about the width, let's look at the mileage, by the way. lord god, my girls with peaches. let's celebrate, okay. uncles and aunts, let's start eating. the question is in the film story. i understand that this is the director's script. yes , that’s just what we called it in soviet times, converted. yes, but kinopois was such a genre, yes, in the film story he has a whole speech here. he says that we are here people , let’s love each other, because i love you, otherwise we live like spiders in a jar, but a broad person needs our mikhalych, who is still with me

the deepest love for shukshin is very far away. the thing is, no, it was cut out. by the way , this is one of the rights to uh, that is, it was not even important. i'll tell you why , because, uh, he is himself. in a sense, he is more proficient in his relationships with himself than these karamazovs. i will take upon myself such a careless, but possibility to say, yes, because yes, let me not allow you and nevertheless, because he doesn’t need to narrow it down. he narrowed himself down, you know, he himself, he got to the point that what he arranged a holiday. this is tinsel. he’s the one who says that this is tinsel. he understands that this is not the only thing. what can he rely on? this is a panthetic motif associated with birch trees, which he also followed

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maratovich karakhan sergey vladimirovich vereikin. i'm vladimir, we continue. is it possible to say? what is by and large and also surprising? here is not one, but two gospel stories of the prodigal son and the repentant thief. it's with the prodigal son. all clear. all clear. although the same is again here, what we started talking about. eh, a mixture of real history and on-screen yes, as if, if we remember the fate, er, the heroine, this one who played, well, did not play, actually told about himself. eh yes, which ma- mammon yes yes, by the way, an amazing thing. yes, how organic it looks with documentary sound. yes, that is, for me, in this sense, this is just the biblical story of the prodigal son, because she perceived shukshin as you know, she was extremely worried as her own. uh, when he died, uh, and in principle, probably, was called with ink and for her, really the prodigal son, who left him. we always speak from the side of the son. yes, now from the outside. actually

in this case the mother. eh, and for this return took place. she never saw her own son. uh, missing. well, not was the dark son who returned to her. uh, about the robber here. i would probably agree with aratovich's album here, in general, but the robber is not so obvious. that is, he actually reviewed for me how much, perhaps, which is why the first part of the picture is about robbers. she is like that. forgive me, the late gaidai, but, in general, it was rather shot in his vein. yes, here this is uh hmm, such a deliberate roadside and thieves' raspberries. eh, here's the droillera, again mentioned so deliberately. and even if you remember the episode when, after raspberries, the police chasing them, and he hides on his feet films, yes, policemen, like a cartoon, and shukshin himself, he makes such paga with his feet. uh, well, it’s as soon as the heroes of ivan vasilievich take a step back, like, if we remembered from what yes to ourselves, that is, there this rogue, he ’s some kind of not very real, well, for me it’s not a story at all. uh, well, it seems to me

that in every good movie you can find an angelic story, because there is a type. that's why there are stories for me. yes, there is a gospel story, but here there is very shukshinskaya, the story that a person never found himself and did not get to himself. this race in width is no good. uh, how to say, then uh in uh razin already in the very novel that he wrote. uh, width turns into latitude. this is a little different , but it’s still a concept. e on personal life, the specifics of life, but to feel not that it is impossible to touch spiritual matter with your hands. he couldn't he tried. this man's search, of course, is not there either, like a search, but this is not an open ending. this the ending is tragic, because this person,

who, in his search, has reached a dead end. that 's the trouble, and if e in the seventy-fourth year, it's 73 year seventy-fourth, tarkovsky takes off the mirror. by the way, they are classmates. yes, there is a little different. i classmates shukshin filmed with him. yes , the course was amazing. yes, yes, there’s also saltykov meta, who just didn’t have it there, and the tarks have a completely different outcome, where the hero dies, because he is faced with such vital material from which one cannot help but die, but he dies for in order to live and he lets go of this bird that flies away this, well, maybe, too much even for tarkovsky, such a direct symbol. yes, the holy spirit, but he speaks and is almost inaudible. i have several times. eh, when i looked at the pictures several times for the first time, i didn’t notice these words at all. he says everything will be fine. he opens up a new life that arseny tarkovsky in his poem

, which sounds in this film, life, life just says, that there is still life, life, not only life, but shukshin's hero ran into life. he did not feel this life, did not discover it for himself in this tragedy of his, because , well, let's say this. yes, here is the classic picture of gadar on his last breath, and there is the famous dialogue with the patrician, which the hero leads on the map played by belmondo and she asks him. what do you choose sadness or death? he says i choose death sadness. this is a compromise. the whole point is that for prokudin this is an existential choice. quite i choose god there is no and let's go. and here, uh, impossible existential choice, because for him death is a compromise, he is a losing hero. here's the thing, he was in a maximalist mood, and there 's an amazing episode where he rides on, uh, a hydrofoil, how many is called?

look, maybe, uh, drag him off for a couple. this is the thought, yes, to drag a ship on hydrofoils, he is a wide person, but he cannot this breadth, and cannot fit this breadth into some inner message in spiritual movement. he tries to do it anyway. yes, at the same time, this is the penitent of his words, yes, when lord forgive me and right there, when he says give me time. this sounds kind of wild. he says, at least let my hair grow back. yes. and what about your voice? well, it's like uh the person who speaks. yes, i want to go to church, but tomorrow is why i am tomorrow. well, it seems like this is all putting it off until tomorrow. it's such. this is, as it were, the morok of the sixties, by the way, dear friends. i hmm that's what i want to tell you at the end. but the fact is that the story with my student had a continuation; she

was expelled no no no she suddenly writes after 2 years. the student tells me the same thing, remember, we watched the movie, kalina is red. i just watched an amazing movie. recommend me something else from the soviet films, well, the film of the soviet era. yes, i know, i wanted to ask you for a conclusion. let's give you some advice? here from the non-soviet soviet here, thus our students 21-23, what would you now, as a result of our conversation, could advise him to look at the mirror of tarkovsky. i don't know how uh, it won't scare you. let's say a 20-21 year old person, but in my opinion. this worth at least trying to see. uh, something from herman alexei sr. accordingly, i would recommend it, because again it's probably to make you think

about what soviet cinema is and expand these uh. here. i would like to start with this and let 's see, since we are talking about students. i would recommend pedagogical cinema, because the mirror and the germans. i think, one way or another , they will look, because these are basic paintings, which one way or another, after all, a person touches them sooner or later, but there are a wonderful picture, and ilya bach other people's letters about a teacher who cannot understand, and the character of her student gives in to him, because she cannot explain why you can’t read other people’s letters, because , uh, this picture is good for that, because you can’t explain it later, everything and the point is what should be inside, what should be, like an internal law inside of us, this

should be, because it cannot be explained, but soviet reality. unfortunately was closed to these internal laws, which can not be explained, they just have to be there and the old teacher, amazing says, and why not, because that's all. thank you dear friends leo, thank you for your karakhan sergey vladimirovich vereikin. we were gathering our thoughts about the red kalina vasily makarychevna. dear friends, the creative industry podcast is on air, this is an anniversary issue, but we have an anniversary one, and michala efimovich shvytkov has it. michael hello, thank you very much, we will not

say how many years, which everyone already knows. i think quite a few mikhalych, uh, special representative of the president for international cultural cooperation and artistic director of the moscow musical theatre. what do you think, when you appear on the screen, what the population thinks first, the population thinks about how to turn off the tv as soon as possible. eh, i say, quite seriously, even to say immediately that i generally treat any audience with trepidation. uh, because uh, if there is no contact with the public on television or in the theater or then it is to blame. uh, to blame, not the public. in this sense, she is always right. i how in the soviet electricity store there was always an inscription above the saleswoman, the buyer is always right, the appearance, always the right. well, someone thinks that i'm the host of the agora program

there, in general, like a person, uh, who has read three books, some people like it when i was leading comedians or, let's say, life is beautiful and singing songs. i liked it too, to be honest. uh, because i came to, uh, yale university, and uh, that means, uh. i was there , uh, uh, human department read several lectures, and the history of russian cultures, and in this university at that time, and he taught distinguishing from me there constantly. well, there was such an outstanding lithuanian poet thomas, in a word he was such a wonderful one, and he says to me, my hostess, who invited me to the university, and she says, listen, come on, let's go to dinner. well, he will come, including with his wife, but i prepared myself to read it right away, which means i began to look for his poems, but in order to make some impression. uh, he

came to me and told me. oh how we love our program. life is beautiful, and we began to remember soviet songs, so that's all such a thing did not come to poetry in your face . the ministry of culture has become the ministry of happiness. it seems to me, because you are always a very cheerful person. you have been broadcasting this culture all the time, which really enriches a person with positive emotions. once upon a time , grisha gorin's grandfather grigory israel said glasses, when i like life, it passes faster. this is one of those important and very unexpected ones. and i think that one of the problems is serious. here we are when there was covid, and it ended, we were allowed to play 25% amplifiers. and everything was clear. we played at twenty-five percent. there they suffered endless losses, then they allowed 50 and the formula. life worked amazingly well,

because people left the house all quarantines ended. it seemed to everyone that, well, now it’s starting, and then it means, after the special war began, the operation, we sat for a long time thinking, should we actually play in a play called life is beautiful, and we decided to win, the audience really responded to it's warm. what do you think is this putin? this may be a huge question, my personal question. but to what extent we are generally the masters of our destiny, when we go and quickly arrange this path, perhaps i haven’t thought about it in co-creation. what can i do? there you decide your own destiny. i understood perfectly well that we live in such proposed circumstances, that there are large lines of history that dictate this or

that behavior, because in any proposed circumstances. you can behave. well, well. or maybe if i behave indecently, it doesn’t mean i’m a conformist, i’m absolutely not a conformist. i accept the terms life as they are. i don't invent anything. eh, i'm not trying. uh, there fighting and screaming that we are now breaking everything. let's rebuild everything now. i'm talking about it at all, it's not about me. as good soldier sheik said, i stand in the party of moderate progress within the framework of the rule of law? ah such position she from childhood. well, yes, when i lived with my grandmother, my mother had her own family , and naturally. eh, this is the need not to offend anyone. find some right balance. sometimes even sometimes even lie, if only not well, not

offend one or the other, there and so on. well, grandmother was not needed. everyone knew that now he did not live. i'm with my grandmother until the age of twenty, my grandmother is waiting for my grandfather. i would like to move forward a little to where you became a minister and on the day when the president invited you to become a minister. i know that you entered the president's office with intent. in general , the president convinced you to refuse there, but i have another question. here you are, when the president came out, what were you thinking at that moment? i thought what a horror. i just realized that the situation as it was in 2000. it was extremely difficult, well, so that they don’t understand, what was the state of the ministry of culture, i was the chairman of the all-russian state television and radio broadcasting company, we already had a large office and

everything else then, uh, well, then it was called automation. now called digitalization, there was such a moscow computer center, uh, which, uh, did for us then the best that could be uh, from the point of view of communication. uh, i had the internet in my office, this whole story was just beginning. hmm, and mikhail yuryevich was seriously engaged in this. e. the kingdom of heavenly man is above the degree of being carried away by this. and so, it means that there are eight screens in the office somewhere. there's a back and forth communication link. we knew it all then and then, when suddenly from a phone like this you got a phone like this, yes, but you got a phone like this, and then just like makhin yes, it was something incredible. i come to the ministry

of culture. uh, uh, or rather my assistant, the television guy comes to the ministry of culture and enters the office, which means he says, and there is eric’s car with this big big carriage, if you remember fashionable things from these days, yes, yes, and uh, and that’s it, and he says, guys. well , at least you are there, well, like some kind of there, well, put a computer. well, when i arrived there was a computer, i’ll try to use this computer to go to the secretary. at least it turned out no , they installed a computer, but there were no communication networks inside the ministry’s networks, yes, but this is a small detail, but it is very characteristic. we tried to live on television. it's closer to the twenty-first century. and here everything was still poor, firstly, there was no money. here, this is the worst. i left the ministry in

1997, when there were some terrible mutual offsets , monstrous something transgaz somewhere through some kind of something like that. maybe build something and then at the end you should get a salary for, uh, that means 700, probably people every year when you were deputized. here, yes, that's it. it is worth saying with horror. i understand that this is something generally transcendent and i, when in 2000 i came. i understand this is a huge problem. you see, there was a very difficult moment in the nineties. there was no money for a cultural institution, they told you. you are free to hand over there in front of a connoisseur. survive, the idea was one. we must pay tribute to evgeny yuryevich fedor and konstantinovich shcherbakov, who was his first deputy, the idea was to preserve everything that could be preserved in the sphere of culture. and when they tell me now there was a book and wait

that we were the most reading country and always i say, the most reading between the lines of the country, but hmm, if we look at, let's say, inventories, well, the funds, damn, domestic there are 90 of some second year, then three quarters of this was carried away, after all, marxism, or there is a small earthen and there, uh, i don't know, tens of millions. yes, so the design itself was very strange. and, of course, the main task was money, money, money, money money money, and uh, when the program of the cultural revolution in general. my love affair with television is like that. uh , the real one that started in the 2000s. well like a leader. yes, he was connected to one. i must ironically recognize the secretary of the minister of finance, not the minister of finance, i see him, here is the secretary and there are women who work in departments in

the ministry of finance and in the ministry of economy, because you came from the tv. well, he sings songs on sundays or saturdays. well come. well, well, how is he? well, too much, yes, refuse. well, in general, here it is, ah, but in fact, the problem was incredibly many and it was a colossal problem. uh, i'll never forget, uh, started in february, not cloudy march is such a sun. uh, the ministry of culture of the russian federation was located in the building of the former or not the former, they built it for a computer center, so it was kind of such a huge yes. and it was difficult and expensive to wash their cloudy glasses, and two people come to my office e , mikhail alexandrovich ulyanov and kirill yuryevich lavrov, whom i naturally knew as a theater critic, be quiet, they are older by there years, 15. they are so they are the same artists, they

came in like that yes mish well you know not if you fired it, it means they started it, it means they scoff at their wonderful theatrical, and ulyanov was, in principle, randol one of the buildings, he could play from zhani and marshal zhukov, and this one means everything. i started to find out with them what was going on. and when i realized how much they receive two great artists, as theater directors , as artists yes, and then we had an idea, and then yuri khotovich temirkanov was involved in this and valery wrote georgiev and then igor ivanovich who worked in administration and the idea was simple: we needed to make a grant for artists. i promised very simply in 1943.

stalin, during the war, appointed such extra salaries to the state sarchestra for the bolshoi theater by five collectives, well, five collectives, only for one it is necessary to preserve the cultural elite, yes, and everything was very simple with us at the bolshoi theater artists all were abroad at excuse me at night. this i can say, all the ballerinas had 30 days a month of menstruation, and at that time they performed somewhere abroad, the men had the same thing as this it was about everyone who danced abroad in order to assemble a normal line-up. it was almost impossible. and, because it was still very simple, they received 200 dollars a month in moscow. and for a performance there in hamburg they received 5,000 dollars point and it was necessary to find some kind of mechanism and it was impossible to blame them for this well, we see, well , we remember that in the nineties. there , our hockey players began to leave, there, and so on and so

forth, these tool mechanisms were needed. to save people in the country, we managed to create a tool with which everyone large collectives of the country received the president. i understood perfectly well that if they solved this problem, then no, there was nothing for culture to do at all. this is, of course, saving schools, because we were butting heads with the ministry of education all the time. they explained that at the theater institute very often one teacher teaches one student ; it was considered that this was generally abnormal. well, how crazy d. one teacher. well, at least five students. and when such questions arose, then vasily semyonovich lanovoy ever taught artistic expression, they cited here i wanted someone checking him and showing him how, well. well, well, it's a wave. in this tea, you don’t mind

showing it in front of your eyes no. i don’t mind, a handsome , smart, kind and charming man , a talented artist. yes guys, they call me crazy. i really liked one girl, but the girl really didn’t like the fact that i was studying at a construction institute. and then one fine day she told me, you know what, go ahead and enroll in the theater data center oh handsome, not a single star deviates from its path. graduated play. i'm getting out of the rowing room. dus, i’m a foreigner, but i’m not a stranger, they’re like two birds, god, how beautiful this is. mom somehow without her. i don’t really imagine my life as kostylevsky. i have a fiancée, please listen to me. now we will return, star

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month a new interest-free period of 120 days begins. shop so again and again free forever superstar nine eight percent. apply online for the creative industry podcast let's continue the conversation on air. he is visiting mikhailmych today. bittern is a huge farm. you started to build and transform then. yes, i do not transform. i just understand that all this needs to be saved somehow and, of course, the most important of art, as we know, is a movie quote that sounds unpleasant, but it really sounds like the most important arts are cinema and the circus in the conditions of absolutely illiterate russia, which means that then we took both cinema and the church into the administrative wing; these were big scandals. uh, the filmmakers categorically believed that

it was wrong that the state cinema should exist separately, just as the state cinema of the ussr and the ministry of culture had always existed separately. eh, the circus has broken free. and, uh, it means that the russian state circus was subordinate to the government. and there was such a story. i cried when we talked to the cantemirs, because the big attractions there are like, for example, the equestrian church. yes, there was one book that was wonderful, it began in soviet times and began in the 19th century. in russia , he followed the signs of the development of the equestrian circus. so here is the equestrian church. it was something like this started all the big rooms with big animals. what they did we had outstanding trainers and stayed. in general, it was necessary to do this, but cinema. well, cinematography was a problem.

when we came here, we collected all this. there were 150 halls in russia. equipped with modern turnover and we have been born for a long time then with the leadership of the government, then. i say, give money for the development of the network. they say no, we won't. i say well then, don't touch the american cinema. give money for the production of soviet. well, russian cinema. but then don’t touch foreign films, because the networks make money from foreign films. they are expanding. give us money so we can increase the amount of russian cinema at the same time, they said to the gnats that it was nazar, that there was no need to touch the cartoon, but do you think now the quantity of russian cinema is sufficient and the quality is good? well, you understand what ’s the matter, and we have reached some level. it was

about a quarter then in terms of box office receipts and a quarter in terms of uh repertoire, but i can now understand this code today, india produces 2,500 feature films. i think that for our cinema it is still necessary to produce e-order. well, 150-200 feature films, especially in the current conditions, when we found ourselves in a difficult position with the repertoire. uh, but it’s not just this , you know, uh, at the end in the second half of the forties at the end of the forties. uh, stalin had this idea that why release a lot of films? let's make only masterpieces. and film production dropped instantly there and ten titles a year. here the thaw began and somewhere in 50 there. well, i always

say let's go to the cinema. this means that the film kolotov, true friends, has begun. it was a rocking boat. well, it doesn't matter. and this means that a large number of films have begun to be released again. i mean, if we talk about what i read, it’s important to me as something cultural. well, of course, it was necessary to create an environment. yeah, which people could freely. develop to create what you do? here you are, dear roman that is , you help people to implement projects. and this is very important. i think that today is just the understanding that you need to create an environment from here. there's taurida from here, art master, there's a lot of things from here, and let's say by chance. uh, here, uh, again, uh, moscow will be now great cinema class, where up to hundreds of films will be released, you understand, this is also an idea , very correct censorship is needed in general,

such a question. eh, not the easiest for me. i’ll explain why. eh, it means on the one hand. e you immediately remember albert comeau, who wrote that free literature can be good and bad, and not free literature, maybe only bad. but this is true and not true, because freedom of creativity generally does not depend on the presence of censorship, all russian literature, the great, was written in censored russia freedom in general is a test. we thought that freedom is happiness, freedom is a tragedy. in general, if we speak seriously, because when you live in such an authoritarian, concrete place. uh, when you live in a state that determines everything including which side you should sleep with your wife on. hey, what church do you go to? there and so on.

many people relate to this, well, not with some joy, because as it was written in one polish oven at one time. as for me, a cell from braszkiewicz restricts freedom, but guarantees safety. this is always an exchange of freedom for comfort. the algorithm is clear. of course , i think that censorship is definitely bad. this is not right for a person. it's insulting. this means that we don’t trust people who will either see something, the wrong thing, or find out something, you know, i have my favorite jokes. i will allow myself to perform it one more time. eh, i'm for very young viewers. if they watch, this is when you are in soviet times, when all sorts of radio stations enemy, which means they were trying to upset the life of the soviet people, then they jammed them in the wilderness.