tv PODKAST 1TV August 30, 2023 1:20am-2:01am MSK
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dear friends, we are again with you on the nose of the forty- fifth anniversary of the group on sunday, led by alexei romanov. we settled on the fact that the ninety-fourth sunday experienced on a yearly basis, second wind opened a second birth, and you understand the situation, it was so. despite the fact that already in the ninety-fourth rock and roll were willingly invited to nightclubs . along with the pop artists , they began to write loot in such a way that it was pleasant, a giver of money, and then you clubs bred, then, of course, like mushrooms after the rain, it was terrible funny, we played metelitsa on kalininsky prospekt, and as an audience, we had exactly two prostitutes. well, does it surprise you?
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nothing surprises us for some time now never at all and nothing that we are with you in the ninety -fourth, well, ninety-fifth or what, what else can we note 90 there was a feeling like that, and recently we were talking to someone, what uh? you are climbing a slippery slope at the same time as it flows down on you. uh, liquid clay. uh, it was time, more efforts, well, uh, zero was very a lot of talk. uh, what number does the ruler start with? yes, from zero or from one, and i’m not ready to talk about changes by that time, it didn’t matter to me, because what depended on me. whatever depends on me, i will do what does not depend on me. uh, i'll skip. and you will not reproach yourself, where do i burn myself? i
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already zakaril myself already to me, to be honest, there in a frying pan instead of cooked. but on sunday, the ensemble was invited around the country in the 2000s and 10s. well, we were on tour. yes, we are good there usually this is where such tours, usually it is a society of book lovers. in the city , there are no university cities. there are big playgrounds. well then, let's not deny ourselves, comrades, the pleasure of listening to one more song. what. yes, some songs are comrades ballads hard. and here it’s not holy well, it’s fantastic, as it is said there , it’s not nice, it’s not connected here fantastic that now the cart has been bounced lego
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go. you sing disappointment along the way, we immediately recall the time when everything seemed so to us, it clearly tells you, i'm flying towards you. you can see yourself not on the way. that 's the trick of it all, uh, we were blasting against the current for us in this guitar drums, but just like for all , probably, teenagers of the globe in
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those days, it was a wonderful soul and it is interesting that the groups all arose around the drums always, because listen guitars in leningrad also for 9 rubles. the pickup is growing. that's all. if you are romanov, then you already sing, but you won’t get it anywhere, and first of all, shove the directors of schools , engels bought drums from the city of engels ha ha. well, there was grass. this is another serious matter. this is serious. yes, well, well. naturally, alexey’s question is what you know, we worked for some time in a variety program, so with alik yakulov it was such a violinist from the elusive colorful uncle. what creative plans does the grave have in store for me? i think not. and just refutes. this is a statement
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you see, here's a thing, it turns out. andrey nikolaevich ditty. one came to us scored nonsense. it does not matter to take it, it will come out a little in the rain. kovalenko remember this. well, of course, i remember this, the city of yaroslavl, this is mommy ben, the guys who composed a song about a fun-comotive. this is one such chorus, let's say one verse, exactly, dedicated in my honor.
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yes, and there was also about yegor domatsky, it was about dima krasotkin and about the whole team and about the judges and the cold , too, yes, that is, these are such ditties that they composed in 2002, after the championship season, just almost the second a championship season. these ditties were already spinning and spinning constantly both on the ice rink and in the cars of our fans and hockey fans and in our locker room. naturally, also olympic andrey kovalenko today is a guest of the podcast program, paws we are talking about hockey hockey football a lot of topics because continental hockey is developing and you haven't been seen for a long time. andrei what do you do when you were last on the ice on the ice. last time i was literally this wednesday. uh, i live in the city of yaroslavl and do social work. i include difficult teenagers, athletes and so on for youth policy. what plast opens up for conversation? yes and so, uh, we train
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twice a week on the ice, no one has canceled, but you have to be distracted by nizhny novgorod, where your son plays. he is the top scorer. you thought that you would have a dynasty. you know, when my son was born, i really dreamed that he would follow in my footsteps, but whether there would be a dynasty of hockey players and whether he would succeed in hockey, no matter how much i thought about it, i tried to help him. and what's the best way to do it? how do i see this hockey? yes, in the current situation. well, i would say that it is still too early to say that this is a dynasty. yes, he progressed all these years, starting from the age of 17, how did he get, uh, into the first team of lokomotiv yes, he progressed in the same youth team when they won the kharlamov cup and the world cup, but today, i would say, probably in adult hockey. this is the best season so far. uh, you can see that he has grown, you can see that he has matured,
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but for a good athlete. you must repeat what you have already done. that is, you have to keep your bar you. keep your level and then you can say that you have succeeded as a hockey player and accomplished as an athlete. and if you ride the waves, but as they say, up and down up and down, today this result showed tomorrow there is no talk that you are a good hockey player or athlete. it is hardly possible, but another thing is igor nikolaevich because larionov yes, he created this team and i must say that the second season will be a big test for him, because he already has such charm. it may not be from that hockey that shows the lower but i think that they have already had the test for the first season. and when they just started showing. this is hockey, many skeptics. many experts said that it was not for long, that there was not such a heavy preseason, as we used to see it. yes, and that
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this hockey will end quickly now the team will fall down the team will lose when there is no such preseason really. and it seems that well, it will end, i honestly this is an appearance, that is, the guys worked hard, no matter how hard the preseason was. it was just directed a little differently. eh, in our soviet good times. you have to re -sausage tons of iron there, yes, drag it over to distill. you have to run kilometers there, but there was just preparation, but a little bit of a different plan, then we saw with you what, well, now a month or two will pass. they are certainly rolling in for winter. by winter, they’ll definitely pilaf then, they’ll definitely well, pilaf and iron, as if they were flying there. yes, it's scary, well, fortunately, as they say, they passed the test, of course, always. uh, second year. that's how they say, in which the championship year is harder than the first. why. because everyone wants
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to beat you, they want to throw you off. speedy began to prove that they are stronger than the same, and here igor nikolayevich with the company as well. purely in with leaders. let's name it in full this is a torpedo generic. yes, that is, it will certainly be harder for him, because from the second year everyone will want to prove that their hockey is better than this one, not only me, but also my colleagues have a clear understanding of this watershed this season there is a team playing and there is a team , for which it is difficult to watch, because hockey. well, he’s different of course well, again, there is severstal who runs razin has nizhny who plays attacking ska hockey, with rotenberg there was also quite a lot of bright attacker, as it is a locomotive that is hard to watch this is a far-fetched story or or that's how i feel about it. uh , somewhere. hmm 50 to 50. yes, in the sense that i will explain my 50 uh, we have a team that plays from defense. uh, for one
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simple reason, this is the reason it's been going on for a long time that we have a turnover of coaching staff. and if the coach did not comply. eh, let's say the task that was set. he practically doesn't work anymore. not only that, our coaches can film 5-7 games there, they lost, and rarely, one of the leaders waits for the team to start playing, therefore, therefore coaches are starting to adjust. the most important result is not hockey, but the result that fixed the end of the game was in your favor. but what kind of hockey you show attacking defender does not matter. the main thing, as pyotr ilyich vorobyov said in the nineties, he also worked in a torpedo in a locomotive. yes, he always said, to us, the main thing is not to miss it. we will definitely score one, so the problem here is probably not in the coaching staff. yes, we have a lot of good coaches. we have a
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lot of talented guys and young people and, as it were, experienced, but the leadership of e does not allow them to open up to the end. they are afraid of losing their jobs. and what to do with it? somehow it will change. this is probably more of a question for leaders. are they willing to endure? yet again? let's be honest, looking into each other's eyes. yes, the one who pays, he orders the music. and if there are sponsors, sponsors pay, crazy money there, yes , hundreds of millions per team, that is, naturally, they want to see the result. we are talking about the fact that the regular season was bright and unpredictable, but the semi-final was ska-tska final cska ak bars, in general, at the start it was possible to imagine that such pairs would be. and this is what it says about the fact that, well , a really unpredictable regular season, maybe as much as you like, and only those who, well, who can afford, play in the playoffs. well pilaf, let's say they don't play like that.
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those who can afford, but reach the final of the text, but this is how our hockey happened , probably, here, looking at the last years, that, in principle, in principle, for the top four, let's say, well, for the finalists of the conferences there is west east, yes , fights approximately the same same team, and here you can probably change this tradition at the expense of e, only m. let's just say , the distribution of the hockey players themselves limits the application list. yes, that is , you can’t have applications there, if you have the youth tower and the khl system, you somehow had cruelty there, no more than 70 people. yes, but these 70 people they can play all the time in the first team, no one bothers to turn them around, because we are lucky in st. petersburg. yes, i just wanted to say that we will leave muscat. yes, they have a big shop. at there are a lot of hockey players. although these hockey players play above the league, they could play well in another khl team that is.
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i always say, we have a lot of talented young people, if they are young people, they are 20 21 years old, 22, but why can't they show up right away and play, because the club sends them to the fan club, and they cook there in the big leagues, and will return from the premier league. he back, or stay there, and now see the situation from the other side. both play above the league just need one hockey player, one striker one cunning. one took the second is not, therefore, the second may no longer be revealed. what i mean is that this system pushes our young people a little bit unsettled when they could play in another team at the khl level they have to play above the league and wait for their chance from next season from the second round i will be cross swam, to be honest i don't really understand. why is it necessary? well, on the one hand, to avoid the semi-finals of cska as which has once again been repeated this season, but on
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the other hand, finances are probably a fairy tale, then there is, here it stretches. why are you doing this to understand what guided the board of directors. yes, that is, he was, but there are many statements there by someone, for example, slava fetisov yes, he said that i see no reason to do so. uh, cross playoffs, because it will increase the cost of actually flying you. uh, roughly speaking, to moscow there from yaroslavl, yes, either you fly, you go to yekaterinburg or vladik, or yes, well, to vladik - it’s all the same they are there in the west, that is, they still come across there is another side of the coin. these are spectators spectators never, let's say the east will not see cska in a semi-filo, at most, only one city at best. if they play in the final, they have a chance to see, and see the same sasha radulova in the west. yes, when he will play, uh , in the playoffs, not only the regular season for one match . he came and left, yes, but the fact that he will play two matches there, but at their stadium.
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he has fans not only not only in kazan yes, there are fans in moscow but another country, for example, here we are the second round we have green derby ak bars-salavat will now be ak bars-severstal. that's what's good. well, a very bad severstal today brought a nix, and i will say that it will be interesting there from the point of view of hockey, but then again, if we are talking about spectator interest, here you are, already by or cska ska, too, how the derby turns out. here, too, everyone is waiting, but it will be, well, ok, it will be cska the motorist of the two-point system remains in your neighborhood did alexei morozov, the president of the khl , and he said that we are talking about returning the three-point system what there will be quiet ending matches. well, like that, well, that's all, of course, 1 1 2 2. let's stand anyway, we've already taken a point, and here, too, you see, everywhere we seem to have a double-edged sword, yes, well, i agree with lyosha somewhere that the two-point system gives someone the opportunity at the end. well , strain that he needs glasses, but someone
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just swims calmly, because he already took one there. the most important thing is not the feeling to play and that's it, and that's enough for me, but on the other hand there is the other side of the coin. as i say again. the three-point system gives the opportunity for the teams in the championship to make such a start for themselves that, in principle, they are practically ready by the new year. they are already in pilaf and there were such options. and this is also not to eat, well, because well, we are already we are already in semi-offs. so we can quietly prepare for swimming and not show that intense and that interesting hockey that we could until the end of february, well, we can have our own children. we had a child after an accident. okay, psychological barrier. mark, i
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a discount of 400 rubles. about deadlines. let's talk in the competition, because here, too, there are two points of view already taken for the next season, which we, as usual, start. in september , we are finishing february, the playoffs went on and this feeling that our hockey officials they still hope that we will be returned to the world cup, and therefore in may the world cup is already free. but for now we can only hypothetically talk about it. let's not look at the world cup now , let's be realistic, we won't play in the 24th year at the world cup - this is 100%, and we could do it. ah, the championship, not paying attention to these terms for longer, that is, to increase the number of matches, firstly, to increase the number of matches. second, e play longer. yes, that is, well, now 68 matches we could make them at the expense of e-e maisky there for another 2 weeks there, let's say in may, we could increase them there. well, for example, not 68 there, but 72 at least there or another 74, well, we
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take even ones. yes, we could start not on september 1st, but start mm on september 15th or well, you started on september 1st, but then you end the season there, uh, in mid-march. yes, so that you have just 2 months of sailing, he will move on in may, while we were crossed out and could from the international arena. we could clearly focus on the development of the continental league not paying attention to international matches, not paying attention to international world championships, where are we not called? yes, but it is precisely to work here to improve the quality of the game, to increase, and to increase the number of games. uh, let's say the days of our season so that, well, no matter how it was on september 1 and march yes, there, because many teams do not get in our swims, yes, but six did not. yes, that
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is everything, and so they would have pleased with their ho. to all viewers, at least there until the middle to the end of march, there is another interesting one. the story is a bonus situation that the salary cap is now being introduced into the salary. how do you look at it? is it good or bad in some kind of cancellation schemes? uh. i've always been talking, i'm talking and i'll keep talking, and i myself liked to work according to the same scheme, worked in lokomotiv then played, was in omsk, was in cherepovets, but let me have an average salary, like an athlete, but very large bonuses. for me. this is a big incentive for an athlete. these are bonuses to complete. and when the guys have bonuses. naturally, they are trying to get closer to this bonus. get them. yes, that is, they understand that i work. i'm working. i received additional funds. now we are considering a situation where
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they now want to introduce bonuses to the ceiling, that is , practically limit them to ten percent, and then remove them altogether. here i am a hockey player. i am a sportsman. i have a contract. i have a salary twice a month. what prevents me from just playing hockey to enjoy not to strain, not to pull out of myself there in the last minutes and seconds to win, what prevents me from just playing hockey. i'll get it anyway necessary, that is, you do not earn. i earned it there with my, let's say, past seasons. yes, that is, they gave me to order there for the name or and this season i will say. well, i have been there for 2-3 years. i can go for a year, as we talk with a cigarette to ride. yes, not this most without straining, well, they will score, there is an average number of points, but no one will take my salary. the incentive for the player should be let better wages, you and so on. limit for for hockey players. yes, but
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leave bonuses on an example, we can dear sasha radulov well, yes, what bonuses did he have to get into the top three scorers, what bonuses does he have to get the team into the top? he then gets a personal bonus in order to bring sasha and sign him to ak bars, they had to give a contract twice. you are more involved in social activities. you were a deputy, and of course, you know the minimum wage. eh, in state employees. yes, and how did you explain to them, if these were questions or you now have a question for me. how can you explain to doctors as a miner and teacher, and what is such a significant difference in salaries between state employees and between hockey players salary? well, incredibly different to put it mildly, i would probably answer that in childhood, when everyone chooses their own life path. he understands where he is going. yes? again, let's go like this to become an athlete. you have to go for a very long time. you must
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give up something. yes, that is, boys, girls, went to the disco. and you have training, yes, to school this is clearly a school. it's the same thing, but you train twice a day. you weekends there on saturday sunday, like here, we would have been a young man in due time, we play youth. we have a week of training, saturday, sunday. igor, we practically had no days off. i mean, we're on the move. we are on trips we are everywhere, so living there until , let's say, yes, almost 20 years. i had to deny myself something . but i knew that i had a dream. i want to play hockey. i want to become a professional hockey player. ah. i ended up in the youth team torpedo gorky yes , i played my first match there for 17.5 years. i got into army to the central army sports club my dream came true. i got into the national team when my dream came true, and then i came. ah, some income. yes, that is, i went and went to this, for a very long time, again, using the example
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of my sons, i can say there is kolya yes, who life wanted to become a hockey player, he went to this. yes, there he received a salary of 15,000 rubles. i remember when he got 30.000. he tells pap what to do with her? i say don't know that much money i never had when he got 60 he says damn i i don’t understand at all what she is saying, how it is possible to live on them, - she says - this is generally crazy. and when we signed the first youth contract there, somewhere around the minimum 3 million. yes, in my opinion, it's all right. i've been here all my life, he says i will play. yes, that is. well, these are the emotions of a young man, seventeen, there are 16 and 17 year old boys. now, of course, he has a worthy contract there, and he already understands what he gets money for, but again, so that he can get through it all. that's how i told you, yes, we take his average son, who came 14 years old. i am not an athlete. well, it doesn’t suit me there and i was in hockey and i was in wrestling and i went to basketball and recorded football. well
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, not mine, that's what i'm saying. and what do you want? he says, i want to study. i - says - i will study. i speak then as as his athlete. kolya has a maximum task, you have a maximum task. he completed 11 classes with honors. he entered mgimov. he is studying to be an international lawyer, but he is not an athlete. he chose his path exploratoryly. if you compare them later, of course, this one will have a salary, as in hockey. this will have a salary. how is the lawyer. yes, but he chose it. this path has already been offered to him. go try it, you didn’t want to, so i can probably say here that everyone chooses their own path. in general, it's just really with us and, again, the world's there and we'll see. there is the same situation green company. it's like that all over the world, yes, it's like that all over the world, we're just talking about again. and who gives these millions of contracts, after all, we once played not for millions. yes, we had a salary there, well
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, let's do it, i received it at cska, when i was 21 years old, i received an insert of 120 rubles. i received a plus for the rank of second lieutenant. they also added 110 to me. that is, i had a salary, of course, it could be more than someone else, but i chose this profession myself. here and if to compare. uh, now those times are the nineties. i came to play in tolyatti in the nineties when i was with us in the ninety-fourth year we had a strike, i arrived, in my opinion, there are 2.5 months. i played in tolyatti, believe me. the salaries of those times, they are, as it were, not comparable, that is, if the sponsors are willing to pay, uh, that kind of money to athletes, if uh, the leaders are willing to pay that kind of money, but this is probably also a question of our own reasoning books. i don’t have an answer to this either, because lada is now conditionally returning to the khl and thank god. and there will be big
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contracts for the guys who work at the plant. well, quite different money. well, what's wrong with that? it means to look, but lada turns out to be not a private enterprise. and russian railways is not a private enterprise. that is, again, if we draw a parallel with the nhl yes, then the owner of washington is a business there. consent yes, he can afford it. there is also state money, they go to the big salaries of this football player in hockey. that is, here , in fact, a really very important question, which we constantly raise , namely, which are shown and do not receive. well, it was interesting your point of view about the trade unions now there are no trade unions in the khl , they de jure exist de facto, in principle, no, is this good or bad? i can't tell you for sure. why can i say? only why was there no union? uh, somewhere, maybe a trade union, relaxed a little. yes , everything has already settled down and it’s completely agreed somewhere that the hockey players understood with the agents. why should we? what about being in a union? if everything is already
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done, yes, that is, everything is already in the regulations and these regulations are implemented by the continental league. that is, i think that the first 10 years. we worked very well. we have done a lot for hockey players of what was not there, what they used. yes, for example, well, for example, the payment upon dismissal hockey player compensation. he changed three teams in a season. you signed in the pre-season to a full-fledged contract, you were fired and received 25%. and signed a second contract in another club. you've been fired. november. you have already received 50%. now you play in the third club and get. salary i tell you it's bad. i say this was done by the union because there have never been such conditions before. but nevertheless, uh, it happened like this. i also have the impression that since we have everything, once the work has already been done. why should we stay there?
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well, it's strange, because again, you know very well how the nhl works and how influential the players' union is there. we here, uh, can't have that kind of influence because we've talked so many times. we have discussed many times. yes, levers of pressure on leaders. we do not have trade unions. do you think it is in our country or is it just a specific private story? no, i think it is all, that is, any trade unions. in our country, they act in accordance with the law. yes federal law you can't get away you can't get away there further, however. eh, i've been asked the question a lot. let's strike. here such there infringements so something us. it infringes on us, they don’t give us something they don’t give. i speak, i ask a question. guys let's, let's go on strike, you won't play, you won't train. well, damn it, you will not receive a salary all at once in the locker room at a meeting.
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