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pret pulled back the skin and shot, so the monomachine and the time we spend even tomorrow the autopsy. and what is the autopsy of the murdered mrs. kozyreva? yeah, we'll get a bullet to the house, they searched it. no, we'll postpone everything until tomorrow. everything is fine lenochka is excellent. and they'll shoot another time. get out, get on the road, road, road. give well and who at you here has committed suicide? yes, i'm on stepanovich for me, at least everything is a fool. let her kill herself, smart people will breathe easier. imagine that you thought prokhor would suspect with thunder, yes, nevene, but he is an oceanian take the people away. you go to help him a bit.
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especially since the true suspects are all passport bums. you already have in the site, what kind of person exactly named his no, for the time being, yes, even us him. don't help the young man. so what about the clip? it was in vain that they raised it against me , i told you. get out be quiet. and listen to me, i 'll get you out. fedinka is alive in you, the soul is alive, and i, cowardly, began to doubt only to do
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one thing for me, do you understand? a big game is on the air today we have a conversation with sergey karaganov, supervisor faculty of world economy of world politics of the higher school of economics and sergey alexandrovich is also the honorary chairman of the presidium of the council on foreign defense policy. we are very glad to see you, uh, we met with you a couple of months ago, when we talked about your article, which was very interesting to you , which was published on june 13, and this article said that under some extreme conditions, russia can consider, and
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nuclear option. it seemed to me that the article was reasonable, we discussed it with you. i had questions, probably there are no two people who such a sensitive subject would be agreed. well, let's put it this way, and each with a comma, but it seemed to me an article, uh, an article. uh, reasonable and certainly not, uh, not the kind of article against which you need to write collective letters. this really struck me when i read the collective letter, a signed, but by a group, but we don’t bring members of the council on foreign defense policy, but this document, because there was a problem with signatures. by that i mean that when i asked a couple of people why they signed this letter, and i i expected that i would receive a serious explanation and
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some facts that i did not notice. i was told. which letter? we wrote against karaganov. i say, well, uh, his name wasn't there and i was told. let's say we need to write a letter so as not to be exposed as a nuclear weapon. but, well, you signed it, you know how such things are done, but just now someone wanted to do it, it seemed interesting to me, by the way, the other day you probably know, but there was a small but interesting incident when the statement of the institute staff appeared. haya canada support for its newly ousted director. and this is a statement. it hung there for about an hour, but because the editor-in-chief of the newspaper asked. and
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what does the team mean and what evidence was there that the team really accepted something like that, and this statement was also removed from the websites of independent newspapers to the credit of the newspaper and the editor-in-chief. but, apparently, you, uh, touched some very sensitive chord. and now for me it's not up to the end, it's clear because e, scattering is a struggle with the collective west. it's more in my opinion no one argues that this is not just a struggle between russia and ukraine, but a struggle with the collective west specifically. the united states is increasingly supplying weapons with a radioactive component.
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let's now hear what yesenin wrote about this literally today the united states for the first time decided to send ukraine ammunition with combined uranium as part of a new aid package worth over $ 1 billion 120-mm shells are suitable for american- made abrams m1 tanks and should go to the front hopes in washington and kiev this fall that the supplies will help ukrainian troops consolidate their hard-won counter-offensive. however , the munitions are moderately radioactive, raising questions about a threat they cannot pose to civilians, and drawing sharp criticism from moscow presidents. vladimir putin said i would like to note that if this happens and russia will have to react accordingly. i mean that the collective west has already begins to use weapons with a nuclear component. you are a very prominent person with great authority. and naturally, when you say something, it attracts attention.
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but now i want to understand why, from your point of view, such a wave arose, i would say, not even criticism, but anger against in general . your article. uh, i was with you recently, uh, at a department of defense conference, where you were the first speaker and the reaction to, uh, your the performance was definitely very, very positive. so what are these criticisms? and why were they so indignant? and i honestly looked carefully at the reaction to this article ; the next one is much more powerful; it is a continuation of this one, but other work is underway in the same area. um, well, i ’m also looking at the reactions, uh, curious reactions to
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american colleagues and opponents. whatever you want, uh, they say that i am all lev , this is all propaganda. it can't be. by the way, they say the same thing in phenomena president. i don’t compare myself with the president, who has said many times that, well, in principle, russia, well, in an extreme case, can use nuclear weapons, and the american interests the americans. clearly he needs it. uh, they need castration. e of the russian nuclear potential is political, and they do their best to downplay the nuclear threat. well , you know, there was a completely physical speech by the secretary of state. printkin are the ones that really made me gasp in horror. we, when he compared, uh, nuclear war. uh with climate change, what is it? it's a threat of one order, and it just scares me, and
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now the russian reaction. i will not respond to this very letter, but simply because my colleagues advised me on foreign defense policy. we don't like to criticize each other. moreover, they do not criticize me by name. there are, uh, a few problems. uh, the first thing is that a significant, uh part of the people still remaining in russia want russia’s defeat. that’s why i thought that we should talk about this. yes, they want the defeat of russia, there is another group of people, their a few most of them have already left. ah, the second group of people are educated people, but in logic. and that theory is more restrained, which we all created together. well, mainly under the strong american influence, yes, during the years of the last cold war, and they are also within the framework. here are the, uh, that is, uh
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, intellectual paradigms of partial mythologies that we created in order to then prevent any war. well, for example, about the fact that any use going into service will certainly lead, but to a general nuclear conflict during the cold war years. i also participated in this company. i say it will definitely come. although this is completely stupid, because the americans have an american military strategy. as you know , it comes from all-limited nuclear strikes and the russian military strategy actually comes from the same thing , just even read it carefully. and the third. eh, they are in that paradigm, they say that there is never anything , this is bad. well, just i would say it's old thinking. uh, the third group is the most big. and these are people who are engaged in intellectual escotism. they don't even want to think about what's going on. i
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tell them in this my acquaintances are personal acquaintances, comrades. not necessary. here are some of the people who signed up. i tell them, my friends, in order for a pacifist to sit in a cafe. uh, sat in the streams. they chatted. uh, warriors and political ones must fight and die for this, and in reality this is strategic parasitism. people. they just don't want to. think about what will happen, what is now, it is going to the third world war. i know for sure, because i have been predicting this war for 25 years. and now i say what will happen if we do not stop the current conflict, what will happen if we do not stop , if you do not propose a world war? no, god forbid, this is all being done in order to stop this war, and moreover , it can only be stopped by imposing defeat on the west, and at the same time i emphasize that this
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must be an honorable defeat, because if he runs in horror, then we we'll get it. come on, a wave of revisionism of hatred that is so strongly well, if it doesn’t work out, we’ll have to honorably uh, to impose odd defeats, but if we don’t bring it, then in a few years. uh, taking into account all the trends that are happening in the world, including a. yes, to reduce the fear of nuclear weapons by the desperation of many elite a about losing their positions, especially in the west. uh, technical shifts. this earthquake and the strategic geo-economic and even ideological that we are experiencing will all certainly or almost certainly lead to a series of conflicts and a big war. it must be stopped now by restoring the deterrent role of nuclear weapons, restoring the sacred fear that they inspired and which maintained
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relative peace for seventy- five. e years. but i proceed approximately from this logic, and then there are technical issues, but for people. it is difficult for many people to accept. well, even quite conscientious conversation about war in general, and even more so in a war using nuclear weapons , inspires horror. they flee from this horror and , accordingly, say, no, never under what circumstances? well, if you start talking to them about the fact that the guys understand that they are yours, then you will convert your children to her. well, most likely for the destruction of the grandchildren in 10-15 years. well, they start to cringe. well , this is the reality, uh, which, uh, that we live, from which we need to fight. i was thinking about what we said and said. i spoke
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at the time. i never remember that, uh, one of us wanted to start another world war. well, somehow it was, let’s say, out of character, but since i lived in washington for a long time i know very well that what you just said is pure truth that in the united states nuclear weapons were considered a necessary tool of deterrence, and in order for them to deter there had to be a real possibility. it was used for this and there were nuclear arsenals. and besides , i know that there was something called the communications doctrine yesterday of a man whom you knew well, who was at one time the minister of defense. and so, let's see what frysinger said about the possibility of using nuclear weapons precisely for this purpose.
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to avoid an apocalyptic conflict. we want to have enough planning flexibility to selectively respond to an attack in the following ways. the first is to limit the chances of uncontrolled escalation and the second is to hit a priority target with sufficient accuracy to destroy only the selected target while avoiding widespread collateral damage in the event of a nuclear collision. although we fervently believe that this will not happen in order to protect american cities and the cities of our allies during wartime. we will rely on maintaining our assured destruction forces and dissuading any potential adversary from attacking cities through intra-military deterrence through these very means. we hope to prevent widespread destruction even in the catastrophic circumstances of nuclear war. and when i wrote this , i said this, i remember it very well, and he mentioned several things to me, but he definitely
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had to mention things. but in general it was considered that it was a weapon. uh, aimed at not only preventing uh use nuclear weapons. against yourself, expensive deterrence is like this, but it had a number of other functions, when which are our uh, pique strategies. they don't want to know. by the way, they have not been discussed for a long time; we are going to arms aimed at preventing any major war between the two countries. and then nuclear weapons stopped working. uh, the other feature is cost saving. we have the means to do this, but the americans did this for conventional weapons during the cold war. unfortunately, the soviets did not do this and this is cheaper and this is cheaper, of course, it is much cheaper. but this is a saving, by the way, on nuclear weapons themselves, because if you have sufficiently effective weapons, uh, that make it impossible to win, otherwise
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why bother? the nuclear arms race, for example, for those missiles that we have now made with hypersound. they actually exclude any possibility of victory or even any advantages; accordingly, they will limit this race too, uh, one of the most important functions of nuclear weapons is the uh function i call it, civilizing nuclear powers. and understanding what can happen lead to the use of nuclear weapons, and until recently they washed it out because of the ranks of their leaders - people, idiots and irresponsible fools. now, unfortunately, they have gone again. we know very well what happened in america in the forties and fifties, and when they threw them out one by one. the last one was bare goldter, uh, the barrier was called the outstanding
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american leader of the stunning, by the way, a very interesting politician , a reasonable republican who rattled nuclear weapons. we also have one of the reasons. why hawkmoth of sergeevich khrushchev because he threw too much at them, so these are all these functions. now they stop working. well, and uh, of course, the americans told me one more subtlety. since then , the soviet union has received quite effective means. and in response to the strikes they did not really consider the possibility of delivering a strike. and with regard to the soviet union, what i said was a limited nuclear strike. this is nonsense, and such strikes were examined, only in the case there, and the victorious marshal on the russian troops is correct, but in germany for sure,
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yes, and never again because of conversations. there were many, but it is absolutely certain that the possibility of using nuclear weapons in the post-soviet union was never considered , since even several warheads. i'm in this, and plotted there in the cities of the united states. america will transform. eh, america, as he said, there is eisenhower kennedy and many others. eh, it will turn it into a completely different country. it’s just not to america, uh, it will break its identity, except for the monstrous victims there, and therefore, uh, i didn’t say this, because, naturally, american, but nuclear strategy there was a powerful element of the bfa when they said that they could launch nuclear weapons to protect their allies. this is practically impossible. this is impossible. this means that in this world i have described and will write that in the white house sits a person who hates america and who will take risks, yes, to
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protect frankfurt of knowledge or bucharest and boston, uh, philadelphia or new york , relatively speaking, and here it is uh, this means that a person with limited abilities simply lives there. i am very worried about this the circumstances that we see, uh, at least in the west, are degrading very quickly, and henry is already in the bag, which he dedicated to this in his leadership book. eh, the wonderful last chapter is simply dazzling, as you know the man is from the flesh, but he wrote very brightly, although they called it. my things these are the words i call them, but in general, absolutely precisely, and about my concern regarding this degradation, of course, not only flesh out the american establishment from home in many ways
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embodies it, but only you used a very correct expression, uh, the degradation of the american elite occurred. and although the brush is 100 years old, nevertheless. something about his intellect and his vision. it is personal degradation. escaped. and, of course, which rightly noted speaks highly of her. why did i lead you to the stairs? yesterday, of course, what he wrote. uh, almost 50 years ago it was impossible to fully apply their conditions, but i wanted to show what and who they are, thoughts not in the direction that you demonstrate. what wasn't it? e something not only not allowed, but let's say prejudicial and that quite reasonable people who quite aspired in the case of the kleisanger, at least to find a common language in the soviet union, they
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believed that it was necessary in order to find, and some points contact with another great nuclear power, that it is necessary to have a good nuclear deterrence, i think that's the main pathos of what you say, i then and uh hmm unfortunately, unfortunately, uh hmm well , of course, i'm almost sure what we have relevant plans. ah, i’m not initiated, but it would be a complete astonishment and everything is perfect . okay, there was no border use going into service again in order to prevent the use of nuclear weapons, especially a big war, but i’m still very worried. uh, i'm not a single one, but our doctrine is the use of nuclear weapons. it opens the way for non-nuclear war. and we, it was created, uh, in a completely different
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period of time, when it seemed that war was impossible at all. and when you wanted more to appeal to the west, and uh, when i strongly suspect that it was still made under the influence. uh, felt the need to modernize the general purpose force. and when i was studying the problems of nuclear strategy in the past cold war. eh, discovered and received strong confirmation. one very interesting detail. our infantry generals hated nuclear weapons, but because nuclear weapons, and if they are used on the battlefield, although the problem is for sale. yes, it practically uh, washes away all plans. it washes away all requests for signals, and it makes operational art meaningless. i have a strong suspicion that we are still in this strange paradigm, and
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certainly outdated by 20 years. and we need to modernize our doctrine, modernize our policies, and uh, uh, and bring back nuclear weapons. uh, in uh in the field of e effective deterrence, but, because otherwise, and not only russia will lose, but she is waging a war that she will lose and cannot, this is not a war, like the japanese one and even the crimean one there, but i am absolutely sure. and what if we do it now we will not stop, and we will return nuclear weapons. on the pedestal of effective deterrence, but we will get the third world news, well, through a series of wars and the destruction of humanity, and i think that’s part of it. uh, there is a question about who russia is dealing with in the person of the united
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states of america and uh, this is the language with which uh, brezhnev spoke to nix. and i would even say e the language, uh, that gromyko used, let’s say, and when dealing with the reagan administration. i’m not even talking about gorbachev’s language. it seems to me that it has no relation to reality, because due to degradation of the american elite in force. because the influence of the united states on the entire collective west has increased, that is, an unprecedented unification of the west has occurred. in this case against russia and china , we are dealing with a phenomenon of poor quality. when, if you want, a situation has appeared in america of a nuclear power that becomes
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a banana republic with nuclear weapons, if you look at how the administration operates in the international arena without any rules, if you look at what they are doing with president biden and his supporters inside america, again, without any rules. it seems to me that it is very important to say. so have convincing deterrence. even, uh , for people who are not too impressionable and burdened with great intelligence. and so, it seems to me that this is exactly what you are suggesting, correct me. i completely agree with you. well, you say, and the things that seem to me, it seems to me, are correct and obvious, but i would add to you, and to your thoughts, one more very important
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thing, degradation is degradation, but it is increasing and therefore we must hurry the following the generation of american politicians will be worse. and after one more thing, it will be even worse. it didn’t happen in europe. but what happened in europe. this is, uh, the result of not only the fact that the americans grabbed and pressed there; they conquered; monstrous degradation occurred there. elites, there are simply no people left there at all. at least i don’t know anymore. from which you can talk seriously about strategic issues . an acquaintance of mine recently died. well, once again there are two left from the great old men, and they they will call them so as not to discriminate against them in front of their audience. well, they are already very old people, and they don’t know people there who can seriously think seriously. so here in america america goes. and this is a great nuclear power exactly along this path, and therefore it is necessary to act as quickly
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as possible, because in 5 years and it’s clear, but, because in five to ten years this line will be worse needed, but to push a kind of cat. now let's hope without the use of nuclear weapons, which would sober up the elites, and would have forced the deep state, whatever it was for them, but to pull out of their ranks more or less reasonable ones, and i hope that they still remained in america. now we're off to advertising. you fight with this kind of music, but some people just say, oh great. it's great there. guys like, you know who they are, i don’t know, i’m talking about a girl, a miner of the brigade. war , relatives are fighting, brother, father, all the tankers
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which if russia does not respond, then this is perceived as an invitation to distant and actions in the same direction , let's listen to these, what he says about this. uh, the famous american commentator julioffe, who spoke with senior white house officials. the phased deliveries of various weapons systems have allowed western leaders to test whether there will be a harsh reaction to the crossing of russian red lines, or whether it is just empty talk, as is the case with many things that the russians have said about ukraine. putin was just shaking the air and hoping that we were in it. believe in fact. russia struck back. it’s just not in a way that the baydan administration considers strategic. putin and his cronies were very frank when they linked the brutal bombing of civilian targets in ukraine with events such as the attacks on the crimean bridge, but again this was not an attack on nato and not the use of nuclear weapons in other words, this is not the escalation that the white
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house was so worried about. it is not the escalation that the house was worried about. what to do about this, and go for escalation? i have said for many years that we pursued a policy of appeasement regarding the expansion of nato and that it will lead to a big war now, unfortunately with its uh , well, accuracy, maybe not even decisiveness, but we are pursuing appeasement of the aggressor, and therefore we need to act toughly and as quickly as possible, because i repeat, the further, the worse and more difficult the reaction will be for those. more radical means will have to be applied. and now i hope, going by the increasing threat of nuclear weapons. you can stop, but if it goes on like this, you'll have to leave
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use nuclear weapons. but i wouldn’t want this, but simply because the use of nuclear weapons is a terrible moral step for any society and for any people. i did not want to be a citizen of a country or the leaders of a country that would use nuclear weapons, but i, as a responsible citizen of my country and citizens of the world, believe that it would be irresponsible then not to use nuclear weapons, because this would first pave the way for universal destruction . we are now not enough to resolve this unconditionally, and we are thus, ah yes spoiled by our american ones. i don't know uh, can you say that i'm not decisive enough, because this is already uh an assessment that requires more knowledge than i have and i mean, knowledge is not even in the military field or in international relations. and uh, understanding the possibility,
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for example, of the russian economy to maintain a long-term agreement, medium-term . this is a total uh confrontation with the collective west. there are many moments here. there is a moment, of course, psychological, you know, no worse than me, like american presidents of the united states prepared for world wars. i'm talking about the president was in the price. i say to the russian president, they didn’t start by organizing , total mobilization, they put everything on a war footing, and they said sacrifices not only in my life, but also with their comfort , normality to everything that you are used to, and it seems to me that this, but if you want, it is common sense on the part of the uh russian leadership to treat such decisions with great caution. than i agree that you
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what you're saying is that no matter what motivates them in moscow to show this restraint. this is how we just saw and recorded the situation in the american establishment, and the russian detention was interpreted as weakness and as a mandate for escalation. and this is very dangerous. this is so uh, i believe that uh we should use maybe two more years ah in order to try to live the problem, and without uh direct threats of escalation in the hope that and our western opponents understand that they will either simply lose or lose with horror. but, uh, it’s absolutely obvious to me that we won’t be able to fight for a long time with uh,
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conventional weapons. e the west is senseless and shameless in relation to its own people. it's just that we have a gnp in the top ten, 10 times less, everything is fine. and me-, u westerners can unwind in their military-industrial complexes. and we will throw our soldiers there, so we need to solve the problem in the treatment of the coming years. we understand perfectly well that, nevertheless, it is necessary to conduct decisive military actions, the more these wars are military operations. uh, the ukraine is bringing huge shifts within our society. e westernism is washed away, yes, and western centrism is washed away about western elites. although they are very few left. yes, the comprodor authorities are knocked out, that is, the class. e. asia which, uh, are aimed at serving western capital and finally the people
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. society becomes the people when in my village, where i live far from moscow, three groups collect all sorts of parcels for our guys. at the front. this makes me feel a huge sense of pride. so i'm helping to people. but this is this is what they do. well, i see how easy it is for a new society to form, and the war in russia mobilizes the people and makes the people the people, and plus to this, and i know, now, having gained enormous experience, that in russia it is impossible to teach a technical revolution without calling the military . it’s absolutely true that we are a different country, we have a different history. we have a different mentality and our scientific and technological revolution and all
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the great breakthroughs in the scientific and technical field that were made in past years were associated with military production and now this is happening again i uh always try to avoid uh giving uh recommendations to any management what to do? because too many people are involved in decision making to give confident advice from the outside, but i think that we have enough competence to not talk about recommendations about facts. and here it seems to me that one such completely obvious fact. what if they push russia into a corner, if they show russia that she is big, she is weak, that she can not be taken into account, if not just do all this on words? and pumping ukraine up with more and
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more weapons, which are not enough for ukraine to win, but are enough not only to continue the war, but also to shed russian blood. now, it seems to me that if you do this at an accelerated pace, as the biden administration is doing, then a russian response is inevitable. it seems to me that uh you're doing something very useful in trying to demonstrate. who is the baytna administration? how dangerous is their current one or not? i hope they take you seriously. they are taken seriously. i see it. and although they are trying to say that this is propaganda, although this is not propaganda, i, uh, work, not only for america at all. i, uh, think that it is a responsibility as a citizen of the country, as
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a scientist. uh, i have to explain to my society and my ruling class, uh, the essence of what is happening and the challenges. this is not just the current conflict. these are still conflicts that will appear very soon on the horizon, but all the changes in the world that are taking place will lead to a huge amount of friction, and to a huge a new great power will emerge. they will compete and vie with each other, if we now do not restore the horror of nuclear war that existed, which held us back during the last cold war, then we will get a huge number of conflicts around the world, and there are already many nuclear powers and there will be more and then we will get a very bad world, so this task is not only a. for us, for russians, this is a task on a global scale. maybe that's one of the things. e
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russia to save the world from the great world tragedy thermonuclear war in another mission. this is liberation. e peace. e from western games. this is a half-joke, you raised a very important and complex topic, and i didn’t agree or disagree with you, but it seems to me quite obvious that the conversation that you started, that this conversation is very significant , is very constructive, and everything that you they did it. this is a great merit. thank you for this and we hope to see you on our air again soon. it was a big game. and now we go to advertising. saur grave remember, forty-third? i think i hear voices everyone died and a tear rolls down. when the flowers
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to ask you is this is a sentence from a member of the group to one of the leaders of the group, and the proud guys, whom only that he was sentenced to two years in prison. uh, a conspiracy against the republic that uh allegedly took place during the events on january 6, 21, when trump supporters demonstrated in front of congress and a significant part managed to break into the capitol building through the police cordon. however, this is the man who was convicted. he wasn't even there. weapons were used there only by the police ; one woman, a trump supporter who
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took part in the demonstration, was killed. why such a cruel sentence? there are two things here, firstly, many us citizens really believe that what happened on january 6th. this there was an attempt at a coup d'etat, an attempt to trample on the american constitution, but on the other hand, and we all know very well that a process is now underway. uh, with regard to donald trump, the ground is actually being prepared for his exclusion from the election race within the framework of the fourteenth amendment of the constitution. i think that such a harsh sentence here is also due to the fact that we need to create precedents as much as possible in order to prepare the basis in order to somehow squeeze uh, donald trump out of the election race, but there’s also
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there is one more fact, if we remember what happened, as part of the protest. against the death of ah floyd, and we remember that the protests were much more active, and many more people were killed and stores were robbed, but unfortunately, the radical left was not used against such protesters of the left. eh, practically no measures. so what we said here about this , and the judge who led such trials and now she is leading one of trump’s trials , her name is tanya clearly. let's listen to what she said. last year all over the country people took to the streets to protest the brutal police killing of an unarmed man. some of these protesters are becoming violent. however, one cannot compare the actions of a largely peaceful civil
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rights movement with the actions of a violent mob seeking to overthrow a legitimate, elected government. such parallels are false; they ignore the very real danger that the events of january 6th posed to our democracy, but to be clear, when were the protests against trump. uh, my office was in three blocks from the white house. i saw some kind of chaos going on. and i saw a lot of people who came there with weapons, and whom no one stopped or loaded, and these were opponents of trump, they are his supporters, and i remember how when. and trump decided to go to church. it was across the park from the white house and the previous night it had been set on fire. and this was the church that he and his wife attended regularly. eh, i had to use it. uh,
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the armed forces so he could go through this little park. you know the park and you you probably also know that the democrats were extremely indignant about this, extremely indignant, how could trump allow the use of armed force against supposedly peaceful demonstrators, the demonstrators were absolutely not peaceful, of course. the big difference between what happened then, meaning the events of january 6th, 21 years , the difference is that in the case of the demonstrations against trump. uh, the protesters failed to break into the white house, but in the case of congress and the capitol , we succeeded only before judging for this trump. it is too strictly necessary to keep in mind that trump was in no way responsible for
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the security of the capitol. the special capitol police were responsible for this, which was subordinate to the speaker, and the house of representatives democrats were responsible for this, and there was a proposal to send troops , the national guard got drunk and refused this, so this raises a question for me. and not like the purpose of punishment. here are the participants in these demonstrations. i do not believe that it was a rebellion, but there was definitely violence associated with these demonstrations, not like the target that this was punishment. but if you want it is the use of the judicial system to deal with political opponents. obviously i agree with you. this is the very same use of the judicial system as a weapon against competitors, and let us remember that one of
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the first speeches. uh, joe biden was aimed specifically at extremists. maga that is , the democratic party has it. and even such a program and strategy to divide the republicans into the extreme right and the center shows that these are the extreme right. they are not republicans at all. and somehow drink them from the game. and force them to submit to the central government. yes, i completely agree with you. this is the ministry of justice’s use of the judicial system as a weapon to squeeze out competitors and opponents. but i hear that now there is another new idea. stop trump using the fourteenth amendment of the constitution, uh, let me remind you. this amendment was passed in 1866 and the main uh point
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of this amendment the main text of this amendment is about how to give equal rights to the newly specially protected slaves in the south. this is the main makes sense, but also considering it was only 2 years later. after the end of the civil war. a provision was added there that those who took the oath of the republic and then went over to the side of the ball. and this is only if they took an oath, that is, if they were either elected or were officials , this did not apply to ordinary people, but those, uh, people who were officials, if you like, were individuals and took the oath it was said in the route that the oath was not violated. they can live normally, but not may be elected for the last time. this
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amendment was used against. whoever you were, as far as i know in 1872. and when there was a real reconciliation between the seven and the south and these kinds of restrictions no longer made sense as they justify the use of this amendment in order to remove trump from the electoral race. well, here is the story, as they say in russia, the law is that the drawbar is turned, so it turned out. yes, uh, the first part really suggests that if you somehow supported the rebellion a in the second part of the amendment says that it applies exclusively to officers, and those who actually took the oath in one of the states, that is, accordingly, trump does not fall under this definition at all. well, now including some.

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