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a big game was on air today in the studio with us, aleksandrovich fadeev, chairman of the presidential council for the development of civil society and human rights and at the same time advisor to the president of the russian federation, is very glad to see you in studio, especially glad because it's in the past. you were the host of channel one. those were happy years and we are happy that you have joined us today. thank you dmitry and we will be glad to see you as often as the schedule allows. well, i'll start with such an unpleasant and difficult question. a hybrid war is being waged against russia, what russia did was called a special operation, but the response of the west turned this
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into a virtual global hybrid war. moreover, military operations are military operations. ukraine are being conducted to widely now and on territory of the russian federation and i want to remind you that those drones that a arrive quite regularly, which i think all experts now agree that they could not fly so far if they did not directly receive intelligence information from the united states and countries . i want to emphasize the west. this is not only the opinion in moscow, it is what i read in the american press and in these conditions. in the context of a hybrid war of hostilities, how to ensure human rights in russia how to find the right balance between civilian freedoms, but also what is required in the course
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of the war. the main thing here is not to succumb to emotions. and you dmitry correctly say that this is not just a special military operation, the operation is actually a big war, the money is tens of billions of hundreds of billions of dollars of intelligence. direct control of troops. we understand all this, and under these conditions, hmm, when we are actually fighting against the whole west, emotions sometimes overwhelm many people in russia in my environment. i myself sometimes hmm think, well, how come on. i mean, direct military mobilization. let's move on to the war footing. ah, and these are emotions, and here it is very important that emotions do not overwhelm, and that the analysis be a rational president. putin does not believe that it is necessary to force events to move to a higher level. uh, well, in the broad sense
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of the word mobilization of the society of the economy, and i agree with him emotions. we must put aside further if we rationally discuss this situation. well, this is still a war , special military operations in the theater of operations in ukraine, and the fact that this is what where did you start and under these conditions is it possible to pretend that we are now going to keep sterile. those rights and freedoms that were here in a different situation pretend to be stupid. how much further i, as a sit down council on human rights, ask myself, how much infringement of rights and freedoms do we have? we have an article that means fake law about the army. we have a law on foreign agents. yes, they work. e, i do not think that
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these laws are inadequate, that is, the situation in which russia is in which the world is today does not consider. mm more in addition, i see that, for example, in terms of freedom of the media, um, in my opinion, in many western countries, regarding freedom of the media, it is already much worse than in our country. although we are fighting in ukraine. you know, about emotions, i cannot disagree with you, because on the one hand i am for freedom of speech and i want alternative opinions to be studied in russia, among other things. and although for the reason that no one has all the information of all the wisdom and critics. sometimes you can teach something very useful, but then, when i looked, but the statement of uh, the leaders of the opposition of the radical opposition, which openly triumphs. uh,
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when someone died in some russian city, when some peaceful building in donetsk was destroyed, you know, it's very difficult for me. here at the same time maintain e journalistic objectivity nonetheless. you are absolutely right. this must be done, and not for the sake of justice for those who are engaged in this kind of thing, but for the sake of justice for russian society, but simply because people have the right to receive information and for the sake of justice for those who are at the front. to the russians russian soldiers who shed blood are dying , and i said that you can’t approach sterile here . this is the first second, my
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thesis, and there is also a code of criminal procedure. well, these are the two laws, oh, which we er, which we have mentioned. and how the judge makes a decision, the judge makes a decision based on the materials of the case, based on internal convictions and is written in our law conscience. it's very important and what you say, it's a matter of conscience, including mm, so, well, there is justice, and there is justice. this is a very subtle matter. hmm, such a matter of correlating justice and justice in the legal legal sense of the word. hmm , so i will say again, i do not consider the minimum restrictions that we have today. well, such a real violation of freedom to take into account the situation in which we find ourselves. well, no one
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told me from my bell tower that i could not discuss military operations during the program. for common sense says that i will not give out a military secret if for some reason it became known to me, even if no one told me that this is a military secret, but a report on the detailed movement of troops on the amount of accurate information about losses. well, it's common sense to say that these are the things that are being discussed in some distant conflict. but when what is happening now happens, such a discussion would be inappropriate. and this is also a question. well, i would say education. so they mentioned those people who left, who rejoice. hmm victims. there he rejoices at the explosion of kindergarten schools. e in the donbass, and this is not a legal issue and not
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a question. freedom of speech and human rights. it 's such a hatred, it's moral. problem and it is very important that rational arguments do not work here. here are many of those who left and are actively behaving, who do you mean? and it's impossible to talk rationally with them. this is the subject of a bad faith. and no matter what russia does , no matter what arguments are put forward? hmm, contact is impossible, but i don’t want to say that today in russia all opponents about such a lot are not agree with the decision of 24 february. mm last year, that they are all like this no, it’s not, but those who call hmm kill destroy russia dismember russia it ’s impossible to rationally agree with them, but we
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must remain rational full agreement with the authorities for people who are out of power. it seems to me that it is optional , sometimes even unnatural, but at one time he said about this, but he said so with a sense of humor. he said that the intellectual should support. uh, administration bodies power only when he is part of this administration, and on one more condition that the administration will do what he wants, but this, of course, he said with a sense of humor, but i mean that, of course, always people who think, they have their own approaches, they have their own nuances. and yes, they have some emotions of their own, but it just tells me, uh, common sense. in general, i'm not insanely hard to separate e. the desire of a person to express
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his point of view e, and the desire for a radical position, but if you want, hit with a sledgehammer on to their own people, well somehow it is not very difficult to tell the difference. i'm a little bit on the other side, but the knowledge of my own people, and marty last year , the american special services prepared reports hmm that very soon millions will come out on the streets of russian cities, millions protesting against the start of a special military operation. these were the documents of the american intelligence agencies. i suspect that they did not rely on a deep analysis of russian society. she is the opinion of those we are talking about now, who do not understand russian society does not like russian society does not like. actually the country's history. this leads to huge strategic mistakes. in the end. i think that when biden
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last year, it means he was pleased and happily saying now we are going to destroy russia here, i think that he read these treasures of the special services , erroneous reports of the special services. well, i, uh , mentioned one fact from your biography , don’t be offended by my actions, and many years ago, we were partners in the russian-american, uh, dialogue. i even visited you. i remember it well, and uh, when we discussed with whom, and my center, which poisoned the national interest, will conduct a dialogue. we, of course, had options with some well-known people and organizations in russia who were engaged in such a dialogue, but if you want, professionally, uh, they were interested and received very serious western grants for this. we went to you because you were interested in dialogue,
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but you really reflected the position of the russian mainstream and, more narrowly, the russian foreign political elite, in order for rational decisions to be made in washington it was this position that the understanding of this particular position was central, and has not yet been translated. unfortunately, people in moscow many of them left, but many remained, in which one still really wants to behave as if everything in the world is not very bad, not very scary, and in general, and this whole war is hybrid, not only hybrid, that this is some kind of annoying stupidity and people of good will, and they, of course, consider themselves to be people. good will. here, uh, we should just sit down and agree. well, i remember how in the nineties it hit me when one of my friends
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in moscow you can see journalists and a member of the duma, speaking about asaev, he said, the guys are chechens, yes, well, you understand at some stage, there is such a thing as an enemy, i remember when one of the figures of mazhadov, maybe they calculated a sticker on a mobile phone rockets covered killed rockets there were exclamations. how is it without investigation without trial. so you have destroyed this man. but what about justice, this voice was the main one here in moscow, you know, the military figured out the terrorists, beat him and did a good job, a was the main motive. you are acting illegally and these people have not died out, moreover, i wonder if you, as the head of the human rights council in russia, have you heard about some.
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uh, who uh wrote you a letter with concern about the fact that the united states in the territory of the sovereign state of iraq killed the iranian general with sulaimaniya in no way and in no way, and the friendly iranian government does not even notify you of this one of these people came to you. no, no one came, no. well , unfortunately, um. i've been for many months since last year i have been sending to thousands of addresses even before the special, military operation has begun, sending information about the defeat of uh, by the ukrainian armed forces and not only by the armed forces of these battalions known hmm to the defeat of residential buildings of kindergarten schools. it's all documented with the dead with names and addresses. hmm. and what's the name of the arrival. you, i have documents, and for many thousands of arrivals i sent
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pass medical examination for free ukrainian 700 so love to compose fakes about some regions of russia allegedly mined in mariupol all bridges have equipped defensive structures. near each bridge - this is just a tactic for all this whole native that a counteroffensive is underway, so both roll up on a typewriter. for them to go to the crimea its waters, supposedly will not be. at least the year of the fourteenth year. ukraine tried to block. that's all that could block for crimea , they worked for a year of huge crimea, in general, they managed, antiria - tomorrow on the first and always on one tv point ru and in november the seventy- fifth anniversary of the declaration of human rights will be celebrated. of course, he is passionate about this, and, to my regret, he generally does not maintain any neutrality about the conflict around
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ukraine and, in general, with many voices and many divisions. he regularly blames russia what approaches does russia have to human rights that you would like to represent the united nations and some other international society. this, well , it must be recalled that this is a famous document to the audience, a doctrine. uh, everyone, uh, the worldwide doctrine of human rights, and uh. this is the doctrine of a universal doctrine, and it is recognized by all. well, in our constitution, the second chapter has much in common. uh, with this doctrine , the doctrine is 75 years old, what's the problem, that this very good document has been used for quite a long time, as a weapon, as a weapon, it is clear that hmm there is no ideal anywhere and this doctrine was declared as its ideal in china, not in pakistan, not in the usa and not
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even in france. but that's something to strive for, uh, but the west is using doctrine. in hundreds and thousands, we are now collecting this information to further our political goals. hmm and blaming hmm means, uh, sovereign countries that they violate human rights. they simply reproach, interfering in internal affairs, using internal political forces up to military intervention in the flesh. this called humanitarian intervention. libya was bombed, the state was destroyed , in fact, hiding behind hmm human rights, of course, when hmm was not a liberal democrat. he was generally a tyrant, but social rights were fulfilled to a great extent there political rights in the western sense were not fulfilled, but social rights were fulfilled people had a good salary pension and education hmm the social sphere,
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which means there was water and so on and so on the state was destroyed it's gotten better now. no, not political rights, nor no social rights. hmm. what was the task before the americans, they had the task of destroying the state of the lily, well, as a model for africa, they solved this task using the doctrine of human rights. this is what we should be against. your time there are african similar documents islamic similar document, for example, an african document is called the declaration of human and peoples' rights , they have a slightly different view and it is clear that this is the legacy of colonial times. the people is also a subject not only to the individual, not only to the person. islam has its own specifics. we should create an atmosphere of respect, respect for african documents, islamic for asian , for ours, we must now about
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the seventy-fifth anniversary. i use this 70th and 5th anniversary to try to improve the atmosphere around the doctrine of human rights. it seems to me that we should move in this direction, and i want to say that we in russia do not forget about this and there will be a whole series of various conferences of international conferences with invitations. e from a wide variety of participating countries. uh, intellectuals, learned politicians, it will be in november. traveled. you have met many european politicians. we talked about the fact that we had a joint project, but i must admit that when we talked both in washington and in moscow, of course, i did not imagine that it would come to what we see now and i e- uh, i've had big problems with american foreign policy, especially with regard to russia, but what uh
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washington will take in a military conflict. to the side against russia and not just take it aside, but present it as, if you want, in part fundamental american interests are no less fundamental. and in order not only to prevent the defeat of ukraine, but in order to inflict a strategic defeat on russia, and in general it is often said that such a strategic defeat should include a change in the management system in russia and may even be a dismemberment of russia including the journalistic head of the magazine expert when did you encounter your western colleagues? have you seen that something is
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being prepared, that something is brewing? in europe who? uh, kept the mind, who has a different vision they pushed back. they were pushed aside, they were pushed aside for a long time. i met, mostly rational, reasonable , intellectual people, france for example, i met a very high-ranking person in france. the first question is about crimea , he says, well, of course, crimea is yours. no, it was not going to say. it was, of course, after the 14th parliament a very conservative person. it was another not very conservative one. i say you can say it publicly, no i can not. and why? because he will be trampled on,
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because he will be pushed aside. this is about freedom of speech, because, unfortunately, somehow. it is not the place now to discuss not the time of the way, but the real power has departed. that's to these forces in many ways. well, excuse the obscurantist obscurantist forces that do not understand how complex the world is, that a balance is needed, that there are different interests, that there are different civilizations, in the end different religions, the world, let's put it all down to simple forms. yes, you are two four and such intellectuals as you are called. i met them pushed aside hmm and the same obscurantists put in place such a game goes on, you understand, if it means a different point of view, then it must necessarily be radical . hmm, as you know, the movement of the left at one time was
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. this is a movement to the left, and now there are only anarchists left and they are shown at the meeting of the seven, they break shop windows and show them here. a parable, if not we will come then, here are hmm and this game is played. e until the next generation comes. and when it will come, i don't know, uh. i don't even understand how we will build a new configuration, with whom we will build a new configuration of the savings world with this woman, i don't know , maybe she is a good family. you know , it seems to me that you said something very important. uh, sometimes in moscow, uh, people have the idea that in the collective west right away, when the soviet union began to disintegrate, maybe they decided everything beforehand. they had some kind of master plan that i didn't
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implement today, it wasn't quite right there was just a change of generation said if there was a world government there would be more order for sure but uh there was a big evolution in the west how unfair they said sane people were pushed aside other people who might be remained sane but they uh what is called being under the influence of a straitjacket, political correctness and, most importantly , a generation of people has grown up? who are no longer afraid of the soviet union no longer afraid of what russia can do to them if they ignore russian interests, and i, i really think that, probably, some limited situational agreements
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by the west may be necessary, but if you are talking about some kind of strategic reconciliation, this requires other leaders and maybe even a different generation, or i am pessimistic about them. i'm afraid to seem no less a pessimist than you and these people even read books. well, here is one of my favorite authors the great sociologist of st. petersburg magpies of russian origin on the american sociologist, the main prize. sociological us name pitirim sorokin and he foresaw this ending. mm. uh, the end of the cycle of the great cycle of development of western civilization. we see the end, we need to look for new solutions and hmm . here is the american stubbornness with which they are trying to impose their decisions impose
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their own rules. they are simply inadequate to the state of the world. they are out of date. they are inadequate to the huge china that has risen hmm southeast asia they are inadequate to the challenge of the times, and moreover, it was written long before what we see now, well eminent soothsayers, eminent thinkers hmm this is to understand you need to be an educated person. and i want to say that there are a lot of educated people in the west, when we met and the circle was formed here and i invited american british professors to dozens of first-class educated people in russia. they have a much more complicated relationship with russia, i don't want to, and we don't want love from them, but we want adequacy. these people also come out on the surface. well, you understand such pilers, maraca paper and, uh, i think putin said
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recently that we're in for the hardest decade ever. after the end of world war ii. here we must proceed from this, we must now, at least for these 10 years, to maintain peace. well, in a more or less stable state. and many are not conservatives, they are trying to create the impression that they are the successors of ronald reagan. it's not true ronald reagan was indeed a staunch anti-communist. he was a man with such a polemical and sarcastic fork, and he could say some things about the soviet union that were very hostile and very categorical. when he was in the hospital. after he had an assassination attempt shortly after such a white house prank, he was purely the first thing he
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was able to do. he wrote a letter to brezhnev in which he said that we have serious differences, but they are less serious and fundamental than what brings us together, that we do not want a nuclear war. that we love our children and that we want a peaceful future for our countries. i can't imagine for president biden to write such a letter to vladimir putin and at another point he was accused of being a supporter of putin's traditional values. uh, i had a chance to talk to roullid rain when he was getting ready to meet gorbachev. and so reagan, without explaining his motives, began to find out all tastes. gorbachev what he thinks, what is his favorite football team, and even asked about the last matches. i think
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that he does all this without studying strategic issues, and then it turned out that he did this in order to first meeting with gorbachev to show him that they are both people. that they have some sides, some interests, in addition to the struggle between the two states. and this is how i understood gorbachev said about this for many years. this made a deep impression on him. again, i'm trying to imagine biden thinking about how to make a good impression on putin, or say in september. it's just not just a matter of politics. this is a question of some kind, if you like, tyranny, which arose the participation of western persons in the globalist elite, and during that moment when the soviet
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union collapsed and they had a sense of permissiveness. now there is also a problem, the media is still around in those days, and there were media that acted in accordance with the laws of laws in all countries there are laws. media well, somehow different points of view could not be expressed, so, uh, it’s so hard to operate with them. and now the concept of fake has appeared. and we don't even quite show ourselves how serious this thing is. it's not just someone somewhere lied some newspaper duck. ceased clear what can lie? as much as you want, for anyone, and there will be nothing for it. this is a very important reputation. this is because, of course, somehow i somehow remembered the old soviet joke about
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the stove and vasily ivanovich is the stove. went on a business trip. in london returns from there all alcohol rings in chic clothes, what happened asks vasily ivanovich walked through london, i see the club went into the club, the men are playing point. i also sat down to play points. the man says point. i say show here gentlemen we take each other's word for it, and then vasily ivanovich, my card went. and now the western elite has gone to her card. she suddenly realized that she was absolutely unpunished. we said that the soviet union cannot punish either. well, inside, the party system can not punish emasculated. media diluted m-m. but there is a huge internet, which is actually under control, where anything is possible. this is a very dramatic situation. it's a very dramatic situation and er. it requires
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a lot of realism and great clarity, dealing with the collective west. as rightly said at the beginning of our conversation , emotions may require one thing, but let's say common sense and strategies may require another. i want to ask you about two practical questions that are directly related. e to your activities. let's hear what you said about youtube and wikipedia on the one hand, youtube of course, tools for spreading fakes and false information about the operation in ukraine on the other hand. if youtube is blocked then we will lose the tool for dissemination of the information that we consider necessary truthful information. and it's not an easy story. i want to block youtube. but how then to advance your understanding of your interpretation of your truth, i don’t have a definite answer here. but with regard to wikipedia, you gave a more unambiguous
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answer. let's listen. in my opinion, wikipedia should be closed. in many ways, it is convenient , but there are many distortions. when it comes to the politics of history, we need to create an alternative to it as soon as possible and close wikipedia . this is an ideological politicized product, as soon as possible to create an alternative and close, of course if you do not start in order to close create here, finally the phrase is what i had in mind. but how will you create these alternatives and how long it will take water. it will take years, this and people are doing it, but for now endure it. well, if you and i climb there. if someone wants to know what the pythagorean theorem is. hmm , when he types something like the pythagorean theorem , wikipedia pops up for him, even in yandex, even in google. hmm, this is a powerful tool if he wants to learn something about a special military operation, he immediately recognizes it is clear that there is a huge amount of information there, absolutely
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one-sided absolutely propaganda. well, if you want to know something about me, please don’t look at wikipedia, i don’t look at myself for sure either, because it says that, firstly, i’m not the son of my parents, because my parents were known human rights lawyers , and they didn't deserve a nasty son like me, for some reason they gave, uh, the wrong date for my birth. and it's not that we didn't pay attention to it attention. e people working, but we found out and we investigated it, we checked that there are people there, at least among those who deal with biographies and political materials, people who openly represent a radical position, and they do not miss anything else and they are not shy about anything . this can be tolerated under the conditions of a
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special war operation. well, how is it blocked. first, well, this is technologically incomprehensible. how to do it. and secondly, after all, here i am returning to the fact that our society turned out to be stronger, what western intelligence agencies thought and the strength of society allows us to endure. the same wikipedia allows here no grandiose risks hmm here, whatever wikipedia propaganda is, it is political propaganda military propaganda it will not achieve any noticeable success, but this does not mean that you need to lay down your hands again moreover, if you say, well, not even about politics wikipedia has a lot of mistakes. and she is rather superficial and well, in some places it is done carelessly and nothing prevents us from presenting not only to the russian consumer to the world consumer
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suggest another encyclopedia new encyclopedia. what is he doing? nothing, because the french were the first to ring the bells many years ago. they said, look google is manipulating us told the french. you are crazy. it's not we were the first to talk about it, but google manipulates google when you type some words in a search engine. he specifically gives you information for you. he censors information. this is when the french realized they were trying to do something. hmm, the french don't have a search engine. we have at least yandex is more or less under our control. we have a hand that, of course, needs to be developed into pikachu, so can we cover all this now? no, we can't close the creator of the alternative, but really.
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the main directions, uh, in this regard, i am a romantic, this is education, it is difficult for an educated person to manipulate a person who has knowledge , analysis skills, information comparison skills , it is difficult to deceive him, and therefore, it seems to me that the struggle is with what we are talking about, it's still in education, but it will take not even years, but ten, what should be done in skype, not with an ax. yes, yes, and the last question about the herbertwich case appeared in a wall street article. uh newspaper where angelic worked and they uh? i do not mean to say expresses uh indignation. here is some concern that he may have to stay in custody for a long time before the trial. he is already 5 months in prison, he was extended for another 3 months at the request, the investigation for another 3 months of justice for the sake of
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maria butina about a was in prison in a very difficult conditions 5 months. that's how much hercegovich is today. the only difference is that she did not blame. uh, the offense that was attributed to her was much more serious, how would you answer him in the middle. here, well here is one of the areas of my work. this is a struggle with the terms of pre-trial detention, unfortunately, we have such a tradition regardless. this is about russian citizens. unfortunately, such a sad tradition, when the terms of pre-trial detention, the terms of the investigation are extended to ordinary citizens. it's well it's such a stupid rule. you fight her and the president fights hmm 5 months. this is not that period, but some kind of unusual for the russian
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system, i don’t see anything extraordinary here and does not necessarily mean everything. this is some kind of special plan, it does not mean anything against this person. unfortunately. this is the norm. mm colleagues. if the dershka is ready to write a letter to a colleague, my colleagues may advise me to visit the pre-trial detention center where he is to see what he is in, in which we came several times. uh, american ambassador, well, there are no complaints and i have not heard well normal conditions contain normal food. what should i do? these are the deadlines, but if the politicians do this, i would not, but if they have any specific concerns, they probably could write to you as an adviser to the president and the commissioner for human rights. moskalkova, of course, yes, thank you so much for this interesting and important conversation for almost 40 minutes in one breath. thank you very much and hopefully again. you will be seen live with us soon. thank you thank you we go to the commercial and
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, a correspondent in washington for the kommersant newspaper and a regular participant in our program . ekaterina is very glad to see you. hello, dmitry well, as i understand it, life in washington is interesting, not just every day some new events in american politics. well, frankly, you won’t get bored, and the incredible, i don’t even want to say it becomes possible, the incredible becomes commonplace, it seems so, the most popular, and american television commentators, leading. if you want the voice of enlightened conservatism. he said, uh, the other day two things are the first thing he thinks. what would uh administration biden democrats in congress want to kill? let's
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hear from former president trump. what do you think about future hearings they will let trump be president. look, they protested him , insulted him, and he still won, not impeached him twice on wild pretexts. they fabricated a bunch of january 6th events to impeach him. and it didn't work again. he returned. they filed charges against him again, didn't work. he got even more popular, and then they charged him three more times, each time his popularity only grew. first you start with criticism, then you protest, then you write letters to them, then you press charges and none of that helps then. what's next? i mean slow down guys. we 're heading straight for the kill. this is obvious . no one will say this, but i can't imagine how one can even come to such a conclusion. conclusion, you know what that means, that is, both permanent parties in washington decided that they were so afraid of trump that he could not be among them, they would put him on trial in
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march. what where in the case of the events of january 6, which in essence means putting him in prison for the rest of his life for his complaints about the results of the last elections, this is exactly what is happening. if this happened somewhere in moldova, then the state department would blow all the trumpets to let the world know that this is an illegitimate government, and nevertheless our government. it makes it hard overestimate how bad it all is. and i can't even imagine where all this will lead, but this collision is clearly inevitable. and by the way, speaking our president is insane. and it is simply impossible to deny that biden does not lead the government. so i've never been so worried, and ekaterina if you heard , uh, the way he says that it is quite possible, even likely, to kill trump in order to prevent him, but to the elections. and the second uh, uh, well , it’s impossible to use rational criteria here, because the president
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biden is not sane. eh, to be fair. well, so ir khalson, he is a man of many talents of great courage, but polemics are also included in his repertoire. and this should not be taken completely literally, but on the other hand, he is a serious person. and if he had not thought in this direction, he would not have said this, but in another interview. and so he went further and said things that are already directly related to russia, he said that biden could even unleash deliberately. let's listen to the new world war. when you start bring charges against their political opponents. you understand that you must win otherwise you will be blamed. so they can't afford to lose. they will do anything to win. and what will they do, they will not
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announce a new pandemic, covid, masks and all that. they won't. this won't work. instead, they will declare war on russia, that's what they will do. next year there will be a war between russia and the us they want it i don't think we can win. this is my personal opinion, however, in the political meaning they have to declare war in order to get the support of the military and thus win. i believe it and all the evidence points to it being true. so if you are worried about the fact that our politics is getting even more ferocious than now, then you should be worried about the prospect of a direct military conflict with russia we are already fighting russia because we are funding their enemies, but i am talking about a direct conflict with russia when we declare war on her, and i think that this can easily happen. but again, we understand that it is necessary to make an allowance for the polemical style, and rokalson. but he doesn't just throw accusations. he brings evidence, he is a very, very influential person and values
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​​​​his reputation. here's what he said, what do you think. it reflects him. uh, his individual style, uh, personal convictions or is this the point of view of a large number of americans? dmitry and the fact is that, uh , tucker carlson, he literally removes from the tongue what very many republicans and conservatives think. this is not a statement, but rather the fears that so many people have republicans now and and i communicate with them. i can tell you for sure that in the conversation at the kitchen table, this is exactly what they are talking about now, and the reason for this is absolutely exactly the first reason, so i think i absolutely correctly mentioned that despite what the democrats are doing now, and popularity. uh, popularity,
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donald, trump, it's growing and now already, well , you can say with a great deal of confidence, if nothing extraordinary happens, then donald trump gets the nomination. here's what is extraordinary can happen here indeed, either the elimination of a competitor or, but some very bright conflict, but in political technology, uh, such an effect is called a rally effect, when some kind of some kind of conflict is some kind of war. it begins to rally the nation, and such a situation happened, for example, with bush a after a on september 11, and it literally grew in 2 days, and its popularity grew, in my opinion, by 50 percent, but i think it’s just this, and they are now thinking about this in the democratic camp, and this is now opa.

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