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it should be given equally, as mother’s love remained. why do you understand this? you ildar will announce in vienna and he’s having dinner uh in york, and he’s singing in the office, and there’s let ’s let this one go, please ask him, i ’m uh, i’m happy about his success. he is also a director. he also imagines and makes productions of his own, and the moment comes, if this is the ussr, no one cares about you. well, my theme is the ussr, ooh, i’ll tell you next, it was supposed to be said that way. who are you? well, i'm a singer. what is your profession? yes? yes, yes, yes, in the evenings during the day, as you know? story. what is it, you know, yes , what is it? well, come on. so, they tell him,
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who are you? well, i'm a composer, well, okay, if you don't want to say nothing. so i need to tell you that at some point there must come when you tell yourself. i am a musician , meaning i will not earn my living as a mechanic or a machinist. although i dreamed of fraud. well, not a driver, but to be the driver of a big ah, some kind of truck do you know anything like this, such a car that shines, it says, you’re driving around russia and eating. songs. that's what i dreamed. but, and this is what i dreamed about in childhood, when i was four, three or four years old, and you drank in the children’s choir while you were still at school, with a voice that didn’t break, of course, with ears and a voice. it was a connection, of course. well, yes, that is, i had it and i had a choir from salfeggio. i had
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both musical literature and piano. i learned to play. somehow the night didn’t go at the same time, i was a bit bored. well yes i had. energy that i was bored of sitting and unlearning. eh, different eds of czerny and bach in general, i gave up this business. so i went to high school. thus, i had more time, and i devoted it. eh, this is a time for friends, sports and other various interesting things, of course. do you remember our conversation with dima hvorostovsky? well, i tell him upper and maybe i can and sang on it all day, i tried and sang where did you get this opera from? suddenly it appeared because you are telling. and also sports. yes, it smelled, uh, the band and nirvana group black shapass, what do we need this little guy igor? what is prince igor and who is this guy, do you understand? it is truth too. apparently i didn’t
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see this prospect as something i didn’t intend to do at all. well, to be an opera singer. okay, i came to study. to hmm then go to the philharmonic, and to sing songs i don’t know magomayev from the repertoire. yes, there’s joseph kobzon. that’s something soviet , that’s ibragimov, so i don’t know how the nation loved him and the tatar ones, they thought that i would be at the mariinsky theater, especially caressed or metropolitan, i never thought. how did your mother let you go? well, how can you not let go, if a person has a son, especially since his son is promising and everyone says that he might be your teacher. and what exactly did you remember today with such gratitude, meant working not only with you, but also with your mother , too, maybe she told her, listen, he seems to be a genius, well, i don’t think she
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said that he was a genius, but because we never know when all this may end, the voice is such a fragile apparatus that many of my colleagues have. how much how much have i seen such singers who started with me and then stopped? this is big, it’s not just singing. you left the sang. this is even more work. mental. here you need to be healthy, namely mentally healthy. that is, you go out and there are 3-4 thousand people in front of you, right? the orchestra is behind the choir, well , everyone is looking at you and everyone is expecting from you. and this always needs to be nourished. it’s always necessary to give away all the accumulated energy, that ’s the point of giving, that’s why it’s necessary, that’s why you need to take it to someone, that’s why you need to sometimes to rest. listen, we force you with your expensive apparatus here,
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you understand? then, it would be better if we ask you to give us the opportunity to enjoy the nuances. here's something else. you're worth your weight in gold. me heart last ok
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for love
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all your love very much. nice and soon
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i would of course wish you to achieve something else. although it does, well, what else is some such role, but which one you
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dreamed of. and i haven’t yet. or maybe it hasn't even been written yet. maybe there is no limit to perfection, we will improve. eat there is still a lot to work on. the main thing is for the soul to sing, and when the soul sings. well, god forbid, what is your poet's soul? i know that your wife of incredible beauty will have the same happy face in the future as she always has when we see each other at various family events, as if she will have new creative successes. thanks a lot. all the best, dear friends. thank you for your attention until next time. hello, this is the podcast schrödinger's cat and i am its leading editor-in-chief of the popular science magazine schrödinger's code grigory tarasevich and my assistant bari the cat
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who will help me broadcast and talk with our wonderful guest. we have mikhail guryevich in our studio today. plotov candidate of medical sciences, somnologist , employee of sechenov university. well , in general, a person who knows a lot about sleep , mikhail yuryevich but in general, as far as it is clear what a dream is and what it is for, but we dive deeper. they're all fucking in the study with this, of course. we understand more and more how difficult this condition is. that is, now we a have a good idea of ​​how it happens, for example, the transmission of information during sleep versus wakefulness. we have a good idea of ​​which areas of the brain work. in a dream, but actively, and which, on the contrary, work much less intensively compared to wakefulness, but to reach such a degree
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of understanding that you can induce sleep at will, for example, or uh, at will there with the help of some technical devices, and model the processes that occur in a dream, science has not yet reached this, although the main thing. strictly speaking, the result of this work should be precisely the practical application that we have enabled the gadget. yes, the person immediately fell asleep superbly, slept well and woke up at the next click of this gadget, preferably slept, not even 8 hours of dinner, but three hours and vigorously went to work and solved some problems while still sleeping, science. you understand why we sleep, because i have seen different hypotheses. there is a hypothesis that in order for the brain to process the format it needs something just rest, there is a hypothesis of our scientist ivan peredov that the brain processes information there from the stomach to the intestines. smoking and other organs why do we sleep? well, such a philosophical question. e s from the category. why do we live? yes, there are different states, so
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to speak, of being. yes, here is one state, the most famous state of being awake from being awake. we are taking action. this is how we perform such and such functions. but we still don’t know why we live. well, at least we know that when you are awake , nothing should be performed, but it is the same in a dream, that is, in a dream, some functions are also performed. and what kind, for example, and rest, and rest is physical rest of the body, yes is performed, but also in cheerfulness we can lie down and lie down. although in a dream. we will better restore some kind of deeper generalization of the information that we received while awake in a dream and sorting it out. e memory. yes, it has also been proven that this happens better in a dream than in wakefulness. not for god's sake. this happens to me too. here are the energy savings. yes, this is also a function. and there are quite a lot of such functions, but still the most important one is probably the theory that explains such a mandatory state of sleep
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is informational. it is assumed that this is a state of disconnection from the outside world. eh, it is programmed this way so that the flows of information are slightly redistributed, the unnecessary ones are removed and stored in the appropriate areas of the brain, so that the next day you will feel more energetic for the next period. we were again able to obtain new information that was unnecessary for a person. an hour, two or three is useful. sleeping in on weekends is a classic way to relax. i know from myself that i slept worse until 11:00 on saturday, broken and in a bad mood. it’s better to get up on saturday at eight o’clock, to do something good, what science says is it beneficial to sleep a little more, physiologists. um, experiments have shown that extra sleep. ah, it helps a healthy person, in principle, in life. this is known as the so-called powernap effect, the effect
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of energy overload, when a person who seems to have slept normally at night after dinner can sleep a few more tens of minutes 10 20 30 and i feel a surge of strength and he's really improving. uh, performance. this has been proven by serious experiments in relation to sports performance. extra sleep. by the way, how much is an extra half hour or an extra 3 hours? now this is the result of the settlement agreement. sleep experts say that a healthy adult needs between 7 and 9 hours of sleep. somewhere in this interval is the individual norm for almost all people, because, most likely, there is genetic diversity , some require 7 hours of sleep , some require 7 hours of sleep. 7.5 for someone 8.2 hours oh well the majority of the majority fit into this norm and, accordingly, if a person
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exceeds this amount of sleep, then nothing terrible will most likely happen and he will most likely benefit from it. why the harm do you yourself love on weekends, when you have the opportunity to sleep an extra hour or two or three? and i would, yes, i would like to receive such behavioral sleep, but in most cases, i do not allow myself to completely relax. yes , this is also a problem for many actively working people. i think that’s when you have all the possibilities, and you can’t sleep. yes, because already a person is in this active mode all the time in denmark and in order to truly relax you need to, well, make an effort on yourself for a long time. well, anyway, returning to the original. what is sleep, some special state? yes, that means he is especially uh. i am not even a special state of the nervous system, because at this time the nervous system works differently and differently. as a matter of fact, the body also works, many
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processes are slowed down a little. moreover, some are not just slowed down, but in a completely different way are being carried out. well, hmmm what example can be given in relation to the nervous system , very indicative from my point of view is the approximate electrical activity of the brain. so, uh, when during the daytime the electroencephalogram of the brain activity is recorded in the waking brain, there are such waves that occur quite often - the alpha rhythm, called in a dream, we see completely different waves, they are slow and very high-amplitude. these are very regular ones. if we doctors see these waves while awake. this is absolutely not normal. this means the person is in a coma or has some kind of severe damage in this area of ​​the brain, that is, this cannot happen while awake, but in a dream this is excellent. if we see the same huge waves , it means that it is sleeping very deeply, it means that it is very good now. one example, another example is also textbook, as they say in
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relation to the body. here is mm growth hormone with mototropic hormone. eh, it is almost completely produced. e in a state of sleep, that is, when they say that children grow up in their sleep. yes indeed, children grow in their sleep, because 70% of all daily production of growth hormone is released, and in the unified pulse at the beginning of deep sleep, when we go through the first period of deep sleep, at this time it is reset. you can convince children to go to bed early by saying that you will sleep well and grow taller and bigger. it’s unlikely that this will convince them, to be honest. is it even possible to use the state of sleep, as you use for the needs of learning development, at the beginning of the 20th century, in my opinion, there was a popular idea that you could learn languages ​​in your sleep, but a little later tape recorders near sleeping people, does this even work so that this time is not wasted , it is not clear. what we are doing, of course,
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convinced by the waves there. is there anything else that’s offensive a third of the time, what can you do study there and generate electricity for your brain? perhaps also in a dream? yes, well, that’s what it was called about hypnopedia. this is the uh direction of sleep learning. eh already. eh, in the last century. there, in the seventies , a firm conclusion was made that there was nothing new in the dream. it is impossible to learn, because the state of sleep requires switching off the nervous systems from external impulses. that is, new information does not pass through this block , yes, and when we listen to the recorder, for example, there is a recording of english lessons there , simply. this information will not pass further this is before the era of the brain. now a new trend has appeared - this is the next, as it were, revolution. here is the same direction. it turned out that yes, you can’t learn anything new in a dream, but you can consolidate
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the knowledge you’ve already acquired. in a dream it is possible, that is, if there are special techniques that allow you to strengthen this process of memory consolidation, that is , remembering what we should have known about the method. but this block of external signals during sleep, it is not absolute and any mother who raised a baby. yes, they remember how she woke up to even the most insignificant changes in the rhythm of his breathing. yes , you can still configure your nervous system so that these stimuli partially pass through this filter and there are some modalities. these are the external stimuli that generally pass during sleep, even so to speak, without being filtered, it’s the smells, that is, here. and we sense smells just as well as when we are awake. well , it was probably important for the animal to sense danger. well, another predator approached. eh, i woke up immediately and scientists
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used this property. uh, so they took pictures of brain activity during sleep and they tested, uh, the next level idea about learning that there is an active process of remembering in the sleep state. that is, uh, the state knows it's not just the absence of new information that could displace the previous one, if it came to since it does not displace, then the previous information. remembering this process better is called interference, and it is well known. being awake never interferes with anything. that’s what’s standing there next to us, muttering something else. and we can't concentrate. now, and now it turns out that in a dream, a more active process is taking place. eh, so to speak, this processing of information according to modern ideas. several times during sleep, this information comes out, as if from our memory, and appears to our inner sight. we sort of throw it around, and then it returns back to the memory bins, that
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is, it is pumped several times. like this in one other direction from well, if you simplify, uh, the cortical representation of the hippocampus area, this is the main memory center and then again from the hippocampus area. again. she takes him to the cortical representation and this process. eh, it can be done, it turns out to be more effective, indeed medications have been selected that can enhance this process of memory consolidation, and more can be done another such method is to just give this olfactory stimulus at a time when this consolidation, according to scientists , occurs in a dream. that is, if this is an experiment, which was confirmed, so to speak, if during the memorization of some material by a person. ah, he feels a certain smell, well, this material is also already associated with this smell. yes, then the person falls asleep. here the experimenter
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gives it to him again. the same smell and this smell. uh, through here's an additional association. it seems to enhance these processes consolidation. this explains the popular hypothesis: if you put the textbook on the bed and go to sleep, knowledge will flow over, but the textbook smells of something else like paint. i took the textbook and read the smell, well, there are strong smells of textbooks. i got it somewhere. i fell asleep next to my textbook, the smell continues to stimulate me. no, it hasn’t been working for a long time. they probably studied and it seems to me that for a modern young man the smell of coffee will be more like that. eh, so to speak, an associated stimulus with learning. than the smell. eh, there’s a textbook, i’m the presenter, grigory. container and my assistant, the cat bari, and our guest today is mikhail plutov, a somnologist, dreams there are a lot of legends, usually
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untrue, that great scientists made great discoveries in their dreams. well, there are definitely no mendeleevs. he was, in his daughter's description , half asleep when he finally formulated it. uh, periodic law. in general , she might dream of something useful. well, there are , uh, depressing statistics that suggest that most discoveries were still made by the state of hydrogen creating sleep, that is, it’s especially not worth it, so to speak. exaggerate, and the role of creative dreams. really though. and hmm, such observations impressed me more. the story of the german physicist hmm friedrich august kekul, who discovered the formula for benzene in a dream. moreover , this is well documented. this is a memory that's when he was working on this form to understand how atoms behave. well, it was impossible to imagine. yes, that really hmm , the chemical structure of all thoughts can be closed in
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such a linear paradigm, yes and uh, and no one could understand how how this substance behaves and apparently. well, uh, as a result of these long-term waking thoughts, yes, which led to nothing, yes, uh, turning into a state. i see, in a state in which uh, hmm, the brain works differently. here. e, for example, a feature of dreams is the absence of criticism. yes, that is, we are not surprised. if in a dream we meet someone there whom we have not seen for a long time , we find ourselves in some place that we have probably been to or seen somewhere only in a cinema. yes, and this does not surprise us, because at this time that part is really brain, which is responsible for a critical attitude to reality. it's turned off. she sleeps this frontal lobe of the brain. basically a person is in a dream. he is like a drunk. yes, in a state of intoxication. he also says so. e is also not critical. this allows a creative
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person to open up, and to stop believing that the formula for benzene can only be lenin, and then he dreamed of a snake biting its tail. yes, he shouted, probably in a dream eureka yes, and so to speak, he opened indeed this ring formula. gold that no one could imagine in the world before . why do some people have colored prices , some have black and white prices, some with more active action, in general the plots of dreams. where do they come from? well, from a scientific point of view , there is such a popular expression. as a matter of fact, his mikhalych sechenov , our outstanding scientist, said that a dream is an unprecedented combination of experienced impressions. in fact, there is nothing completely new that a person has not encountered or is not aware of. heard in a dream cannot appear, because the fabric of a dream is composed of memories only from what has already been recorded, and in the cerebral cortex. well, another thing is that these memories can be very
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bizarrely combined with each other, but more often than not, i also like to repeat this quote, which is that the first researchers of dreams. they wrote down that our and our dreams are something simple. and they don’t give us much of a reason to think about them, that is, for the most part. dream occurrences are a reflection of mental activity, which when preceded sleep. he’s just chewing on these daytime impressions. now, in fact, more often we see, uh, dreams about the film that we watched before going to bed. there , the plot of the book is a conversation, which is some kind of plot, well, in the vast majority of cases. after all, this is a proposal for ordinary life. and i dream the same thing. i completely agree with this point of view, since i dream about such industrial affairs, say, or families. yes , patients dream of a conference there, some difficulties of the person who dreamed
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conferences. no, it's just a production process. yes and mmm. well, i don’t even remember him having any kind of dream. that’s the meaning that i couldn’t explain to myself. i understand that i dreamed about it, because i’m preparing for it, because i’m thinking about it, well, what? color in dreams is something that worries me very much, my friends, why some are black and white and others are color blind. this is how blind people couldn’t distinguish color - this is a different story, if a person is blind from birth, he doesn’t dream of touching her at all he dreams of no images, because it is not embedded in his brain. yes? these are the visual images that arise in him, because initially he does not know what they are. here. and if we talk about hmmm uh dreams, well, there are non-colored ones. eh, let's say dreams without mentioning color and colorlessness. and it’s better for people of color to make this dichotomy this way. uh, really more often. mentally
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ill people tell colorful dreams. this is a statistical fact, why because a person has a mental disorder, he is generally elevated activity in many brain systems that are responsible precisely for emotional perception. anything in life. this includes dreams. well, perfectly healthy people also have the right to see. eh, colorful dreams. just less often than mentally ill people. eh, when they tried to understand, this is what determines memorization of color in dreams. as a result, we came to the conclusion that it is determined by the personality of the person himself. there are people who hmm who pay more attention to forms, external entourage yes, to some nuances of the relationship. yes, we know these people. these people are women. yes , it has indeed been shown that women see colored dreams more often than men. although some men also see flowers in their dreams. i think if we take
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awake men and women, women will remember the light more. yes absolutely true. and uh, even. well, if we take it, within the same gender, men and women are already asking about these elements. these are colors, it turns out that dreams in color are more likely to occur. that is, those people corresponding to the gender who are generally in life pays more attention to color. that is, this is not a characteristic of sleep. it's just a personality characteristic. it’s the personality that makes the colors interesting. but this is not interesting, he doesn’t remember. we teach in a fashionable way, at least in the past there was even a group formed by those who tried to control dreams. there were even such practices as how to control a lucid dream, how realistic it is to control your sun, respectively, vision. yes, it’s not that it’s just that it’s real. yes this is a definite one practice. uh, psychological training defined there, this issue of how to develop dream management techniques
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was resolved back in the last century. in 1900 , 70, i think, the sixth year, a group was created to study these lucid dreams. and then she’s done. as a matter of fact, i decided on these dream management techniques. they are quite affordable. they require a lot of time, as you can learn to control dreams. you need to , uh, learn to understand where you are. are you awake in it or in a dream to differentiate it state. that is, you must learn to save. i have already said partial criticism that a feature of sleep is the absence of criticism, because the frontal lobes of the brain are asleep, but you can train yourself so that these frontal lobes do not sleep completely, again here is an example of a mother who responds to the call of a child, if there is one strong motivation, strong desire, you can really tune yourself and these practices. uh, learning to test let's say on the unknown reality there is a wonderful
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film. the beginning of yes by christopher nolan where here there, and the heroes checked the reality of the world, is it in the real world or in a dream, so either the top spins endlessly or it falls, since there is a friction force and in these techniques it is proposed to concentrate on one of the objects that are always with you there on your hand quite methodology is proposed. look at yourself all the time, not all the time, when to remember this and ask yourself. i mean, i am or aged. and here 's a moment. you look and see that something is wrong. your hand looks and you you will understand that you are in a dream as soon as you understand that you are in a dream. you can control this dream, that is, you are already the king of your dreams. and this is the benefit of managing your dreams. no benefit from my point of view. yes, indeed , they are still trying to adapt this to something. uh, well, first of all. uh, he's trying to adapt this to the treatment of people who have intrusive
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nightmares. these are people. here, those who have experienced some kind of exceptional stress, psychotrauma, and they have this traumatic episode. indeed, regardless of their desires , a dream constantly spills out. it's very painful. so they are taught to interact. with these, so to speak , dream images. so, uh, maintaining control over them, but again, to learn this technique of lucid dreaming. you need to spend a lot of time. why is it easier to give a pill to this patient and he will calm down, and it won’t go away just as much faster. these unpleasant dreams. another semi-mythological theme. many people claim that they dream things. i dreamed it, and it happened. what are the scientific explanations? why does such a sensation of dream substance occur? well, from the point of view of science , the so-called dream things are nothing special. there is such a beautiful term probabilistic forecasting. yes, that is, we do this all the time while awake. we don't notice this. this is one of the functions.
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actually, our nervous system. that is, um, our brain is always looking a little ahead to build a model of the future. so uh, if this model changes, then we become wary and change the body’s mode of operation. this is turning our heads and looking at each other. yes, let's kick our teeth and fists there. yes, we are preparing to repel the attack. yes, if nothing changes, this model continues. it’s as if the renewal continues and the same thing happens in the sleep state, the only difference is that in wakefulness we are not constantly adjusting this model based on the data that comes to us from our senses. this is called hmm bayesian forecasting, that is, all the time this model is being clarified, and therefore we have a pretty good idea of ​​what will happen around us in a few seconds; in a dream, there is no such arrival of new information. information comes quite chaotically from our memories. that is, according to modern ideas. still, dreams arise when the center turns on, and in
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the brain, the rem sleep center, and it sends out such uh, activating disinhibitory, well, impulses throughout the brain and various memories from different times flash up. and the brain needs to explain why everything he sees it and some kind of strange story is built, where, so to speak, what we thought about there or saw recently is adjacent to the fact that we haven’t even thought about it for a very long time. yes, and we are not surprised, because we have turned off criticism at this time, and our brain continues to tell this story and quite from the point of view of science, it is possible that , uh, several memories will flash, on the basis of which the brain will be able to create more less like that. uh, a correct probabilistic forecast that will come true after some amount of time. well this is separate categories dreams about health, what during sleep could be a signal of some kind of illness? yes , indeed, this is, uh, real substance science. you can say so, because statistics have actually accumulated that
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there are such typical dream plots that indicate the onset of a disease or, accordingly, a broken disease of some organ, but more often with diseases of the respiratory system. they are more indicative when a person dreams that he is drowning, that he is squeezing through some narrow hole, that he cannot inhale. this happens to be bronchial, that is, you should go right away. eh, pullmanul, well , pay attention. well, psychogenics also play a very large role. yes, if a person first reads these stories, then he will begin to dream about such things. yes, it’s more likely that he will then go to a psychiatrist with such terrible stories. but in the 21st century , some gadgets help us. well, i don’t know, they stimulate the brain so that it relaxes , or they do something with it. well, how are you around us a lot, but unfortunately right to mine exceptionally, unfortunately, there are still no
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gadgets that would help us somehow both evaluate it and manage sleep. there’s even our wonderful fitness tracker, which everyone is looking at there, how deep i had. how much superficial sleep does not show enough accuracy of anyone else. unfortunately, although this is a matter of time, and i, of course, would really like to see a gadget that allows you to fall asleep on demand, yes. even in theory no not yet. of course there are different ones, so what are the options for using them? electromagnetic waves in order to somehow imitate, for example, the activity of the brain in a state of deep sleep and thus force it to switch to the same mode, but artificially by imposing a rhythm, none of the creators of these gadgets has yet succeeded. well, there is a tougher technique, transcriminal magnetic stimulation. hmm, there were several studies where it was shown that people with insomnia. here again there is such a powerful electromagnetic effect. it may reduce the excitability
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of the cerebral cortex. and it seems to reduce the severity of the sleep disorder is the same medical question. this is not a question of improving a healthy person. well, still , come up with something to sleep less, feel more rested, and it doesn’t work out; nature has already thought of everything. yes, we listened nearby , there are ducks around us, walking around the pond, in a flock, when there are heifers standing inside. they sleep with two hemispheres: the duck that is outside the flock sleeps with it, the hemisphere that is connected, so to speak. e s the eye that looks inside the flock, and the hemisphere that is connected to the eye that looks outside the flock does not sleep. come on, whales, this is a phenomenon of local sleep, the so-called, uh, discovered by our soviet scientists. yes, at that time, near novorossiysk, when experiments were carried out on dolphins, and then it was discovered that dolphins can actually sleep with one hemisphere in order to emerge in time and inhale air. how can we adopt
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the practice of the dolphin? and the pioneer is already done. it is there. we just forget to get creative in childhood. yes, at night, when you walked in your sleep , this is a variant of this local sleep, when the nervous system is not yet very strong, sometimes these are really natural, as it were, capabilities of the brain. they come true unexpectedly : the child gets up and goes somewhere and cannot explain later why he is doing this? because most of his brain was asleep, but the smaller part controlled some such learned movements. yes, she gave out awakening and gave out some kind of movement that he himself does not understand later. why did he do it? well, after all, the main question is was. well, especially young active people, how to be smart and cheerful, but sleep a little less, at least half an hour to an hour, how to cut it down is easy, but easy. yes, this technique is called the polyphasic sleep technique. it’s also called the regime of leonardo da vinci, and there’s a story about how the genius
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of the renaissance slept only there, in my opinion, 3 hours a day, because he split up his sun and slept for 15 minutes every four hours. so in this way we will save time, what’s the idea? eh, this polyphasic sleep, but this one, so that uh, removing the extra part of the dream is extra, which means, uh, not the deepest, but not the most effective uh. if you look at the picture of a snout, when a person falls asleep, how he moves from one state of sleep to another, we will see that the largest amount of such high-quality deep sleep occurs in the first half of the night, but in the first half of sleep. there is a common expression that an hour before midnight is equal to 2 hours of sleep after midnight, it is somehow wrong in something correct it is wrong that by the time of day the depth of sleep is not tied after midnight, you can lie down and also get a wonderful amount of deep sleep, but uh, the depth of sleep is tied to the halves of sleep in the first half of sleep, it is always deeper, better quality
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, more beneficial than in the second half of sleep. if it was possible to cut off sleep in such a way as to leave only the first half, then it is indeed possible, due to this additional depth of sleep, to reduce its amount, which is what is proposed in the polyphasic sleep technique, when a person is offered sleep many times during the day, but uh, for a short time and in total he, for example. he protects his sleep time up to 5 hours, yes, but at the same time, the total amount of deep sleep he receives per day is not much less, that is, this idea has actually been tested, it is popular among such fanatics. um, so to speak, as biohacking is called. so there were scientific studies in this direction, which showed that yes indeed a person is in this mode. he can live for several months and perform all his necessary functions without experiencing it. no particular health problems. and it's not dangerous. well, at least there were no long-term observations in this regard. and yes,
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all the same, all hmm functions will not be fully restored here. i think that over the years, this fatigue of the body will take its toll and the likelihood of developing various diseases will increase. but if a person has to, there is some important period of life. yes, he really needs to make the most of his resources. well i think he can. stand by example is well, this is a classic example of these single trances atlantic races, when athletes fight, who will be the first to cross the atlantic from europe to america and they are interested in not sleeping at all, of course, yes, but it doesn’t work out for them, as they don’t shorten their sleep anyway, 5 hours and they have to sleep in during this period of time every day, but uh hmm those who tried this technique, they no longer practice it. why? because this technique completely separates a person from
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society, because it implies that you have to do it by the hour and by the minute. go to bed, get up, then drop everything again and run to bed. yes, here's the table to run out and tell your friends that you'll wait. i'll be back in an hour, we'll continue. i’ll start not with clinical disorders, when a person cannot sleep, but with the desire to delay bedtime, because so much accumulates during the day. and now the night comes, i will repent. today i went to bed on the third day because i finished working in a private office. i couldn't lie down right away. i finally had some free time, this hour and a half, i wasted absolutely no time, i slept poorly, but there is little time in life. so, how to deal with this, that freedom comes to a person at night, and he wants to stretch it out. well , this effect is also called the edison effect . indeed, it is shown that uh hmm in the twentieth
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century compared to the 19th, and sleep time has changed. e among people in general popularity. here are 21st century comparison statistics. i haven't seen it. quite likely. which also decreased even more, because gadgets have already arrived here. these are not the effects of these sleepy ones , and the effect there of the silicon valley of the silicon valley is different. and oh well, so what? what to do? we have a psychological attitude that, well, somehow there is little free time, any probably active person has little of it, and the night hours are the time when well, more or less you are free, they won’t write to you, they won’t call you to a meeting, and you don’t want waste time on sleep, but spend it on some kind of human recreation - entertainment. here's how to combat this attitude. well, this is an artificial installation. still. this is the imposition of certain invented social norms on our biology. biology is ancient. yes, does biology know what it is doing? yes, here you go if she has two arms and two legs, well,
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even if we like it better, one arm and one leg. yes, but this is how it turned out without biologically, that it will still be there genetically, that the same individuals will be swamped. yes and everything will be stamped, especially by sleeping for seven to nine hours. this means that this has already been verified as a necessary condition for human existence, as species and we cannot, so to speak hmm, at our request. yes, just change this process, so to speak. although we may not for a while, really, so to speak, well , shift it in your direction, unfortunately, our time is already coming to an end. here is the main advice you give regarding sleep hygiene. here's how to sleep properly. the most important thing, as the history of evolution shows. the state of sleep regulates itself remarkably well. that is, the most important thing to sleep well is not to interfere with your sleep. now you know that you need so many hours to rest. you know that you don't have to jump before bed, which is what they do. nature itself already provides this.
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to you. everything else many thanks to mikhail for telling so many interesting things. many thanks to you for listening to us. many thanks to the cat bar, who helped me broadcast this broadcast. well, we wish everyone a good, strong , healthy sleep, goodbye. hello, bright weekend in moscow, moscow , answer, answer, the next anniversary of its founding, a rich program has been prepared for city day. concerts of pop stars , performances, festivals, including gastronomic ones are the main center of attraction for poklo.

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