health, well, a strange mission, strange months , because then she refused to play. well, she just was. i understand that, for example, i also don’t like to play now for a certain period when you get tired of it, and she, as far as i understand her, is also narrower. well, it's grown. this is a resurrection. you understand some kind of role that would e correspond to its inner e message to some inner search. already when she was and was not in old age, and it is unlikely that she, as a professional, understood that she no longer had the strength for this, then you understand me vasily ivanov vasily borisovich ivanov how we are friends with him. he told me, he tried to be lazy in autumn green, by the way, they were friends too, they played together in a foundling. yes? yes, yes, yes. this is her script. eh, green.

yes, i fire barto yes, yes, but they all argued, then because of this phrase i promulu, each authorship, tried for half an hour. faina e provided. yes, i think so. uh, so they tried, and why is she not the people's artist of the ussr ranevskaya, by the way, was the people of the ussr and she had three stalin prizes. well, when does it mean, uh, vasya did not tell how he raven vasilievna, we were filming the dogs were trying. e her to initiate so that she becomes the people's russian ussr, she told him, i'll be offended by you. i will not talk to you, because she understood her place, the form in which she exists, you understand, and she agreed with this form. yes, but ranevskaya, i think, did not agree with her form. why doesn't she

agree? she's always been a leading lady, i don't know, i mean, from what she wrote, but you're questioning, of course, uh, the authenticity of those lyrics. yes, however less. i have a feeling that she constantly hears this motive of dissatisfaction with her fate - a question. well, as you say theatrical fate is a question. this is not satisfaction. e, this is a demanding artist, as pushkin says, not only in this matter, it seems to me, it seems to me , here she is, true, she didn’t play out very much , i think that she was so dissatisfied with fate. no, well, look, she herself wrote about her youth, that this is the cemetery of her roles that she played in the twenties. there inside is the beginning of her career, how much she replayed in these provincial theaters. it's all gone, as if without a trace in the sand. further , in the thirties, she already begins to play in moscow but this, well, in a donut, she is beautiful. wednesday, yes, they can not this film, and she learned, as they said, yes, french, a few special phrases. she even pronounced them in his text and one of

the french watched roman or someone there and he admired this game, because by the movement that he saw french speech. this is revealing. she is truly incredible. yes unique potential unique and on and on that and on these soviet films. they are very cute beautiful, by the way, the movie. uh, the foundling is interesting in that it echoes from your film. and i'm walking around moscow because i'm walking around moscow because moscow is shown here and there in one day. yes, that is, the heroes are moving around moscow for one day, it says, great film. here is our viewers, you can say, if anyone has not seen or reconsider, because here is moscow 30 foundling yes, well, your film is shown more often. he more famous. he sounded foundling so a little bit, except for this phrase he went into the sand. here is a look at moscow in the thirties, there is a double-decker trolleybus, for example, traveling yes in moscow yes, in general, these people are a wonderful wonderful film atmosphere, but it is

more than this film. well, i agree with you, but i think it's okay. it is possible to dream only that the audience, and she had it there, she was on the spot in the film by mikhail roma dreamed of a wonderful part. here she already has weak work in the cinema. well, nothing, well, what is it such a movie, where uh? yuri vasilievich , i'm leo, amazing artists, there's some kind of dry cleaning there, though. and so she rislav janych, called a hack, because he worked a lot on the radio, but she herself still agreed, probably, some circumstances. maybe the money was needed. i don't judge at all. actor. not everyone has videos that he is very proud of. you see, she is still different in her, a lot of things were so she as a person, she really managed to win everyone. it seems that fate drove her into some corner. i won't give. i will not give you this role. this

role she just had you what, and she was absolutely. speaking with today's language, it was directly a completely different question. she never worked out. uh, power in the theatre. here vera petrovna maretskaya is also an outstanding lump, but she is yuri alexandrovich to zavadsky. ah, she was his wife. his son was helping to build a theater to run a fan theater, he says he never did this. she existed separately. here is a separate one. uh, raquefort is such a sir, which is not for everyone, you understand at the same time in our theater, zavadsky's right hand was irina sergeevna anisimova wolf, director, and she is also the ex-wife of the factory mother irina sergeevna in pavel wolf yes, her friend is a close friend of hers and a mentor in every sense

rina sergeevna had a son alexei, which means that ranevskaya lived with them in at home for such a part of the week, she lived with them, and part, that means at home, and therefore she called alexei ersatz. nuk, he published a book in his book , he writes that i came to change bed linen for fondue. she then already lived on alexei street. tolstoy and a, it must be said that she, uh, slept on top. and then alexey came, and he , as he writes there, began to change the sheet, and so he bent down and lay down. eh, i tucked this sheet up to the wall there, and forelgievna was in a nightgown. elderly woman. she stood at the door. and she looked at him like he was making the bed and then said.

when lyosha is gone, they will say all sorts of things about us, don’t believe it, alyoshka, he put it very delicately on this topic. it seems to me that the thirst for love, there was a huge paradox of it, and is the answer. why did she become the idol of our time? i don't know how she felt about it herself. but she was very ironic and most ironic. that's all these jokes of hers, they are all on the verge of a foul, you can say when she is aware of this case, when she just appeared in moscow and saw her on the street in the center there in a stroller, which means stanislavsky and she ran after him and shouted, my boy, my boy, by the way,

that's a myth, here i don't really see something, it looks like her. well, maybe, but, and i like her story more, is it true or no? why, at the end of the thirties , she was invited to you in had judging by everything, after the death of stanislavsky, and she, therefore, came to mirovich, dachanchenko, he crumbles in compliments. that's it, she agrees and wants to work for you at the hut, and then she leaves, she says, nemirovich-danchenko. and thank you very much vasily petrovich vasily petrovich thank you very much. and when she calls there the next day, they say that nemirovich-danchenko changed his mind about taking her. e to the moscow art theatre. i don't know if this is true or not, but at least history is very busy. it fits with her essence with her character. she specifically made a reservation. in that case or not. i think not, not on purpose and such a random slip of the tongue. i think it's a slip of the tongue, but where her intuition worked, she didn't have

to work there, that is, her intuition turned out to be smarter than she actually is, and, uh, will do something. i understood this, she has an amazing role. here is manka, they beat the churchman in a storm, and then he was just super. yes, it is true that people came. just look at her and left the factory. it pissed off not pissed off. and he realized that he threw out the episode later, because it turned out that people came for the sake of this episode. uh, and then they left and it was, well, it's an uncomfortable situation for a performance when a significant part of the audience leaves. well, evgeny yurievich you can talk endlessly about faina georgievna, and you know what i want to say. when i write books for the life of remarkable people series, i always consider it my task to demythologize my heroes, that is, to separate the myth from the truth. here in in the case of faina georgievna, i absolutely do not want to do this. and i like that she's a myth and they keep making movies. they

continue to argue, and in this it is definitely her victory. victory of her as an actress . victory of her as a woman and victory and her as a person. yes thank you very much for this thank you conversation for these memories. it was a podcast life of the wonderful with you alexei varlamov, writer, rector of the literary institute. thank you hello dear viewers on air podcast melodies of my life. i am leading this podcast valery syutkin today a wonderful bright artistic artist rodion gazmanov rodion came to visit me hello dear.

it’s very nice to see you mutually here and together with our podcast, and we will be happy to learn about various details and events in the life of rodion gazmanov, but we will do this through melodies, because the melody is the best keeper of memory heard the melody and down to the smallest details . i want to remember something, and what we don’t want to remember, we won’t remember it. here exactly. well, always the first. uh, in our podcast, the melody of childhood. here is the first suck. this does not mean that right in your childhood you listened to this song to the holes, you just ask. and what sounded for the young rodion listen, well, the song that most of all asses me from childhood is the song that i will always be asked at concerts now, because yes, because it was my first such stage debut, and the stories associated with it great amount. uh, at some point when i retired from music. there in the summer

somewhere at 13:00. my voice began to break , or it was at 20, when i studied at the institute, i decided to return. we started playing corporate parties, and people were interested, they sang something there and i had a terrible dislike for this song, because everyone always remembered it, they always asked me, i decided not to sing it at all, they warned me right away. lucy we don't sing and i had uh a director back then, uh, who is so very commercial-oriented diplomacy. and he says, let's do it differently. we will say that we do not sing, but we will say that he gave birth to her does not love, but for separate money. you can and called some kind of horse. yes, he called such a horse project, so that people immediately, so that people would not be ashamed to retreat. we played with some gold miners. uh comes up somewhere in the middle of the performance. i have a lot of original material. we played it, in principle, we liked dancing there, but such a little bit already a very cheerful person comes up. i say, heaven, come on lucy, the director, we grab it, we're just a and they go off to talk. a minute and a half later

, the director returns with such eyes. in i mean, once we sang three times, in short, uh, i won’t name money, but there is a very important reception itself. yes, the trick worked. like this once, and then one person who is very respected not in the brain said to me, idiot and why i don’t rule it out, but why are people ready to kill themselves because they had a song that they ask you to have such a song and they ask, but you don’t sing it, it’s wrong. i also support your opponent. we must play. i always fulfill and vasya what he asks. and by the way, with great pleasure. a here you remember, that's the time when you performed lucy because oleg uh, dad of my today's guest oleg mikhailovich gazmanov he is. e said he changed.

there was a different name there. and in general, not about the dog, there would be problems with ligaments, but about a girl whose name was lucy, and when the father had the essence of a problem with ligaments, he could not do it all, but had to let out exploit child labor. but just like a child about a girl, he squanders everything. here is your first. we need it now let's play both. here is the feeling. here you sang, probably, at the beginning it was pleasant. i think yes, the issue was not that i didn't like this song. it's just that strangers asked me so many times in childhood, in general, and further. did i find my dog, that somehow faith in humanity was lost. it's about, you know what it's like, it's when we talk to birds as children, and that's it. i want to move on in life, but now all the time, like any adult. well, how are your lucia they are and that's annoying. well, i imagine, i 'll draw a parallel about now, probably, there you sit in a restaurant from this one, like some kind of tea brewed there is very cool. and uh, the waitress

comes over to set. well, like what you need, yes, yes, yes, you turn around, you think, she scoffs and then a successful phrase. it is such luck. well, let's have a small fragment, and i suggest, by the way, to be in time. and the original text of the song lucy well, as you see fit let's premiere the song colored advertisements on the important pavement are trembling. we met her when i was running from the rain, it's a pity there was no time to talk and only what is the name. i asked her name. the performance of

a song older than me was thursday. my director appears in the wings, and to get my attention, do this. i know i'm out and i have 15 minutes to sing. there let's say the prefabricated end. and i only heard the first song . i’m backstage, i’m watching the director stand and show like this, hitting the pocket. i think he wants to tell me. he shows it again. how do i perceive this valera , the money received is finished well, well, roughly speaking, the theater of facial expressions and gestures perceive this i'm just taking a step, dear friends, thank you very much for the warm one. okay, i'm taking a step. he

says, valera, i show you to sing. the main thing guys, do not grow old with your heart, you understand? and after that before going on stage. we began to ask direct if you have grown old in your heart. today, he says, you can work as you get older, that is, at our age, only with an advance payment. but it doesn't matter in life. let's go back to childhood. tell me , after the performance of this song , the parents bought the dog, like the cartoon kid and carlson do you remember where the baby wrapped the dog. uh, i was about nine years old, 10, i guess i asked for a dog. just every day. i bought a german shepherd. there is no serious dog, but his name was korby. and yes, the scottish raven, by the way, is translated and he was a big dog. i was a ten-year-old kid and it's clear who was walking whom, then when it was my turn to buy myself a pet. i chose a cat. it's a maine coon. oh yes. his intelligent name is sheldon, this lynx is

actually quite busy. here is a taken, and walks along the street builds neighbor's dogs periodically red or not. uh like that multi-colored, here are the maine coons, in principle, they have a good character, but they always have one owner. this is the one to whom he allows himself to be fed pills with his need. well , who do you instruct when to leave to feed him? yes, but no, but he is with you, of course, and there are customers pulling real estate, who always feed the cat anyway, here, but he is bored. he does not give views, but it 's easier with dogs, their emotions are always understandably ready. you need to be able to read. and when you understand your attacks, you understand what he is trying to show now. do you understand that you have their gamut of emotions is much, deeper, more intelligent and subtle than that of a dog. i understand that i am a dog in the weather of birth, and my beloved women, she is just a cat in the year of the rabbit and a cat, therefore

it is harder to agree with cats. well, it's great that we remembered. so, through lucy, the childhood of rodion gazmanov and now you are growing up, i understand that lucy had enough and you got a little tired of show business. and now, let's call young rodion gazmanov. maybe this is the melody of youth , that is, the formation of the choice of the further path at the moment of youth when we were formed in me musical taste. i listened to three russian musicians. and oleg mikhailovich gazmanov because i was still writing. yes, but i listened to a lot of leonid agutin, and i didn’t go by rating, but i just left the most important thing for a snack for valery sutun, and yes, here’s an album that’s what you need and an album of radius roads. i listened to holes. yes, i went to study in england, great britain. so i constantly listened to musicians in my room.

eh, i can listen to one album for a week in a row , absolutely i won't get bored. and when the english began to come into my room, he says, au syutkin, i immediately realized that i hear enough of my last name when i go somewhere where there is no understanding of the russian language. uh, i'm very pleased when they tell u to check you in. according to your last name? i say i did not understand initially. and this is royal forces with skirting. again, i ask, i ask, so well, here's the song that hmm, right now i wanted to play, they want, in principle, i can, probably any with uh, well, which comes exactly what i need, i can definitely any radio. there some are more difficult, dear viewers , it's nice that the guest has such a taste, you understand , sometimes they will come, and then it's immediately clear that he understands music, come on, if your eyes get tired, buy it. glasses black glasses, like

brakes for almost everyone you can't be recognized, you can't catch up with them, you can swim and fly. buy buy and wear these black glasses in dark glasses, boredom has been removed. if you want, you just don’t blind your eyes and take off your glasses. no hurry, by the way, i want to

tell you. this is the first song, the first one that i and igor balash with a guitarist. we were on tour. he replaced evgeny avtan, sometimes in bravo and igor took with him such a small port-studio and says, you compose music, well, yes, well, since as the author of the text, maybe some one says, just come on, so that it doesn’t look like. i love this kind of funk. there, and that was the first one. i immediately was such a hot summer and right away i saw the subject, you know the associations. and why not make such an advertisement for them, then the director immediately told me, it is necessary to contact someone. yes, and sell points did not come out. yes, at other times was, and hell, well, the song, and the song remained such a very pleasant memory. dear

friends, you are watching the melody of my life podcast on channel one. i'm valery syutkin , my guest today is rodion gazmanov. but how did the music call me back. this is the decision point. many people do not understand, if you are born in the family of a famous musician, they think there are only pluses. in my opinion, there are much more cons, because you go through this, well, comparative spectrum all the time, no matter what you do. it should be two heads taller and something in your repertoire that you can take as a compliment. there are at least 2 m strong hits. this is in pairs in parallel and the first gravity. yes, yes, and thank you, and i want to say this on my wave, they are like that. well, gravity is i first write a song, and then i analyze. why did i write it

like that, that is, there to get somewhere in style. and i also have two associations in the song of gravity. here are two such references - this is natural, valery syutkin and the leap year group. i i remember, yes, it turned out to be some kind of stylistic fusion and which i realized after i wrote that the most important thing is that the song wanted to tell something, and there this story is catchy. it's not just a pretty word, you know? how not. so tell me, this moment i'm wondering how you were pushed into music, then returned thanks to what, and that's it. i just realized that my music would not let go when, in my first year, i began to write songs in the margins of my notebook. and that's when i realized that it was with me, but always i'm stubborn. i did get a financial education. i worked for several years in my specialty. then in all sorts of building trades, there and so on, and at some point i suddenly realized that i want something else. that is, there was a business there,

as it were, i spoke somewhere. we made acoustics there with friends and colleagues, but suddenly i realized that i still want to immerse myself in music completely, because, but here it’s impossible to combine, here you can always explain to the director the strategy of this partner of his brand, such as, of course, and i at some point, i just left all the projects, uh, business projects that i was in and started making music again. well, that's right. because any occupation. it should be a dream come true, and not an exchange of trouble for money, as often happens when you exchange trouble for good money. rodion is a melody of love, a song that is calling to her for a dream. at school, i had such a big first love. and that's the song then i listened very closely to the roxette band oh yes, our swedish bunch of friends and incredible

melodies, of course, and uh, very good language in in fact, who wrote the song. why , for example, many modern, but english-speaking performers do not fit me at all, because there is no text in the song. and here are the times of the beatles roxette sting and so on. yes, there was content, and in fact it is very difficult to compare russian and english in terms of texts, because, of course, the russian language is much more colorful. but english fits into the dimensions in a completely different way, so, uh, well, nevertheless, write a beautiful song with meaning, but in english language. it seems to me more difficult. simply, because less, as it were, not such an instrument, less colors, less colors. absolutely true and make something interesting. yes, and with the girl of my first love, i danced to the song.

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beautifully native from the heart goes tell me offended. you then with object. we had a very short romance, in fact, then we saw each other several times in our lives, but we saw each other in random companies, but still nice. now it's not anymore. that crazy regret that you did something? wrong you know, this is love thing, in fact, that in your heart there always remains a place for the person whom you even when you loved in the past tense, and if there is negativity, if there is some kind of resentment , some bitterness, unfortunately, this is not love. this is a feeling, a feeling of one's own. resentment, a feeling of injustice of some kind, this is not love, because when you love, you want the person you love to be fine, even if he is with you. this is called when you are a person, nothing else is needed except him . you are very important touched the string from the melody of your life. i

would like to tell our viewers, guys , girls, do not fill your head with negative emotions. that's completely simple in your head. there may simply not be room for something bright and very pleasant, so think more about the good, move from the melody of love to the melody of sadness, that is , in fact, sometimes there are all the greatest songs in the world. they, in my opinion, are written either in anticipation of love, or because you have lost it. that is, these strong emotions, catapult. she gives colossal everything to writing all the good songs sad in general all the songs on earth. here are the catchy melodies that you want. perform singing - this is when the soul sings it precisely because of the absence. these difficult times appear when you can accurately assess, either what you have lost, or you are hoping for a new meeting. it is in this state of mind that a melody

of sadness is created. what is rodion gazmanova? where to whistle of course?

next you can endlessly say, it is that in my heart it is the form of my heart. yes, there the text goes like a game of card suits, and the spades are the swords of the soldiers. uh, clubs are weapons of war. uh in english diamonds. it's speaking fees so more translation as well, but that's not the shape of my heart. yeah , respectively, i read or heard somewhere in an interview wall said that his guitarist

dominic is warming up. concerto is a classical guitar exercise. in fact, it is valid for this exercise. he came up with a melody, that is, the guitar move itself, this beautiful one. well, that's how it happens sometimes. i played it in his own way. it is generally in a different key and in a different position, this is a beautiful melody as well as freijol. he is a very thin person. he's so you see, our idol is dead, another sting song this is nessional. well, this is interesting, i heard somewhere how it was played in such an acoustic by some kind of cover band in a restaurant. i listened. they also did it in a completely different way, and my own version of the camera was born in my head, which i

periodically also perform at the apartment houses. here, yes, it also turned out interesting with the style. i have history is connected. do you remember, when the new year was filmed on channel one by invited artists, there were also roxet and the instinct was there, and in general, in my opinion, to everyone and just before the performance. sting was some kind of permutation switching changed cassettes, i don’t know some. and well, 40, probably, there was a pause, if not an hour. i walk down the hallway and i see outside the dressing room, bored, sting i come up, and i was a wildly insecure teenager then, but it took me some uh, a moment of laughing to start a conversation and something about moscow something about britain me studied there. i'm here. well, maybe 15-20 minutes. just chatting about nothing, he was also bored. and the administrator comes up and says, well, that's it, it's time. and i say it was very nice to meet you. and the administrators say if you want to take a picture. and

there was such a moment in me, i think, well, this must be observed. some kind of style. yes, no, probably, why am i going. and so i walk 5 m. i think you're a moron, what did you just say? why, but it was wrong to turn around already. hmm, you know, really. i think that the photos are, of course, great but most importantly, what we have left here and here. this is absolutely accurate. and if in russian, i mean, not sting who could it be by the songs already, in principle, his idols called us alone in front of you here. and there were two guys there, it was wonderful, it turns out. today i am singing this song now, then, i will perform all the songs of my e russian idols. everything is correct. yes? oleg mikhailovich what about glasses? and this is lenin, agutin, of course, guessed the horizon of your moon, which no one opened a huge umbrella at night,

meeting the pink dawn, this population so wanted to be alone, not forgetting about me fell asleep at the window when tired, but the day is the same as always, you flew so far away. when this dream came that arose not about me, you forgot everything so easily. you will forget about me boulder. maybe only we are on a par, leaving for me only a certain thread. only a drop of regret ends this song, as a rule. i really

like the live concert performance , he made this song wider than it is on the decameron album, yes, it is so much more frivolous sadness parting. as sometimes i had moments i had time, but in the company i can’t so for sure. as you enter the stage , some small supply of adrenaline appears from somewhere, and everything flies, and everything here, and you have it just so very organically beautiful. so you're right where you are guy. how much time around the campfire with a water guitar, huh? friends

, you can watch all episodes of the melody of my life podcast on the website of channel one one tv.ru. i can’t help but ask for a pleasant viewing, well, it’s clear that the plans are how to live happily ever after, but maybe something uh in the new season in concert. what would you like to implement? and where you can be seen and heard by viewers. i have an album out now. it's called step up. i have a book of poems. so this is the fixation on paper of all written things, this is a separate work , in fact, if i write poetry, it will never become a song and vice versa, well, no. uh, basically, here's the father. we always said that if your song can be read like poetry, then it turned out well. but this is also important. yes, yes, but there is some genre absolutely separately from the song of all addition. these are poems by rodion gazma. that's just here comes and

shoot creativity. yes, yes, and when the book comes out, and the name came up with the name. i'm still thinking, we are now engaged in the design of what will be on the cover, my ten-year-old daughter at that time. yeah, i also published a book for her. i'm sorry this is a simple comparison, but she said i know what the book will be called. that's it. i said fantasy and poetry. i say beautiful for some reason fantasy and poetry, because fantasy overflows as well poetry has no boundaries. it's clear? genius can be pushed. you know, i remember a wonderful italian screenwriter. and not only screenwriters of such a wide profile had a palace before nina guera, he says, in my childhood, my most vivid impression is the sea, and they ask him. and why does he say, because the sea does not fit in the eyes? that's

how it always is. by the way, we touched on the program today. especially me, when a person who knows english is bad, sometimes i translate, something leaning on me arises, because here are the songs showed that this is a thorn in my heart. i wanted to translate like this. yes, something that you can not pull out, yes pull out. i just mean that it pushes you wrong sometimes so that fantasies can sometimes push you to another shape song b to wave this is a song in which you don’t talk about any love at all, it’s absolutely vital. yes , the scenario, that is, it is through the card master , so to speak, something does not let your heart out, how is it like a person. uh, realizing life through playing cards let's just say, yes, there are a lot of layers in this song. in fact, many are arguing about what the song itself is about. here but here in my understanding,

yes? about the man i watched a grandiose film on channel one at night there was a film by rogerators, who just said a brilliant thing in my opinion, he says, he attributes so much. above, my waihe song is acoustic, so much is attributed to it with meaning. just like that, there are a lot of words around this pink floyd song, and he says, i decided to explain to you that it was my father who thought he was a parasite, that he was a serious military man, and he said that a man should trench to fight with your ideals. and you squishy play the guitars there and even when i was already a famous musician released darksights zamon, my father did not change me, and when he passed away, and she wrote this song, how would he go there in another humility to say fall , i just have a different trench, but i'm in a trench, just like you. i just do it with

the guitar. this is what it was about. you see, such a deep parallel too. well, yes, from the sad you want to turn into something bright. the book, the concert plans are a lot of concerts. now we we are doing launched such a theme of apartment building, that is, with a live cast. ah. i read poetry, i sing everything, this the whole concert passes like one big emotional block, because the links between the songs go in verse, too, with a musical backing, all my poems and this is no longer just a concert. it's practically a performance. well, good. and i'm very glad that we succeeded with my composition of musicians and it turned out very cool. it's great, well, the joy of a joyful night. and we always complete the program with a melody of joy. which song?

you know that this is actually a love melody for eric clapton, because this is a very manly beautiful story, he and his friend george harrison were. well , clapton was secretly in love with the saint's wife, never overstepping. she left george, she went to eric, and then i remember now erica clapton is not with her either, but they

managed to be taller. this one. eric came to george asked - asked. you do not mind? this is very important indeed. well, here is such a melody of joy. look how nice you are talking with a person whose eyes are burning, who wants to work for you , dear viewers, with all my heart there is a song you have that you and your father sing dance while you are young. so i was also like you, and i was spinning like a clockwork, but worries came, home, family, work. dance while you are young. dance while you're young, boy. dance while you're young. dance while you're young, boy.

dance while you're young, the more you move. the more positive the podcast. we are fine in life. please tell me as an announcement, is there some kind of blank, well like this, so that for the future here is the album that will be released step forward a small fragment. uh, for the main hit. i'm just interested in our dear ones, what's new i don't show. no, no, i show, but not to everyone. the little, little sun trembles , spirals, counts circles, and tomorrow morning you will wake up completely different. as if time hasn't broken the seal, and you can learn

to dream again and the song, i'm gray again heads damn it's time for vinyl to return again again , vinyl records, of course. she's already in full swing. you can say yes, that's how i ended up concerts. now that's just such a small club this song we finish the concerts will come back again. it was very pleasant for me to talk about it, you can call him such a lamp man, who, in the best traditions of already a musical family. gazmanova continues to carry this city's flag. thanks a lot.

guests melodies of my life hello with you podcast schrödinger code and i am its host grigory tarasevich editor-in- chief of the popular science magazine schödinger code and my co-host the real cat bari our podcast in popular science about how simply understands complex things and how to see complexity in very simple and mundane things. and today we have a wonderful guest maria kalinina, doctor of chemistry, professor of the russian academy of sciences, leading researcher at the frunkin institute of physical chemistry and electrochemistry, let's say it right. and today we will talk on the one hand about very difficult chemistry and other simple things, for example, prosus,

we will try to tie them together, we will start with soup. well, strength of course, yes, what kind of soups do you like to cook. well i'm probably like everyone else, like most of the housewives in our country, first of all, i cook. borsch cabbage soup in a hodgepodge, well, occasionally pickle. well, where to start more you can start with the broth that's right. and what is the broth in terms of colloidal chemistry? bouillon? let's do it anyway. it seems to me that it is worth giving a definition of what caloid chemistry is, column chemistry studies surface phenomena and the behavior of dispersed dispersed systems. so the crushed one was already frightened immediately for soup. you look with some horror. well, we grind the ingredients that we take for him any the object that the listener is looking at. he can mentally imagine that he grinds it up to

some pieces on dimensional ones that are no longer visible to the eye. and if all the matter in a three-dimensional object is inside and actually does not know what is happening outside and does not enter into chemical ones. reaction with the environment, then in its crushed state, almost everything is on the surface, and it is already ready to communicate with the outside world and somehow react with it. actually. it's about that the most that any hostess does, soup in general - this is the path of any person to chemistry and on the other hand, the path of chemistry to the heart of any person. the hostess is preparing a colloidal chemical system in order to extract from voluminous things from voluminous carrots, voluminous beetroots of a large piece, meat to extract, the very taste of useful and nutrients due to grinding or other methods that the hostess uses in the kitchen are completely chemical, between other. now, if we start with the broth, what is it? and this is the solution.

protein molecules in water, as well as parts and molecules of protein, but we know that collagen is contained together. i think everyone has heard this word, because this word is found both in cosmetics and in food. and everywhere that we have to achieve, so that we have such a colloidal solution of, uh, small particles of protein in water . we must heat the meat slowly , we must heat it up to about 50 degrees so that the collagen does not immediately coagulate collagen, such a helical molecule. and if it is heated very quickly, then it will immediately shrink, and everything will not go into solution. that eat, wait, an important question that worries me since childhood, you still need meat on boiling this weekend in any case, because if you throw meat into boiling water. this is how it will happen. uh, it's about the same thing as steak going. you throw it into the pan. all collagen. coagulates quickly and no longer releases nutrients to the outside, therefore, well cooked properly. it's juicy inside.

the same thing will happen to a piece of meat if you throw it into boiling water then in order to you will still get the broth, but you will have to cook it for many hours in order to overcome this mistake first. really perfect put the meat in cold water and slowly heat it up, let the collagen swell and then somewhere around 60-65 ° the collagen molecule will begin to break down and release into the solution also the same amino acid glutamine in the famous one, which is contained in the meat, on which our the tongue here reacts, as to the very famous taste of umami. that is, this is the fifth taste that we can feel. well and uh, the more glutamic acid in the broth, the tastier it will be, obviously. well, in principle, you need to bring it to a boil. yes, the broth, in fact, you can cook without boiling the problem is that you can’t cope with vegetables later, if you don’t heat the court next look, you

said you consumed the word solution. and as i understood in chemistry, there is a true solution, and you can see, yes, yes, it is not a true solution. the broth is not a true solution precisely because the particles in the contained are larger than the molecules single, that is, in fact, this particle is already larger than 2-3 nanometers of a standard size. well, as a rule, ordinary molecules, what does it mean in physical terms, it means, well, any listener here. he can take it for himself to make sure to distinguish in his kitchen or in his cosmetic cabinet, colloidal solutions from the truth. now, if he takes , uh, i’ll say, well, some kind of perfumery, a solution of fragrant substances in alcohol, they shine there, with a laser pointer, then the size of the spot at the entrance and exit will be the same through a transparent container. but if he shines into the glass transparency on the summer broth, then he will see that the spot from the laser pointer will begin

to increase at the exit. why is this so, because the particles are large enough to scatter light enough for us to see them, but for a laser pointer, she already feels their size to distinguish. a true colloidal solution here is possible with a laser pointer, that's right, that's enough. it just says broth. here is my second dilemma, not all, experienced housewives say, removing necessarily to the end all the foam foam, as i understand it, this is also dispersed system. yes, of course, this is also a colloidal chemical system. it's just a solution of air now. well, as we call it in the solid phase. there is still a little liquid, but these particles, decomposed collagen, these flakes that carry up, this is what it is. e, since the particles of the protein, they can combine with each other to form such a similarity. gel, there is a sufficient number of pores in which air is stuffed; there are also

surface-active natural substances there. well what kind of substances, understandable from the name , are surface active, that is , i do something on the surface. this is expressed well in chemical terms . surface tension facilitates these foaming processes, the formation of small fat globules, for example, in water, as somewhere in milk takes place or means. yes? yes, that's about it. and why should they throw away this foam, well, firstly, because, as i understand it, it is simply tasteless, it spoils the appearance of the broth, but, that is, the broth will become cloudy. uh, all. this scattering will spoil the whole picture. and yes , it will just be ugly. but if that doesn't bother you, then you can leave the next dilemma. here's how to be in borscht with beets . some say rub and sauté with butter , others say immediately throw in boiling water. that's how you perform, so, uh. i, uh, stew the vegetables first, then i just put them in the soup for

two reasons, so, firstly, uh , vegetables require a higher temperature to break down than natural proteins, huh? there is a so-called protopectin pectin, probably also a word many have heard it is a polysaccharide, as we say, it is used for such a binder. here is marshmallow, and marmalade is actually formed , not artificial, but natural marmalade. yes, here it is formed due to the fact that there are pectives in fruits and vegetables. and in order to decompose it, you also need a slightly higher temperature, otherwise, uh, the vegetables will remain tough. here is the most difficult question. in general , what is the difference between tasty and tasteless. that's how whom physics and chemistry entertainment tastes? this really a very complex question that is beyond the competence of any chemist.

it seems to me that it is necessary to call a psychologist, where toologist and ask them. i have here's a point of view. actually on this question, that first, of course, is part of the habit of nurturing what you associate with there with things that please you. you know, people come. here in the house i feel the smell of charlotte there, which the grandmother is ready for everything in a person already a different mood emotional attitude to the food that he will eat it here it happened. and if something unpleasant, i , for example, can not stand it, and even the smell of uh, so-called chicory coffee, because it smelled like that in kindergarten. and i really didn’t like him, and that’s all, and this is how it cut off, that is, it’s associative, as it seems to me. to a large extent, a person has a connection plus cultural habits, again, something is eaten there in one region in another. no, but of course. i think that most of the human. there is also an evolutionary apparatus, tuned

to distinguish between fresh and not fresh. spoiled and there well cooked. well , it seems to me, uh, let's say everything is excessive, there is an excess of salt, an excess of sugar, overcooked and not given. that is, this is what prevents a person from really assimilating well, nutrients. we have somewhere, probably, again, because you need to call a specialist. the medica must be written down somewhere. we have this program that allows us to distinguish. and even if we do not think, we do not understand. what is chemistry, this is all the physiology that stands behind this with us somehow the light turns on. thank you very much. i think after this podcast. you will never be calm. looking at the soup you will see complex systems in it, complex physics, chemistry, biology. well, this is good, because our world is complex and it may be wrong to look at it as something very simple. thank you very much. maria many

thanks to the bar. well, thank you very much to those who watched or listened to us today. glory to the lord in the heart