forty- fifth year in the xx century. it was built on the basis of these winners, and these winners were created. there, international law and including, including in it, including the rules from it, after the fall of the ussr , a difficult situation turned out that international law remained bipolar as it was created after the forty-fifth year, and, in fact , one of these elements. one of these poles disappeared and the americans began to bring in between through a system of rules, so as not to change it directly , not to start with a big one with international law. they became a system of rules to adapt
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the post-bipolar model to the unipolar world. it was called karat hammer called the unipolar moment. that is , america felt that it was nato the only superpower, because the soviet union collapsed, they began to adjust the system of international relations to this unipolarity. there are many theoretical studies on this topic and rules or manipulations. got it right from now on. that's the law in the country. where sovereignty belongs to only one instance? these are the rules of the decree - the authorities will issue them. so we must consider more than that, if he does not want to issue this decree. she can just whisper call someone there are different forms to get her way if there is one sovereign in the world, and that's what happens when putin came to power and when china strengthened, especially if there are at least two denpins huge powers have thrown this unipolar model with its rules voiced and no
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challenge. first, it is about the fact that this challenge does not just ignore the rules that create the west. but in principle, the entire international system, which has been going on by inertia since 1945, is no longer functioning, because for the americans it is not functioning, because the bipolar world has ended and one polar world has begun. but for us it doesn't work. this is especially clearly demonstrated by brix recently the method itself, which took place with burger what do we think, in order to give a serious status at the right time and build a system of international relations on the basis of multipolarity, we get the imposition of three international rights plus the westphalian system remaining in general from ancient times from the 19th century, when the nation was recognized e, sovereignty nation state. in the 20th century, it has already disappeared ; in fact, there is no national sovereignty, but also this westphalian model, when some kind of small country, like estonia i can say that i don't agree.
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you won't find it on the map there. this is a vestige of westfalt international law, then there was, uh, the second world war, where it was decided , the next one was then in two polar worlds, then there was a unipolar world, which is now ending, that is, several systems of international international law have changed before our eyes and sometimes legal thought the thought of international society lagged behind these geopolitical interests. i think as a result, his politics became the main discipline in order to something to understand precisely, because it is this part of the truth of the law that the international rule is simply ignored and considered. whoever has so much strength, while you have little strength, you cannot defend your sovereign face of a hegemon, some kind of regional or global hegemon, so you are not a sovereign, but only the sovereign who can defend this sovereignty cannot alone. get together and form a group. as it is now , this is what i call hepta the polar world is seven
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civilizations in the world, one western and six non-western. and these six days western. they themselves are asserting themselves more and more, and together they can not only form a sovereign coalition, but also surpass you in many ways, the west is now in this transitional moment geopolitics that considers international law as a secondary design of the real balance of power. why is she so important now? because it describes the situation as it is, and at the level of diplomacy of international negotiations , the rudiments of all these four systems operate, beginning with multipolarity, ending of the unipolar world, the inertia of the bipolar system, which is embodied in the un, is also the westphalian system. that is, in fact , in the system of international law. now it’s extremely confusing and in this muddy war everyone can achieve their own, because all this actually doesn’t exist, you can say in this regard answering your main question,
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of course, everyone now everyone makes his own rules, makes his own rules and can act as he pleases the russians may well believe what i consider the rules of such multipolarity. here. let's try one rule er, voice my own, which i propose for a short discussion. when russia after the collapse of the soviet union gave certain obligations to its neighbors. it was assumed, at least in moscow, that these neighbors would have normal relations with russia that they would not join any alliances against russia and would not, much less, take part in hostilities against russia even if they did not send their ground units.

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