oh, it’s right for anastasia to go to the teacher, she understands that something needs to be discussed. this is also a rather complex dialogue. you understand that your child depends on the teacher, if the teacher doesn’t like him, the teacher will be angry . the child will suffer, that is, you need to somehow build a dialogue correctly. how to properly build a dialogue between young parents and such venerable teachers here yes, some practical advice : firstly, it is very important that parents support the teacher in the third, because, to unfortunately, as a practical psychologist, i constantly deal with situations where parents discuss things in front of their children. yes, those are the teachers there. no, listen, i remember from mine we weren’t very good there, yes, and who is she there? yes, she’s been there for almost a week. yes, she's just young. we have like our parents, or a young teacher. i don’t perceive it, or she’s already become old. she ’s already there, knowing her there a hundred years ago, that is, that’s why we ourselves roared. we often

form frivolous relationships with children. disrespectful to teachers, so it's important to say. listen, you have such a good teacher. she's great. listen, please do it. this is my recommendation and instruction, so it’s the right attitude for the child. firstly, of course, of course, because everyone has some kind of negative experience with something, of course. here we should not proceed from the presumption of the goodness of teachers, and yet. let's treat it this way and in this regard we need to instruct the child so that the child please obey the teacher. he's good to you. this is the first objective teacher. here. eh, let's just say, the second one accordingly. if you let’s say, you know the characteristics of your child, that the child is emotional or churish, for example, or maybe shy away from the board, come up in advance, that is, don’t sort things out later, when the problem has started, but come up and say, dear revanna, and there sergei petrovich doesn’t matter there , as you know with my child. there are such features. if it is possible, please, how could they be taught in this regard by a teacher who, especially, already has some work experience. he, of course. it will be there somewhere

please don't ask my child is the first one, he is the first one there who is afraid. if possible, there, please let the child think a little there, but because there are teachers who shoot like that, not all children immediately begin to answer. yes, someone needs to get ready to concentrate, then clamped down on something else. uh, it’s very important to give these instructions. in addition, now school psychologists are appearing in schools and are well trained, and we can also approach them. as a mother, you have every right to say. you know i have a child the child there is very worried about difficulties in communicating with peers. yes, or he is afraid of the teacher, that is, you can play there, if you can play along, if you can, just give it to the child, because the same uh, school psychologist. just let the roach tell your child, mashenka, how are you? all good. everything is fine. the child knows that there is someone who can pay attention to the child and will already feel comfortable. strictly speaking, therefore, your task is to show that the child has allies from those who may be suitable, and again with adults speaking, you will still form the right attitude towards your child in advance and we will. we will avoid a military conflict, because

we will have to find out with the teacher. oh, you are bad there. oh, that’s not how you perceive my child; confrontation is the last thing that can happen at school, because again , teachers with a lot of practice will think, well , listen, well, well, i’ve been working here for 10 years , two years. it turns out that the teaching there is incompetent. there are some other teachers there, of course, who happen to be, well, somehow pure categorical, there or pedagogical there there are such unprofessionals in this regard , if you see a blatant, let’s say, situation related to the incompetence of the teacher or he, when he crossed the boundaries, became personal, and there is a child. yes, this kind of thing , unfortunately, happens rarely, but sometimes there is no need to be afraid to go to the school principal. yes , talk to him, as it were, so in fact you can defend yourself, but any preventive actions are always much more correct. but here i would like to clarify, because sometimes it happens that the conflict is actually resolved internally class and then the parents have the choice of either taking the child. schools either go

to the director or these, and the director can support the teacher. just based on something like that. well, quasi-pseudo professional solidarity and then you need to go higher and then the parents give up because they don’t think, okay? i'll go now and write a complaint. yes, i’m now trying to influence the situation, and then it will backfire on my child, especially. if there is nowhere to translate it, here’s how to correctly psychologically build tactics in situations of conflict. well, you know anyway. eh, do you understand? that the school administration is also a director or a teacher, they are not interested in the conflict developing, most often an antiquated compromise point is given, that the teacher there changes something in his approach to a particular child, but the parents also take their child where - somehow under greater control, so that the child better fulfills those standards, those standards that we are obliged to fulfill, like a schoolchild, proper negotiations. it's always a compromise that we are there we hear you, you will hear us, and both of them

take on some obligations. this is such a form of conversation, it usually ends positively, and in general , everyone is happy. but if we see some kind of, well, head-on conflict situation, where you are definitely absolutely sure that you are right , as a mother, yes, then we must, of course, move on, if the management of education. as a matter of fact, there is always a mayor’s office, that is , there are people who are authorized to resolve the situation, because in reality, of course, i don’t really like it as a psychologist transferring children from school to school, because in fact any transfer is quite difficult, like history. eh, moreover, many teachers there, as a rule, know, they can call you from school from school. why was there a conflict situation there between parents, there will be, say, teachers or school administration somewhere that will also be tense. i will add this. it seems to me that here, uh, in any case , it’s a losing situation from the child’s position, because either the child perceives the situation that i lost and that’s why we have there is no other way out. how to translate or can he

form some kind of impression? why did it happen? yes, i wanted to and i was transferred to such a manipulation, yes, of course, well, these are teenage children. they live a psychologist. eh, of course, i don’t like translations. i understand that translations are only necessary when there is a conflict within the class, when a child has become an outcast , when the bullying is so open, when a large number of classmates are involved, that is, it is already difficult to correct this with the teacher, in fact if it's sane most people are still teachers. these are sane people, let’s still treat them with understanding. it is possible to reach an agreement, it is important that no one raises the question of the principle, that there is a discussion platform. this is a psychic podcast. my name is natalya loseva i am our journalist today expert family psychologist doctor of science andrei sberovsky, and our heroine anastasia with whom we talk about school, how stress there are some other things that confused me in

the story anastasia i would like to be friends with you discuss this when anastasia spoke about her eldest daughter. i heard two things that uh, alarmed me. the first is anastasia’s control over her daughter, who is already 12 years old, and the second is the pain of parenthood of our time. this is a parent chat. let's talk about control first. up to what grade should you do homework with your child? up to what grade should you climb? and looking at the electronic diary means that the child has been assigned. yes, when parents begin to find out. parents begin to send each other, which means messages in instant messengers, what were they asking us today? in history or mathematics, this happens very often. yes, not children's parents. well , you know, i hmm, of course, for trust in the child, but you need to understand that a child in his teenage years was not considered to be able to cope with this trust, so control during construction. then what about the child’s academic performance, and is everything done

there for homework? naturally , we still have to do it for the next lesson, that is, in this regard, i am a supporter of control, it should be gentle. it must be control which are not offensive to the child. yes, when we do not doubt, it is impossible to rely even on you, so that these rights do not sound, as if, yes, after all, we must control, but they say that we should control, but praise every success, homework done there , every successful a not should remain underestimated, because, unfortunately, you have an expression. yes, this is the problem of parents. unfortunately, it has always existed and will exist , and for a long time we will remain in the fact that we are fours and fives. we accept as we should. with your child , it’s nothing, but 2s and 3s, of course, evoke negative emotions in us. as a result, the child, uh, gradually develops an association with school and communication with dad and mom, and only through negativity, because we only react to negativity, so i’ll emphasize this idea : we must give a reaction to any grades,

because a b is an a. don't take it for granted but say it. oh, what a fine fellow you are, what a great fellow you are! our words go away. well done. they motivate the child better. how responsibility, accordingly, and reduces our need for further control, so there must be control, but not only for the purpose of identifying these same two, which but for the purpose of fans , it’s easy to react to them, because it’s right here. now, when you look, this is an electronic diary. you see this three there, you think, yes, oncologists learn to eat, two, types of reinforcement, positive negative, right? of course, this is why i am a theorist, of course, yes, because as a practitioner, of course, i also react. in in general, violently for bad ratings. this is true, but in those... i understand that you need to praise for a b. even if we understand that this is a b asking for physical education and against a c. e in mathematics for an a, all the more praise. but for a c for a d, you need to figure it out and help and sort it out

not immediately from the position, there are accusations. there is hatred and irritation, so let’s see what was difficult there. listen, well, it's not that difficult. in fact, let’s solve, 1-2 on the right equation there or one or two similar problems, as if we’ll solve it, then there is still a need to try to look for ways out. listen, what do you think, maybe we’ll try to hire a tutor for a lesson from tutors, because they all always have enough time. yes, i understand that you yourself can help, then of course tutors are especially now our online time. this is a serious argument and many parents , of course, take advantage of this and i don’t see any negative in this, because again, there are parents well, they don’t have enough patience or time, because parents are also very different, but they do their homework with their children. that's right it’s quite simply not not not a lack of ability, because explaining can be much more difficult than doing it yourself . and therefore, very often it turns out that parents

, instead of explaining to the child, he simply does not know how to. yes, i’ll decide for myself , take it, yes or just do genes like this. like this. why do it like this and we make things bad for the child. here's a little life hack. yes, these are the situations of those parents, uh, who , let’s say, have free time during the day, well , let’s say, now, again, many parents there, well, they work remotely or your schedule allows some priests to be alone at home, because the main problem is the lessons. this is because parents try to help the child do homework or do it together in the evening, when the parents are already tired during the day, when the child has already forgotten a lot, the child’s memory is not that long, so i advise, if there is the opportunity to be there with the child. at least at home, let’s not try to practice every day, so that you do your homework immediately after coming home from school, as if, of course, if the child there is hungry, we we’ll feed him, give him 15 minutes to rest, but it’s better to do the lessons right away while the child is still involved in the educational process by inertia,

when he hasn’t forgotten how it would be, yes. if there is such an opportunity, and again, when i come home, i still say that it is better to do my homework right away, and then have dinner. even if not everyone is there at six, but it’s already eight nine, but they decided to immediately hand over the deadlines, because when the parents came, they ate there, rested, and fell asleep on the 8th day. and in your lesson there, that’s when it happens. the most the main thing. this is how we choose a time for lessons as early as possible, as far as this allows, this is a life hack that his parents are all tired, if possible, in general, after all, parent chats, let's talk in the finale. it seems to me that this is the source of neuroses, and so on. uh, there are not very many of these chats, even if the child has one chat with his parents purely, yes, some of them are the teacher, and there are very few parent chats, as far as i know, in which it is possible to hold such an even constructive discussion. yes, very often

the position of the teacher and the position of the school administration slip down, because school chats are now, of course, a huge problem, because as a psychologist. i observe during the school year. there , almost every week, there are just some conflicts between parents, insults, like threats, so that the threats are lethal, daddies fight and it comes to the point of criminality in that difficult stories come up, so for me it is very important. in this case, uh, i'm trying with my parents, dear parents. you will agree, uh, with the teacher, your class teacher , the school administration, what it is. what are the standards of behavior in the chat , no one discusses anyone personally on topics not related to school , no one rolls away, certain strict boundaries when we are just talking about lessons. here is the topic, here are the essays and nothing more - donate money for graduation. yes please

, graduation for second grade. sorry yes , that's why it is very important that teachers and school administrators do not lose control of the chat, because as soon as they lose control, it will appear dominant mommy, dominant female, dominant male who will be there. as a matter of fact, there will already be threats and pressure, which is weak. and that you are poor people there begins and in this situation children, as a rule, get involved in this story and the child feels there that we are poorer there than others in the class. or vice versa, richer. i can behave uh arrogantly in class or towards my parents. it is very important for a healthy core of parents to agree to support the school. let the administration control it. need to in general, be in the chat where there is, uh, the class teacher and say that everything else, please inform me individually . and here is my advice to you as a mother, that it is advisable that you still make one or two or three friends in the class so that in some difficult situations, and

you have an agreed position that your children will again be such a core of friendship among themselves in this regard. well, i understand that the life of a child. it doesn't just happen at school. if you can, again, as a mother of two or three make friends with the kids and sometimes take two or three children for a walk with them after school, and two or three together, but on weekends there’s some kind of siamese together. this gives the child a feeling of comfort in the classroom and you, like mine, will be calmer, and again you will be less upset, you will send your child to school, as if in a safe, comfortable place or yourself, everything also matters. i always advise meeting haters. if it comes, sometimes it's at least surprising to get to know him personally, because the teachers in fact, she always treats me well, when i called, it was my parents who were not coming to visit me right now. not with pressure. just hello. i’m right there, here’s my phone number. if anything, keep in mind, there again there are some nuances, like a child in this regard, when i sort out the stories of, uh, the child’s discomfort at school and ask the parents everything. do you even know the teacher? eh, there

they often don’t know the subject teacher, in general, it seems, but such difficulties arise with the fact that we don’t even understand with whom the child communicates there, so the involvement e parent to school. let it be within reasonable limits, of course, to know at least what the director looks like. what the teacher looks like, and allows the parent to take the school more seriously, and a serious relationship between the parents and the school creates a serious relationship with the school in the child, so control reminds us that we return to the issue of control, control should be, well, correct , soft, friendly and i emphasize on the positive. . after all, the carrot still works better than the stick. well, i don’t know at 107. how are you? i somehow feel better andrey has built some kind of correct internal strategy, and more picture yes , the picture doesn’t look so catastrophic , non-ratizing friends. today we talked about school as stress for parents or children, and our today’s expert is a doctor

of sciences psychologist, a family psychologist. andrey sberovsky. he showed us from a different perspective a different strategy for relating to school and building relationships from school. this is a psychic podcast. and you can watch all podcasts on the first channel website 1tv.ru this podcast is a must read. i'm aglaya on batnikov. director, writer, today my guest is anastasia tolstaya, specialist on nabokov, literary critic, translator into english and writers, screenwriter andrei rubanov. we will discuss lolita nabokova, why is this innovative scandalous novel and why did he make nabokov a world star? nastya, please tell me, is nabokov an american

writer, as he called himself, or a russian writer? this is a difficult question and in fact at oxford, where i taught for a long time, he fell between these chairs because in the english department they said that it was american writers, in russian they said that it was an english writer. in general , they practically don’t teach it, because they don’t understand it, no matter how they can’t figure it out. yes, yes, but in fact he is both, because, of course, the first part of his life and career he a in russian and only after he moved to america he began to write, or rather, no, he is in europe wrote one novel called true life, but then all his remaining novels were written in english and, of course, they are very a lot, especially in lolita. i think we ’ll talk about this, but it’s connected specifically with america and american life. well, it all came together in him.

well, after the revolution, nabokov migrated to europe, then from europe he left for america, and when he wrote in russian, he had the pseudonym sirin, vladimir sirin, and so he was known among russian emigrants, and it turns out that he wanted to reach, probably, a different audience on the world market and began to write in english, relatively speaking, in order to establish himself as a world writer, and, so to speak, to step over we can expand our audience, so to speak. well, of course, yes, although, as i think, every writer strives for this, but not everyone succeeds, but if we talk about when he wrote in russian, and so he wrote under a pseudonym, and he chose a pseudonym , because, and he wanted to distinguish himself from his father, because everyone knew vladimir vladimirovich nabokov who ran the magazine. yes, he was the editor-in-chief of the magazine rudder, uh, and in which bryansk

immigrant married was published in berlin in the twenties, and he was very famous human. oh, and nabokov previously published his first stories in the rudder. and so that no one confuses them. he didn’t blame moscow, yes, yes. so he chose such a pseudonym for himself, and he actually became a very famous interesting fact. e. that name vladimir nabokov is precisely the literary name vladimir nabokov, he signs it for the first time with lolita and it’s interesting what you put in the preface. he himself writes that at first he wanted to uh, anonymously release this novel under uh, some pseudonym, but then he decided that it was the mask will harm him much more than it will benefit him and therefore he resolutely signs this novel with his real name. and after this it already becomes a global brand, namely vladimir nabokov and

all his old novels are also already published under his new name, correctly, that is, we can say that nabokov, uh, nabokov was born precisely on the novel. lolita of course, if it weren’t for you, there would be no nabokov as we understand him now and today. and this created him in the world. glory of course. it was scandalous the novel must be understood that in the fiftieth yes, such a topic, well, we all know there about lorenz’s diage and, as it were, and the trial that was over his book, that is, in those days, censorship was very strong, especially on the topic of sex, and therefore, as if, of course, he deliberately chose such a scandalous topic, and in order to attract attention he knew perfectly well what the reaction would be, he could not find the publishing house of the publishing house, which was published in paris in paris, which published pornographic erotic novels, but he went for it. it's also like

there was an important move, uh, but in fact, as always with any novel with any writer, andrei will confirm this, uh, some amount of luck, and and what the course of circumstances, that is, uh, in fact, if very famous english writer or gran, green and he noticed this novel published. in this strange review, i wrote a review and everything went on. here it goes, as it were. andrey , please tell me. you're the writer. how difficult is it for a writer to change a language? is it difficult or what? do you think we we know that nabokov spoke english perfectly and he had an english governess, he was from, uh, a rich family, not from a rich family, from a very rich family, both on his father’s side and on his mother’s side. he's english. i mastered it earlier than the russians. as far as i know, he was a pure bilingual, but i never forget his brilliant aphorism for

the writers of the motherland. this is his language. it is obvious that he was bilingual, as if in its pure form, that is, he thought in a mixture of two languages. i guess and he has a preface by clalite, which is more interesting than the roman himself and there he is very curiously describes how he translated this novel from english into russian and how literary russian differs from literary english, despite the fact that he had perfect command of both languages, but he writes there that about technology, fashion, and natural sciences and unnatural passions. it’s much more convenient to write in english than in russian, because all technical terminology, at least almost everything in the russian language came from english from german and other languages ​​and from latin derived, relatively speaking, but in russian has its advantages, of course. for me, he is a russian writer, but nastya claims that he certainly had

a marketi. there was a plan to write uh the novel lolita andrei admits andrei , and again nabokov compares the russian language and the english language uh with a young brilliant, but not very educated young man. uh, this is the russian language, but with a mature genius, uh, who has freedom of spirit. explain why this happens, that is, the russian language seems on the side to be younger and less experienced, because that the literary russian language appeared in our country only in the 18th century, so the russian language certainly began literary younger, or precisely the literary one in which we now write books. eh, it's starting. no, it doesn’t start with pushkin, it starts there with tretyakov’s there. with lomonosov, the middle is the end of the 18th century, and before him there were lomonosov among ostrovsky and sumarokov, who actually created it.

literary russian is not colloquial, but literary literary russian at this time, but english literature. swift was already there and all. there the parliament was already there, everything was there, but it was certainly much older. one reason, another reason, not unknowable. why is english such a language? and the russian is like this, it’s like nastya, tell me the sacrament, please. you, too, belin, what would you think, uh, a bellingua person, what difficulties does he have and what advantages does he have? the problem is that , as uh, the scientists who deal with this issue have already proven, and the languages ​​are always, as it were, at odds with each other each other. they uh, always try to get each other out, then it's not in your head. yes, that is, it’s not like, you know, perfectly, you know two languages, and you just click, of course, someone is always trying. this is one of

the languages ​​that tries to dominate, and especially if you are a writer or you are always immersed, as it were , in this language and you suddenly have to change it to another. it doesn’t matter that, of course, he grew up there , spoke english, and wrote, as it were, and so on, naturally, he read all english literature. but nabokov is very interesting, she said, in the preface to his uh, collections of essays, which are called strictly singing with strong as strong opinions, strong opinions, yes, and he wrote that he, but thinks like a genius, that he writes like great writers, that he speaks like a child and i believe that this is precisely due to his bilingualism. and even when he became super famous, he refused to give. uh, just oral interviews. they should always only in a letter only in a letter. he

always had these cards on which he wrote. novels and to them he wrote answers to all interviews, even if it was television interview, he had a delicious speech in advance, he felt helpless and had to prepare in writing. yes, and i think that this is precisely connected with bilingualism, because uh, it’s very difficult to find the right word at the right moment when you’re just saying, well , it’s kind of like for me now too, since i kind of, basically whitewashed -english, yes, sometimes it’s also difficult for me to find exactly the right word and nabokov when he began to translate lolita back into russian. it's like he writes that it is for him. it’s a personal tragedy that here he is, on the one hand it’s coquetry, because, of course, he knew the russian language well, but on the other hand, of course, he was separated from his homeland by time and distance russia well, there, for example, he calls jeans a cowboy pathology. and he knew something else about the roots, how to translate them, although

in russia they already knew what popcorn is. he somehow translates it strangely there too, but it’s very interesting that he uses some very unexpected word formations there. there we would say now there is a pestering dog. yes, he writes a pestering dog or multiple eyes. he is, as we would now say , multi-tasting, he writes multi-fatherhood there. yes, that is , relatively speaking, he, uh, yes, he feels the language, but somehow it’s completely different to use the same word in english. this is also like that. you could say it's a neologism. he didn’t invent it, but it’s like he introduced it into the world’s nature, yes, yes, and uh, this is a little bit here are the mistakes that happen because you uh confuse the language a little or sometimes grown up sometimes by accident, and they just enrich his literature. let your own style be born. so to speak. andrey please tell me, do you think that

this topic was chosen? yes, this is a vicious passion for minors, exploding oral foundations, and was planned to the letter in order to enter the world market so that everyone would recognize it, it seems to me that well, having read lolita now i understand that the novel is too complex for the american public, and the plot is very clear and simple. that is, at the plot level. he needed it too relatively speaking, to explode. yes , there is no morality in art; morality is a concept of classes for a serious artist. no, no morals. and no boundaries at all. it can’t be, he is absolutely free within his work, that’s another matter. i repeat again. did he want to blow it up? well, nastya says that he wanted to have a conscious marketing calculation to ensure that the american market is cultural and cultural and generally english-speaking. it’s impossible to get there, and in order to sound there you just need to blow up

everything is infinite around you, otherwise you are simply unnoticeable. i think that we can compare limonov, for example, and there is such an unexpected topic. yes, i wanted to blow it up too. and through what we, the russian writer likes to explode through eroticism. in our culture, we understand well what erotica is? there’s just this, uh, theory that was, as it were, put forward back in the sixties by the american professor lionel trilling, that nabokov simply writes in a long tradition, and in literature about love he calls it pashin love that is, this is passionate love, and he takes it away. eh, like sources. this is generally about medieval literature, the troubodours who sang such love, and it was always love outside of society. it was always love opposite to love in a marriage of some kind of normal relationship, and this was always tragic. it always ends tragically. perhaps love is impossible love, and this

is real passionate love, and here he traces, as it were, the evolution of this genre of the genre yes, through literature and in the 19th century the culmination of this is the adelter novel. a this is a flabey, this is tolstoy, and on karenina there was fries and so on. she says, by the way, in lolita it is mentioned, of course, of course, because nabokov deliberately plays with all these traditions. he knows perfectly well, as it were, what he fits into. well, of course, by the twentieth century, when he writes lolita and delta no longer shocks anyone. lolita is a modern anna karenina in what sense? it seems to me that there are a lot of parallels that can be drawn, but first of all, this is exactly this genre, but about forbidden love, it andrey's impossible love, what do you think, lolita is a romance, love or whatever it is? nastya said peshem. for me , walking, that is, the passion of love and love and peishan. lafa is three different concepts.

for me, as a person who thinks that he speaks literary russian , not only do you think that you speak the language of love, but in lolita it is impossible to have a full-fledged relationship between a 12-year-old girl and an adult man. this is, firstly, and secondly, from a moral point of view, this is a mesolation of pure mesosolation, because it us dollar from a tradesman. she is spiritually far from the main character; he describes her sideways, as a bright representative. that's exactly the bourgeois middle class. she loves cinema. not pathetic. this is not the only one. he has a heroine like that, he has a lot of them. look at the finale. he finds this dolores, er, lolita , who once ran away from him. yes, he finds her 3 years later, and she has already grown up. she's pregnant, she's in some dirty hole. eh , with some simple worker and he will see that

her beauty has faded. she stopped being a little girl, that is, she stopped correspond to his framework of, let's say , erotic interests and nevertheless. he writes that he loves her and wants her to be with him. that is, he is ready to cross these boundaries now. isn't this proof that he feels rather love at this moment when he says that he loves her? well, it’s like nostalgic feelings like those of a former comrade. well, how can she leave him in the final scene? it’s very touching that he comes to her. he returned to where he took her from to the world of shoemakers. he can be nostalgic for the times when he was obsessed. well again. he cannot enter into spiritual unity with her, because he never existed, let alone mania. well , listen to this hubert, he married her

mother, whom he hated. the fact is that i’m nabokov’s erotica. i still couldn't figure it out. what kind of women strove for vladimir vladimirovich nabokov, despite the fact that he had one wife. here he had some kind of mashenka described. so, tender in the first novel. he has a lot of women the bourgeois class is boring, and the bourgeois class is uninteresting and shallow. they go from novel to novel and his girls are the same, but for some reason he describes them. and there is a contrast between europe and old europe because in the depths he is french. yes, he is half french and half swiss, and that is why he is so pompous and, in general, this justifies the fact that he does not know some american cultural codes well, etc. this is lolita who loves. uh, movie stars, fashion magazines, and she can't jump higher than that, but still, she is a typical american woman. and if

there are some complex relations between europe and america in this novel. well, the novel is built on the opposition, of course, of these two worlds, as if old measures and new ones and this is also built on language, that is, this pompous language of gubert and slang, and lolita and she like her? oh, boy, she has three and a half words. yes, yes, although, how should we remember that we hear lolita only through the words of the governor. we never hear her voice. that is, as it were, here is her image, as a bourgeois, firstly, she 12 years old, yes, as if what we expect from a teenager, as if her interests are quite normal. in fact, nabokov considered it his love letter to america and he was very worried when he was accused of being a parody, that he was something of a snobbery, and so on, more than when he was accused of pornography. ah, that is, uh, for him it

was chanting, in fact. that's where she answered, almost all of the states of america and. uh, so that's all he wrote. he wrote down everything he heard. there are some words at gas stations and so on. it was very important for him to catch this one, and the middle one is the miran. yes, he describes the middle world of america that he wanted , this way of life, from which he constructed, yes, this and at the same time the novel really. it shows in some places how vulgar it is, like a surface , a surface, right? this podcast is a must read. i am aglaya, nabatnikova, director , writer, my guests are writers andrei rubanov and anastasia tolstaya, a specialist in nabokov, a literary critic, translator into english, we are discussing lolita a a novel that is made by a side world star. andrei, please tell me, i know what you love, and nabokov is

an example of his command of the russian language for you, but at the same time, he is very cold and it seems to me that he does not love his heroes. this doesn't turn you off in your best books. he loves, of course, his heroes, because this is not possible for him, and he loves hubert and understands him and this lolita, too, the us dollar. he, too, either loves her or is trying to love her, like he tried to love america because he went there he came because she gave him shelter, she gave him some kind of more or less prosperous life, which he was deprived of all his life until he was 40 years old; he was poor. and he glorified with you. she gave him a no. well, as if, again through europe, it was first published in france , then in england, and only then in what year fifty-nine, fifty-eight. well , as america was not banned, it was the puritan side, but it literally describes what those subscribers who subscribed to this

french publication for themselves. let's just say this is a dubious publishing house, and theirs is his let it pass at the border and only then, uh, the american publishers, having made sure that customs officers had let this book through from europe to america, only then did they disagree. e publish, but, nevertheless, prohibitions. it wasn't in america. it is nabokov himself who describes this, that there were bans in other countries, but specifically in america, the novel was not banned, strange as it may seem, although america is indeed a very british country, the funniest, that there is a contradiction in this too, as if within america and which i'm sure are like nabokov realized that in the most conservative states , where the most pronounced puritanism is. these are the same states. where? eh? quite the contrary, marriages between twelve-year-old girls were allowed there in the fifties . that is, when he writes this novel. are there states in america where this is? it's legal.

well, of course, he was a man of the european old culture, who came to the new culture and wanted to please those people, although he, as it were , and his shortcomings, are also not silent about them about these honeys, including this one, and about lack of taste, it is the so-called general public, because i think that lolita is about this, well, he laughs well. eh, lolita's passion for cinema is like searching for films and yet. he himself, in my opinion, would like to be sparkled, but he himself wanted to get into the cinema. and at least. when i read a novel , i see what is written. how cinematic i would say that the ending is written absolutely according to precepts? uh, the masters, uh, hollywood and uh, really, the film adaptation of lolita didn’t keep itself waiting, it kept itself waiting, which means in fifty-third year, he finishes lolita , the film comes out in sixty-two, 9 years. filming, and he was already over 60, at least

he wanted to get into the cinema all his life from his youth. he even filmed statistics to study brands. yeah, 10 marks. he worked part-time. this ended up in the novel mashenka, there is a cross-cutting theme , the sale of a person’s shadow, but uh, of course, he didn’t like cinema or couldn’t love it, because cinema, from his point of view, was too crude entertainment. again for the general public with andrey because it seems to me that he is not everyone, but he didn’t like it, but he didn’t even remember some of them just now, but there were some very popular american comedies that he really loved. he writes about this himself. and what’s more, he took a lot of techniques from movies, and even in the camera obscura there are scenes where he films from above, as if describing how cars are driving in an absolutely graphic frame. that is, this literature has never had a lot of