on the air big game is still intense fighting in ukraine is still very, significant international activity rivals the great

powers sergey lavrov headed to jakarta, where he will have important meetings, and at the same time the secretary of state in linkin arrived by train. and to kiev, where, as it were, he explained to what extent the united states is filled with the desire to provide military assistance to ukraine as much as ukraine needs and on the terms that ukraine itself wants to offer, but still the main question. for now. what's this takes place on the battlefield, and in general it is enough. appointed assessments of the nature of e, the dynamics of hostilities. although when i read carefully who says what, i begin to get the impression that in general, in

general, according to the facts, the contradictions are not so big, the contradictions are more concerned. here are the categories glass half full or glass half empty. well, in addition, of course, the preferences of those who talk about it play a big role and it is absolutely clear that president zelensky, for example, what he sees your task. at the moment, prove your e, western, and curator. that not everything is lost, that ukraine is getting something. and that he deserves support. and if you still have to wait, uh, an extra six months, or even a year, then you can still rely on him. well, here's what the official representative of the ministry of defense, lieutenant general kanashakov, says about the nature of hostilities, let's listen. well, in the zaporozhye

direction, a unit of the russian group of troops, supported by aviation artillery and heavy flamethrower systems repelled four attacks, opponents in the areas of settlements willow and work in the zaporozhye region changes in the tactical position of the russian troops. no , up to 40 ukrainian servicemen were destroyed in a day : a tank, two armored combat vehicles, two pickup trucks, two m77 artillery systems manufactured by the united states, three m109 self-propelled artillery mounts. well, from the american side, i have not seen authoritative opinions that the ukrainian offensive. ah, it's developing the way they hoped and they've seen no authoritative statements that a breakthrough of russian defense is taking place. and that the operational success of such statements is somehow beginning to develop? i just didn't see, but there is, uh, an attempt to sound optimistic, looking at the material

that the war really represents and just now, as i said, arrived in kiev, secretary of state anthony blinka. and here is what it has already said. i am here primarily to show our continued support for ukraine as it tries to stop the aggression. we observe good progress in counter offensive. this is very reassuring. we want to make sure that ukraine and everything it needs not only to succeed in the counter-offensive, but also in the long term, so that a very similar aggression does not happen again. well, he somehow thinks that everything is not so bad, and then he also appeared with the president, zelensky just recently and gave even more. uh, optimistic evaluation. uh ruslan pukhov leading military expert our frequent participant what do you think is really going on? well you know you can with absolute certainty

to state that the strategic ukrainian offensive failed even if over the next few weeks , they manage to push us back, as now a little on the zaporizhzhya front or somewhere under bakhmut artyomovsk, but it is quite obvious that those squeezed, let's say so in youth jargon. eh, we have territory. eh, they were given it very hard. this is somewhat reminiscent, you know , the battle of the press slut, when napoleon then went around the field, and the french lost much more people than the russians and germans e prosaki, but said kelm masak alexander the result. what a massacre without results? so now we can already say that those colossal losses, primarily in the manpower that ukraine bears, are not worth absolutely the technical advances that are taking place. uh, exclusively, as i understand it , for political reasons. we can already 100% say that our strike in the north is holding back the offensive, we can already 100%

say that there was a big tactical mistake, uh, and an operational-tactical mistake of the ukrainians in an attempt to repulse attempts in pr. we have bahmut. in general, the situation looks absolutely dead-end and senseless for them. i think it's all just a matter of time. well, and, probably, who will have more reserves , we or the ukrainians, in order to understand. uh, which line will they stop on and, in fact, the weather. uh, it will finally freeze, but the active phase of hostilities. i think this is very accurate. the leading american military expert whom you know well is michael kofman, who of course has his own agenda, because he advises very closely the pentagon, however, is, to put it mildly, one of the sane and competent. he seems to admit that the ukrainian advance, to the extent that it generally took place, is

minimal, and what is the price? as you just said, the ukrainian attacks turned out to have manpower. uh, very, very big, but it sort of pushes. uh, idea two ideas first idea. uh , that russia specifically, general gerasimov , made a mistake by going on counterattacks. because counterattacks, by definition, also cost more than a dead defense, and therefore , if the first line is broken, then russia may not be enough for me for me the problem with this logic. it consists in the fact that so far there hasn’t been such a breakthrough, but you know at the level of pr uh, the approach to the willow after uh hmm the ukrainians entered the work was filed, like either a breakthrough of the surovikin line or a breakthrough of the first

line, e of the surovikin line , therefore, to speak seriously about the fact that some progress is taking place, but in favor of the ukrainian side. uh, this is extremely stupid, going back to michael gluck, but i know well, uh, michael, but i already i notice that you know, he began, uh, to use these synonyms more in favor of the ukrainians. he has everything that concerns ukrainians. the glass is half full everything about the russians is empty, what is the reason michael recently got a new job, he left the cana. uh in another in another feint. it seems to carnegie that carnegie is now taking a radically anti-russian position, and in addition to this, it must be remembered that may, uh, has already been four times in the narrow group of experts, which included him and i know one other american former marine there. roberta is a well-known polish expert whom i am talking about, and for them, in fact

, individual prestures were arranged. yes, they were taken to the front line. and it is absolutely obvious that if you are taken out by one side and not once or even twice, but the second is not, but whom will you sympathize with freely for involuntarily. we have always said that there is at least one thing in which ukrainians are better than us in the field of pr yes, in the field of the ability to cast a shadow on weaving and pass off black for white yes , considering that a works for the kiev regime, so to speak, all pr agencies and all pr forces, so to speak, of the collective west, therefore , the fact that somehow even good and sensible experts manage to somehow turn with such an er, at such an angle that they do you good, so to speak. you know, there are two more things to say about michael coffman, one thing. er, that's what you're absolutely right about. uh, about how they showed him ukraine and what did you see? well,

that's the problem, if you only see from one side. it’s hard for you to draw objective conclusions, but on the russian side he never was. and i was in this area, and i saw these russian fortifications. and i know how serious they are and how difficult it is. even if you overcame the first line, move on. i just never say, because i assume that since i am not an expert and most importantly, because i have not been on the other side. do not know their prospects, then my impressions. in general, it is better for me to take one side with me and start on the basis of such one-sided conclusions. and he suggested

that i want to receive your comments of some kind for me. to success he said that this is a war of a new type, and therefore one cannot judge the success of the ukrainian operation, because how much they managed to advance. here's how to deal with such a statement. you know there is a well-known phrase attributed to churchill and when he was talking about some event and about a speech that should make an argument weak, it will be necessary to earn some money with his voice. why, it seems to me that in this case, uh, and michael uh, and uh, a number of other journalist observers. they are, as it were, uh, finalizing with their voice, something for which there is no e rational arguments. in michael jacket's defense, i listen to his podcasts which he uh hmm and which he hosts and where he is a member in particular from him along with a whole

host of other independent sources. i found out. what colossal losses e are the ukrainians. but he told how they were waiting for the train. uh, with robert lee and saw a huge number of ambulances that drove up to the station. they asked if this was a bad day? there are so many nos, it's a good day , these are there, 70 ambulances and which drove up to pick up the wounded, usually there are more than 100 of them, so er, so to speak, those with ears will hear you. i think you are absolutely right. i didn't mean to attack the blood, who i respect and i feel like when he gives the facts. he tries to give them objective. he's definitely not among the falsifiers, which is why we, uh, discuss his statement. there must be found many funny and frankly propagandistic statements in the american press. they, especially in kievskaya and cosmona, are just one of the people

who should be taken seriously. and therefore we are seriously analyzing it and the fact remains that he says there is no ukrainian breakthrough, ukrainian losses are very high. and if he says that the success of the ukrainian offensive should be regarded not because of how far they managed to advance, then he thereby says that the way the task of this offensive was originally set, what it is considered to be absolutely unrealistic, but nevertheless, from other criteria offers, but he offers me others absolutely right. senators chizhov you have vast experience , great achievements in diplomacy, and now you first deputy chairman of the federation council committee on defense and security, so i want to ask you a question about other statements, uh, that are made

by washington, for example, about the statement of the representative of the official national security council, usa who knows for sure that putin does not need negotiations. let's see , i want to draw the attention of those who ask questions about ending the ukrainian conflict or negotiations ukrainians and president zelensky have clearly and clearly stated the proposal for a just and lasting peace for end of this war. president putin russia has never been interested in participating in such discussions, so the united states will continue to support our ukrainian partners so that they have the opportunity to defend themselves, defend their territorial integrity and their sovereignty fully understood what mr. patel meant that russia does not have , general interest readiness to negotiate. or when he said in such discussions. he meant that there is no readiness to discuss how to implement

the zelensky ultimatum, and you know, i think the problem and for the hotel and its like, and not only in the united states but also in europe , is that they announced this so-called zelensky peace plan as the only possible platform for negotiations. and i would venture to suggest that most of those who comment on this did not even see this plan , did not read it, but in fact this plan, and nothing more than a plan for the surrender of russia , unconditional surrender, so expect that our president or anyone - or another of our military will be. and as they say, an appetite for discussing a plan for the unconditional surrender of our country would probably be naive, to say the least. well, this does not

mean that russia rejects negotiations, in principle, that russia rejects negotiations. well, i can recall. uh, how it all began, how there were, uh, several rounds of talks about belarus then in istanbul, how there was a certain plan , yes, which, uh, was appropriate, and the amendments were passed to the ukrainian side, and uh, the reaction of the delegation then was. yes, everything is fine, but we have to agree in kiev and that's it. no one heard much about this plan, just as no one heard about one of the members of the ukrainian delegation, who for some reason was, but was killed. and so, there is a suspicion that he

was killed not by chance among his role in the negotiations, probably, for sure. well, let's not guess, especially since the investigation was not carried out by the ukrainian authorities. therefore , regarding the current situation, russia, through the mouth of the president, through the mouth of the minister of foreign affairs, has repeatedly confirmed that we are ready to conduct, and enter into negotiations, but, of course, not on the topic of this zelensky’s plan, i must add that it’s not one, zelensky ah. something, as they say, but depicted on paper was a whole series. uh , much more adequate u proposals that were created in various countries was the african initiative were the proposals of saudi arabia mexican mexican.

yes, quite a lot. and they all contained definitely none of them was perfect. and none of them was, so to speak, at such a stage that it could be accepted immediately, but in in general, but in each of these plans, unlike the zelensky plan, they contained, and reasonable ideas of the proposal in russia were ready to take them into account, and in those negotiations, uh, which have not yet taken place, but for which we were ready and continue to be ready. i have read in several western publications. that uh the united states and american allies are planning to use the upcoming g20 meeting this week later this week to uh how to get russia condemned over ukraine that they want to use for this purpose

the fact that there will not be, er, not from president putin himself and not from the senzin. e, and. although , of course, the chinese delegation will be headed by the example of the russian delegation to single out sergey lavrov, they still have some hope that they will be able to mobilize the twenty. uh, even some part of, uh, south. against moscow, what do you know? a? i think that to achieve a unified position of the twenty with the condemnation of russia, uh, this task is unrealistic. and if i remember, uh, so to speak, we analyzed, uh, the results of the previous summit last year's twenty then about uh, twenty. well, we can say conditionally divided in half 10 by 10, but let's see what will happen,

china, russia, china, russia, or other brix countries that are also represented there, brazil and india, and so let's see what will happen, and the level of e -e presence, and would it be from china or would the prime minister be from russia the president or there would be ministerial affairs, this fundamentally does not change the situation, because each of them, of course, e will e conduct. in the same uh political line, which is the official line, but with the respective country. so, uh, well , upset, as i heard the president of the united states that he will not be able to see xi jinping. and he doesn't say anything about putin. i get it too, blinky, yeah,

'cause after all, uh, when he says the united states is taking some kind of stand. yes, he means by definition that this position is the only correct one as long as the president says it, can you imagine, even if not blinkin, but biden himself. yes, i would have arrived in a week, but i would have approached the dolphins and told him why you support putin. yes, this could have the most serious consequences for china, because it would turn around now, i don’t know where to go. well , it turns out that from the point of view of kiev, there is no longer a special operation. it turns out that there is no more, just a war in ukraine, but there is a third

world war. let's listen, if someone thinks that the third world war did not start, then this is a big mistake. it has already started going on for a certain time in the hybrid period. a now it has entered the active phase. and if someone thinks that this is a clarification of relations between russia and ukraine, this is a mistake. everything is much more complicated. this is not a little bit from the secretary of the security council of ukraine , mr. danilov, and he accepts his responsibility there. uh, western guests, including, uh, the former commander of us forces in afghanistan, the former director of the cia, petryas. he even at one time, uh, thought about whether to take part in the presidential race, but a scandal arose there, and his relationship with some girl, uh, did not do what american generals are forbidden to communicate with girls. out of wedlock too prohibited hmm ah, but

uh, there's this girl. e, among other things , was his e-beef, and he shared information with her in such a way that would normally be considered secret. and in general, given that he is a well-deserved man and did not really interfere with anyone and he was not punished, but as if from becoming president well, this is simply to the fact that danilov is sitting as serious people. and that's what i'm wondering is that apparently not one of them gave him this third idea world war. alexander dugin did not object , the philosopher, political scientist and, to our great pleasure, a regular participant in this program. how do you react to the idea that this is world war iii? maybe i'm just nitpicking with some rhetorical statement or it's really significant, well in

this case, i think he's right. that's how it is, there is a very serious clash going on. ah, the world that split into supporters of the polar world order and the multipolar veronica, and ukraine is the zone where this clash has the most violent most the most radical, most desperate, bloodiest form, but this is the third world war, because as a result of it the fate of mankind will be determined, or it will still be unipolar. here's even pay attention. the name that one world is one family, and one humanity is a unipolar agenda, it is no coincidence that there is no putin or xi jinping there. it is interesting that hindus, who are very empathetic in their culture, are not accidental. there is one of today's participants who asked. vedanta was called vedanta - this means e, knowing

the vedas and the vedas say that at the end of time there will be an epoch of the kali yuga of a dark dark cycle, where humanity will rebel against god against civilization and create the antichrist civilization. this is the modern western civilization that will swallow up the whole world and only faithful to god, faithful to the spirit of true tradition, will fight against this civilization. and those who fight against this civilization of the devil - this is what they are, but, if you like, ah-ah. the brix countries are the countries of all mankind against western hegemony, this is the third world the fact that our half of our people or part of our people, the ukrainians, turned out to be on the side of the antichrist on the side of the devil's civilization is a terrible tragedy. here you have to think. and how was it even possible, but danilov in this case

and zelensky who says that everything is decided in ukraine more than the fate of ukraine that the third world war is going on, that there is a clash of two views on the future of mankind , a satanic western civilization that wants to end mankind to transfer the initiative to these post-gender transhumanist structures and humanity, which is now represented by russia in ukraine, is being decided. the fate of the man adam in his global sense is another matter in this respect, that those of our opponents understand this, and it seems to us that we are constantly reducing the scale of what we ourselves are participating, that is, the devil is fighting with us. and we just can not understand that we are a country, we are a people, we are a civilization that came out in the name of god in the name of humanity. it seems to us, some distant prospects, so for us

such a phrase that there is a third war. it is these phrases that take us by surprise. they us. eh, as if from us warps from this. and this is really another matter, that we ourselves cannot enter into our mission. we are in our function, but we cannot create to the end, they are at war with us, like the civilizations of god, and we think that we are solving some geopolitical private problems. those on the other side understand this very well. here our opponents have no, no delusions. no, regarding the purpose of this war, which had no tasks against us methods. they are not deluded. they just stand in defense of the satanic civilization , they want it to be the only civilization and everyone bows down to it. this, in fact, is a prophecy and the same indian years are the same upanisha. the same uh, the same sacred texts of any tradition , muslims call it dajjal. we are the antichrist. eh, hindus, potassium south, even

jews have an idea of ​​​​such a concept as the rf great displacement. the jews of traditional ideas understand that the groups that run america are nothing supporters of the jewish religion. no predecessors, bshaha. these are the enemies of tradition, that is, in fact, now there is a clash in the split of humanity. that's what a special military operation is. this is the split of humanity into two camps: the people of god and the people of the devil. people are devils. this is well understood, so it seems to me that if but no, that's the problem. of course, i absolutely agree with you that this is far from a conflict between russia and ukraine and that this conflict is not only in ukraine, not only because of ukraine but has deeper roots and the most serious consequences. well, here's where i can't

agree with you. it is that this is already a world war, that this war involves fundamental clashes of interests and values. here i am absolutely with you. who e that this war is spreading, uh, to all new countries and continents here i am absolutely with you, but when they say world war they usually mean a war in which all possible weapons are used, including nuclear weapons, including strategic nuclear weapons more than that, if you look at the first and second world war naturally. e nuclear weapons were not used with the exception of american atomic bombs against hiroshima and nagasaki. these were wars when everything that the opponents had was used. it was all war. but if you want, not for

life, but to death, and it was clear that, in general, this war would be very difficult to end. and not only the second world war. the first will be very difficult to finish without a decisive victory, what is being done now. i think, again, right-wing russia does not lead this. uh, fighting like a world war. and you, alexander , repeatedly stopped me when i spoke about the possibility of using tactical nuclear weapons. you stopped me when i spoke about the possibility of strikes on nato territory, and this may be the difference in our temperaments, perhaps your position is more balanced. maybe because i lived in america for a long time, i'm more willing to take risks, but in all conditions, and you seemed to take it. very balanced

stance and it tells me to also kind of they didn’t want this war to turn into, but if you want to become a complete apocalyptic conflict, and in this regard, i think that mr. danilov wants to convince the west, i may be wrong about his intention. i am not familiar with this gentleman, but it seems to me that he wants to convince the west that this is already the third world war, and he and his patrons want to create the impression that if russia is not doing something else, and on the escalation ladder it is because russia not that russia is not yet ready, not that russia is showing reasonable caution. they believe that this means that russia does not have either the means. either determination, and so they consider danilov about

it, says a lot, which is uh collective. the west can go significantly further along the path of escalation, and russia still will not respond one way or another. that is why i consider danilov a's statement in the context of his other statements and his actions. it seems to me that this is a very dangerous line of the zelensky government for further escalation with the most unpredictable consequences, where they are wrong, really. world war iii is not yet has entered its last hard hot stage and what's more, we still have a chance. still at the world at mankind. there is a chance to avoid it to avoid the third world war, you can active instantly. with a sharp rush to seize

ukraine, after that, without any strike on the territory of nato countries, we take ukraine. we stop there and begin to negotiate. that is, we can, this , this conflict with the civilization of the devil, but localize and say that we take our own. well, it doesn’t mean yours to you, but it means to postpone means to postpone, but in essence, in essence. this is a collision with two absolutely mutually opposite goals of humanity. it leads to division. this split. maybe, by the way, he can go not only to ukraine, he can come to the south pacific ocean, to taiwan, to other zones. but this is so the third world war is no. this is a war of some nation- states by others. this is the war of the civilization of the antichrist with all mankind, and we can postpone it and we will postpone it. if we just limit her spectrum to her scope, if we just

let's take ukraine and close it for a while, put everything else aside, of course, danilov and the zelenskys want to understand that this is our goal , they want the nuclear apocalypse to begin now, they have no other prospects. they want to involve the west in an immediate nuclear conflict with russia. we have a chance to avoid this. if we simply solve our tasks set. so we do not want to accept the formula of danilov and indirect. we just want to free ukraine from the external, and that's it. and on this we will not go further. that's what's with you all the time collide. we do not want. we will step beyond the western borders, make the former ukraine and bridge no one. we do not want in washington and in a. dolovaya there in any states of the west do not want to nor in canada we do not even want

to touch poland with a finger, but ukraine is what belongs to us and we put an end to this. we will neutralize it. we're taxifying it, yes, we're steaming exorcism, and that's where we end our chord, maybe, uh, the third war will start somewhere in other regions. and we also have our tough position. we stand against this western satanic civilization, if suddenly the west itself will reconsider its attitude, and we will reconsider towards it. we're not as bigoted in this regard as they are, but there 's no arguing with who we're dealing with, so i think we have a chance to avoid. this is the third world war. but this chance without release. ukraine is not discussed at all. and so the escalation will continue. i think that our differences are less serious than they may appear on the surface, because we both want out of that world war that says

danilov, but there are things that we cannot avoid. there is a big game on the air now. we are turning to a foreign senator, uh, who has his own opinion about our dialogue with alexander dugin. i agree in the main, and with you both, that we have a chance to avoid a third world war. how about a recipe for it? here i have a slightly different point of view. and i think that if, so figuratively, if ukraine remains a wet place, then the conflict between russia and the west will not go anywhere. therefore, to say that we will take ukraine with a swift blow and let's stop this. this, i think, will not solve the problem, on the other hand, you understand? i

, uh, cannot agree with you, seeing alexander and your reasoning as an internal contradiction on the one hand. you are talking about the purely territorial aspect of this conflict. here, let's take ukraine and become, and on the other hand, you present it as a struggle for god there as a santechrist. uh, after all, they are in different, probably at different levels, opposing. as for what a world war is, at one time certain international law was developed criteria, first, this is a war that covers all continents, but in retrospect. i believe the first world war. it was the crimean war. which was carried out in the crimea on the beams in the north and in the far east, you are mistaken today in

1853 1754. yes, which means that with regard to another criterion, which dmitry e said that they used everyone. yes? of course, there is, though a nuance, in the second world war, chemical weapons were not used. although it was, it was also among the germans. including what was universally acknowledged that she was aware chemical weapons were recognized even then as ineffective, but for some reason there is still a country that is so, despite its obligations. and the arsenal is the united states of america. i’m not talking about the biological weapons of these very laboratories, which

have been talked about a lot lately, including on the territory of ukraine, uh, and, alas, other countries of the former soviet union. so, uh, i think , the main thing that really is, and he is a world chance, and not uh, so to speak, do not bring his end closer, but uh world war to escape, but this will require a clear-cut line, both politically and, of course, militarily , and therefore the speedy successful completion of a special military operation. this is a necessary prerequisite to achieving this goal. when i listen to you, alexander, my main disagreement is, in fact, with you, in fact. not by rhetoric, not by wording. is this, uh, a massive and

relatively quick russian control operation? over all of ukraine, or at least most of it, that this is what we can rely on in the short term or medium term? because if we can't rely on it, then we end up relying on something that's out of our control and giving up in the process. apply methods. like, for example, strikes on enemy territory outside of ukraine. we refuse to do things that may be risky, costly, on which we depend only. i want to ask you ruslan from your point of view, russia has military capabilities over the next what period will we call ruslan to do

what you want in ukraine for five years. well the thirtieth year, say, and we are tuned in to the fact that a special military operation will go on for 7 years, like iran's iraqi war. i don't know, that's why i'm asking for your professional military. i don't have a crystal ball. i can only say one thing that is probably not in doubt, if something like this, what we have seen in ukraine since 2004, happened in mexico yes, in the soft underbelly of the united states, they would not have been waiting 10 years to conduct a special military operation or would not even wait. i i think two years. yes, the intervention would have happened quickly. let's remember. uh , unfortunate grenada with thirty or three hundred cuban civilian specialists , primarily doctors, when it seemed to the americans that the country there could become

a socialist orientation there. yes, but the forceful response followed slowly, yes, the occupation, and massive. yes? eh, you can see it in flashback now. that we underestimated the strength of this anti-russian ukrainian activism and to a large extent the operation was planned according to the patterns of the danube operation, e. czechoslovakia but only czechoslovakia had a small army country. there was peacetime . we entered there together with the poles and the germans from the gdrov, and here from the mobilized fascist state, so i cannot say how long the special military operation will last. i know that russia is still, to a large extent, waging this half-strength war. she is half her strength, with regard to the personnel of the means of application, and first of all , finances, when you see how renovation is going on in moscow. yes, when you see

huge budget spending continues? today the mayor of moscow has opened. uh, vnukovo uh station vnukovo so that russia has the opportunity to step on the gas. and invest in a special military operation. uh, more funds i don't have the slightest doubt, of course there are some things that i think everyone would agree can and should be done and each of us has his own list, but i think that my list uh and alexander they not very different from each other. well, here's the thing. this is not only a war military to hybrid that's right. it is not only on the battlefield in this mental war, and here the support of the citizens of russia is very important so that the population and the authorities are united and, uh, i absolutely understand those people who make decisions who do not want

an extreme need. well, if you want to put the country in a position where we are really engaged in total war for a significant period of time, and at a great risk to the standard of living. uh, needs education medicine know total war? that's how the great patriotic war is here, uh, you understand, they spare nothing for the sake of victory, and i understand. why do those who make the decision know the mood of the people? i don't understand at some stage, maybe it will have to be done, but i mean, they have a healthy desire to avoid this turn of events. if it can be done without defeat. it seems to me, i don't know

if you agree. alexander well, that 's the caution you have when you talk about nuclear weapons. e strike at nato territory, do not transfer the war to the level of total war due to the welfare of its population. i, at least the quality is very cool, healthy instinct and very pragmatic approach. no, here we are, in some ways we disagree, in some ways we are getting closer. i believe that in fact, the longer we delay the moment of inclusion of the peoples , it will be worse for everyone for everyone if we now rebuild everything for victory . we will improve our society, we will get rid of those stereotypes from those trends that have prevailed in our country since the nineties . when you say you're quite right in mental warfare - it's mental war is western networks of influence that

hold us back from within, palming off our government with such arguments that there is no need to radicalize there. this could end badly. it can create boiling points, in fact, and this is a mental war. inside. we have such a thing as reflexive control. i read in, uh, an article that ruslan pukhov gave me last time on your channel. the magnificent term reflexive control. this is when one country, at war with another country, goes inside this other side and begins to create such a situation mental culture ideological, which paralyzes the will. this country to the real resistance. here, in my opinion, what you are talking about now is the result of reflexive control that western civilization, hostile to us, has established over our country since the nineties. they block our mobilization. they're stopping us from

getting into this war. that's what i 'm talking about, while i believe that this is a war only for the territory of ukraine, now only for the territory of ukraine, and even if we are in we are in contact and at enmity with the entire western satanic modern civilization. and the goals of this particular this particular battle of this battle on the shetra trigger or the battle on the territory of armageddon in different traditions. this is only ukraine. but in order to win there, we need to break the stereotype that you consider rational, i do not consider it rational. i think these are just tools of influence. our adversary to demoralize us, so that we do not make this decisive jump, we leave for advertising, we will return in just a few minutes. the audience

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the best option would be to do this in advance for us to do this work inside ukraine because you are talking about territory, but at the very least, the territory is at the very least, if not the previous 50 million, much less, but the ukrainian people live there, part of our common people, therefore, i understand that now this russophobia must be reversed. all these pro-nazi to russophobic sentiments will be extremely difficult. it should have been done. i used to agree, but it doesn’t matter, but uh, how it will not look geographically, ukraine at the end of uh , a special military operation, anyway , some people will live on it and that’s for their minds and hearts, but we need to start fighting. how

is it said yesterday absolutely correctly? but look at the senator, and reflective control. yes, not only should we try to establish over ukraine that we do not do it at all simply, because they have their own nazi ideology. and what we offer them is nothing but reflexive control. we might try and try to establish over western societies as well. and there we have agree. here we need to be active, what’s in it for me? dmitri that he is american activity courage courage, he transfers to our side. we need not to look at, not to look around we need to step on anyone we need appensive, if you like, attacking realism russia needs attacking realism and for this reflexive control, we not only need to steal the enemy from the root, but also try to use these tools to influence both close allies or ours current

enemies, but on our people, on the ukrainians and on everyone else, we need to be active. we need to be subjects, we need to attack and uh, so this is the best way to protect, and in this respect , in the subtle realms of swaft power, this is even more effectively. the west uses it brilliantly and unfortunately for us effectively. and we are only approaching this topic. attack realism is a new term. uh, alexander dugina, who turns out to be under american influence , likes it, especially when it sounds to you. attacking realism has little to do with the problems of god and satan. maybe it's god's attacking realism. not happiness, i think you 're such a realist too

. you know, i wanted to justify myself. hand over. it is about problems, and the functioning of special services. it is called invisible dimensions and article, which refers to reflexive control. this is a specific case. ah, how the israeli special services represented control, but the iranian special services win in the fight against the special services. despite the fact that the iranians are also very strong, however, first-class. uh, special service, which is a massage and others. uh, israeli intelligence. they fight, relatively speaking, with the second-class, so they win, despite the fact that the iranians also have some individual successes. and by the way, here reflexive control is a term and developed this theory. uh, the great soviet scientist, vladimir lev, who later left, by the way, for the united states, apparently without finding it, here in the soviet union to the end for himself

. therefore, in principle, reflexive control is a very practical thing. yes , this is not some mystical thing very often, uh, our president is reproached for uh holding a pause. yes, and such, as it were. is in such, as it were, but hmm before making any decision. oh he endures time, so here's what we're talking about now, should we declare total war or should we try to wage the same war as americans 20 years in afghanistan almost 20 years in iraq but at the same time, uh, society. uh, how does it not rear up during vietnam? unfortunately, only time will tell. actually, the wars failed in afghanistan and iraq, but this is not completely, but this did not demoralize, the united states as a country and this did not demoralize the army, therefore it was from them. but here in ukraine it is completely different. but it seems to me that, in general, we are all in the same

country, but you should know the dispute shows. eh, what, uh, when the time has come and for what exactly it has come, that in general it depends on many factors. i always treat it with caution, because, uh, all my life, i was in a situation where i did not make government decisions. and when i commented on these decisions, i studied them, i could have made some recommendations and kizinger, uh, therefore, about these people are experts. he said they do what they should do. and that it is very important. and that they should respect, what they do, and they should and should listen to them. here you need to understand their difference between them and statesmen, because here we are.