fine, but they cannot be elected for the last time. this amendment was used against. whoever you are, as far as i know in 1872. and when there was a real reconciliation between the seven and the south and such restrictions no longer made sense as they justify the use of this amendment in order to remove trump from the electoral race. but here is such a story, as they say in russia, the law that the drawbar, as it turned, it happened. yeah, uh, the first part really talks about if you've been supportive in some way. the uprising and v - the second part of the amendment says that it concerns only an officer, and those who really took an oath in one of the states, that is, respectively, trump does not fall under this definition at all. well, now, including

some former conservative judges , they insist that, uh, this issue be decided at the level of the supreme court and that it give its assessment, which, of course, the supreme court. i think he won't, because that way he'll be forced to take one side or the other. well, they are trying somehow find ways. in past programs, we said that we would look for something. ordinary to get donald trump out of the race, 'cause right now, uh, for all intents and purposes, he is. well, just the leader, who will be very difficult to catch up with is a matter of public opinion. as you know show that after each round of accusations against trump, some kind of legal claims against him

, his popularity among the republicans only increases. and now a theory has arisen that this is being done deliberately by the democrats, let republicans will nominate trump. and after that , one judgment after another will immediately fall upon him. independent voters i'm not talking about the democrats for trump after all these judicial twists and turns they will not vote and thus trump, and stop you think this is just some kind of speculation or really, there may be such a plan. well, the democrats definitely have a lot of plans. they develop different strategy strategies, and the bs strategy is a strategy. c will be whatever. i think it's one of the options they want uh undertake. but, and if we look at

the latest pools, er, for joe baidan, indeed, the situation is very, but not in his favor. right now, basically, uh, most of the republican leaders are ahead of him there, well, by a slight margin of 123% points. and here is a certain helen, for example, there is a fairly large gap, if i am not mistaken by 7% of points today, but new ratings were published and joe biden has popularity, that is, support for him, and activity as president has already fallen to 39%. respectively. i really think they will develop some strategies to stir up the know. consciousness a of the electorate to force him to still vote for joe biden in general, there are many different accusations against trump, but almost all of them have one common denominator - this denominator.

uh, trump's intentions are trump's attempt to ostensibly cancel the election results and stay in power illegally. but the more i look at what is happening, or attempts to count votes after the last elections, that in order to do this, they are ready to actually go for the abolition of the possibility of fair elections next year, because in such an environment it is very, very difficult to hold fair elections, in my opinion. and i 'm trying to understand why the biden administration doesn't care anymore.

it seems to me that this case is not about some, if you want a theoretical injustice, but we are talking about an attempt by the democrats, but to remove trump, but in such a rude, frank way, what it will look like, but if you like, almost like an attempted coup d'état, and that it could provoke a significant part, if not the majority of republican voters that is, in fact, half of the country? uh, did i exaggerate the danger and could it be that the biden administration is, uh, not concerned about this prospect, because in fact they would like to provoke a conflict in order to massacre their opponents. well, i think it's

too complicated a process for them. so-so think in that perspective. i think the main thing for joe biden right now is, uh, to stay in power and do everything possible to keep a majority in the senate, because if u votes in the lower house now to impeach him and the senate, he will still return, and in hands of the republicans, then it is quite possible that he will be impeached, that is , the probability is so high now uh, for him the most important thing is to keep power. and here, as they say, all means are good. they will be very rude. uh, it's worth it expect. uh, new and new attempts. and in general. i'm not surprised by anything in this matter. i'm from american history we know that on the eve of the election. american presidents do not like to show themselves in a situation of a long

electorate war. uh loves quick victories but when the war goes on for more than a year, when more and more money is spent on it, when, if you like, clouds are gathering, perhaps a nuclear catastrophe. this is usually not the kind of environment that campaign managers like. and yet, nevertheless the byte administration says in plain text that they are going to continue and expand the war in ukraine a next year during the election campaign. why doesn't it bother them? or they just think that they will give ukraine so many weapons that this time in the spring of 24, ukraine will quickly win. i think the stakes are very

high here. and i think that they themselves put ukraine in this way, that here for them there is supposedly a war not for ukrainian territory, but for democracy all over the world, which, of course, well, to put it mildly, an exaggeration and retreat. of course, they won’t be from this, and the new package, the help of which glinkin recently announced, suggests that all means are already good for them, yes, with a combined uranium projectile. well, think about it, cluster bombs. well , think, well, we violate, but all possible requirements. he's come to think of it, uh, and here i'm saying it's expected by anyone. ah, the consequences. we still have such a thing here, if they admit defeat, yes, then it will be in fact, but the failure of the entire democratic agenda. uh, the voters must have them they will ask, and what did our

money actually go for, therefore, now they will press until the very end to give whatever they want, and this is a kind of overton window. they will go on and on, uh, showing the public that all means are good, of course, this is contrary. uh, the previous, uh , election campaigns, of course, the presidents tried to settle and do everything possible to get out of some conflicts and not to take part in them , remember. what did donald trump do with afghanistan, yes, that is, they were. uh, active, rather peaceful negotiations in order to resolve all conflicts, but the biden administration, for some reason, does not. well, why here i think that there is a very simple explanation. they just don't want to, uh, admit any mistakes. i think you are correct. i have another simple explanation. the explanation is that they present

what is happening in ukraine not as an american war, not as something that threatens the united states. and like something that the united states has to spend too much money on, so uh they seem to that, as long as they are fighting, if you want , under the motto, they are ready to fight to the last ukrainian and in the process. they can say that they are hurting russia and killing russian soldiers and are rallying the west against russia and at the same time against china that it seems to them that they are waging, if you like, an undeclared war without american blood on foreign soil. but if this was their war, if they understood that

american lives are involved, there are big risks for america. i think their reaction might become very different. how do you feel about this idea? and i think that you are right, ah, but there is a completely clear strategic mistake here, because in view of the involvement of russia and china, especially yes, this is the second largest economy, and in the whole world processes, and america, of course, suffers and its economy suffers and suffers. uh, the wallet of every ordinary american , so, of course, we are not talking here, but those lost to life, uh, not counting, of course, those special forces that work on the territory of ukraine but on the other hand, we are talking about it's about americans who feel on their wallet in their daily lives.

uh, the aftermath of this conflict here, so i think there's a strategic error here, and they would like, of course, if they would think again about what's going on. i agree that american voters. he feels the consequences of the war in ukraine, but it seems to me that so far, at least, according to polls, he does not feel to such an extent that he begins to understand that this is their war. and that this war could bring them great misfortune, but before we end our conversation. i want to ask you one last question , there was a lot of hope, at least among specialists in the united states. there were many hopes in moscow that the republicans, when they take control of the house of representatives, that they will, if you want to be more skeptical about the rampant

funding of ukraine, this has already begun to happen or not. well, now, if we look at the plans for voting on the so -called on the so-called omnibosbel. yes indeed. eh now uh, very big discussions within the republican party are underway and and now it will be just extended. as far as is projected to be extended, the budget of the previous year, respectively, they are of course from er, trying to avoid stopping the work of the government. but the fact that the discussion is about the need to cut spending, and remember that in the previous period , mccarthy has already said that he will not fund emergency representatives of the republican. he said that we will not depart from the deal with biden raising the ceiling of the state long, and we will not be urgent fund, and other needs of the pentagon as

part of an emergency request. now there will be a very sharp fight, let's see. but at least such conversations are conducted well, it is better to have conversations, so that than a situation where all this was done without conversations . thank you. e, thank you for your great work and we hope to see you again soon on our air. take care of yourself. thanks it was a great game see you next week. hello, i'm pilot cosmonaut anton scalers is a hint of cosmic history.

today my guest is darya, the wonderful deputy general director of a private russian space company, a journalist. dasha hello, hello, anton nikolaevich, you graduated from the faculty of journalism and, as far as i understand, it had nothing to do with astronautics, but by some miracle you began to work in the space industry. tell us about your first contact with space. it seems to me that the key word here is miraculously, because i never planned and never i didn’t want to connect my life with cosmonians. i didn’t think about it. i’ll explain, in general, why i didn’t want to say, because i have , uh, my dad works in the aviation field all his life. and my grandfather, he was a pilot, so i can say that, probably, i can say that there is such an ovation dynasty. and of course, when i finished school first thing, my parents asked if i wanted to try to enter mine, but something like the moscow institute,

the moscow aviation institute. yes, but something in me was, apparently, different. it seemed to me that i am a more googler person, that i am a more creative person. yes, i decided to go to the faculty of journalism of the russian state university for the humanities, which i graduated from, probably eight years after i graduated from the university. i miraculously ended up in the museum of cosmonautics, but before we talk about the museum of cosmonautics. i will take a step back and tell you about what happened to me when i was 10-11 years old, because my first contact with space, if we talk about it, it happened it was just at this age that i lived at that time in hanoi in vietnam dad. i worked there as part of my job. he just met, uh, all the important guests who flew to the city of hanoi and once valentina vladimirovna tereshkova flew to hanoi , my father told me that the first woman was the astronaut arriving. i already knew it. naturally, i really wanted

to get to know each other, and i don’t remember my first feeling from our meeting, but i remember something else. i remember that she took a postcard then. ah, she signed this postcard to me and handed it to me. dad, i looked, and it was written there. darya all the best. valentina vladimirovna tereshkova and i remember that it gave birth to such an incredible wave of warmth in me, because many people came, many autographs left, everyone wrote very different ones. i was literally there a month before. another very famous person who wrote to me, dasha and listen to my dad, always dishes. i got upset. and here there was some kind of very warm, some kind of very human attitude. this was my first contact with space, and then you and i very quickly move on to 2014, when i am invited to the position of head of

the press service at the moscow museum of cosmonautics. and if you know, then in the fourteenth year, a new director just came to the museum and they were recruiting a new team. and here we are with this new team. i too came to the museum and a completely different life began for me, which i now can already say that it is 10 years old. i work in space. here i have. absolutely such a feeling, because i uh i received this participation in an absolutely incredible area that charges me so much that i can talk about it endlessly and thanks to what the museum gave me thanks to that experience, thanks to those acquaintances, thanks to those meetings that i had in the museum. i am really. it seems to me that i succeeded both in many ways as a person and in many ways as a professional in this field. what was the museum like? when you came to work in 2014, was the museum very different from the museum? eh, as we see it now with you and strongly?

i probably was different, because i, like many people, had the feeling that the museum is something frozen, that nothing is happening in the museum, that the museum is necessarily about some exhibits. e, behind which it is often not always clear what is worth. and especially if it is a science and technology museum, and therefore, of course, i had such an attitude towards the museum. i didn't know what to expect next. what else to expect from this place and quietly. my team and i started to develop it all to develop to develop one project we made the second project did something to improve here. something has been improved here and looking ahead, i’ll say that in 2014 the attendance of the moscow museum of cosmonautics was more than 200 thousand people in the year before the pandemics - this attendance was almost 800,000 people. the museum was filled with life the museum was constantly filled with some kind of activity, some kind of movement, and

very different target audiences began to come to the museum. that is, it is also important that not only there is a conditionally techie who lives in this in everything, so that people who are engaged in different, but different professions specialties far as far as possible from outer space, so that he also wants to come to the museum, so that they inspire through the stories that they can hear there, and so that they further, maybe, having left the museum already thought, or maybe somehow connect their life with space or remember, i don’t know any stories that their relatives told them about how their life was already connected with space, that is, there was a task. uh , the museum and they even had the first two tasks - after a person went through the whole exposure so that he understands filled. here it is with pride in general. that's because there is any exhibit that you look at. he is you. er, do you want it or not? he fills this here with pride and joy, probably from complicity.

and therefore, the first thought is that every person, perhaps, and the first , like yuri alekseevich gagarin, was the first in space, regardless of what area you work in or in some area you do something and the second thought. she, of course, is precisely about the fact that space is a topic the vast cosmos is a theme that you can. of course, in which one can immerse oneself to explore and e space to explore the topic with which each of us is connected, and speaking of exhibits, if there is a favorite exhibit in a museum, i think that any person who works or worked in a museum will say that all the exhibits in the museum are my absolute favorites, but of course, i will probably tell you about a few exhibits that at one time made a big impression on me. and the first exhibit is a cardiogram of yuri alekseevich gagarin, which was made the day before start. why does this exhibit make such an impression on me? because the first time i looked at him, i studied him surrounded by people with medical

education. and when they looked at this cardiogram, they tell me, and you know, it's amazing, but the person is absolutely not worried. i say how can he not worry. he will fly into space for the first time tomorrow. and that made a big impression on me. and i decided for myself that these are all the astronauts and all the people who, probably, are dedicated in their lives. seed they something very much like yuri alekseevich. i think that you are anton nikolaevich too. and probably, probably, they were a little worried, but on your cardiogram, it probably was n’t noticeable, and the second exhibit, about which i want to say, is an exhibit that entered the museum during my work in the museum. this is a letter from faina georgievna ranevskaya , which was written on the death of yulia alekseevich gagarin in the sixty-eighth year, and the letter is faina georgievna raevskaya, who wrote tatyana a test of her friend's journalist. why did it make me

such an impression? because i saw in this letter, and the reaction and pain, probably, the population of not only the entire soviet union , but the whole world, to the death of the first e, the cosmonaut of the planet. i can even quote a few lines from there, because i worked very hard with this letter. there are probably two such fragments that i can now reproduce. the first fragment sounds as follows, and faina georgievna ranevskaya writes. that day i played scenes from somovo and when i returned home i drank vodka alone , this has never happened to me. and immediately it is clear how people perceived the death of the first cosmonaut and even further. she writes. she says why gagarin was not told that , but now he belonged to the world, and not to himself, and they allowed him to fly, and i read this letter in special gloves next to special people from the funds. i held it in my hands. this,

of course, makes a huge impression. and did you have the opportunity to visit, uh, various space objects, well, thanks to the fact that you work at the museum of astronautics, of course, and the museum opened an example. ah, the museum generally opened the door to this industry and this area, and a few places that i want to talk about, and the first one is probably the rk energy, because the museum that houses the museum, which is the enterprise that makes our ships part of the station, yes they have their own museum. they have their own museum there. maybe, as far as i understand by the agreement , small, maybe even openly. even here it is only necessary to contact them and time. yes why did he impress me? because there i saw genuine e, descent vehicles and yuliya alekseevich gagarin and alexei arkhipovich. leonova if i'm not mistaken in the intimacy of vladimirovich tereshkova that is, all the originals are there, then

many years later. we have already done an exhibition at the museum of cosmonautics. and, uh, the descent vehicle of yuri alekseevich gagarin was on display at the museum of cosmonautics for some time, then returned there, but this is really a place where i also felt some kind of this involvement in space, if there is such an opportunity, but to everyone advise it a place to visit, especially if there is an interest in astronautics and a love for this topic. and one more place is mvp. institute. the medicine of biological problems is also a cosmic place. and i remember that for the first time i saw this special one there . the first isolation experiment in 1968. it was called oh, yes, it was called a year in a starship, a very interesting experiment. a very small room a small experiment and the most interesting thing is that the film is about this experiment can be found on the internet to watch to see how he passed the documentary . everything is based there, that is, it looked

very interesting. do you remember the main results, which were very shocking, that people did not communicate later, and so on, look from such a practical scientific point of view. i will remind you that there was also a romantic story, because the person who participated in this experiment. he at some point realized that he fell in love with a girl who worked outside this space. she worked. at the institute of biomedical problems and they and if by voice, otherwise we didn’t have a video, if i’m not mistaken, it was purely voice communication and correspondence, and there was correspondence and well, you see how i also touched the film at this moment. i strongly advise you to look at this one, because in general, in order to have an idea of ​​what an isolation experiment is, and because at the institute of biomedical problems , these experiments are still being carried out a lot. they were different conditions were simulated and when flying to the moon and landing on mars we we remember all the mars 500 experiment. yes, a

year and a half in isolation and a year and a half in isolation. it's impossible to imagine better than half a year. yes, in orbit, but i wanted to say that it’s hard for me to imagine how it is possible and everything is much better there, and the entire crew is sociable from time to time. no, it's interesting and every day is different. hmm, so i'm, uh, very proud of my job. it seems to me the most interesting work that you can imagine and the most beloved. i can't even imagine what i would be doing here. and if i hadn’t got into astronautics, i’m proud to get to know you and the astronauts and the fact that i also work in this industry. sorry for the expression. it's just difficult for these songs now so far no one has reached such a level. such is the sincerity of simplicity of duration. i wanted to convey just not a strong smile. but such a calmed state of his is somehow so bright, kind

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lev's surprise to visit the house of sergei pavlovich korolev to sit on a bench, which is located in the garden next to this house. and most importantly , above this bench on a tree hangs the same legendary horseshoe for good luck, which was back in its time. eh, sergei pavlovich korolev found it in the yard and attached it there himself, and therefore i remember very well when you and the crew

came to us more than once, and these ones. well, maybe, of course, i will take on such a mission, but, in my opinion, from our, uh, in my opinion, the very third flight. it was just this that we resumed this tradition of drinking tea in the house , because indeed, sergei pavlovich korolev, just on the eve of the start of gagarin , came to the house where he was next door to the neighboring house, and came to visit. uh, they drank tea to gagarin titov, it really went down in history and i am very glad that the museum supports this tradition with pleasure. we're leaving. that's with the movie crew. we were it was another such dive in astronautics into history, that is. they saw genuine things, among which sergei pavlovich korolev lived, visited his house, heard a lot of interesting things from your colleagues, and i know for sure, they remember all this time how such a good, kind place, hospitable

, where you always want to return, but apart from the tradition that connected with the house of sergei pavlovich korolev, i also want to talk about the experience, which seems to me, i’m all filled up all my life once i was, and on the return of the crew from the international space station along with a search and rescue team. i went to the kazakh degree for a long time . and we spent the night in the steppe, and i remember this morning. it was summer, and the dawn and they give us a photo when it happens. uh, return of the crew. by the way, i can even say what kind of crew it was. when oleg kononenko was the commander of the ship, he flew with, uh, sanjak, and with ann mclane and this crew we met ah, amazing, just something incredible. that is, it seems to me that the moment the rocket takes off is this is something that changes, uh, human

perception. and here you are no longer just seeing off the cosmonauts. are you meeting them here? it seems to me that it is always more pleasant, and i remember, it seems to me that this morning is literally there by the minute, when we understand that when everything happens, everyone has already had breakfast , literally everything is ready. here, there remains a few minutes of the house of the moment when in absolutely transparent. uh, blue blue sky should appear, this black dot is a lander that's coming back from space. when i tell, that is history. i always tell everyone that i allowed myself, when i saw this dot, i allowed myself not to forgive for a person. works in this industry thought. so i look, the sky was transparent , there was nothing. and at that moment i see this dot and i say. listen to the cosmos, everything really exists. they are returning. and it's amazing this point is getting bigger more bigger at this moment absolutely such a very professional fuss on earth because

everybody is going going going going all the services are running. everything is very harmonious there, blue birds, these are cars, and they're lined up on the horizon , it's all incredible. it is beautifully clear that the people who are working at this moment. they don't pay attention to it that way. i still went there as representatives of, let's say, a press team of a team of journalists, and i had the opportunity to reflect on this topic. special landings are taking place. people are approaching the uh of the descent vehicle. there is a radiation check. one second, that is, everything is very clear. i'm surprised how a huge number of services work simultaneously. i say, harmoniously, this is probably the most correct word that describes the process, and astronauts appear when i open the descent vehicle. and at this moment, it seems that some kind of miracle happens. well, and then i tell you this way, as if you had never had anything to do with it, had never met anyone. bye. at least, i think that

it is there from the inside. of course, and everything is perceived in an even more amazing way. well , from the outside it looks like this, but for 10 years of work in the museum. and there were meetings who remember the most, i can’t single out one at once, because it would be incorrect in front of everyone else, and their astronauts and employees of the rocket space industry, with whom i had a chance to talk, because every meeting something new was born in me something brought, but i have to answer this question. and i , probably, will tell about, uh, several of my meetings with alexei arkhipovich lemon, who came to the museum of cosmonautics many times, who already perceived this place as a kind of house, it was absolute the feeling that he felt at home there, probably in the best sense, like at home and i. i remember, ah alexei arkhipovich leonov , the first time we had a shoot, i remember that there were some foreign journalists and alexei arkhipovich, and already somewhere in the fifth or sixth

hour of shooting. he continued he was so energetic he was already naturally aged. he was very energetic, he gave some instructions to the film crew there. we continued this shooting and after about 5-6 hours our colleagues. uh, foreign journalists, they come up and say alexei arkhipovich. let's let's take a break and take a break. we need lunch, we need to exhale a little. it’s difficult for us, and here alexey arkhipovich gets together and says, so i worked like this for 20 years without lunch, and you won’t continue to shoot, and we’re about a hangman. yes, about 3 hours of the company is always 3 hours before and in the evening they were still filming, really. there, it seems to me, they didn’t even begin to go for some water, because that’s how it is for them. so i still, of course, remember the story of elixir arkhipovich. leonov e, he was very fond of telling in detail in all details about his spacewalk. uh, for those who does not know that you are now just

not wasting time on it. i probably advise you to watch the movie time of the first, where it is told in great detail. well, let me just remind you that alexei arkhipovich leonov had to return to the airlock, as we remember , with his feet, and inside the airlock itself, in order to close the hatch behind him, because it will close automatically. yes , back then no one made it automatic, and he had to close the amount, because no one could do it for him we remember him that due to the large number of emergency situations, many of which aleksey arkhipovich coped with, but he failed with his feet. uh, to go down he had to swim with his head, he bleeds the pressure in the spacesuit, exposing his life, of course , to a colossal risk, but when he understands, to what pressure can one bleed? yes, he turns around closes this hatch and further. that's when he told the whole story, he then made such a pause, theatrical and spoke, and you know what is most important, i understood

at that moment, as if everyone who listens to him in this moment they froze trying to understand what he was saying. i realized that if you want to live, know how to spin, brilliant daria what projects are you proud of, which were, uh, the museum of astronautics. during your work projects was called the search for unsent postcards. i will tell his backstory. and then my colleague olya and i worked together in the press service and at some point it flies to us. just on the wings of inspiration, an employee from the picking and closing service, which brings 16 postcards with a photo cosmonauts vladimir mikhailovich komarov and we see that on the reverse side of these open authors cosmonauts it is genuine and by his own hand. uh, it says who the postcard is for and where it should have been sent, but for some reason those postcards weren't sent. and it was interesting that all of them were signed by the residents

of ufa and my colleague and i. our perception still works a little differently, we look at these postcards, and the same idea is born in our head at the same time. why don't we try after half a century find the recipients of these unsent postcards and send such hello from the space past. and we are starting this big machine to find these people. and how many emotions we experienced simply cannot be conveyed, but also looking ahead, i will say that and we did not find only four people, that is, 12 out of 16 addressees of these postcards. we found more than that, and as part of this action, we held a very large exhibition at the moscow museum of cosmonautics, which was the village. we invited everyone to vladimir mikhailovich komarov whom we found either recipients or their relatives, if the addressees themselves were no longer alive, we invited them to the museum. we solemnly handed them these postcards, and the government

of bashkortostan directly. here are the cities, ufa, when they found out about it, they supported the search as much as possible, these people here, yes , and television journalists joined this work, and as a result, and on the building of the aviation institute in the city of ufa where this meeting with vladimir mikhailovich komarov took place a memorial plaque was installed and that's it. that grew out of these sixteen open ones and there was one more a project that i also really like. this too. by the way, i will talk about half a century. it was a game of chess that was played between earth and space 50 years later, and the first game was played in 1970, when astronauts in the mission control center and astronauts in orbit played chess. and we are like people who work in popularizing this industry. we decided 50 years later, exactly half a century later , to repeat this game and this time

the museum, astronautics and the international space station were already playing, and such was the wave interest in the topic of chess, that we are, as it were, on this wave even further. let's go, we also attracted the theme of space to this topic. uh, they became interested in space, they became interested in the museum, they became interested in the united states. all this was live in two languages, a huge number of coverages, a huge number of views. well, of course, many more people, then i wanted to come to the museum of cosmonautics. i know that uh, you wrote a book and space animals. can you briefly tell about it, how the idea came about, and what to read or who have not read it yet can be there read. yes, this book is called animal braid. auto first conquerors of space, i'm not talking about all the animals there. first of all, i'm talking about dogs that flew into space. and the idea of ​​this book. born from two moments. first. i began to pay attention to the fact that people who come to the museum, regardless of their

age. they only know three dogs that have flown into space. this laika is the first dog that went into space and belka and strelka are the first living beings who not only flew into space, but also safely returned to earth, but there were many more of these dogs. and i learned this, by the way, everything, thanks to the institute of biomedical problems, because i had the opportunity to work with archival documents with the memories of people who directly prepared these dogs for space flights, and at some point during this communication.