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and i went ahead into space for a walk, it was just the sixtieth anniversary of the flight, i was like gagarin on a tour, it was interesting, i listened to him how cool exactly two weeks had passed, the phone almost rang. are you doing something like lyosha? i say so and so. i say, in general, now they are taking care of walking, they say, well, now there will be a long serious conversation. come back home. sit down and talk and i was offered at the beginning without any details. just a project for which you will have to give up everything that connects you at that moment with others some projects, but with very interesting prospects. i kind of say, maybe i thought there myself for a couple of days, of course, it’s already shaking into space, they said that the backup crew, of course, that is , initially the climate is our locomotive that moved this whole project, they said they couldn’t find understudy. at that time, i was already 40 there and, in principle, i kind of think that it was space flights somewhere. it's there, like gagarin titov yes, there are 27-25 years old, and here 40 -
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where does it come from? maybe not, what kind of flights? where am i? well, they say that like i looked at klin. well, a little younger than me, as it were, why not try? of course, this is the kind of thing that once in a lifetime, you can face it and not try to refuse to give up. it's not in our history. i say, yes, ok. and then in 3 days, in my opinion, in two or three days. i went to the central committee of star city. to pass the first selections , the first testing, as if you can simply tell the therapist how it happened. it was touching, because before that i was in star city when we were here filmed about leonov then came and looked and realized that we have nothing for us there. but even then it was interesting, because everyone walked around all these centrifuge halls. it’s something, well, it’s like a structure that beckons you with its unexploredness, because you can’t help but feel
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this spirit that hovers everywhere with vodka, that is, actually come to star city. and if astronautics is not alien to you, in principle, in spirit, then you are imbued with this atmosphere there and you see all these people, who flew there into space will fly. now or something else, it's so mesmerizing. of course i drove. my heart was pounding inside there, plus i slept there after a long shift, 2 hours without sleep and i arrive and, as i remember now, measures the pressure, says, says suspiciously, go sit in the corridor. i think, well, that’s it, in general , this is my visit, this should be the end of my flights into space . i i say, yes, i slept and i say. well, slept like 2 hours they say like two hours. well, that's how my shift here at 4:00 in the morning ended at six, i have to get up to go to you at eight to be here . well, then we'll
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always talk. okay, everything was taken . we had breakfast, the pressure, then 120 to 80, everything is fine. we looked at the pulse come on. then everything, as it were, quickly passed all the doctors who were there, sent this hospital in volynskoe, quickly a hospital, as i already jumped into as they say in the outgoing train, because if i had not harnessed myself, then in these coming days and before the may holidays i would not have had time to go to the voronezh hospital. that, in principle, as they say, the project would be in question, because there is no understudy, without an understudy the project. maybe it won’t take place at all, as it were, because, what if something doesn’t work. no, respectively, not films, nothing. and yet this one, as it were, also a burden of responsibility, it presses a little, but nothing of the vaz hospital passed easily. just right there by the handle. they took you in all offices. what was the most difficult medical test it is difficult to say there was nothing medical. well, everyone was afraid of vision,
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because i was probably worried too, because the age is already 40 years old with a camera. we are working. you constantly look, as if, you never know what, well, everything seems to be fine. and dentists, but i was never afraid to treat my teeth there, so someday i will definitely go there. well , it was necessary to remove two wisdom teeth there, as if they had to be removed. so what to do? of course, i had to, but psychologists of psychologists - this is it was interesting, because everything seems to be familiar, everything is fine. but when you ask the simplest question, you actually have 5 minutes, you need 5 minutes to talk about yourself. it would seem that there are 5 minutes and talk about yourself. and it turned out to be very difficult. yes, yes, that is, you start like that and tell quickly. one-one-one-one-one. and they tell you, well, everything, they tell you, and 2 minutes have passed. you have three more things to say. and here comes such a stupor. that is, you are so oh
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, i seem to have told everything and it seems. to us it’s unusual to return again, where there in childhood, khakassia, and now you start to come up with something like this. some of your stories, well, do not invent, namely , invent, how to connect a-a events taking place in your life. now there events since childhood. and just like that , little by little, little by little, for 5 minutes. we pulled the conversation, it seems good. well, then we had a nice talk. sat down at the computer. these are long, long tests, when you need to go through everything. and of course, what they don’t tell you right away no results. this is another tense moment. that is, you seem to be telling you there, yes, people, this is what i will do. they will do it and you seem to be doing it, and then and this is the unknown. she, too, anyway. we are always accustomed to doing something, got the result there, as if rather dissatisfied, well , by itself, the pressure went on your selection. let's say. so selection. yes, that's two, a little less than two weeks, and started with your spaceflight training and started right here. rapidly. what classes did you have
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workout. at first we thought it would be. everything is simple. well, they will come to us and tell us something there once, and that one started, firstly, for the first time. this is when we singled out such a stack of literature. these are all we need. yes, it's still important there will be tests and exams and so on. wow. well, you open it and like a training manual, at the institute you had such thin, plump, different pamphlets , you start reading. and the design of the ship's layout, that is, on the one hand , you don't understand why on the other hand? you are for you fly on this and you should know, at least where what is, who is what? what is responsible for and in which case, as they say, which button to press. and what to do came in handy technically, probably, education, because the teachers at the ctc seem to get used to a certain basic set of technical terms that are known. well, let's say this to all technical people, that is, there are spars of hoses, everyone knows everything, as it were, well, that is,
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they asked any person what a hose is, and then such quadrupers came, which are frames. it's like beautiful words. what is it hmm no one can say. and here, technical knowledge probably came in handy. i was such a translator from russian into russian. that is, i seemed to be translating ordinary russian terms in a simpler language. and we had such a cool chat here, in which the guys even when they go there or read something to prepare for some kind of tests threw off questions. i answered them quickly. and this helped all of us, because, firstly, the connection somehow quickly improved. we didn’t have this race in the main crew and duplicating we there must be someone cooler someone else we had such a really cool family team. we all helped each other in some way. and this is the training already in the crew, artem commander, you and alena were a little lucky, because i met sasha
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the day before, well, there in advance, yes, and then he suggested that i go through more training with him, along with the japanese went to training. yes, a trainer. everything would be like that initially all the flight crews all went to training in flight crews for a flight commission for a flash said that like, no, we are only in spacesuits, only everything, as it should be in battle. yes, what does it have to do with it was funny, we met there in the locker room in the gym, as if after training there. he says, and what do you say next, i say next, i myself prepare, and let's go to burn the ship. well, of course, let's go burn the ships. well, that's it, you have lunch and then the bitterness of the ships, and this is the first training, the bitterness of the ship. i remember how i weighed myself afterwards. uh took it off. i put my underwear on the scales, it turned out that minus there is 0.7, in my opinion, there is 700 grams. i lost in one session. i thought, that is, you worked out 10 on a case earlier. and
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so, when we started training with oleg. i was already somehow accustomed to being calmer, because not only was i already imbued with a colleague, like a person to a person. could we be techies there for a long time as i remember our first meeting, after we, and we are given these books. we sat in our office. in this, they went out into the street, got up with oleg and talked for about two and a half to three hours. they just stood by the car and said something. and so it's all somehow easy it was like you were with this person this person. you know, already there all my life the last days in the rental. of course, you can then watch it on the computer monitor in your phone. or on tv but it's not that time to see
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the call, the way it should be seen on a huge screen with an amazing footprint. we invite you to the cinema. we continue our conversation with alexey dudin, and his work in the project is a challenge. and what, in your opinion, was the most risky moment for the project challenge. everything was so interesting that you don't feel it. not here it's not a risk, nor a danger to you somehow. well , how to tear turns you on, that's the whole story. that is, i remember our marine survival. yes, it was a hot summer. we arrived we were, that is, in the morning there was the main crew in the afternoon duplicating yours. i mean, we 're coming. it's already 35 degrees hot inside the descent vehicle. approximately the same, only he is still standing in the sun, as if
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it heats stuffy, everything is closed. there is practically no ventilation. and you still need to change clothes, take off your spacesuit, the three of you, somehow hide it somewhere to put it on everything itself, it’s still warming, then it’s still sealed in this trout, but it’s kind of like that, but we were lucky. we had lyosha mechuk, and as an instructor in our crew, as if oleg oleg was just with you at the training in the states, and here we were replacing the instructor. and we somehow just as easily joked about everything, we even remember, then the psychologists who are watching all this said that they say you just had some kind of idea. not only did we do it quickly, but we met all the standards there, even with some reserve, but at the same time, this atmosphere of mutual assistance multiplied by some other jokes that allowed quite such stress and troubles, yes, relieve all
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this tension and something like that after training, in addition, i wanted to eat more, like, i didn’t want anything, but it’s also like a weightless flight, it seems that before that we all try there klim flew, when we were on the set, and here we fly, but we fly not just, as if shooting, not doing any of our usual business. yes, ah, we are flying to make a 10 spacesuit in zero gravity. there some to see how the interaction of one chat with another is going on. just learning to control yourself has not yet been filmed. it's just ours here, uh, as if the preparation was going on. and it was a little exciting too, because for the first time you had clear tasks that were unusual for you. so you say that you were well, the main dublish, crew yes, like one family, but you had such thoughts that you would still fly, thoughts, probably, were not. well, so that's the type i should fly there, i'm sure i'm not. we immediately developed such that we have. here, as it were,
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the guys are the main crew and our task is to do everything the same as they do. well, they do it the right way. eh, how should i do it? as prescribed to do everything well such that the race is rivalry, of course not. on the contrary, as i say, i tried as much as possible and to tell some technical things that were easily given to me, i was always ready to share and also, as if the camera was branded to him, well, not completely alien, but something like that, that is, the camera on which we shot, he does not know how he sets it up. yes, how to turn it on? well maybe preparation for the flight into space, but at the same time he began to prepare himself for the filming of films. here's a little. tell me about it, firstly, always a movie is such big cars, a big car with cameras arrives. big car on the ground. yes, but you can’t send all this into space, so
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these quick searches began, what to come up with, on the one hand, not to limit yourself too much, but on the other hand. still, we are flying to shoot a movie, but it must be some kind of serious technique, some tests were quickly made, and moreover, we needed to still agree on all this, because the astronaut. well, you can't send it into space. something that needs to be tested. therefore, the equipment was taken to the energy in energy company, tested for thermal stability, explosion safety fire resistance. well, i don’t know everything is electric there, everything was brought in, tested and, as it were, a certain minimum basic set was compiled for us, which would allow us to shoot a movie after all, but just like weightlessness and the camera moves quite differently, like v ordinary life. that is, you can’t put it there and you are still moving and you had to come up with some kind of equipment. how would this mount system, so that it is easy to control the camera. at the same time, you still need to cling
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to somehow control your body yourself, that is, you need to be able to do everything with one hand. and astakhov sergey valentinovich was attracted. this is our famous oldest cameraman. together with him, a mounting system for the camera was invented. that is, this is such a body kit on the camera, and which allowed you to directly with one hand it is easy to control the camera in zero gravity, but the camera is very complicated there is a number of settings. yes, she does not shoot in the machine. there, everything had to be done only by hand, yes, that’s why they invented all all the mechanisms and so that it was convenient for one person to shoot with one hand, so that the second one could control himself, plus, but for safety, we are all the same. at the last moment , the autofocus camera was then corrected, which , moreover, helped us by the fact that the guys were able to shoot at the time of the rocket launch, that is, such a small one that fit in one hand
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could be easily controlled with active screens, and at the same time we made tests of it. she was very well glued to the camera, which was the main one for filming. and this small camera allowed me to film the moment of the starter filmed after you yourself know that yulia helped him pull it out of the container, the camera was assembled and ready for a year the camera was immediately ready to shoot and it was filming until the moment of docking, that is, it is like this, as if a small amount of lighting equipment were sent, then eat while training while we were on the ground. we went through all sections. yes, we went through the entire station in a mock-up on the simulator, we went through and looked at what scheme is recommended for a particular scene, that is, we went through all the scenes with our feet and, let's say, we woke up, that is, we also took small cameras filmed. the way it was, well, the way it was planned to shoot, then
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in space. yes, we passed. they did, they even memorized some kind of montage of the light scheme. we sketched everything, where which toggle switch should be turned on, what should be turned off? uh and sent an additional three panels, a small compact lighting panel with batteries that could be hung. that is, every day every scene was pre- planned. yes, even on the ground. here, and yana trofimova, who is the climate assistant. here we are , together with her, i developed the technical part. on the basis of all this, i would develop, let's say in the cinema , a staging plan is called a checkpoint. this is the checkpoint we had such a big footcloth at baikonur when we had it on the fourth floor in the room everything was hung up there was a straight lined scheme. what day at what moment? because we also wedged in your main job, that is, not that you have guys there for 12 days and you just have 12 days to do what you want. no, as if there is a main job for the astronauts. let
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's say this. here, cut out these minutes for hours. in order to still shoot a movie, and we kind of prepared, that is, the guys were preparing, they had hours of preparation there, when they were clearing something, they were transferring equipment that was cleared, one or another compartment in which to shoot. and then the strictly allotted 40 minutes of time there are some 2 hours of time. i remember, that is, here we lined it up so that we could shoot this scene at this moment, this scene at this moment, this episode at this moment. this was all scheduled for all the days of the flight. and after we filmed, let 's just say that in the afternoon we went to bed klim e, sat down at the computer, looked through the footage and immediately dumped it on the ground for you. and you were just in that team, well, which was constantly 24 hours a day a day. i needed my own room. as far as i remember, yes was constantly on duty, considering the material that he filmed. yes, yes, we
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have developed the same reset system. well, that is, initially there was a transfer system, as it were, of material in general of any files and with the station to the court, but as i understand it, it was not quite debugged, there and so on, because for such a volume, but initially it was not ready. and this is also, uh, our project that made it possible. the development of this high-speed data transmission system was so spurred on by our russian independent data transmission system for dumping our material. that is, they worked directly on our project. it was worked out, skated , debugged. and now it works right. that's very good. as far as i understand now, this is a directly trouble-free system that allows really very large volumes. we use the computers that were at the station at that moment, but we wrote the program. which allowed the lama to count the material, who shoots the camera, because the camera is large and terabytes of cinematic volumes, of course, no one will quickly
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drop to the ground, but everyone needs this feedback and feedback is needed for it. yes, we have looked and seen how there are some adjustments, because while there is time for hot. something you can reshoot something to your prompted. we prompted what settings do. and, well, firstly, after we saw the first time in a live station filmed on camera. we realized that the color of the walls is a different color of the light on the k e at the station another for the first night, but the whole scheme of light was rewritten for the entire project in general. and then we watched, that is, the wedge recalculated the material, converted sent it. i drove in the morning, and took this material into energy and brought it to court. we sat and watched the editor come. immediately these materials were re-read for the editor, the editor sat down to edit. and by the evening, we had ready -assembled pieces of the film, right here are the scenes that were filmed, we threw them back to see the climate. here is the feedback get some benefit from us. we had two
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videoconferences. one morning, let's say , analysis of what will be filmed, and in the evening, analysis of stopping tasks. well, because the task. yes, i still have. uh, people ask, did they really fly into space 366, did they really shoot a movie? because as far as you remember after landing. let's start a fake. yes, on the internet, that the card on which everything was filmed was lost and lost. and well, you now understand technically it doesn’t seem to have any effect, even without ten some card. and not only that, guys, when they flew away, a copy of the material remained on the iss, because you see the plus is that every night you drop what was being dropped , that is, the material was on earth already at that moment let it not be of such quality, but, in in principle, even tolerantly it was possible to display it on the screens, but a fake was born, just all
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the same, the materials that are descended, they are marked in one way or another. yes, that is , orange is there - this is urgent cargo. everything else. it was then that these were marked, seems to be like urgent shipments, but they stowage didn't fit in the right place. right on the machine , that's why it was filmed, but it was wrapped with such orange tape, orange tape on a black background was not considered, so the guys who climbed out of energy and took away all these urgent cargoes. they didn't consider that, well, it wasn't identified to them. in an urgent cargo, the capsule was sealed further, and moreover, it fell out a little more from the place where the bed, about which klin said that she was right there right there. she fell out and fell behind the seat, so they could not immediately pull it out so i was born. here is this fake, that there are no materials, lesh, you were an understudy. we know that you were wearing a spacesuit. are you personal? by the way, where? he is now at your house, if, as far as i understand, he was now flying a vangulu to a particular conference. yes, your
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space suit is being used in demand. yes, they send me photos that so i can say that i was a part of me in angola, because this is still my skafa , tell me your feelings when we were already in rocket. uh-huh, rocket launch itself, or how do you remember, yes, we flew away. you know what was going on inside you, to be honest, and yulia talked about it, everyone said that it was a feeling that this was some kind of unreality of what was happening. that's until the guys actually flew, while they flew into the rocket. we always thought that now, at the last moment , you know how the prank is like that and i’ll go out, i’ll say that if you pat yourself, the whole reality show is over, well done. and it's only later when the guys hit the rocket, we finally, then, we felt that it was for real, that it would really be a flight now. ah, well for the guys. this is some kind of you understand what is happening at this moment. you understand all the degrees of risk, you appreciate it all and you worry about them, but at the same time you rejoice because, in principle, in general, this project has taken place. and that
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it really is, we continue our conversation, perhaps in the future you were trained by cosmonaut alexei lyosh. let accelerated, but it is fully prepared for flights into space. the only thing you don't flew, and so you were completely ready certified. you can share your plans for the future. i understand that it has already caught fire already astronautics and no way a boy. yes, that is, you now understand that it is really possible to do this. psychologists , doctors, our physical education coaches checked you. that is, you are , in principle, good for space flights. but not only that, i, as it were, cannot say before that that i was such a super athletic person. i , too, experienced this a little, that is, there once in my childhood. yes, you had everything there i went to hand-to-hand combat there, like there was physical training, then filming began. this is some kind of strange uncontrolled process, which, probably, physical education in general cannot be connected with anti-free culture in any way. it seems that you run around with a camera, but you are not athletic. and this, probably, instilled some
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faith in their own strength. that is, not only did i understand that i was healthy, it was actually worth the quarantine just for the sake of it, and then mmm. i fired up, physical education run. while i started running, then i did it and decided do not throw. even despite the fact that everything has passed, you keep yours. i think that i am now physically even better than 2 years ago. and of course, when i now found out that there will be a set. i thought why not open open set. yeah why not? if they perfectly understand that you have great chances, everyone knows you. well, they know, yes, i remember, as it were, for everyone, as it were, for our instructors, that there were good reviews and, well, as it were, in general, it happened in principle. so, it seems that everything is there, all the prerequisites to try are. well, that is, again a chance that hmm doesn't come every time, so why not. well, yes. and although we have an age limit, that is,
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the third 5 years is an exception here, but here is a different case. yes, i can’t quickly wedge in as an external student before passing exams to catch up with leaving technical education. yes, i think we already have one candidate. i was happy. you are now somehow preparing, in addition to the fact that he began to run and maintain his physical form. well, how to cook? i at least try, physically, yes, that is, i go to i work out in the gym regularly with a trainer. well, i physically feel that it’s definitely better, and plus i still have all my manuals, which are well, not manuals, but all my notes from our lectures. i can quickly refresh everything. well, in my head i realized that despite the fact that my education there, even at the institute , ended there 20 years ago, no matter how they have all the knowledge, they have not gone away. that is, it's like this is engineering. you have it, or you have it, or you don't, or you don't have anything. mom has it and then you have it all easily. just given or not. but you understand that the preparation will no longer be 3 1/2 months. here is the first in 8 years. are you ready to leave
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your now favorite profession to go to the detachment. maybe eight. maybe, like oleg, your commander is ready for the first flight at 10:00. now here are the new ships. it's already about a quarter now , and you'll be all set. it also seems to understand, you understand the report that yes, this is a chance to try, but why do you want to fly into space? firstly, these are some films that have already been shot. yes the movie was made by god with him. well, first of all, you can shoot much, much more. i understand that i even know that a lot of what the video filmed was not included in the film. and to show, given that you are already a professional cameraman, because it means that you can shoot professionally professionally, firstly, many things, many experiments that are carried out, they do not cover so much. well, that is, in general , no one covered astronautics, so why not now there is a high-speed data transmission system. we have a little left equipment. well, you can certainly do something else.
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well, that is, in any case, i can be useful to society , namely, as an operator, namely, as operators, as space conditionally, yes, that is, if you flew, i can also do all the technical things that ordinary astronauts do . i can do it all. what to do, plus it can be somehow interesting to cover and make this cosmos more accessible to everyone to force the same boys there, who now didn’t exist, there the eighties there are 10 years, roughly speaking, there 7-8-10, with whom we can also be forced to dream, but not what to force, but simply to show that all this is possible. what is possible at any moment for everyone? and you can change your life at any moment, and you never know what will go on, therefore, first of all , you need to be ready for everything, and this, as it were , tempered us and the soviet union, and then all these nineties there were tempered, what you need to be ready for everything that is in there today you have one at a time tomorrow you wake up, in general the world is different and probably that's why we can
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it's easy to re-adjust to re-adjust plus the knowledge that you never know what can be useful to you in life , therefore, in fact, you always need to learn something , always discover something new for yourself, read , uh, get, like all the information that you can i began to get it, having heard some new topic, these became interesting to you. well, sit and dig. now everything is much easier. it used to be necessary to go to the library to find some book. you don't really know what to look for. you heard about spaceships. a you don’t know what to read, now on the internet i typed a spaceship clapping and that’s it. you can see it there schemes, up to which flights the history of development is now easy and simple , therefore, in fact, children who are growing up now and who are interested in everything about them are much easier, they have a wider field of information, but you said in one of the interviews, what bothered you more than all the preparation. she was under the close supervision of medical instructors and so on. that is , you understand that at the station, when we fly across
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half a year with the same close attention of specialists who are in the same doctor's mortar. athletes and so on. well, i'm already used to it, that is, these six months there. not only that, i’m already used to it, it’s probably even interesting, because before that you understand such cool phrases in the cinema. she's like all the gods behind the scenes. yes, there are actors who are in the frame and here they are, as if all the people who are behind the scenes are behind the camera behind the monitors for 7 you don’t seem to see them, but these are the people who create here too, probably for the first time i had to be forced to become a person who, because of the frame , moved into the frame, because not only did the instructors, doctors and psychologists, look after us. everything, everything, as it were, i understand that the whole industry was following us, plus they also came to shoot the first channel, which they then released, as it were, a big yes program about us. and all this, of course,
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put a little pressure on me, but i remember that then it was easy to rebuild somehow, in principle, already, like one big family. you understand that it's already yours your friends are all you communicate with everyone. and this is such pressure. no. it was at first at first yes it was lyosh let's dream up what you think a person will do in 50 years in space. i think that, m-m, first of all, the flight itself will become more accessible, because now we see how rapidly astronautics is developing right now, that is, before that it was such a completely closed community, in which it was very difficult get in. now it's much easier, much easier, but i hope that we will still reach the moon, possibly mars this is much closer. yes, the lunar module. now to go this year already, which means, well, how will the exploration of the moon continue? new ships are being built, new stations and the number of people will increase, because right now the americans are already flying there under
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a quarter of our new ships, which are also being built four and even seven human. yes, you can go there as much as possible, if that is, if everything now starts to develop at such a pace, then we will soon be able to send a full-fledged film crew there and the number of dreamers will grow up to be able to fly, because anyway, space is some kind of dream, right? all when we think, here we are looking at the sky. so, when we go and dream about something, we willy-nilly raise our heads. and we are always beckoned. this is in the evening, when you go you will always be stars, we all watch how they come out. the moon is what is magically bewitching, and now, probably, these dreams come true. in 50 years it will be much easier easier. alexey i sincerely wish you that you go through all the stages of selection , fly into space, perhaps make the first film about the moon on the moon that was cool and accurate. i know that you will succeed, because you are
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an aspiring person. you have a very valuable experience of passing. e to astronaut. thanks, our conversation has come to an end. today my guest was alexei dudin cameraman. a participant in the grandiose challenge project, i am anton shkappers, this was a podcast of space stories. this is sometimes something that never happened, described by someone who has never been there, as one spanish playwright believed. hello , today we gathered our thoughts about stories. whether it is a strict science or
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, as one historian said, a prophecy about the past, dear friends viktoria ivanovna ukolova, doctor of historical sciences , the last roman woman, as viktor vasilyev calls alexander of historical sciences, i am vladimir igor yes, a candidate of political sciences, so i’m very scared, firstly, you are representatives of science or not, now we will find out. well, here we have political science. why do i want to start ucollingwood in his famous, so to speak, work of the british historian. eat. e, such thought at the beginning that history is for human self-knowledge. i’m here, in order not to go overboard, i’ll just read out the value of history lies in the fact that thanks to it we find out what a person has done and thus, what he is victoria, how would you respond to this thought. you know, history, first of all, is needed by every human generation in order to find itself in the flow of time and in the flow
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of universal life, because only by turning and opposing oneself to something that was before that one can self-identify, therefore history is the most important factor in the existence of mankind. that is almost like nature. how do you comment. well, actually, yes history. as a matter of fact, it really is about us, but about us in time, because about us in statics to understand, in general , nothing is possible, well, about how to look at well, yes, and fully imagine a person's life. it is very difficult. there, photography is always in general, deceptive, and in time, yes, and, especially with previous generations. and we can say a lot, and hmm actually. we are specifically studying themselves in time in order to really about themselves.

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