and he prepared me for entering the school of the moscow art theater studio, i wanted him to go home. this is the sixty-eighth year, the sixty-eighth year. yes, the end of the sixties and, uh, he studied with me a little and selected the repertoire and introduced me to me with his student viktor karlovich monyukov, the famous professor at the moscow art theater school, and he listened to me, and, in general, i have there was support. already before the selection committee, because the maniacs were part of the selection committee , you still didn’t have some kind of confidence. not that there was no confidence, but they supported me here such wonderful people read, remember interesting, i read the tale of the golden cockerel. pushkin that you are a golden golden cockerel. this is a cockerel, then he fed me. when i already entered the philharmonic in the shtets literary department for children after graduation . studios and began to give concerts in

schools. i spoke with this golden cockerel in schools hundreds of times, well, this is a wonderful text by pushkin, because it’s just that such a pearl is not like that, listen, like the children of his wonderful, in general, children listen to pushkin wonderfully and gorky by the way, i read gorky as a child and i will ask you a little later, just read something, this is just a topic that i will not hide for discussion, because not every actor feeds. here is such a taste. how do you like reading, but he reads literature less often. maybe i'm wrong, but they rarely read, uh, plays and dramas. fragments of the concert concert concept, of course, sum up the matter , in my opinion, yursky is read literary or simply, yes, this time and even a parallel profession, because there is none there.

there is no costume, scenography, no, nothing. yes, you yourself the text depends on you, of course, on the author in first of all, of course, and the author takes you out and leads and leads you understand, her and the height of the author to his equipment, the author, mmm. this is, of course , you. well, how, how you are not alone, after all, you are not alone, you have a huge range. e, hmm different registers and i really love your work , including e in the genre of reading a literary word. as they say, maybe uh, so improvisation, you would agree to read something. you mentioned the childhood of maxim gorky, it will be you know, i read a small piece. hmm, a fragment, that's about how after the grandfather flogged alyosha alyosha is the main character of the story grandfather. this is his grandfather.

yes? this is grandfather kashirin alyosha, this is gorky himself , the future writer. yes and now, uh, when i was punished for a prank there , i will whip very cruelty in this. you know why my grandfather caught me unconscious. he writes bitter things in this book, and then the boy gets sick. i just fell ill, came to my senses from feeling bad and could not lie down. only on the stomach, the back was all broken. with rods, family members began to come to visit him and grandfather himself came, by the way, apologizing for what he had done, and then gorky wrote that i understood that grandfather was not angry and not terrible, but the main gypsy came there. it was such a foundling raised in the house by a grandmother, and

this gypsy came to visit alyosha, a square , broad-chested with a huge curly head, and he appeared in the evening. festively dressed in a golden silk shirt, sending trousers and creaking harmonica boots and shining, his hair sparkled, cheerful slanting eyes under thick eyebrows and white teeth. under the dark a strip of young mustache, his shirt burned, softly, reflecting the red light that did not extinguish the lamp. you glyanka said, he rolled up my hand. and showing a bare arm up to the elbow in red welts. even worse was healed a lot. do you feel how the grandfather began to enter into a rage, i feel and see constipation. he started to substitute this hand for you , waiting for the pond to break, grandfather gives for another. and a woman will drag you away do not alimate. well, the pond didn't break, wet and flexible. and what

do you like less? ha ha, you see how he laughed again with a silky gentle laugh, laughing, looking at his hand and talking. so i felt sorry for you, that it was a disaster, and he whips, snorting at the horse, shaking his head, the gypsies began to say something on matters that were immediately close to me, childish simple. i told him that i love him very much. he simply answered meekly. yes, i love you too. but he mistook pain for love. did i start for someone else, for whom i didn’t even give a damn, then i began to teach me quietly often looked back at the door, when they suddenly burn you, they will flog you, don’t shrink, don’t squeeze the body, and you loosen it freely kiselyov lies down and don't pout. breathe in all of ari and you remember good obscenities, well. i asked if they would flog again. and how calmly the gypsies answered you, go to often they will

fight. and why does grandfather find and start teaching again if he cuts from a canopy, just put it on top in a vine, lie softly freely. but if i’m heavy now, if he hits them towards himself , pulls the vine to remove the skin, then you wiggle your body towards him, it’s easier. i am in this business with me and the most quarterly i have from the skin of even the neck of the neck, i looked at him and remembered grandmothers. about ivan tsarevich, about ivan the fool, such a fragment is amazing. you know, i remember, kisselyon lies. this is, of course, my childhood reading. i remember this scene, but i have left . exactly this phrase kisselyon lies. i didn't remember at all. eh, and thank you for reminding me of this, that, uh, alyosha, uh, well, it’s like trying on grandfather. yes, it’s just a pity that through such torment. yes, yes, yes it is now

they would say that this is a fashionable childhood injury, it was painful to remember that it was he who beat me so severely, but also to forget about it. i don't could this is an amazing story. and what's the contrast with another children's trilogy? yes , because the name of gorky's trilogy is childhood in my people, universities, but this clearly refers. this is tolstoy's technology. and childhood, patronymic youth could not have had such things, but there were others . yes, there were. this is, uh, a wonderful thing to read korikov. well, here's what i remember very well. your work is on top. and i understand that asking you more, something would be wrong, but uh, that's how it is in the army. a i also heard and was just shocked at how you do it.

there is also a lot of cruel, a lot of rough rough violent - this is a book that came out in the mid-twenties and actually it is, but another picture. hmm civil war, if you like for centuries. yes, of course, i think it's epic. that's how quiet longer shelkovsky. it seems to me that this is the kunarmy. hmm , because there it is very motley, these are separate short stories. yes, this collection is tired, but this is a patchwork quilt. this so all-??? expresses salt. remember the story, of course i told it to me at the age of 15. he was offered to read more than anyone, i did not understand how the women gave out a huge piece of salt for a baby. yes, to be taken on a train, to be taken during the civil war. and when the red army soldiers realized that there was salt, they were a baby, they shot her slowly, right? i

didn't know how to read this time, how can i justify. do you understand this shooting? well , there was still no polyphonic perception of life, then we were brought up, still very straightforward enough in soviet times. yes , quite straightforward, so uh, i realized that i could not read it then, but now i would take it, of course, of course, with understanding now with it. eh, here is our 20th russian century, of course, this is the concentration, as it were, of everything. what happened to russia in the 20th century. there is so much violence so much tragedy, how can you read all this? here is lydia guinnessburg, a wonderful literary critic. mm. he says that babel does not change his voice, that is, he writes with equal intonation about suffering and about the beauty of the sun. rolling like a severed head. for example , he has the image of his first wife crossing the bruch. and i have a question that is not even an amateur. fana,

well, how to approach this? what is here? perhaps feeling is one thing when a reader , alone with himself somewhere in the evening, reads such prose. and as an actor or a reader, if this word does not jar on you, how he does it to a woman is very ascetic, despite the brightness, he very much selected expressive means. he's got everything so tight. oh, they even drove a scander saying that even through excessively compressed the very beginning of the story there is nowhere further than this i spend the spring to compress. well, yes, well , iskander thought so, but this asceticism suits himself, as an author, as a writer, that it is necessary to squeeze out everything superfluous absolutely. you know, maybe there is some contradiction here. maybe i'm wrong, but such redundancy,

e stylistic constructions and mechanism of feelings. yes, e, he is rather laconic not in the selection of verbal means, but in a row, because in the selection of any means of selection. yes, and he doesn’t have it. you can’t squeeze more water. in his prose you don’t understand, uh, and i once. we walked together with mikhail mikhailovich with zhvanetsky e, at one event. i say mikhail mikhailovich. i'm doing a babel program now, nothing more difficult for mere memorization. i didn't have to. uh, teach. he says, of course, because it is a language, that is, it is its own language. here babel is very helpful, by the way, the performer understands that this is not some kind of language that can be gleaned from a dictionary. yes, this is organic, which somehow

shapes you very much. do you understand? i always have, very it seemed strange or mysterious that, yes, it could not be sympathized with. that is , as soon as you try to have pity on someone and die, because when a young jewish woman lived, she says that her father was killed and her hacked father lies nearby. she speaks calmly, and where in the world can you find a father like my father? that is, if you think about this situation, yes, what lies dead, i don’t even want to say it. is it possible for them to react directly to sympathize, or do they also need some kind of distance? if you try to sympathize with such a mountain? such a cutter are you a performer or a performer? yes, i'm interested. exactly as you should, of course. eh, here it is necessary not as he said, dmitry nikolaevich zhuravlev must keep himself on the reins. uh-huh, you can't let yourself go.

eh, that’s all, a sentimental experience , you can’t dissolve in it and you can’t bathe in it, you can’t enjoy it, but you need to lead very much. oh yes, the author's line. yeah , the author's speech is the author's voice, that is , they felt the author's not what is happening between these people doing it. this is a very important story even in such tragic things can be seen. i, for example, uh, when telling tyutchev to students, uh, i say that there are some of them there . of course, there was no cruelty in the verses. there is death. it sometimes happens there in the deniseev cycle, but nevertheless there is tragedy. yes, of course, as deadly. yes, of course, she was sitting on the floor and sorting through a pile of letters, how she took the burned-out hall, removed their hands and threw them away. yes, and there is the possibility of love,

the collapse, the tragedy of love. here it is, yes, yes everywhere, she lay in forgetting everything and taking into account covered, but i'm talking about the fact that tyutchev sometimes gets to some kind of look that is not available to a simple person. there is a certain private beginning of the world to be silent. what is the night of seminary silence, but somewhere at night somewhere the money. yes, i was especially struck by the line, as if an ethereal stream flowed through the elderly sky. that is, you can just die if you imagine that the sky is passing through you. hmm the sky is the world, uh, amazing story, he is like nikolaevich well, in general, in the theater, um, it is customary to say that the main thing, after all, is a gesture, the main thing is scenography home. how to stay on stage? yes , because the theater is the art of action, as we know, according to aristotle, but in the theater there is a word, as well as for literature. as for the word in the theater, it has some specifics, what

happens to the word when it hits the stage, when the actor pronounces it. do you know that and how long does it take us to play different texts? mm, we understand the value of a good text. to a strong author who is strong in terms of mastery of the word, precisely when we play weak literature, and yes, yes, here something has to be something. it means to compensate m-m for the lack of strength and words. uh-huh that is, if the word is strong, uh, and talented, then nothing more needs to be done. it is necessary to express it, to express it exactly , you understand, it cannot be spoiled to convey it, but it holds itself, a visual gesture is not intonation

no costumes get here and the viewer begins. associate thinking of himself in connection with what he heard died does not know the full effect. yes, he does not know that the audience everyone thinks about their own when you are armed with a strong word, then you are protected and you are protected from failure because you are the author he gives you, he gives you, and he works for you and find out, i once read fazili iskander in concerts. once i invited him to a performance at the theatre. he watched modern sitcom. well, then he sits. i have tonechka , his wife, anton nikolaevna, behind me. yes, a fazelle in the back. i say abdul how do you mean? he says,

well, actually says very well. very good. tempo it still seems to me that in the theater the main word we mentioned was listening. to the hangar. nikolaevich yes, we have a program in the theater of the nation, you are really welcome. this is how the hare himself signed and covered the period of almost the end of the great patriotic war when he had already fought. ska was, victory was already close to berlin and suddenly he was arrested for correspondence with a friend and began. this is his ordeal. these camps, these links, and so on and so forth, how he defeated cancer, yes, yes. yes, yes, it was hard to prepare for death. and how he survived. and as he began to write, he did not absorb the clatter, which is generally unbearable. yes, and how i began to think, but

in general about russia of the 20th century and wrote books about it, and its history, and its fate in the 20th century. that's about this performance, this short, by the way, an hour and a half young actors. yes, yes, our team directed marina brusnikina, yes, with her youth and with me, andrey dubov was our pianist, because alexandra still loved music very much before receiving the nobel prize nemilo all this way from imagine this is a selection from a selection. yes? yes, yes, yes galina andreevna tyurina made this script, yes, yes, which my colleague directly liked. yes, very captivating. somehow we they did it at first in the art theater . marina did brusnikin for the anniversary, alexandrovich for the centenary, and there it was very much in

the seventeenth year. yes, and there are a lot of young people there, almost all the youth of the art theater were employed. you know, i saw at the rehearsal. what an impression is obeyed punishes the youth even before they leave the audience to gain a foothold, and you know it, it was such a school for them. well done, that they did it in the art theater. you know, i even spoke to our young artists afterwards. they are so very remember. this is this project. as such an important personal story for himself, which he did not survive. yes, it happens, yes, it's one thing. yes, it should be. well, at least. before those who are in the orbit , konstantin sergeevich stanislavsky, of course, yes, yes, tenderly tender. eh, some time ago i grew up with a phrase that nothing can be played. you need to grow it all in yourself. yes,

stanislavsky says something like this that you can’t imitate anything , you can’t imitate anything. you just need to find some kind of support in yourself, so oleg dal told me. he is life ground theater. yes, of course, of course, yes, shchepkinskoye is famous and he said that boris andreevich babkin, the actor is threshing the famous legendary performer chipai, that he was already a little inclined in years, he said all gray-haired, only now i realized that nothing needs to be played. it's a great phrase to open up a lot for me, because i, uh, really love what you do on stage, but always thanks, it's clear, how it is, how it is from the inside and here thank you so much, by the way, yeah, we didn't mention it yet about anton pavlovich chekhov yes, yes, this is also a whole

universe, i staged graduation performances with students. ivanov chekhov and the guys managed a lesser known play. she is also very important. the guys coped, in general, chekhov is very difficult, of course, for the young, you absolutely know, here we are now, uncle vanya, a new premiere at the art theater of the chekhov moscow art theater and the name of chekhov yes and, uh, we gathered for the first reading, the director came , says, well, let's read the roles. for the first time, everyone saw each other and became read. and you know, at this reading , i was suddenly absolutely surprised in an incredible way

by how relevant it is, as if chekhov is our contemporary, ours, and this is how it happens to be a classic. do you understand? i still think, maybe i'm wrong, of course, the greatest pushkin e. and dostoevsky but in chekhov begins what is our modernity. in the truest sense, without any discount without distance. this is a person who speaks to us in our language right to kill wrote correctly. nemirovich danchenko chekhov what give us, please, a seagull. chekhov did not want it to fail petersburg failed. yes, give us, please, because i feel that the modern theater is new new. in the theater, the new theater cannot be born without your plays, but it is so true, because eh is unspeakable. she is generally who i ask the students. they

answer. i am a seagull a seagull is an amazing phrase. it is not clear what kind of person is in each person. the secret in a big little one is that what we see now, well, i can’t help but say that in our museum, in the state museum of russian history literature named after vladimir ivanovich dahl, and most recently, after restoration, the chekhov house on sadovy kudrinskaya was opened. i know that once you considered this place yours, and i spoke there and more than once read chekhov there as a smerchinovnik. it's a wonderful room. here on the second floor, and now this order has been preserved there. here is an amazing story. i am directly inviting you on the air to chekhov's house, and as a visitor and, of course, as an executive. yeah, with the pleasure of an artist here, we will be terribly terribly happy, because, of course, avangard nikolaevich every second of communication with you is happiness, because speaking with you.

eh, you involuntarily join what is considered to be a classic, but it is not always customary to talk about this, so it is convenient, as if to say, well, shakespeare is great. yes, like kharms pushkin is great, uh, and okay, when will it all end, in my opinion, chekhov is all over here and it’s not customary to talk about it. and it works with you. eh, it’s not for nothing that our , uh, podcast is called. let them not say beads read. of course, we talked to you, but we spoke primarily so that everyone who hears and sees us, uh, read literature more, love it, as she says nikolaevich leontiev, people's artist of russia , our today's guest. thank you very much. thanks for the conversation, because it's very interesting. thank you, i am sure that we are with you more than once. see you, all the best. thank you

hello everyone. my name is tatyana gevorkyan, this is a podcast that is not embroidered and today we will talk about fashion as an industry and as a social phenomenon. today my guest is a blogger journalist and a fashion enthusiast really arina kholina designer svetlana rodina hello girls. hello joke. hi can i just say. hello girls, let's start right from the beginning, how trends are formed, who invents them, who dictates them or borrows them or borrows them from some 20 years ago about color trends. there is such a brilliant classic story, the tenth sixties. well, in principle , in europe, europe is just in the post-war crisis and cognac, which we know is cognac, of course, is a drink and they say, we call armenians,

then they, uh, suddenly asked for a dramatic drop in sales, but it was almost desperation and someone from well, from some final company there had some kind of connection with a fabric factory and a person comes up with such a story persuades this uh fabric manufacturer. well, in principle, the fashion industry is also not on the rise at that moment, yes, the entire economy in europe is destroyed. so in general, he didn’t care whether it was a gray fabric or a horse-colored fabric, they, in principle, took some more or less brown fabric of their own. they called this color like cognac accordingly, they persuaded some diors there conditionally, yes, to introduce this color and the cognac just happened. well, first of all, it was very fashionable to be in cognac color, that is , brown clothes, and some incredible growth turned out. simply phenomenal, they raised themselves again to super heights. well, uh, again, when it appears now, there is the color of champagne. yes, an observation according to this scheme, and

because we really have a designation of colors in russian. they are what they are, and in english they have a color. cognac, they have color, camel, well done they have champagne we don't have. e very camels more than once, while these magazines of ours were still there and are not used once a month. uh, like, oh, the trend of this week again, surprise, the color of champagne went to the flowers , for example, today we watched you have the color of a champagne flower and the kremlin, you have typical cocoa, yes, there is more champagne here, probably somewhere the designers would call it. how is it called? ocher? what about ocher? yes, i have. well, what yes, it's more crucian, like an ocher pigment, but i know a little that i didn’t want to add, what, for example , is amazing in russia. there are crafts and

lace. yes, and embroidery and this russian craft, i want to say that, for example, when we presented the first collection in japan, then japan, for example, yes, beans there they had such a beautiful woman, because they adore our own traditions. why are we taking so long? this is the post-soviet time they denied what? no-no-no we are not russian. this is russian speech. heard abroad. we are all encrypted. we are all under them. this is disgusting, because in fact we have amazing roots we have incredible traditions in russia and actually just the idea is to take from there, and that experience. really global, because well, to be honest in france, uh, there was fashion in italy, it was and there really is amazing fashion in america, but we, for example, now there are those people who speak in fashion, in general, now we are on our own. we ourselves are such cool fellows that it is also wrong that they have a lot that can be adopted by adapting for us, see now there has been such a trend. do you all remember we remember everything plus or minus,

the end of the nineties yes, the beginning of the two thousandth trend for sexuality feminine silhouettes are things that you also once find in your wardrobe, old ones. they seem to be two sizes too small. and now the fashion for oversize oversize is convenience. this will be positive, does this mean that women began to dress for themselves, and not for men, that is, now they are trying less to emphasize sexuality. you know, it seems to me that just now, firstly, everything has returned some kind of corsets. you know, another sticky, that's what you said, it's not only we got fat on the topic yes, well, in general , yes, you really start to wear some larger one, at least a t-shirt and then you don’t understand how it sticks so-so in the underarm, but a little different . the main material is different. he has almost all the material now about the meeting. it's more comfortable breathable and tech materials, if they're

semi-synthetic, uh, they're very comfortable in a different way than those nineties stuff for example. and listen, well, firstly, since the nineties there was already a canon there, then the universe has come. uh, was the japanese cuba some kind of diet? this is generally separate from the system is such a story, as the belgians were too. yes? well, listen, it’s still a lot, so it’s not exactly something wild, directly niche, when it was called smart fashion. yes, now it’s, well, we throw it in a different way, but firstly, it depends on fabrics. if only she was such a hoodie for me. some kind of translucent from some kind of veil , i don’t know the felt wool, it would fit differently and show the body sexuality, in general, this is not about over or slim here, uh, here i will hold you for sure, yes, not now. here people men do not take part in our conversation. i think they are about oversize, how they fall apart. i want something to

say on the contrary, well, even posting. yes, if you take, then, for example, the larger the over thing. for example, a woman looks more feminine in it. realistically, for example, a woman. look, it's great there. skinny fat. it's all in the head. tan, well, that we are already all here . oh, it's only tall and thin. and that's just high. and it may be that it turns out, that if trends are dictated by designers, then let's say. i love aries very much. this is of course, after all, they also suddenly understood for there, let's say during the pandemic, what about, but how convenient it is to walk, let's go. let's eat this trend and we'll just wear it all. i think that, most likely, of course, also a social manifestation. everyone was sitting at home. remember at some point, surely you know there was a surge, after everyone went out, everyone went in sweatpants. e in such at home. yes, it's so convenient and really everyone understood that it was possible, like not meet. every day. you can spend there, like on zoom, everyone began to appreciate the time of communication, there is something else. yes, and things

, including, i think, then everyone got tired of this and feathers appeared. you understand, yes, how it works too, like at some point , for example, after the pandemic, for example, the color of the pontoon was the main one, it's golden with bright red in such a you know, uh in a brilliant amount and you know how it is for example uh trend bureau. e, for example, described how the explosion of lava, as if an avalanche came out like this people came out, like, you know, now the conclusion of the feeling was that everything was really great. bright super shiny, yes, that is, it was really. a holiday like this, when you know everything, the same confinement came out over well , look how great it looks. take the same one there gigi hadis was, yes, and thin waist, low rise super overjeans some huge dicks, and i think it's super. uh, well this is a reflection of all social phenomena of social political phenomena. yes world. well, as far as i remember, here. uh, very cool

the whole world was then promoted by a wetman, uh, vassal. she came out in this kind of down jacket. here a down jacket went somewhere in the back. well, i somehow cut there, of course, some kind of bra stuck out, what is it? she looked unbelievably hot in it, so look who we're dressing for and that's sexy. listen well, i now believe that when people i am a big mistake. he says that i am out of fashion even if a person runs back to the darkest corner, and they really try to create there, perhaps it turns out just a personal personal unique style. we live, in general, the space cannot fail to reach even the fact that you come to the store. and, for example, there will be jeans, there will still be up to 20 styles, but they will all be in trend. well, or teach, yes, but still you will evoke it further. here, let's say the nineties then there was still a topic, especially in russia that all women are conditionally speaking, there, at the age of 20, in principle, it doesn’t matter for the enrichment of a rich man. well,

the task is to get married. at least she shimmered. and when you're like, well, wait no, when you're out of twenty to twenty five, you really feel the obligation to get married. well, it’s also desirable not quite for a boozer and, uh, there is no money, right? i'll surprise you nothing has changed. he is something else. no, wait, it's just very arguable that everything has changed. so, in short, naturally, if you have a super-task, you try to achieve it as much as possible by everyone at once. ways. what are the trends that have emerged over the past year? well, over you yourself said over a long time ago. well, you know, it’s either bigger or smaller, because there were corsets. not no, i don’t mean, you know right, that’s all the same t-shirts and corsets. well, like, when it's just sewn under a corset, well, that is, a silhouette and pseudo. well, let's say so. yes, so to speak. yes, my personal

pain is what is gone. uh, low-waisted jeans are back. here it is the low waist that was coming back everywhere. i now with a low waist some. i have always loved, just to drive. you have it like this, how it was right at zero. yeah, i believe me, i went to college. i had jeans with a low waist, and in the winter 20's and a short jacket. i was walking here with a bare stomach at -20 as a child. everything was different in youth, now nothing returns in the form of a dictatorship. now they are returning again. i don’t know where they went, but conditionally yes, then, into what they blurt out there. oh, mom is happy again. yes, people are already tired of chasing trends. and in general, many designers rely on basic wardrobe, so fashion as a phenomenon representing new trends every season. it’s already somehow a little outdated, doesn’t it seem to you that fashion, as a phenomenon, on the contrary, is even more relevant, because motov, in principle, is like that, but

something if we take the fash industry as a reflection of social reality and designers who analyze as analysts. yes, fashion trends a year ahead, because a collection for buyers enters the fashion market for the first time, that is, yes, for experiments further for a month already with retail in another six months it is put up on the market, now designers are really working on a collection, and the next summer already. it was a podcast not bast, embroidered. journalists and blogger arina kholina and designer svetlana rodina were in our studio today, smiling. masha let's go together.

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