what struck her the most was her memories of her childhood, how she was 4 or 5 years old, and her brother died. lazar died, brother, lazar, she was very worried, she cried a lot, and then as she writes. she looked at herself in the mirror as she was crying and at this moment. she realized that she would be an actress, to be honest. i thought that i most likely added it retroactively, i hardly think that she didn’t even write this, i don’t know, it seems to me that i interrupt. as far as i know, she wrote, then she destroyed it. here's an opinion whether it was something that buried her. i think it's very on him. it seems. well, there is. yes, i agree, i accidentally said that you shouldn’t play on stage. it is necessary there in a t-shirt in hockey. something on the stage must be lived. yes, and that's what it seems to be, here's a creative person. such grief happened in the family, yes, and then one will write after that. quiet yes, another may be the day

before the music in the third book. she felt that she wanted to play. this is a sincere experience that was born in her heart. here she saw herself in the mirror. she realized that she was created in order for people to eat these experiences of hers, so it seems to me that this fragment is very reliable, it explains a lot in her, and it explains, of course, some deepest potential. uh, this actress of this person, who is still her main roles. here my thought did not work. so to speak, i saw her the only time in my life. here in this performance. and then silence. there, uh, they are playing, and, and she is playing. i was still quite a young man. just entered the university. and my dad said to me, here you go while they are alive, look at these old people. and so many years have passed. i don't really remember the content of this performance. well, how did they go on stage, how did they splash gray? here is a touch to ranevskaya a. then i began to read all these aphorisms, but there was some kind of feeling. indeed, the bitterness of some kind of

understatement of this human, this female fate. i'll tell you so. eh, why should there be proof of the understatement of the degree of understatement? this is too much agree degree. yes, i do think that if you poke the viewer like this, that's the only way to dot it. this is wrong . but this is how i am guided by myself. e, so that the audience had the opportunity to fantasize. you just point him in the right direction. and what is it, because a person can individually fantasize much brighter and richer than you try to play it, you understand, so i don’t think that if there is it was destined to be. to become a myth, which she became, yes , then doskannost is not needed you see, this is such a paradoxical thing

, and it seems to me that if she, well, she played, after all, the central roles, that's the same dream and actually in the theater, she played the central roller all the time. well, strange mission. or a strange month, then refused to play. well, she just was. i understand that, for example, i also do not like to play now. well, well, there comes a certain period when you get tired of it, and she, as far as i understand her, is also already. well, it's grown. this is a resurrection. understand some role that would uh fit to her inner some kind of a promise inside him of searching. already when she was in old age and was and was not, and it is unlikely that she, as a professional, understood that she no longer had the strength for this, then you understand to me vasily ivanov

vasily borisovich ivanov, how we are friends with him. he told me, he tried to reanimate autumn green, by the way, they were friends the same thing, they didn’t play foundlings together. yes, yes, yes, yes. this is her script. eh, green. yes, i'm the lights of barto yes , but they all argued, then because of this phrase we'll beg. every authorship tried. yes i think so, uh, so they tried, and why is she not people's artist of the ussr ranevskaya, by the way, she was people's artist of the ussr and she had three stalin prizes. well, when does it mean, uh, vasya didn’t tell how he was to reven vasilievna, we were filming. e her to initiate so that she becomes the people's russian ussr, she told him, i'll be offended by you. i will not talk to you, because she

understood her place, the form in which she exists, you understand, and she agreed with this form. yes ranevskaya i think i did not agree with my form. what is she not agree? she's always been a leading lady, i don't know, from what she wrote. well, you question, of course, the authenticity of these texts. yes, nonetheless. i have a feeling that she constantly hears this motive of dissatisfaction with her fate - a question. well, as you can see, theatrical fate is a question. this is not satisfaction. uh, this is a demanding artist, as pushkin says, not only in this matter, it seems to me, it seems to me , here she is, true, she didn’t play very much , i think that she was so dissatisfied fate. no, well, look, she herself wrote about her youth, that this is the cemetery of her roles that she played in the twenties. there , the beginning of her career, how much she played in these provincial theaters. it's all gone, as if without a trace in the sand. further , in the thirties, she already begins to play in

moscow. but this, well, in a donut, she is beautiful. wednesday, yes, they can not this film, and she learned, as they said, yes, french, a few special phrases. she even pronounced them in his text, and one of the french looked there roman or someone and he admired this game, because by the movement that he saw the french speech. this is revealing. she is truly incredible. and yes, the unique potential is unique and and further, that further these soviet films. they are very cute beautiful, by the way, the movie. uh, the foundling is interesting in that it echoes from your film. and i'm walking around moscow because i'm walking around moscow because moscow is shown here and there in one day. yes, that is, the heroes are moving around moscow for one day, it says, great film. here's our tv viewers, you can say, if anyone has not seen or reconsider, because here is moscow 30 foundling yes, your film is shown more often. he is more famous. he sounded foundling so a little bit, except for this phrase he went into the sand. here

is a look at moscow in the thirties, there , for example, a double-decker trolleybus rides. yes , in general, these people are the atmosphere of a wonderful wonderful film, but it is more than this film. well, i agree with you, but i think it's okay. it's possible to dream, only to have the audience brought up she had it there she is in place, but in the film by mikhail roma dreams. here she already has weak work in the cinema. well , nothing, well, what is this movie here, where uh? yuri vasilievich i'm a terrific artist , about dry cleaning. what is it? and so she called roslav yanych, called a hack, because he worked a lot on the radio, but she herself nevertheless agreed, probably, some circumstances. maybe the money was needed. i 'm not at all especially every actor has er, not everyone has the role of e, which he doesn't really have. you see, she's still different in her

there was a lot of things, like her as a person, she really managed to win everyone. yes, it seems that fate drove her into some kind of corner. i won't give. i will not give you this role. this role she just had you what, and she was absolutely. with today's language to speak, she straight up was a completely different matter. she never worked out. uh, power in the theatre. here vera petrovna maretskaya is also an outstanding lump, but she is yuri alexandrovich to zavadsky. ah, she was his wife. their son was helping to build a theater to lead the theater finder never did this. she existed separately. here is a separate one. uh, racfort is such a sir, one that is not for everyone, you see, at the same time in our theater the right hand of the factory was irina sergeevna anisimova wulf director, and she

is also the ex-wife of the factory mother irina sergeevna in pavel wolf yes, you know yes , her friend is a close friend close and a mentor in every sense, rina sergeevna had a son, alexei, which means that ranevskaya lived in their house for such a part of the week, she lived with them for the last part, which means at her place, and therefore she called alexei ersatz. well, he's in his book he uh published a book says that i came to change the linen bed fondue. she then already lived on the street of alexei tolstoy and a, i must say that she, uh, slept on her feet. and then alexey came, and he, as he writes there, began to change the sheet, and so he bent down and lay down. eh, i tucked this sheet up to the wall there, and forelgievna was in a nightgown. elderly

woman. she stood at the door. and she looked at him like he was making the bed and then said. lyosha, when i'm gone , they'll say anything about us as a grandmother, don't believe it, alyoshka, this is what he expressed very delicately on this topic. it seems to me that the thirst for love, its paradoxical nature was enormous, and is the answer. why did she become the idol of our time? i don't know how she felt about it herself. but she was very ironic and most ironic. that's all her jokes, they are all on the verge of a foul, you can say when she is aware of this case, when she just

appeared in moscow and saw her on the street in the center in a stroller, which means stanislavsky and she ran after him and shouted to the boy my, my boy, by the way, here is a myth, here i don’t really see something, it looks like her. well , maybe, but, i like her story more, is it true or not? why, at the end of the thirties, she was invited to vamd. apparently, already after the death of stanislavsky , she, therefore, came to nemirovich dachanchenko, he crumbles in compliments. that's it, she agrees. she wants to work for you at the hut, and then she leaves, she says, nemirovich-danchenko. and thank you very much vasily petrovich vasily petrovich thank you very much. and when she's there the next day calls her and says that nemirovich-danchenko changed his mind about taking her. e to the moscow art theatre. i don’t know if this is true or not, but at least the story is very busy. it fits with her essence with her character. she specifically

made a reservation. in that case or not. i think not, not on purpose and such a random slip of the tongue. i think by accident a reservation, but where her intuition worked, she did not have to work there, that is, intuition turned out to be smarter than herself and, uh, will make her an amazing role. here is manke, in a storm they beat a church one. it is great. yes, it is true that people came. just look at her and leave avatz, it pissed me off not pissed me off. and he realized that he threw out this episode later, because it turned out that people came for the sake of this episode. uh, and then they left and it was, well, not a comfortable situation for a performance when a significant part of the audience leaves. well, evgeny yurievich you can talk endlessly about faina georgievna, and you know what i want to say. when i write books for a series of six wonderful people, i

i always consider it my task to demythologize my heroes, that is, to separate the myth from the truth. in the case of fine georgievna, i absolutely do not want to do this. i love that she's a myth and they keep making movies. they continue to argue, and in this it is definitely her victory. victory of her as an actress. victory of her as a woman of victory and her as a person. yes thank you very much for this thank you conversation for these memories. it was a podcast of the life of wonderful people with you alexei varlamov , writer, rector of the literary institute. thank you this is an easy money podcast, i'm its host mikhail khanov today i'm visiting. anna

dengiina expert of the national center for financial literacy, teacher, author of financial literacy programs for parents' children. hello anna you know, i have four children, however, the youngest is now 15 years old. and it's probably too late to talk about the need to start, uh, financial literacy. well, i can share such a story, it is clear that there were no programs. then maybe 15 there 20 years ago, especially there 30. here. i'm talking about older children. but when you deal with money yourself, you come to a lot of intuitive, and uh, here i'll just tell you how we solved the problem of buying a coupe to buy. the kids had their own money. and moreover, practically right there almost from the first grade of the juniors, but, with which they were encouraged for successfully with these control tests, they successfully passed with excellent marks , only with excellent marks, that is, only fives were encouraged. you know, like in ancient greece only the winner gets a gold medal, everyone there fives, here. there is a small financial reward there - 1,000 or several thousand rubles, but nevertheless, at some

point, when the house was already turning into some kind of cluttered fortress there. yes , these are all the small trinkets there, which are just right. it is known that children play with toys emotionally, that any emotional toy there is much more happy, it brings something heaped up with a train or a designer. at some point , it occurred to me, a wonderful idea. i said guys. you have your money, buy it. he says, buy, i say buy, and you just know how it was cut off, yes, that is, they probably don’t need to look. we're probably saving up for something heavy. and that is intuitively. this is the right move. yes, the absolutely right step is exactly the idea that arose in your head, parental, that here is some kind of insight click, that something needs to be done differently and you did absolutely right, because when children have their own financial resource, their brains are switched too. and they start to really understand what i can do. that's how i can do it like this and it seems that you no longer need what parents can finance , but you need to think about something more serious there, maybe put it in a piggy bank and so on,

so the step is absolutely accurate and cool that you caught this right on time situation and did so. well, it is no coincidence that in russia there was a fairy tale when a rich father sent his son to work. every time. there, thanks to that respect for the father, they just gave him money. he threw them out. remember money, every time the son saw off with an indifferent look, and then he sent some distant village, where he plowed for this gold. there's a whole year there blood sweat and so on, and then when the father was about to throw it away, but no, dad, it's golden. it is very dear to me. yes, it remains how to start a conversation about money in general, in general in a good way, when a child already enters economic life. that is, he starts buying something. it starts to want. it's two and a half three years. is the child developing normally here? yes, that is, if this is the norm for a typical child, then this is right early and directly begins to enter the economic life and you economic socialization begins in two and a half three years. he can go shopping, he can choose. begins to understand that if he wants something, then it may be something obligatory, what needs to be bought, for example, for the whole family.

and that you don’t have to, that is, this story about needs, about desire, he has here yes, and you won’t believe it, so i, on my empirical experience as a parent, went into this story of the financial development of children when we the oldest was 9 months old. well, that is, it was quite a crumb. so it happened that, well, i was kind of on maternity leave and decided to do it. here is the financial education of children, ended her financial career in the bank. and so i decided that now, as if my children are everything, so my house began to simply grow into various elements of the financial environment, because i began to teach other children. to that, for example , those who were in kindergarten in the senior group, that is, six nine months, which i will tell you now, some appeared no, well, what look, the nipple appeared, for example, some piggy banks, i got several piggy banks, shells appeared, which i used as material when i explained to the children. here, well, a trading day, yes, auri shells, you can exchange and so on, that is, evolution, when we explain and my child began to interact with it. i started paying attention to it. i began to show him how to put money in a piggy bank, for example, then at

some point he became interested in a wallet, that is, such a wallet there, yes, and, as it were, here many parents from this. well, not for you. it's like cubes for adults. no , this story was not attracted to any typewriter about the fact that various elements appeared in the environment of the house, and he drew attention to this. for me. it was important, and we began to interact with him. here we are with the wallet. he got acquainted with the cards. i slowly explained it all. naturally. you went to the store, and the store. here in this mode of broadcasting there with a list of what we will buy, let's look in the refrigerator, what you have to put him in a cart. according to the list, he specially drew such a list with pictures where it should be circled, and i directly have an evidence base. that's 2.5 years. we are the eldest child circling what he chooses . now what we need goes to the store in the cart , puts everything, unloads it at the checkout, and so on. well, it causes a lot of emotions in everyone around, but in fact it works. this is such a first question boy or girl. who? not not who is faster, listen, it happens differently. well , because here we have a household, four

children too, yes, and there is also a girl and she is now 9 years old, and she went into this topic folder already. why in a household? and, because these are children from my husband's first marriage. they. well, family, of course, i know the household, i rather call it professional slang. yes, well, well, according to observations. she went into this a little later, but she showed herself very cool in such a business context. that is, it turned out that she directly earned on some of the needs that were laid bare with us. i needed some plates for a moment i got carried away with bowls. so i think, damn it, i want plates and ksenia just went to the potter. and i'm going to make these plates. well, in fact sold to us. yes, it was unexpected, because as she agreed from the series, she was like that. well, now, i 'll take an advance from you there. well, we are such wow, but before, in general, it didn’t show much. so, in fact, it is now 6 years old, when they are, as it were , very enterprising at the expense of the early ones. i think including dive in. we don’t steal their childhood there, probably a common question, which is often a question. i think,

no, and i often get asked. that's good. you are only talking about money. i say, no, of course, we really have some kind of dialogue about money every day in our lives. well, that is, we've since a lot of situations. these are situations, of course, but there is always a little bit, but this is not something that i, as it were , instructively, put him at his desk and say. come on, now we will have a lesson in financial literacy. i'll tell you something there. no. these are just such contexts and i do not think that i am taking away childhood. it's the ordinary life of the ordinary a child who lives simply in economic reality, interacts with money, does not interact with this space at this moment. here is a phrase from parents for 2-5 years, when the question to pitch goes away, buy we have no money. this is generally a taboo. i am not a supporter of what is there, that there is no taboo, you just need to explain to the child what you mean by the situation we have no money. well, because i caught myself, for example, thinking that i was also saying this phrase. but by that i mean not that i have no money. what, for example, there is no money in the wallet in cash, yes or

money, for example, is not planned now for some additional purchases. yes and now, if you explain to a child the meaning behind that phrase, when you say, when there is no money, it's quite all right. she's right here in the store right now. yes? no, right here and now. yes, especially for small children. this is all very important. please take a piece of paper and write down that we are actually starting to teach children. here, as anna says, there almost from the cradle. well well from two to three years and all situations. you need to beat here now nothing is postponed for later the question is not what to refuse, but to explain why you do it and the children understand, of course, the children understand, here i will tell you examples again with my own how we entered the history of saving pocket money and so on. well, in general , it is recommended to start giving pocket money there in the range from five to eight years. we started a little early, but it was straight forward. the situation we had was a ritual, we went with him. well, there a couple of times a week after kindergarten in

shopping center to buy cars, and at some point we come, and he says, my mother doesn’t want a car there, i want a puppy patrol base, it costs here a puppy patrol base, which costs 7,500 rubles. well, the child was not yet 3 years old. i say, dear, it's great, but i won't buy the base for you now. look how big it is, it will fit all your cars. she costs a lot of money. now i'm not ready to pay so much money. well, he's kind of like that. well, how upset i am. i say, but you and i can save there, what is save, we can buy me cars , we will all put this money in a piggy bank. yes, everything on this, as it were, ended, the story of the moment. we came home so that he agreed, yes, that is, he understood, well, how would i have it once there i was left with empty hands. we came home, and we made a big piggy bank out of the box with our own hands. they painted everything there, glued bazuch patrols on it, and i entered the mode. that's where those very pocket money, yes, that is, i began to give him 200 rubles there. at the beginning of the week it was all so

a little artificial. here i give you. well , because otherwise, he will forget him and now this story is not super updated. here, and for a long time we saved up, then i raised it there d500 rubles. to quickly save up, when i saw that interest was already a little lost. well, after a while there a couple of months. he probably accumulated he had this amount of 7.5 thousand. we took it out of the piggy bank. we have added a tracker. that is, we they wrote down what we put in the piggy bank there, i naturally helped him there they introduced all this. here he got it. i say, well, class. you can buy a very puppy patrol base. or you can not buy or spend on something else given the opportunity to choose. yes, here she is. and here is the resource. yes, he chose not to choose dad. more precisely, why the patrol. we never bought it. he spent it on some of his toys, then some other ideas he had. but this is the very essence of what he accumulated, what he was able to do, what he was waiting for. this it was very cool, and the money went. piggy bank just by the fact of the passage of some time or for something there was motivation additionally

at first. this story was not. well, that is , it was just what we call pocket money, which is given unconditionally during the week, and on fridays 200 rubles. then 500 rubles. it's just that's definitely money, and now it also continues. it’s just that now he already has more interest in this, when it became clear already at a slightly older age that well, it seems that i want more, that’s when we began to invent any ideas, what else is possible, well , already see how the labor income for this or what? yes, then i actively led a block just for children's financial education, and i asked him to give it and you will pose for me like uh. well, how about as a photographer? i will take a picture and a 200 rubles. here is one right for the photo shoot, where i chose several photos of high quality. i also added this to his piggy bank. well, as ideas, now he already has quite a few different ideas. he is now even such a small business. you started here, well, that is, this is the developing part. dad takes part, of course, but since dad is also yes, there is a financial market financier and he is also very

interested in this whole story with children. he comes up with different contexts too. for example, now danya is very fond of gymnastics. well, just so professionally, yes, that is, he is already entering the competition. here he is progressing, he has certain records. well, for example, he is now the last record 20 times he began to pull himself up. here dad, as if spontaneously, without my agreement, decided that 2,000 from mom 2,000 from dad for that this is your achievement. this is how he replenished. actually now for 4,000 piggy bank of his dream. he's saving up straight a lot of 42.000 for an atv. and he has a little left. in general, here is such a, in principle, a good question from the language, there have never been situations. do you know how? well, in general, it happens, probably, in the families that you advise. mom, then conducts strict accounting control of 500 rubles. so a week, and then he comes, dad says, well, you have 1,000 rubles on your son. well done, absolutely this story is the same. i rather in our family, and the topic is more of an accountant who likes to calculate here.

planning for a shorter term, the husband is a strategist. here he sits down once a year and draws an excel table with our budget. let 's see what kind of strategic savings rate we have this year, that's all, and we don't set standards for this anymore. maybe savings. you are even my difficult audience. now it will go into the bag. we can postpone. e for your financial goals, for example, or for an airbag, how would it end. well that is, conditionally there, we looked at the budget , figured out, there, we want to go there , some more big expenses, and we understand that there is conditionally 15% of our income. we can certainly postpone. this is what we call what happens after all. in this situation , when well, there is one of the parents, let it be the mother in this case, that is, she goes under strict control, then 500 rubles. and here comes dad strategist. as he says, well, son, you are done, you will support 20. here you have 2,000 and the child has. here is the guy for these 500 rubles. per month. i'd rather pull up. papa walk. well, this is really very vital, yes, and in different ways there are

manifestations manifest themselves in different ways in such situations, for example, now dad, when he announced that 2,000 rubles. for pulling up. i am like that. well, you know what dear? get out of your budget. me, too, these 2.000. and i'm like no for me. well, in general, i asked him to finance these 4,000 rubles. well, because it’s really in my personal budget, it ’s like, well, it’s some kind of spontaneous story. here we need to negotiate, of course, we need to at some point, clarify certain rules with grandmothers. this is often the same as this, because they directly like to finance something. there's some money to give for something. what's an envelope, huh? what is unacceptable, for example, in a family, that's why we need to discuss, of course, we need to agree. it doesn't just happen, because grandmothers are there and offended. maybe a transition is taking place or you have switched or you advise from cash in the form to non-cash excellent question i am a supporter of the need to drive a card at nine years old eight, that is, when the child is already sufficiently formed. he understands neural connections, including some responsibility for the fact that this is a financial product. yes, she's personal. besides, he's great

at it. well, learn to count. and this is the feeling of texture. yes, money is a commodity that can be exchanged, that they can be examined banknotes. there geography is a must. and now, i believe that until 8:00-9 years. this should definitely be in cash, because it is important for children to live. this is the cash invoice. relations and understand, yes, they wrote down the money, that up to 8-9 years. it is the tactile sensations of money that are very important, that this is an exchange commodity, that it is a certain commodity for which you can buy any other goods is very important. sberbarket i yes and give give, give for restaurants, food hot ride sbermarket we force from cafe restaurants for free use the promotional code food food and get a discount of 400 rubles. deposit the best percentage of the scope with a rate of up to 12% per annum rate on deposits in banks. all

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was just to knock you can not knock home from 15 minutes. this is an easy money podcast, i am its host mikhail khanov today we are talking about the financial education of children, parents control the card account. i recommend that you know that there should be such flexible control, that is, it is interesting what happens in the child in his interaction with money. but if you

have already given him this money, and they are his property there, in fact, climb into them and clearly say spend on this, do not spend on this. but it's kind of wrong as far as bank card control is concerned, here, uh, up to 14 years of a bank card. in any case , it is tied to the account of the parent and the parents are operational in one way or another. maybe another question is he doing it or not? i will check this issue now. well, really, as parents, he himself is within the framework of his own rules. yes, he wants to do it my position is about what is interesting, what is happening there, it is interesting to look at the texture. here's how i spent it, as you have questions. but this, among other things, forms a dialogue yes, and here is the ability to talk about money in general. but to convey the idea that you don’t need to spend stopudovo on this at all, or you did a bad job on this one. it seems wrong to me because it killed this solution. they must do it. if to get away, at what age i always recommend that as soon as the child has his own money cashback should appear. well, that is, conditionally

, the book is a notebook there for six, but six or seven years. this, of course, it could be just a piece of paper, yes, it could be some kind of financial unique, now there are quite a lot of such invoices, it could be a notebook that he made himself, you drew it there graph yes, and so on, but it structures very well . generally the brain that the money came. here they are spent on this, and so on. well, in fact, it forms a habit with an entrepreneurial skill or, after all, entrepreneurship. this is some i don't know like god's gift sparks of entrepreneurship. addiction predisposition, because not every child. keeping a budget will become an entrepreneur. i understand this helps or this. and you know, it seems to me, yes, i understand perfectly. but it seems to me that these are a little really different skills, and this one is the ability to fix it. it's more about accounting some skills it's a tool. yes, and if a child has developed this, well, this creative potential fuse, this tool

will also help me. actually the question is this, this is, uh, routine, luck of money. here it will be. that doesn't kill. this is the flight of fancy. it seems to me that if you make it interesting. well, that is conditionally pasted over with stickers and take felt-tip pens. yes, there to introduce some kind of creative context, it will be cool. if it's straight, you have to sit down to write down the accounting there, of course, it will kill. yes, that's why children need to bring this element of the game of creativity there to paint with paints what it is. well, in general, yes, this is a tool that the main thing is not to turn into a goal and an end in itself. it's just one of adult level tools understand that this is not an end in itself in yes, that is, it is a tool that allows. there's a better move to financial. goals and so on. and the children have the same story. they should learn how to use this tool in childhood, when they run out of pocket money. good question. yet again. i think every family is different. here we must understand that again there is some official history. the child can

officially start earning himself. here's the money. yes, when he pays taxes on them at 14 years, yes, then you and i know the figure of 18 years, when we, by law, must, well, support children, at least at some minimum there. yes, and then we understand that there is still a certain human norm, there and so on, when parents, well, anyway, throughout the formation of a child, even if he is no longer a child, but somehow helps him. here the question is this coverage. uh, let's say the cost of existence, or is it just pocket money, that is, after 18. here's how you think this is the closure of needs, and then listen dear. so you want to have money? yes, i think, i think, something like this, that is, if we call the pocket money the money that we give conditionally to the child for wishlist, and all of its such basic part is closed by some kind of money, which we, for example, will call the parent base. yes, that is, for his needs, then pocket money, however, should end exactly before

the age of 18, or even earlier. yes, that is, well, my, for example, parental goal is that they will end, somewhere around 14 exactly, because hurt, for example, life's journey. yes, and my financial maturation was about the fact that at 14:00 i started to earn money myself and i did not have any essence. that's a la pocket money did not want. i worked as an aerobics trainer for young children. it was my first part-time job, and then i worked in a store. yes, they studied at school and worked. yes, and some combined in the evening. yeah, well, i've been practicing. i had a lot of time. here is your occupation in the gym and yes, well, it’s not that it was somehow taken out of context. then i'm on vacation worked, for example, as a salesman in a stationery store. well, there were some of them, i have a story. was it your personal desire, or was it helping your parents. i have a question for you, they provided enough money in the family and my parents did not provoke me to go earn money. and solnechnogorsk is the moscow region. well , i had a personal desire to get out, as

it were, into such financial independence. yes, why. i remember, of course, we went to the competitions in the united states of america and i came with some such changed outlook in general about the market economy, and the ninety-eighth. so i decided that it seems that i want to start doing something, because i want the opportunity to buy more and somehow see the world there. well, it's understandable that i started to look at the world later, but in general it was a very strong exit for me. here is the framework for the life in which i lived, but then we went to study. yes, then i had a fairly standard story. well, that is, i graduated from high school in the context of making money. you continued to earn when you went to leave forever. yes, yes, of course , my parents helped me for some time, but this feeling that you yourself do something and earn money was very important for me from the first year. i worked right here

in the work book officially. yes, the situation is reversed. but you have slipped should have to provide. there, under 18 years old, the situation is reversed. children should help their parents. i don’t have a ready-made answer there, that this is how it should be or this is how it should be. and we have such a culture, in general , mutual assistance. yes, that is, it is clear that we explain. here we help grandmother, for example, we help there, all the grandmothers there, we help some other people. and this is the culture of mutual assistance about charity, including, it is present, we discuss it, and we go into this one and participate there for some good. we races and so on. will some context grow here that he will help there, when he becomes an adult, well, i don’t know, it’s hard for me to say in such a way as to put pressure in this direction and speak. that's where you have to help. tra-ta-ta, because that's the way it is, rather, no, because this idea does not respond to me myself , yes, that is, i want him to either understand, thanks to the culture of education, that this is good, that this is correct on some examples, he saw it

, if he considers that is it good and right? yes, but in such a way as to directly say that you owe it, probably, well, it contradicts my values, including, but returning to the topic of teenagers and money, depending on the time period. why, the weekly quarterly, that is, let's say so. i correctly understood that at the age of 14, it is generally desirable to stop this story depending on the time. it seems to me, yes, that is, 14 years is m something that already brings the child into an official opportunity for a part-time job. well, it seems to me that it’s cool if he directly tries and thinks about it and makes good money on his wishlist when the shoes are financiers in the family. both support this story support this ideology theory. and dad, at least does not interfere, but with you some stuffing. well, or, on the contrary, he says, something has touched some nonsense, it’s wasted here time, it’s not clear what the child will be there for, don’t spoil his life. yes, i 'll play with him. and what to do when one of the parents? and i understand that often

happens? it could be the father and vice versa. yes , there mom is everything. and what to do, how to actually communicate with each other to parents to understand that the issue is more psychology, but nevertheless it is psychology. that's exactly financial education. are there any correct words or techniques there? how to convince uh husband or wife to support you in this undertaking, i would say that to convince directly, if someone is strongly against it and does not want to enter, here is some new context. this is true, probably not a very rewarding job, because, well, we are already adults, in principle, and it is difficult. yes, there, probably to convince. if someone doesn't want to do something. here you can just do some of your own actions. yes , there is a demonstration of what, for example, is obtained by some kind of stories by some kind of discussion. here. well, if i'm like a mom, it's an honor to do it. yes, i'm studying for example, i start buying some books there to organize the environment around. this is just to demonstrate. what do you see, as it were, well, they did this, of course.