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hello, my name is dmitry bug , the next episode of the podcast is on the air, let them not say it, let them read the title itself. you, of course, understand that we are talking about literature about reading, about how books are written , how books are read, what happens to literature in its subsequent fate, one of the roads for the development of literature is theater and cinema, these arts interact very closely in the twentieth

century, and in the theater, of course, even earlier, and about everything about it. today we will speak with a wonderful guest. today we have a folk artist. e of the russian federation avangard nikolaevich leontiev hello avangard. hello nikolaevich. dmitry petrovich is very glad that you agreed to come to us, uh, talk about literature, theater, of course, and hmm and uh, according to tradition. let's start from the beginning. well, how did it happen to you that you became an actor? it’s a trivial question , a strange question. well, it happens by accident , sometimes it’s the essence of life from childhood, just like it all happened to you, avangai nikolaevich my father dreamed nikolai ivanovich dreamed of being an actor and even he did it he was involved in amateur performances in the city of orel and even he entered, uh, to seld-meerhold for the highest directing course

, amazing, he wrote uh, an explication of the play based on the children of vanyushin found and he should have been accepted or accepted, but my mother, and they didn’t get married at that time . it’s like she’s somehow bohemian. well, i got scared. she did not allow her father to go. you are her representation of the theater - this is, first of all, what kind of scenes after such. i think that mom and dad loved each other very much and were faithful all their lives. talk to each other a lot about housing years together, but they were very jealous. i think mom was jealous. i think this is the point. yes, of course, not bohemianism. yes , because the theater, it does not happen, it does not happen that the theater of a person is an actress. secondly, the theater is another life. it usually draws the person in. well , of course, well, by the way, orel is the literary capital of russia, so it is customary to consider this black earth zone

boris the end of no hares, our most famous and writer, who lived in exile for most of his life. he said that the russian north gives birth to saints, and the russian black earth gives birth to artists. this is a very accurate look from the eagle bound. it is easier to tell who is not bound. yes turgenev bunin andrey leskov giant peaks. was this somehow in your consciousness or not? or is it just family over time? over time, you know. my brother is older than him. 82 years old he wrote a book, even oryol stories. he sat in khimki in the library. there is a department of the main library of the country, which we call lenin by inertia. he read all the newspapers that were published in orel all the way up to seventeenth year of the xx century. there was such an intense artistic life,

literary life and journalistic life. yes, from the newspapers, it means that everything is connected with these names that you mentioned and some stories there turned out to be small , tiny, so unique. and just imagine, here he is so carried away by all this so that our oryol roots. here we are now , especially with age, we feel, well, here’s how it turned out that you have become no longer yourself. actor like your father, but professional? it started before uh, school moscow art theater studios yes, it began at home at all kinds of family holidays, he always performed. uh, before school, and and and valery tells me that i’m at a christmas tree somewhere, you know, on new year’s, this is a company that takes children there to matinees, that i was reading

mikhalkov’s fables in the background. i don’t remember this, i mean, it was so long ago, you know. it was so early, childhood, i still wanted to speak publicly. i would like to perform. yes, it's great fun. that's why for some people such as food, for example. well, it's very clear to me, too, i teach at the studio school, how much. i see these people, but it’s also very important here and the story is changing, because there are many famous actors who are famous for their roles, but not all of them have a taste for reading from the stage. this is a special profession, but in soviet times and in public soviet times they said that these were masters of the artistic word, legendary uh, people of nikolaevich zhuravlev, yes, yes, who traveled around the region. yes, i was very lucky, because i'm already studying at the amateur school.

there was a drama club at school, but still, a smart person advised me to go to the house of pioneers, the city house of pioneers, and i came to the studio of artistic expression, which was led by anna gavrilovna bovshik, a former actress. the first art theater studio is a very famous one. she is a student of suerzhitsky. vakhtangov and stanislavsky stanislavsky was planted by stanislavsky’s father, it turns out, yes, and so, uh, anna spoke. e, an outstanding educator in recent years. she was and taught speech in the chamber theater, yes and not only and, but here are children to children since the thirty- sixth year hmm xx century. yes, an actress with such a school to teach e yes. and you know

that the children simply adored her and she was simply a very honorable person for us. we didn’t know this word yet, but we were so kind to me and there i learned a lot, because it was an art theater school, but this is just such luck. she said, but as a teacher to young men very young. this is big, which means she was the guardian of the archive of her husband, the writer. e sigismunda k zhirnov these are the great ones, whose authors during their lifetime wrote very little only in translation somewhere, but his books were never published. he died in the fiftieth year of the twentieth century. here she is, and began knocking on the thresholds of the editorial office to get something published. well, nothing worked.

she handed over this archive to the orgalium, to the rocks, and told me, one day, that when i handed over the archive to the sigizkas, it was written, but they’ll get it. yes, yes, i handed it over to the skyri, someday it will be published , she said, he gavrilovna is an idiot to her. the fifteen-year-old thought to himself never they will print it and here it is 2001-2002. i'm standing in a bookstore on pushkin square. and i don't believe my eyes. sigismund kryzhanovsky three volumes, yes, yes, a luxurious super cover with luxurious photographs, a wonderful author , never like anyone else, mystical , so vicious, yes, the manuscripts do not burn. you understand, then i remembered, i immediately bought these three toms and then came out. three more volumes, two dissertations were defended simultaneously. well, one perlmutter appeared. this is very

important so that someone then not only relatives. he did a lot in one turning point in the morning, darskoe evgeniy vorobyov, those who defended their dissertations. so this is the story that happens that a person, well, during his lifetime, uh, is not recognized, and then he says recognition is more difficult, because there is no record. yes, if it is not recognized, no, it does not happen. no, no, an actor should generally live by his generation, if they didn’t recognize him. no, you know, i have the old thought that my hands are actually burning, because there are very few such examples when a person during his lifetime they don’t know him at all, and then he resurrects, and they didn’t know krzhizhanovsky for external reasons. these are simply censored soviet reasons, otherwise solzhenitsyn well, he still printed it. here is wardovsky, thank god, a clamp, he printed one thing there. well,

i didn’t want anything else, two of them scattered the set , they didn’t allow it to be removed, and then it was all taken away from the library. they forbade it. the man wrote and wrote and that’s it. you can read this too, a miracle , a miracle, a mathematics teacher from ryazan, unknown to anyone with such camp experience, is to the new world of alexander trifonovich tvardovsky. eh, brings this story or story, they say it differently and suddenly a miracle happens, yes, because this is a great text. sberbank presents the first loan with cashback. they won't approve. how much do i take on a heads loan? tails loan? stop guessing.

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then after on gavrilovna after? and he said i met dmitry nikolaevich zhuravlev, a great reader , a great perfect artist of the soviet union , and he prepared me for entering the moscow art theater school, i went to berries. this is the sixty-eighth year sixty-eighth yes, the end of the sixties and uh, he worked with me a little and selected the repertoire and introduced me me with my student viktor karlovich monikov, the famous professor at the moscow art theater school, and he listened to me, and in general, i had support. now before the selection committee, because munyakov was part of the selection committee , there was still some kind of confidence, no confidence, but i was supported by such wonderful people, they respected me, remember it’s interesting. i read a fairy tale about the golden cockerel. pushkin that you are

a golden cockerel, this is a cockerel, then he fed me. when i entered the philharmonic society into the reading department, the literary reading department after after graduating from the studio school, he began to read concerts in schools. i have performed with this golden cockerel in schools hundreds of times, well, this is a wonderful text. it’s just such a pearl, listen to how wonderful his children are, in general. children listen to pushkin wonderfully and to gorky. by the way, i read gorky as a child. and i’ll ask you just a little later. will read this just a topic that i will not hide preparing for discussion, because not every actor has it. this is what it tastes like. how do you like reading? well, they read literature less often. maybe i may be wrong, but i read plays and dramas less often. fragments. concert concert. well, of course, you give, in my opinion, a jurassic memory. yes,

mostly particles read literary or simply, yes, this time and even a parallel profession, because there is no suit there. no, teamwork. no, nothing, nothing. yes, you yourself depend on you, of course, on the author in the first place, of course, i'm the author of you idiot video, you understand the height of the author of his equipment, the author, mmm. this is, of course, you. well, how, how, you are not alone, after all, you are not alone , you have a huge range. eh, hmm different registers i really love your works , including those in the genre of reading literary words. as they say, maybe uh, so improvisation, you would agree to read something. you mentioned the childhood of maxim

gorky, this will be me reading in a small piece. hmm, a fragment about how after his grandfather whipped alyosha, alyosha is the main character of the children's story, his grandfather. yes, this is grandfather alyosha kashirin - this is gorky next year himself, the writer. yes and so, when he was punished for a childish prank there, he was very cruel. here now you know what you get for. me until i lost consciousness. he writes bitter things in this book , and then the boy gets sick. i just fell ill, came to my senses from not feeling well, and could not lie down. only on the stomach, the back was all broken. family members began to come to see him with rods and grandfather himself came, by the way, he apologized for

what he had done and gorky then wrote that i realized that grandfather was not angry and not terrible, but the main one was a gypsy. it was such a foundling raised in the house by his grandmother. and so this gypsy girl came to visit allyosha, square, broad-chested with a huge curly head, and he appeared in the evening, festively dressed in a golden silk shirt, sending pants and creaky harmonica boots and his hair sparkled, his cheerful slanting eyes under thick eyebrows and white teeth. under the dark stripe of a young mustache, a shirt burned, softly, reflecting the red light that did not extinguish the lamp. with this glance he told me, rolling up his hand. and showing his bare arm up to the elbow covered in red welts. it was much worse. can you smell it? as my grandfather began to fly into a rage, i sensed and saw that

he would screw up. he started to substitute this hand for you , waiting for the pond to break, grandfather gives for another. and the woman will drag you away. don’t worry. well, the pond didn’t break, it’s flexible and soaked. and what did you get less of? ha ha, you see how much he laughed again with a silky gentle laugh, laughing, looking at his hand and talking. so i felt sorry for you, that it was a disaster, and he whips, snorting at the horse, shaking his head, the gypsies began to say something on business immediately close to me, simple children. i told him that i was very love him. he answered unforgettably simply. yes, because i love you too. but he also mistook pain for love. did i really start for someone else for whom i didn’t even give a damn, then i began to teach me to quietly often look back at the door, when they suddenly burn you, they’ll flog you, don’t shrink, don’t squeeze your body, and you loosen it freely

kiselyov lies and don’t puff up breathe in all ari and good swearing you remember this, okay. i asked if they would still flog me. and how calmly the gypsy answered you, they’ll fight you often. and why will grandfather find and again he began to teach if he cuts from a canopy, just put it on top in a vine, lie softly freely. and if he flogs with a heavy one, hits them towards him, pulls the lozilla to remove the skin, then you wag your body towards him, it’s easier. i am in this business with me and the most quarterly i have from the skin of even the neck of the neck, i looked at him and remembered my grandmothers. about ivan tsarevich, about ivan the fool, this fragment is amazing. you know, i remember there’s jelly lying around. this is, of course, my childhood reading. i remember this scene, but i still have this is exactly the phrase that lies. i

didn't remember at all. um, and thank you for reminding me of this, that alyosha, uh, well, is kind of trying on his grandfather. yes, it’s just a pity that through such torment. yes, yes, yes this is now they would say that this is a childhood trauma, a fashionable topic. yes, it was painful to remember that it was he who beat me so cruelly, but also to forget about it. i couldn't do it. it's an amazing story. and what's the contrast with the other children's trilogy? yes , because the title of gorky’s trilogy is childhood in people, my universities, but this is clearly a whole. this is tolstoy's technology and childhood, patronymic youth could not have such things, but there were others. yes, there were . thank you for agreeing so impromptu - these are wonderful things to read gorky. well, i still remember it very much. your work is on top. and i understand that asking you more, something

would be wrong, but uh, that's how it is in the army. but i heard it too and was simply shocked by how you do it. there is also a lot of cruel, a lot of rough, rough, violent - this is a book that in the mid-twenties came out and actually it is, but another picture. hmm civil war, if you like for centuries. yes, of course, i think it's epic. this is how quiet longer shelkhovsky is. it seems to me that this is the kunarmy. hmm , because there it is very motley, these are separate short stories. yes, this collection is boring. well, this is a patchwork quilt. this is how salt is expressed. remember the story, of course she told me when i was 15. she suggested reading to him more than anyone else. i didn’t understand how the woman gave out a huge piece of salt

for the baby. yes, so that they would take her on the train, so that they would take her during the civil war. and when the red army soldiers realized that there was salt there, they were a baby, they shot her or not, right? i didn’t know how to read this time, how i could justify it. do you understand this shooting? well , there was not yet a polyphonic perception of life, then we were brought up, it was still very straightforward in soviet times. yes, it's quite straightforward, so uh, i realized that i wouldn't be able to read it then, but now i would take it, of course, of course, with understanding now with him. eh, here is our 20th century russian, of course, this is a concentration like i poyma-12 everything that happened to russia in the 20th century. there is so much violence, so much tragedy, how can you read it all? lydia ginzburg is a wonderful literary critic. mm. he says that babel does not

change his voice, that is, he writes with equal intonation about suffering and about beauty , the sun rolls like a severed head. for example , he has an image. the very first crossing was made through a brook. and this is not even an amateur’s question for me. fana, well, how to approach this? which here? perhaps feeling is one thing when a reader, alone with himself somewhere in the evening , reads such prose. and as an actor or a reader, if this word does not jar on you, how he does it to a woman is very ascetic, despite the brightness, he very much selected expressive means. everything is so compressed with him. they even drove a scander saying that even the very beginning of the story is too compressed, there is nowhere further than this i spend the spring to compress. well, yes, well, so it was considered kander, but this asceticism

suits itself, as an author, as a writer, that it is necessary to squeeze out everything superfluous absolutely. here you know, maybe there is some kind of contradiction here. maybe i'm wrong, but there is such redundancy, e stylistic constructions and the mechanism of feelings. yes, he is rather laconic not in the selection of verbal means, but in a series, because he is also selective in the selection of any means. yes, and he doesn’t have it. you can’t squeeze out more water , no, you don’t understand his prose, uh, and i once. we walked together with mikhail mikhailovich and zhvanetsky, at one event. i say mikhail mikhailovich i ’m now doing a program for babel nothing more difficult to simply remember. i didn't have to. uh, teach. he says, of course , because it is a language, that is, it is its own language.

babelsky helps a lot, by the way, the performer understands that this is not some kind of language that can be found in a dictionary. yes , this is organic matter, which somehow shapes you. do you understand? it always seemed strange or mysterious to me, that yes, one cannot sympathize with this. that is , as soon as you try to feel sorry for someone and you die, because when the young woman lived a jewish woman, she says, who killed her father and her hacked father lies nearby. she says calmly, and where in the world will you find a father like my father? that is, if you think about this situation? why, he’s lying there dead, i don’t even want to say it. is it possible for them to react directly and sympathize with them or do they also need some kind of distance? if you try to sympathize with such a mountain? such a cutter, such a performer or performer are you? yes, i'm

interested. exactly as you should, of course, here it is necessary not as he said. dmitry nikolaevich zhuravlev must keep himself on reins. uh-huh, you can't let yourself go. eh, that’s all, the sentimental experience , you can’t dissolve in it and you can’t bathe in it, you can’t enjoy it, but you really need to lead. uh, yes, the author’s line, hmm , the author’s speech, the author’s voice, that is , they felt the author’s not what was happening between these people. this makes a very important story even in such tragic things it can be seen. for example, uh, when telling students uh, uh, tyutchev i say that there are some of them there. they weren’t treated in poetry, of course, no no cruelty. there is death. there sometimes happens in the deniseev cycle, but nevertheless

tragedy is tragedy. yes of course, oh how murderous we love. yes, of course, she sat on the floor and sorted out a pile of letters, took them like a burnt one, took their hands and threw them away. yes, and there is the possibility of love, the collapse, the tragedy of love. this, yes, yes everywhere, she lay in oblivion and that’s all, her accounting was covered up, but i ’m talking about the fact that tyutchev sometimes gets to some kind of view that is inaccessible to a simple person. there is some private beginning worldwide silence. what is at night it is he who is silent, but somewhere at night somewhere there is day. yes , i was especially struck by the line, as if an ethereal stream flowed through the elderly sky. that is, you can just die if you imagine that they are passing through you, um, the sky, the world, uh , amazing story, he’s like nikolayevich well, in general, in the theater, um, it’s customary to say that the main thing is, after all, the gesture, the main thing is the acting

is the main thing. how to behave on stage? yes , because theater is an art of action, as we know, according to aristotle, but in the theater there is word, as for literature. there is some specificity about the word in the theater, what happens to the word when it hits the stage, when it is pronounced by the actor. you know that since it is we have to play different lyrics. mm, we understand the value of a good text. from the point of view of mastery of words, a strong author has a lot of strength when we play weak literature, but it happens. yes, yes, there is something here . it means to compensate m-m for the lack of power of the word. uh-huh i mean, if the word is strong, uh talented - it's nothing more to do. you need to express it, express

it accurately, you understand, you can’t spoil it to convey it, but it holds it itself, the visual gesture is not intonation not costumes, it gets here and the viewer begins. associate thinking about himself in connection with what he heard died does not know the fullness of the effect. but he doesn’t know that the audience everyone thinks about their own, when you are armed with a strong word, then you are protected and you are protected from failure because the author of you he gives you , he gives you, he gives you, and he is for you works and find out, i once read fazili iskander in concerts. once i invited him to a performance at the theatre. he

watched modern sitcom. well, then he sits behind me, tonechka , his wife nikolaevna da fazil, behind me. i say master. abdul, how do you like it? he says, well, actually says very well. very good. tempo it still seems to me that in the theater the main word we mentioned was listening to the hangar. nikolaevich yes, we have the program te13 and the performance is yours, but the hare himself signed the lie and the period is covered already almost the end of the great patriotic war when he already fought already. ska was, victory was already close to berlin and suddenly he was arrested for correspondence with a friend and began. this is his journey through torment. these camps, these links, and so on and so forth,

how he defeated cancer, yes, yes, yes, he was sick. yes, it was hard to prepare for death. and how he survived. and as he began to write, he did not take himself the clatter, which is generally unbearable. yes, and how he began to think, but in general about russia of the 20th century, and wrote books about it, and its history, and its fate in the 20th century. that's about this performance this short, by the way, an hour and a half young actors. yes, yes , we have the team of marina brusnikina. the director staged, yes, with his youth and with me and andrei dubov as our pianist, because he really loved music before receiving the nobel prize . i don’t have you all this way from imagine this is a selection from a selection. yes? yes, yes, yes galina andreevna tyurina made this script, yes,

yes, which my colleague liked. yes, it was very exciting. once we did this first in the art theater, marina made brusnikina for the anniversary, alexandrovich’s centenary, and there it was very much in the seventeenth year. yes, and there were a lot of young people there, almost all the youth of the art theater. you know, i saw at the rehearsal. what impression does obeying punish on the youth before they go out as spectators, they saw you know, this was such a school for them. well done, that they did it in the art theater. you know, i later even spoke with our young artists and they remember it very much. this is this solzhenitsyn project. as such an important personal history for himself, which is not survived? yes, before those who are in the orbit

of konstantin sergeevich stanislavsky, of course, yes, just tender-tender. eh, some time ago i grew up with a phrase that nothing can be played. you need to grow it all in yourself. yes, of course, you can’t imitate anything, you can’t pretend to be anything, you can’t pretend to be anything . you just need to find some kind of support within yourself, that’s why oleg dal told me then. he is the life of the young theater, of course , of course, yes, shchepkinskoe famous and he said that boris andreevich babatkin, actor thresh famous legendary chipaev performer. yes, yes, yes, yes, he was already a champion for years, all the gray-haired he said, i only now realized that there is no need to play anything. this wonderful phrase will open up a lot for me, because i uh, really love what you do on stage, but always thank you to understand, how is it like

from the inside? and here a huge thank you to you, by the way, yeah, we haven’t mentioned anton pavlovich chekhov yet. yes, this is also a whole universe, i staged graduation performances with students twice. ivanov chekhov and the guys managed a lesser known play. she too very important. the guys coped, in general, chekhov is very difficult, of course, for the young they are absolutely you know, here we are now with uncle vanya a new premiere at the art theater of the moscow art theater named after chekhov and chekhov and chekhov for me yes and uh, hmm we gathered for the first the director came to read, he says, well, let 's read by roles. this is the first time everyone saw each other.