stay. well, it's strange, because again, you know very well how the nhl works and how influential the players' union is there. we don't have uh here. there cannot be such an influence, because we have talked many times. we have discussed many times. yes , levers of pressure on leaders. we do not have trade unions. do you think it is in our country or is it just a specific private story? no, i think it is all, that is, any trade unions. in our country, they operate in accordance with the law. yes with federal law you can't go to the side, you can't go further there, though. um, well, i've been asked the question a lot. let's strike. that's where the infringement is. so something hurts us there. they don't give us that, they don't give us that. i speak, i ask a question. come on guys. let's do strikes you won't play you won't train. well, damn it, you won't get paid all at once in the locker room at the meeting. yeah listen, i have a minus a month

so much, i'm not going to play. let's not strike. again, let's not about hockey. that is, here's going around the club, talking to others. yes, there were moments when i talk about the fact that there are problems in this club, they don’t pay money. there it would be necessary, maybe something there to help somehow inspire the guys. everyone asks me a question. listen, this is how i play, let's say. i'm playing akbarse, what do i care about, uh, vladivostok and the admiral, that their salaries are not paid by their problems. it isnot mine. and what do you think, why is it there? really , these unifying structures work. we have this business won't happen. we've talked to you. yes , and you yourself said that there it is business there it is commerce, and everyone understands that by uniting and setting their own conditions, without going out on the ice. after all, the leader is also lost. uh , presidents a certain amount of money is correct, so there are certain

levers of pressure on the same leaders there on the same ones, but club presidents and so on. there are no such levers here, well, yes, i was once told by one leader. he says great. do it says the strike is super. i i say i will save so much money, i say a month and i will report to the sponsor there, what do i look for in a year. i haven't been paid for a month. i saved money. you have them left, that is, here. uh, as they say , we build a different system, we have a different subsidized hockey here, we say that there are state-owned companies, there is a private company that invests in the development of sports. but in america, after all, in the nhl - this is a commercial project, they make money on it. let's do so show and business is two different concepts. that is, we have e we have them then let's, in my understanding, let's break it down, yes, that is, hockey should be a show. yes, where the audience comes, where they come to throw out

emotions, there after a working day. yes, someone is ill there to recharge with positive energy when the team wins, yes, or be disappointed there, but still it will splash out some kind of negative energy. yes, so that you can go quietly there to work the next day. this should be a show. it must be colorful. it must be beautiful. it should be stylish, but business is already another question. what is business in my understanding of business is when you invest money, you receive income; it may be minimal, but it does not cover the costs that are invested. and we have the concept of limit legionnaires. yes, and now then three pigs, well, it's not about the limit, but the fact is that alexei morozov said that the league was against this, yes, what is it? well, not great. this is not for development. in this case, the decision remains with the ministry of sports. a like this in general, maybe, and this also

applies not only to hockey, but also to football , that is, it seems that the lika league is an independent unit of the khl rpl, but at the same time it, uh, completely depends on the decision of the ministry of sports. i believe that if the league itself is a unit, it must itself approve its own rules and it is not necessary to give them approval, but simply for approval. uh-huh that's because we have let's so we get it, we're talking about the development of my understanding. yes, there is some kind of consensus, uh in the negotiations, but always when three independent units are trying to develop the same thing in each vector of development. uh, pointing in your direction. we have swan cancer and pike. we have the ministry of sports, we have the federation, we have the khl on some issues. they agree on some issues, they act as a consolidated group. and on some issues they did not agree, and therefore, therefore, we do not have. sweets, which should

be like this and there are three legionnaires - this is a bust with already meaning. what do you think, if we are talking about our hockey pro-russian, if we if we talk about young people, then we must give them the opportunity to play and give them the opportunity. yes, as it used to be in good times, there are two leading links, the third is the middle one between the leader. and this, well, here it should be somewhere there and there are young guys who should study for a year or two. this is what the team consists of. my opinion, even in the current realities, it has not changed when we talk about foreigners. come on five. come on, three or there were suggestions. let's open the league in general, well, about opening the league from religion . let's go to the sanctions, yes, uh after they removed us from the international arena uh, it was such a negative experience, i don’t remember what years, but i know for sure that in germany , when they opened their league, they poured in.

uh, foreigners flooded all the teams began to compete with each other and the german hockey team, it went almost down. they refused to limit this. again, we must uh clearly understand, they play important roles in the team. they bring results. yes, but they take. uh, hockey, let's say time, yes, on the ice of russian hockey players who with one foot in our team, that is, it turns out here that we give legionnaires so that they bring results in the team, but we cross out some hockey players and do not give them a full-fledged game, then they suffer here, maybe already collectively, but the club receives dividends correctly , while, of course, a good quality, to put it mildly, everything is in order, and this hockey player will no longer be ours in the national team, so

i probably would not say that three or five. i would start talking about what positions these players play and what the club can do to so that candidates in the national team receive full time. we talked about this a lot, didn't we? well, we don't , we don't want middle- class foreigners to come. we want the stars to come. it's great. they make. the result is that young people learn from them 2 yes, but foreigners do not care what will happen tomorrow with russian hockey. this year we have teams that played without foreigners ak bars lokomotiv please, that means enough we have athletes who can show results on the other side ak bars can afford and a slap from gorlitsky and radulov, which gives this result, but again, let's go like this, uh, leave. uh, radulov will leave, shipachev will leave, kagarlitsky will leave, semyonov, these are all

the players who are newcomers. i am from the forwards you will not play in the final. who will play them? i do not know, that is the version of ak bars development vector to date, as i see it, it is to win the cup today. yes, what will happen tomorrow? i don't know. yes, we have promising young people, like voronkov. yes , we have safons there. yes, we have them, but tomorrow they will leave for the nhl who will play? therefore, the development vector of kazan ak bars is to constantly buy certain hockey players above the average level of stars there, or, well, our russian wells, who are in the national team , so that they show results. then why do you need a school, you support a school. you have built so many skating rinks you have nowhere for young people to go to lokomotiv where the eldest played. now the youngest is playing. here the vector of development is a little different. they have a school from a school because of this one comes recharge. yes, they take them. they buy, but they buy them

pointwise, but at the same time, lokomotiv has no result, 100 years already. and this is, uh, the problem is probably not the hockey players themselves in that system . every year they have new coaches. each has been there for a year and a half. yes, the coach came to the old yeast. he worked, then he didn’t show him anything to remove it, how it turns out, like the vector of development is like this, but at the same time the boys have nowhere to go, people don’t win, yes, plus, er, plus. eh, again we are talking about the same youth coming back. yes, just the system when there is no place in the team they are sent to major league and many of them in this major league remain at the level at which we came. therefore, we say that it is a good school. good youth, but there is nowhere to play, because, uh, they take certain hockey players under the result. well, in the finals, returning to the topic of confrontation between the two sports of hockey and football, in your opinion. why is hockey this is not

football, what is there in it, what is not in football, or vice versa, probably more. i don’t even know, i don’t communicate much with football players. now , yes, we used to live at the base in cska football is on the second floor in arkhangelsk, we were on the third floor, we had more communication, more than some, well, shared our impressions. i don't know, it's just hockey for me. he is closer. it is more of a contact sport. there are fewer people there. there are more opportunities, probably to show themselves as a leader well, in my understanding. yes, no offense to the players. yes, they also have an understanding, of course, they have their own leaders, but it was probably easier for me to prove myself in hockey, because after all, football is a playground , you understand that there are 60 that need run through. here, after all, 60 to 30 is the maximum. yes, that is, here, er , it was probably more convenient for me personally. hmm, to play according to

the content according to the structure. but this is the same sport as hockey. yes , you can probably take any sport here, because in any sport, athletes, before competing. they are preparing, they are preparing hard, they go through three functional loads, physical loads, psychological loads. yet again. it is you who should be able to immediately rebuild after a loss, what do you need tomorrow the day after tomorrow go out on the ice again and you already have to do it all forget it in any sport. they're probably the same here. they are similar here. thank you very much for visiting the hockey not football program. this is a paws podcast on first my name is denis kazansky for now.

hello, i'm larisa guzeeva, this is a podcast of letters. today i have a well-deserved guest, actress, director, artistic director of the theater, practice maria brusnikina. hello maria hello. i'm so happy that you came. we also have such a topic andrey vasilievich myagkov and what year did you enrolled finished? here i have been bad over the years, but it was a long time ago that a film about the irony of fate came out. he was a super popular person. eh, and some kind of god for us for all and then you enter the courses. it was the exchange rate. nikolayevich efremov andrey vasilyevich myagkov was a teacher there and also rarely recruited not a leader. no, the next course was, where, natasha was not a year old, he was the leader there, and we acted, he worked. he says that pokrovskaya worked as teachers, and he recruited the main one in efremov, but we had two

groups. and we clearly divided one group was myagkovskaya, the other pokrovskaya. i got into andrey vasilyevich’s group gently crazy , of course, so i’m glad, because he is a teacher from god, i think that this is one of my main luck that i met this as a person. teacher, it’s just that there are some such people, that’s what you have formed and of course, andrey vasilyevich is one of them, but the truth is, when you came to visit him, he insisted that students call him andrey, but this is already we were fourth grade. it was already such that we were already quite friendly relations. and yes , of course, he insisted, especially with the guys there for a day of brusnikin. roma kozyka, he was still a completely young man. now when i understand, then it seemed, oh, it ’s easy at all, but in fact, there was even a little 40 something. yes, that is, an assistant, voznesenskaya is some kind of completely girl. she came to us for the second year. eh, with some inconceivable haircut, as i remember now, such a thought entered. we are skirts, well, just a girl, yes,

well, of course, for us they were teachers, but yes, he directly wanted to consciously, yes, well , the guys call us already such a contact , more than some kind of human close friend. but not me. i'm always very his. eh, somehow. well, i appreciated it. it's clear. it is clear that all the girls were in love, softly, this is understandable. despite the fact that i was already married, there i managed to get married for 18 years. this is a completely different, of course, course for a classmate. the kingdom of heaven to him, but this is some other love, this love for a person is endless, because there is a feeling humor. you know what you know perfectly by the experience. yes, a sense of humor, over the top, uh, wisdom intelligence. uh, some amazing amazing completely human. he was very humble. that's right , you know somehow, but unnaturally modest for an artist of such popularity. that's when i was filming with him, but he was the age and my mother, and i

could not even imagine. and what about an actor of such popularity of such magnitude? i tried to be invisible to everyone. so i never saw him, so he told jokes there, or he, yes, well we were going to, and we had burkov filmed georgy , who talked all the time. uh, anecdotes , some stories all gathered around them. andrey vasilyevich was always somehow apart even when his wife came. so the two of them went somewhere, and it was so organic. this is not something that did not irritate or raise any questions. well, you just watched with some admiration. yes you are right. this is incredible. not just modest, but a very private person. absolutely introvert is a very strange position in this. here in this profession, really. yes, there, as a rule, some other people, another way of existence. no closed indefinitely. well, he opened, probably, he opened with us with students. here are our all sorts of nightly

gatherings at their homes, unlike you students. e. andrei vasilievich sassi was never invited to the house to journalists. yes, we are lucky for you. yes, but that was the period. here, when we were students, then less often, then it was rather difficult to pack. later it was already quite difficult to ask for a visit. they are completely closed as if the house was closed. explain, this is for yourself. why are they such a closed incident, there was some kind of self-sufficiency between the two of them. yes, there was some kind of rejection, maybe of what is happening around. yes, that is, after all, andrey vasilyevich is quite no, then, already, when it began. later, the perestroika age was already when and after the departure of oleg nikolayevich efremov yes, some kind of life was already so closed. and how they had at home, what would they have. it is too. we will be students there. here we are in this apartment. well kutuzovsky prospekt is also very fashionable and stylish. so, i remember that there are few white walls, who did it then. yes, everything is hung

with paintings by andrei vasilyevich, he is even still an amazing artist. just amazing and very strange too. he's the same here, too. we are talking about this modesty , closeness, such intelligence of the intellect , the picture is insane, simply insane. here is his vision of the world, it is so colorfully distorted , some kind of peculiar perception. that's all about portraits. he has a lot of portraits there oleg nikolaevich efremova, uh, and. he's looking for caricatures. yes? yes, that's all. uh, very how to say? well, not not realistic, art is definitely all hung with his paintings. everything is very stylish , very fashionable house, anastasievna was very comfortable, absolutely amazing hostess, and i remember it is amazing. she loved it when we came and received us. here's a higher grade. i mean, it's great booze, great food from the market. and as i remember , you understand some incredible little things, and i remember how i was entrusted, and i'm not very economic. frankly speaking, it was not ordered chop some parsley. and i mean,

unlike you. i'm not very economic. i love this parsley and it comes later. why are you doing this? i'm talking like a stems. why chop, cut off these. these are their little things . ruby remembered for the rest of his life that the ground of parsley must be taken out. even though she had no idea. that is, she is such a top class, and we were always fed and treated to all these endless conversations all night long. they were also very educated people. andrey vasilyevich read a lot, and some of them all the time, you know, you notice a stream of surnames of this do you remember what you need to read, what you absolutely need to know? what do you need to navigate? that is, they were educators. well, not only in the profession, but although in the profession for me, of course, andrey vasilyevich, uh, how to say? well , he didn’t form it, yes, he helped me a lot because i was very afraid of oleg nikolaevich efremova, and in general with him. and he even had some kind of authority for us. just crazy and they could normally exist with him. here are the

older guys who were there, here are the fucking goats lingonberry infections we had such a team, yes, yes, we are all the same friends. ah, the girls were all little after school, and of course we were afraid of him. well, the head of the centurion, who was not afraid of anything, but she came later. she, too, was yours, yes, but she, as it were, moved after the academician to us later and there was an incredible fear, but softly. he, since i was still in his group, and i understood that he treats me very well and felt it, and he, of course, he was incredible with me, i hated sketches there. uh, i could be doing this and something i didn’t want didn’t work out, and i said, i won’t leave. he kicked me out of work. i sobbed, so i went expelled, it was a very funny case when i finally came up with the idea of ​​​​flying to courses. well, how is it, like? here it means you entered something happened. and you change. i say sasha sasha nikolaevka is an excellent theater actress on maly bronnaya now sasha says, come on. here we are with you in the audience. i punch you in the face. you cry and we leave.

here are the events, and we entered, i jumped her into evolutionary sobs and myagkov is like that. well, now on the contrary, i remember it very well. that is how he brought us up. so he helped me a lot, because he took acting work with me in the second year. it was metel tsvetaeva and i was given the role of an old woman. it says tsvetaeva the old woman throughout the 18th century. i cried a lot. why they gave me an old woman was terribly worried that the girl has all the heroines, and i'm an old woman. and here he is with me in verses like tsvetaeva is clear, and now he was very tormented with me, because i understood everything inside, but i couldn’t get to that one, and on that volume to the latitude that he needs and that's how he was already jumping in front of me and showing me everything just with his hands everything, as it should, and at some point, apparently, and he told me, well, that's what else i have to do, so that you played something to me so i felt ashamed, i took it and played as a result with plus skill, but it’s myagkov, he

turned some kind of lever in me, that i started to open up, open up, or what? so this will turn out to be delicate, but i wasn’t in my head, in general there were zero brains from the word at all, when we were shooting with him, and i understood that he was old. well age my mother uh and somehow hmm well, he wasn't brilliant, he didn't take care of course, everyone always looks at young artists. andrey vasilyevich no, it's not that i was afraid of him, but i, uh, always gathered in his presence. here he somehow stricted me with his presence. here he was guarding and he could whisper something like that to help at some moments to suggest. here it is, yes. yes, i remember such a good word strozhil. he also stricted with us, for example, we were not allowed to laugh out loud, because here you're sitting there reacting to someone who 's playing something and ha-ha-ha. well, such a tough friend.