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movies have been filming for 5 years, and he was already over 60. although he wanted to get into the cinema all his life from his youth. he was filmed even as an extra in berlin uh-huh 10 marks. he worked out. it got into roman masha , there is a cross-cutting theme, the sale of the shadow of a person, but er, of course, he did not like cinema and could not love it, because cinema, from his point of view, was too rude entertainment. again, for the general public with andrei, because it seems to me that he is not everyone, but he did not like him. it’s even some i just don’t remember now, but there were some very popular american comedies, which he loved very much, he writes about it himself, and moreover, he took a lot of tricks from the cinema, and even in the camera obscura there is a scene where he shoots there from above, as if a frame, and describes how the car rides is absolutely cinematic in a graphical frame. that is, this literature never existed. he's very much mo . already here it is. all the ideas that seem to
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have come from nabokov's cinema are not only that he tried to write his books. really like they were scripts to be taken to get their attention. uh, and he had seven blon. and you promised all the time that they would film it, and now, maybe you can even tell more about it there. but before lolita, no matter how it was possible. well, there are two adaptations of lolita yes by adrian lyne who shot 9 1/2 weeks and also just high average adrenaline levels, which is like 9.5 days master of erotica master of erotica 9.5 weeks of his better, and here nabokov is just like such a high-class commercial lolita edena. here, well, well, but the kubrick did it. i think there are cool lolitas photographed a 14-year-old girl. s yulaevna. here are 16, 14 is the most accurate. 12 my googler said that
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it was impossible to use a 12-year-old actress in such a role, so they took a fourteen-year-old, she became a star and the film with a budget of 2 million collected nine. the super-profits of the bespechensov, in general, as i understand it, she later ensured a quiet life until the end of the years, because apparently he received royalty deductions. and we can say that nabokov sold his soul to the devil, that he took dr. faust, such a gloomy manic criminal passion, led her into culture. that is, it seems to me that lolita and not all of this is copied by a lot of later e works, and in general, we can say that he generally blew up culture with this plot, when you do something, write a book or a film or a picture or a song, compose or dancing, and you're still selling your soul. you are giving it away.
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in exchange for what you do, did you sell it or to someone else, i don’t know, but it’s about exchanging your personality for something that enters your soul. well, of course it would be devilish. what is the devil here, as it were for a man whose father was killed, you know , who fled the country with his parents, it seems that this is the motherland, as he said, i took russia to the sole of my boots. he didn't lose. it seems that he does not agree with this statement. eh, here, but just at the end of my life i said that i am an american writer of russian origin who lives in switzerland and wrote my novels in germany , but i don’t remember, he openly called himself a cosmopolitan or there is such a word there , as it were, than term it was not. i'm telling you, movable some words arise in his years there was no word movie star, but he calls the film my actress. well, that's great, but the fact is that he just loved words very much.
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actually. he wrote all his he was in cambridge, when he was a student there, he happened to be at the fair at the sale. on some i found a four-volume dictionary, he wrote all his novels with, uh, these houses on the table. i mean, he is all the time. uh, i chose words, and then i steal words from her from nabokov, as if they were writers, this is normal. i noticed you, well, i'm a wife andrew i carefully read his books, and there are. when i read the letters, i see directly the words that andrei fell in love with, for example, a drug, when talking about medicines. well, he himself i know that he has a very good one, again, in my opinion, in gift. he says, i sit down or in other shores. i will read five pages of pushkin's prose the captain's daughter or belkin's tales, a sample of russian literature, and after that i sit down to write my own. here is pushkin, you still cannot meteorize pushkin. yes,
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i did cats, so here, that is, i have him a lot of all kinds of advice to read, in fact, she was also written, but it’s worth reading this year 150 years from the moment tolstoy began writing. well, knees, but uh , there are a lot of funny ones. e. so start this novel. uh, this novel was originally called well done woman. yes, yes, and er, in fact, the impetus to write this novel was belkin's tale, he had not finished reading. there is an unfinished story. pushkin and a. tolstoy read that pushkin starts in the middle of the action. eh, as if the story is that he is not just there somehow describes something there, but it's just action and fat right away. this is how you should write. and this was, as it were , an impetus to start it knees. naturally. it then turned out to be something completely different. ono, by the way, bowed before the fat one. nabokov i want to say that when
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i first read lolita i was 15 years old and i had a completely different perception than today, when i read this novel , i re-read it, because now i am already the mother of a teenage girl. eh, here's our daughter's sendrim. this is how i take it completely different. that is, when i was trace it seemed to me that firstly, uh, if we count the lolita of the chess game played by nabokov as a counter. yes, that is , the reader is forced to play this game, yes, and either follow the governor and believe him or not, yes, because the governor is charming in his own way. yes, he looks handsome, he knows languages, he has great taste. and in general, he takes care of neutel in his own way. he seduces not only lolita but also to count. yes and so, you can say that this party me 15-year-old and nabokov won. well, in general, by a huge
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margin, because i liked the province. you thought it was a great life. they travel. she drinks coke, he buys her new clothes. and she doesn't have to go to school. it's all so great. and it's so mysterious and he's so handsome. he is so in general, and one might even say, not the first. he seduced her. yes, that is, in the same place in fact, it turns out that she was not even different. but now, when i read, i understand that the horror is not even that e humbert raised a girl, but the horror is that he used her and put her in this prison, that is, he imposed a certain life on her, whose life she was not supposed to live, and uh. she was his slave, he did not let her out, and in general, he used her and even all these trips, all these frozen cinemas. there are new clothes. it was all a kind of entourage in order to keep this girl captive and use her, and now i understand that this is, well, this is the destroyed psyche of this girl. that is , he is just a monster that devoured the life
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of a young girl and nothing beautiful would this is not. this is exclusively a tragedy of darkness, horror and some kind of demonic nature. i don’t know, here, maybe in a person, yes , demonic, maybe it’s absolutely divine. well, here is the triumph of demonic nature. and now i perceive it. horror, so now you have your chess game with sideways 1:11. he is already with me as the mother of a teenage girl, he cannot win against me. and you will understand this too, when kitty grows up, probably, yes, yes, that's what you were telling me about, that he is some interesting educated handsome in appearance. i did not consider all this with him there you are, maybe because i'm a boy. that's why describes when all the women fell in love with him adult female star? yes, but you married a woman
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you hated. to get access to the child, you made, well, an act. well, i’ll say it so ugly, moreover, he wants to continue he wants to have children with lolita, so that later with his children and then with mothers. yes, wait for yourself little lolitas and use let's say so, in addition, i made an important remark. he didn't ruin the tried. she then repeat returned to the same place where he took it, here in her own world. lolita remains vital when she finds her, hunbertana in poverty but happy marriage and content with her life. that is, maybe, indeed, this question has destroyed or not destroyed the personality, but it seems to me that it is impossible not to destroy after so many years of, uh, bullying. unfortunately, as we know lolita cums. poor she dies childbirth,
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yes, yes. well, it's like a part of the chess game here that not everyone who reads this novel the first time understands that because it there are again prefaces on the first pages. we are told that both she and her daughter died in nature. but this is, as it were, this is the uh culmination of the uh tradition. pashin love yes, everyone must end badly, but karenina must throw herself under the belt. uh, here too, as if everyone should end their life unsuccessfully, but still pay attention. and why doesn't he make this girl interesting deep. that 's why nabokov, because it doesn't matter to a man whether an interesting woman or a deep one, she accepts her, how do you know so, on in fact, when the governor describes, what is a nymphet? he says it's an elusive quality that not every girl has. there, 12 years old suits him, and she doesn’t even have to be pretty or some kind of long you are something special. this is what is so elusive, which
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only an amateur sees is uninteresting. this is the moment of transformation, if you really know how to catch it, this is the moment of transformation. well, it's probably like something like this, when a caterpillar turns into a grandmother, but some moment of transformation, when really caterpillar starts. that's just the very beginning. that's about butterflies, too. well, i don't know if it will be interesting or not multiple butterflies, but he believed that a butterfly is an example of beauty, and which is not for what is not needed. as in the sense of beauty itself. what are these butterflies art for? actually. here, yes, for him, this at the base, the positing power for him was art, because he was that it should exist in itself, not for what, but simply, as it were, for itself. yes, well , this is a position and therefore, as it were, this is the answer to your question please. lyon soul. well, as it were
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with all that we have said, there are some proimercheskie. we are interested, he did not know whether it would work or not work for him, as for a true artist, the most important thing was, as it were, a work of art, and yet. i think that lolita can be called a work, of course, of course, she turns the soul upside down for you. i didn't read it once. it seemed to me sugary and that the translation although nabokov himself did the translation, but the translation into russian it is much weaker than uh. i can not read in english. yes, that is a lot of illusion, literacy, there, uh, actually. uh, the russian novel is a lot more sexually explicit revelation than uh, the english one and there are a lot of nuances in general, not only that he didn't know how to translate jeans there, but uh, it's not the same novel, although the translator, as if the author herself guys. thank you very much for the conversation. thank you for coming.
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this was a must-read podcast. my guest was anastasia , a literary critic, a translator of nabokov, a specialist in nabokov a, and andrey rubanov, a writer screenwriter we discussed lolita nabokova hello this podcast is witty and with you. i am svetlana dragan and we will continue to talk about long-term forecasts. when i was preparing this program, i understood that it was impossible to unify information for everyone. and so everyone wants to do something useful. well , after all, we will now talk about the main trends that await us. and of course, there will be people who will be
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literally at the forefront of these changes , a lot will depend on them, but nevertheless , everything that i will say will probably hurt everyone, albeit not to the extent that those people about whom i mentioned, but nonetheless . i believe you are all experiencing strange sensations right now. it's like when you are in the same fairway, it seems to you that you may have escaped beyond it, that something is about to happen and some very important bright eventfulness will begin, yes, there will be tension, but it reminds me more tension in the aquarium, when from one plant to another from one algae to another fish swim. and in general, further aquariums, they do not go and for now, no matter how tense the situation is, it may well be tense, but all this time in order to correct some of your actions , return to some past state of events, and rebuild relations
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to reconsider something again take a look on it from a different point of view. that is, this time is not useless. and when the planet does this, and it seems to us that we are slowing down, and it is pointless to get angry at this, and this really has its own benefits. why is this happening? and, because sometimes, when events are preparing some global scene. when something very serious needs to be restructured, a certain cumulative effect must occur, and everyone, trying to cope with this cycle of events that seemed to be just moving and moving in one circle, and it’s impossible to break out of it. i think that at this moment it is better for yourself to choose some kind of tactic of reassessing the values that have been all this time. after all, this is exactly what the planets need, which will lead us all to mid-october. under the slogan, well, what are we changing and that's when from
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of us all will be required of many, at least of us some decisions will be required , some events that can happen only after the accumulation of experience. this summer and even slightly autumn, so that, uh, a qualitative transition has already happened in a really serious way. therefore , the time that seems to us useless is not useless at all. and it just makes it possible to really fix something and gain experience, and there are a lot of people who just, and maybe will. well, let's say you are on the stage changes in your life are connected with society. why? i say this, because the events that will take place in the fall, namely, october 14th. plus or minus. they are just connected with the issues of social restructuring of restructuring in the collectives of restructuring. and in an attempt to change something, uh in
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the environment, but in relations, when we understand that injustice u rules the show, when uh some legislative formats we are not satisfied when there are legal unresolved processes and so on, so all these things, if you are allowed to be in the context of these processes. now it's probably worth a-a think about how to get out of position. and how now is it very correct to build this process so that by october we come up with some kind of unambiguous decision. and if you are a little familiar with astrology, those people who were born on october 14, namely, they will be at the forefront. most of all, uh, they are related to the social environment , to some issues of a public nature , to relationships with communities. e
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partnerships of this level. uh high, maybe business, maybe somewhere in other areas, uh life, but still less so, these are people who forever rely on the issues of such a social political internal political format of some kind . what happens in the environment that just governs the processes of building relationships, legal structures, and so on. and i understand that these people are now looking for solutions to global solutions. how to change the situation? how to fix it? how create the most comfortable environment in which you can move, which you can offer some projects, some new forms, well, maybe uniting alliances that allows you to solve these internal problems and it is clear that
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these people, of course, are among other partners , who are also to them, but promise, uh, various support. and this is differentiation, selectivity, whom to choose with whom to be, how to implement this project, and projects, as if already waiting for their implementation, as if there is already a readiness for their implementation, as as if the environment itself is already like this. hmm, the time is such. the era is such, which requires such changes. and here. probably with all the zeal, maybe it's worth a little slow down to look. uh, what's really relevant in these changes, what's not. after all, sometimes it 's not even about people, not about who you are going to do this project with, but about how you imagine these structures. how do you imagine these rules by which people should live, how do you imagine this construction? yes, this is the spirit
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of justice. he is very tall now. degree of tension, but nevertheless , the time is not yet mature for resolving these issues, and this must be treated with understanding and , perhaps, very many people can be listened to and understood. and how , in general, and what are people ready for? the fact is that this period of global change, both in a personal and in a public format , is public formats. here it will be very pronounced. it, of course, also applies to people born to a greater extent. there the tenth fifteenth of april and october. may people born in january in july be affected. here are the same dates that i indicated, but here is a slightly different form of eventfulness. here people seem to be walking during a storm. they will have to overcome it. it is not they who develop this process, they are
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its adherents. probably they are its executors. it will not be very easy for them. but those people who were born approximately, even i will take away from the ninth, probably to october 15-16 april. this is a very, very important period for them. some of them are those who are october, they are still aimed at some kind of social activity, and regardless of of this, they depend on what is happening around them as uh people with whom they are trying to make a future now u build their own perspectives, as they see them and these people who are also counted on, born in october , depend on as their potential partner line-up, and now it's distributed, because this distribution will not be as it seems, in the summer and early autumn. she will change a lot and make bets and take some initial steps. such very
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serious documentaries are a little bit, probably, a little early, but as for the april people. well, the ones i mentioned are people. well, uh, such a more independent. yes, they are focused on the social environment, they are focused on the environment, but for them it is very important their personal initiative, their will, how they present themselves as their projection in this new world. for them, this time will also be very, very important, because these two groups of people are very similar, they are at opposite ends of time, but the situation is very similar, only for them oktyabrsky is more integrated social environment, and for april these are more internal such individual processes. these people are very sincere and they always go
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from their insides and often, if they are ready, if there is this inner feeling that they know where to go. they attract other people and go along with them. and for this they create not only communities. how much search for this communication is correct. to realize some kind of deeply personal plan. this does not mean that this is a selfish plan. it's just another point of view ah. they are more focus on their own internal mission to transfer some of their knowledge, may be in their capabilities. e apply this knowledge in modern times. yes, i am now talking about such more social processes, but we all feel it, of course. eh, there are people who are not connected with such directly social and social processes and for them. it's kind of a personal story, but usually it's
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still a matter of how you get along with the environment. how interesting are you with him? can you even fit into it all, can you do you count on some even working pleasant story when you understand that you are all together with the team and you are doing a common thing. this is a question of a common cause - this is the most unsteady environment now, so it may seem to many that somehow it doesn’t work out. it’s not possible to be friends, you don’t understand each other, as if the wrong people, as if they were the same, maybe you are not like that. no. just give each other a chance to feel mutual support, whether you go in the same direction or not, it doesn't matter, but this is mutual support. this is the quality that and it will be required, which will make you a leader, but a little later. this is a witty podcast with you. i'm svetlana dragan and we continue our conversation about long-term
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trends. and now, when the planets are preparing some very important scenario, and we will start it in the fall. and we feel ourselves. this is to the fullest. we will feel it on ourselves, as some kind of pressure, as some kind of destructive, maybe to some extent history that will seem to us such that it seems like those people with whom we were friends were relying on them together. it could be both personally and, again, relationships, but they are losing their relevance, we are losing the ability to understand each other. and this moment of the planet is being prepared for a long time, when the astrologer looks at the chart, it’s not that some fragmented parts of something will be good tomorrow, the day after tomorrow it will be better, and then there will be some kind of stress. no, this is a general outline that moves us to the same such turn in nam's life , and this turn is accumulating very slowly. and you must understand what
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it is all about and you must feel. it and as soon as you start to feel it. you are leaving this game. you are not in a state of such matrix directive obligations. and you begin to look from the outside. and this question, uh, to be able to look from the outside, this is a very important task. and when october comes and it will probably not be easy for many, and you will see it. and you may have to help them, even if they are not your people. this is not your comfortable environment, however. and this is a test for your humanity for your antigoism. and all this is not accidental. the fact is that after october, as if a whole new scenario is unfolding a new road the road to the fact that these changes they become so necessary so sharp at first sight. it can be quite such a difficult situation, but if it is created, then this
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is not in order to sprinkle ashes on your head, but in order to move forward and in order to understand that the time has come for change. yes, all these people, about whom we said, they are preparing these changes. they themselves are not yet ready. and that's when october happens when they suddenly understand. how should you move? what happened, how relations between people were distributed and how a certain hierarchical ladder was built in which they live, work, promote some of their own interests, and i think these interests. they will be like never before. e has to do with mutual comfort, that's all. this leads to the fact that spring is 24 years old. here she will reveal all these cards. that's how she 'll help. all those who accumulated this experience were disappointed. and as if he made unnecessary movements, as if he spent so much
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work, and it seemed to be meaningless turns out it doesn't make sense. this is preparation. here's to that reality and to those topics and to those really in demand, who and which will arise precisely after april. yes, there will be another march 25, which will be opened by many. and things that suddenly, but tell these people. you have not worked in vain, here and now you are finally able to apply your talents and abilities, and a special question , of course, will be asked to those who were born, just around 9 a.m. on the tenth of the eleventh of the twelfth so about april. here's to them this question will be sacramental, of course, these people need to understand already now that some kind of personnel training is going on, and in april. they need to be prepared for the fact that they are the work that is being carried out by the one that is
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now invisible. it will be very important and will dictate those forms of relations, all forms of not only business, but even legal issues that will then be adopted and will develop, and then, uh, there will be a time when they will say, yes, this is exactly what we lack now . yes, we need to move very fast. and now, since this will literally be a transition almost into a new era, by the way, i will say that for russia this will be a moment, just hmm, the growth of the starting point for this. and moving forward, when for many talents the ability to desire the project, which at first seemed somehow not very viable. they will just demand to move forward, and masha , such leaders in october, they are, to a greater extent, ready to promote this form of a new relationship at all levels. it will affect
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it is, of course, also a private individual level. when it will be easier to communicate, when the priority is mutual understanding, it may become much more serious than some questions of emotion. and here is what seemed to us, before it was important and we spent a lot of effort on it, we will understand that it is not. now is not the time for selfishness. and the time to be together and those couples that will be formed at this time and those relationships that will survive and finally. here e some not only there is a legal status, although not without it, but this status is really some kind of compatibility then it will already be a very powerful organism that is ready to move on, by the way, uh, i even think that uh, this time is literally here, from now until next spring. it's a personal time to test
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are you really the right fit are you really meant to be together? and besides the fact that you have some kind of attraction, you can look in one direction, you can walk together hand in hand and maybe, but i would still advise you to check your relationship until spring to understand. and this is how you really want to be together you are capable of it. here, in fact, these moments, they will become key. and if october this time can be some more dramatic, which is required. just change. it requires a reformat, then april is the time that will really define many things and tell you. yes, you either passed the test of strength in this relationship, or you suddenly developed a new relationship and they are the most relevant for you today,
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so we are not in a hurry trying to do everything that needs to be done everything that needs to be completed help to look at something closer and understand that people who uh live one day, they may simply be unaware that current events are just going in circles. so, i wish everyone patience, understanding that the question of such a natural relationship will become the most demanded literally in the near future. and if you feel in the spring of the twenty-fourth that this is what you need. these are the people you need, then move forward. and those who apply this information in a business sense, especially in some public need to understand that public information will begin to act and be born. so in a good way, if you say, they really, there will only begin to exist in the form in which
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they should be somewhere in the spring, so the idea cannot be left. it is necessary to move in the context of this idea, but the composition and the entire structure and the community that is being organized, they will already adjust to this idea. the main thing is to keep it to yourself. this is a witty podcast with you. i am svetlana dragan and i continue talking about different types of astrology. well, now we let's talk about another section of astrology called harary astrology, in general, the word, harar astrology is on everyone's lips and very many. well, they vulgarly suggest that this is such a very easy tool that is easy to use, and it will tell you everything, but this is one of the most difficult methods, which, despite all its popularity and an attempt to use it, does not always make it possible, but really see the real perspective not because
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it does not work, but because they need to be used very carefully and very professionally, what is horary astrology, hourly. the so-called astrology uses no natal chart no birth data. and the time of asking a question, that is, when a question suddenly arises or someone called you or something happened? you keep track of the time. when a situation arises that raises this question in you, and a map is built on this question almost like a natal one, i will immediately say that this map is very tricky. the fact is that it has such indicators, for example, you called , there is a person and asked you about something, when you build this map, you will see if this person is telling the truth, is this question really relevant, maybe he knows the answer to it and is trying to double-check you. all these answers are in this card.
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that is, it is practically an opportunity to interpret the card in a completely different way, this card can answer, in principle, but many questions up to the fact that you have lost, say points do not know where they are. she will tell you, of course, she won’t write to you, the glasses are in the nightstand, but a description of where it is the place, how it is located, what stands close there, all this can be seen, why am i talking about it like that. uh, with special attention, let's say, at one time in 2000, this service was just engaged in horary astrology. what it is? that is, a person could call and ask any question, a map was built in which there was an answer to this question and it was possible to orient. well, for example, you could ask, i want to buy such and such an apartment. do you think this is a good idea, this is really such an apartment. this is what i'm waiting.
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