the stars, so there is a world of transparent air , such farsightedness and at the same time hospitality, family kindness. that’s another thing that ’s important, yes. so that’s exactly what she likes in his poetry. there was even such a famous poem and song : yellow leaves, leaves. everything falls, falls , people trample with galoshes, trample with galoshes in clay or people. they forgot how much good there is for them. these leaves were once given as gifts. i know that new leaves will sprout and there will be new expenses, but for some reason it seems unfair to me laws of nature. i definitely found it so touching to write about these leaves. they fell that they were still there and had to have new feelings, and he felt such cruel pity for these forests that people forgot how many good emotions there were. once upon a time they gave me something like this. here’s love even for the fact that you kind of understand that this is the law

of nature, he says, it’s unfair. i think this is something like what he said about his dad and his parents. yes, which are the highest courts, yes, then what is no longer there, that is, we must appreciate what is leaving, uh, people and leaves and nature and the past from this there are a lot of such covenants. here, take care of your friends. he has, for example, and after the death of his mother with such a poem, that those who are no longer alive, rather than cry sympathetically with me, feel sorry for their mothers , protect them from all sorts of problems from any troubles. at any cost, you understand, he was a friend to his readers, a person who is going through some kind of experience, and he says, it happened to me, so the same thing happens, he recognizes himself. yes, strictly speaking, but this is a continuation of that reasoning, which we heard from the first friends. he says i adhered to them with weakness. how much of your life have your friends left behind? how many

friends have left me? this is so nice, i wanted to ask you, and i was a little uncomfortable. suddenly you remember little or don’t remember, but it’s obvious, you remember, the element of the father. this is such a wonderful night crayfish light project. there is such a concept that it blocks daylight, uh, the light of the soul, and precisely at night. we can see the inner light 1 2 3 4 5 6, 7. fourth wow, there you are breathing my data thread it was a bach aria and a prayer our father in aramaic in aramaic. this is the language the savior spoke to them. whether you are a christian, a muslim or

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is, representatives of different types of art, beautiful. uh, photography. let's look at the photos already, but with other authors. this is konstantin simonov, he has already been mentioned, as if the department is mikhailovich simonov and chingi the old man. and this is swearing. and here it’s already international. yes this is fidel castro, uh, this is a photograph in the harbor and look what conversation is not yet. who is more compressive? yes, proceed like this , look. i read this in my memoirs. uh, there was one person who was talking to my dad during those years, my dad. naturally, with a translator there, he gave fidel a burka and wrote a poem. well, when they talked, then it was like he was a bit of a plump person, and fidel joked something to the translator. and dad saw this and asked. and what does he say, he jokes about your figure, he says, say yes to the revolution, we

they were also slim, beautiful, beautiful. well , fidel castro and rasul gamzatov, who listens to whom? you can’t even tell right away. eh, well, there were other meetings. this is archbishop makarius, the first uh, head of the president of the republic of cyprus yes, a very famous dieter. well, finally. here we have more. cool photo where rasul gamzatovich talks to his fellow countrymen, well, with ordinary people, apparently , and it is clear that these elders are wonderful. e not young people are very attentive to rasul gamzatov, understand? why street lenin was renamed, of course, look at this photograph, because he was not a stranger. yes, because he is one of his own, well, kondratov has jokes. he knows how to be witty, he knows how to be ironic

towards himself, and he, of course, is always in love. or rather, his lyrical play is always in love. this is exactly what the poem is about, about which we will now hear performed by anatoly prosalov, and if there are thousands of men in the world, what is it called by anatoly prosalov? if there are 1,000 men in the world ready to equip you, matchmakers know what is in this thousand i am among men and i am rasul gamzatov, if 100 men have been captivated by you for a long time, whose blood rushes with a roar to discern between them. no wonder a highlander named rasul, if 10 true husbands are in love with you, the fire is not hidden among them, rejoicing, and i am grieving. i'm rasul

gamzatov if i'm just crazy about you, not inclined to be an ambassador. know that this is from the cloudy peaks, a highlander called rasul. if you are not in love, no one is sadder than the gloomy sunsets. so rasul gamzatov is buried in the mountains on the basalt plateau. how’s your dad? belonged to glory. but he understood his scale and the degree of his fame. he felt like a great poet, dad. he said that a poet should have more doubt than conceit, and i actually remember one person telling me. here's a friend of mine, she read, uh, dad's poems. and so, uh, she told me that she heard him say that when

i entered college. i thought i was a great poet. when i finish. i thought i was just a poet. and now i’m wondering if i’m a poet, here, everywhere, caucasian such wit. yes floristicity. look how the person says, yes, and this is the red-kuna, and she said that she once came to visit dad. he asked fain what do you think, that’s why i said that you are rasul, you are a great poet, that is, you understand, he the higher he went, maybe? the more a person comprehends, the more he understands, but uh, this is the scope of this. well, he's just that , yes, yes responsibility. he was just thinking about this, and he has a poem for his mother. he addresses his mother and writes how pale he was. i am slava a. right now i need this night, like burka and like you dawn. that’s what i remember, even somehow he says, how is this the top of the head, except for

the fresh shirts. i don’t need anything else, but i’ll say fresh fresh in all honesty. i don't need anything. he and his mother had such an interesting union. he was a creative person, and uh, at the same time, somehow well, they printed it, and my mother was just so more organized . bulava and here, uh, the house where we live in makhachkala is different it was all built by his mother, he generally managed the household, as if he had never dealt with it , and that’s what he didn’t delve into, and he really there was a man who could communicate and teach at a high level, and he was very friendly to people. and when , after his mother’s death, he was in the hospital, um, i came to visit him, and he laughed and said this. today i am two hundred tarks of you from dismissal. they say they went to buy food during working

hours, they were caught, they said, “we’re bringing this to rasul gamzatov, he sent us,” and they went to him and said, “tell us that you sent them.” yes, he was a member of the president of the supreme council deputies. well, i see that there are even very mediocre officials of whom people are afraid because of this. he was the kind of man who would be with a woman and could come up with something to come and say. tell me what we did for you and they knew that he would help them. he reacted somehow without asking him. well, in the same hospital , this was the case with him, it was not the case he was there, when all these intensive care nurses were there in the evenings, they sang songs to him, told him , remembered how they communicated with him. just like he and dad thought. uh, he told me that speaks. he says, i thought that people had become so callously evil, these girls. they tell them everything,

what kind of songs they sing, and they raised him with this before themselves. well, you know, uh, this photo is very good. i would like to finish our conversation today, despite the fact that a person has traveled all over the world, reached the heights of glory , but still for real, but he feels at home. here, in his homeland of dagestan, on horseback, finally, and this is a parting photograph that says that gamzatov will live well in these brines. i am from i thank you with all my heart. thank you very much for this most interesting conversation. thank you very much. all the best, i'm sure i'll see you again. well, anatoly , i also thank you from the bottom of my heart, because you are a wonderful reader of gonzat’s elements. well, to you , our dear interlocutors. i remind you that all episodes of the podcast. let them talk, let them read , you can watch it on the website of channel one

1tv.ru hello, i am pilot cosmonaut anton shkaplerov, this is a space history podcast. today my guest is wonderful daria deputy general director of a private russian space company, journalist. dasha hello, hello, anton nikolaevich, you graduated from the faculty of journalism and, as far as i understand, it had nothing to do with astronautics, but by some miracle you began to work in the space industry. tell us about your first contact with space. it seems to me that the key word here is miraculously, because i never planned and did not want to connect my life, i did not want

to explain this, in general, why i say not i wanted to because my dad has worked in the aviation field all his life. and my grandfather was a pilot, so i can say that, probably, i can say that there is such an aviation dynasty. naturally, when i graduated from school, the first thing my parents asked was if i would like to try to enter my moscow aviation institute. yes, but there was something in me, apparently different. it seemed to me that i was a more humanitarian person, a more creative person. and i decided to go to the faculty of journalism of the russian state humanitarian university university, where i graduated , probably eight years after i graduated from the university, i miraculously ended up in the cosmonautics museum. but before we talk about the cosmonautics museum. i will take a step back and tell you about what happened to me, when i was 10-11 years old, because my first contact with space, if we talk about it, it happened

exactly at that age, i lived in hanoi in vietnam dad. i worked there on duty. he was just meeting uh, all the important guests who flew to the city of hanoi and one day valentina vladimirovna tereshkova flew to hanoi , my dad told me that the first woman was arriving as an astronaut. i already knew that. naturally, i really wanted to meet you, and i don’t remember my first feeling from our meeting, but i remember something else. i remember that she took a postcard then. a-and she signed it for me and gave it to me. dad, i looked, and it was written there. all the best to daryushka. valentina vladimirovna tereshkova and i remember, then it gave birth to such an incredible wave of warmth in me, because uh, a lot of people came, a lot of autographs were left, everyone wrote very different things.

i was literally there a month before. another very famous person who wrote to me, dasha, uh, listen to my dad, always do the dishes. i was upset. and here there was some very warm, very human attitude. this was my first contact with space, and then we very quickly move to 2014, when i was invited to the position of head of the press service at the moscow museum of cosmonautics. and if you know, then in the fourteenth year, a new director just came to the museum and they were recruiting a new team. and here we are with this new team. i, too, came to the museum and a completely different life began for me, which i can now say is 10 years old. i work in space. here i have it. absolutely such a feeling, because i got this involvement in an absolutely incredible, and area that energizes me so much that i can talk about it endlessly and thanks to what

the museum gave me thanks to that experience thanks to, those acquaintances, thanks to those meetings that i had in the museum. i am really. it seems to me that i have succeeded both in many ways as a person and in many ways as a professional in this field. what was the museum like? when you came to work in 2014, was the museum very different from that museum? eh, how do we see him now with you and strongly? i was probably different , because i, like many people, had the feeling that a museum is something frozen, that nothing happens in a museum, that a museum is necessarily about some kind of exhibits. eh, which are often not always followed it's clear what it's worth. and especially if it is a scientific and technical museum, and therefore, of course, i had such an attitude towards the museum. uh, i don’t understand yet, what to expect next? what to expect next from this place and little by little. my team and i started to develop all this, develop , develop one project, made a second project

, made something here and improved it. something has been improved here and, looking ahead, i will say that in 2014, the attendance of the moscow museum of cosmonautics was more than 200 thousand people in the year before the pandemics. this was the attendance almost 800,000 people. the museum was filled with life, the museum was constantly filled with some kind of activity, some kind of movement, and very different target audiences began to come to the museum. that is, this is also important, so that not only the conventional techie there, who lives in all this, but also people who are engaged in different professions, different specialties, as far as possible from space, so that he also wants to come to the museum, so that they inspire through all the stories that they can hear there and that they further, perhaps, leaving the museum already thought, maybe somehow connect their life with space or remember, i don’t know, some stories that their relatives told them about how their life was already connected with space, that is,

there was a task. well, the museum and they even had two first tasks - after a person went through the entire exhibition, so that he understood and was filled with this pride in general. that ’s because any exhibit that you look at is there. eh, do you want it or not? he fills this with pride and joy, probably from belonging. and therefore, the first thought is that every person, perhaps, is the first, like yuri alekseevich gagarin, was the first in space , regardless of what area you work in or in what area you do something, and the second thought. it is, of course, precisely about the fact that space is an immense topic . space is a topic that is possible. of course, in which you can immerse yourself in exploring and e space is a topic with which each of us is connected, and speaking of exhibits, if some favorite exhibit is in a museum, i think that any person who works or has worked in a museum

and he will say that he absolutely loves all the exhibits in the museum. but of course, i will probably say about several exhibits that at one time made a great impression on me. and the first exhibit is a cardiogram of yuri alekseevich gagarin , which was taken on the eve of the launch. why does this exhibit make such an impression on me? because the first time i looked at him, i looked at him and studied him, surrounded by people with medical education. and when they looked at this cardiogram, they told me, and you know, but surprisingly the person is not worried at all. i say how it is, how can he not worry. tomorrow he will fly into space for the first time. and this made a great impression on me. and i decided for myself that these are all the astronauts and all the people who are probably dedicated in their lives. seed, they are very similar in some ways to yuri alekseevich. i think that you are anton nikolaevich too. and probably, probably, they were a little worried, but on your cardiogram, probably this was not noticeable, and the second

exhibit about which i want to say this an exhibit that entered the museum already during my work at the museum. this is a letter from faina georgievna ranevskaya, which was written on the death of yuli alekseevich gagarin in the year sixty-eight, and the letter is faina georgievna raevskaya writing to tatyana a test from a journalist of her friend. why did it make such an impression on me? because i saw in this letter, and the reaction and pain, probably, of the population of not only the entire soviet union but also the entire world to the death of the first, uh, cosmonaut of the planet. i can even quote a few lines from there, because that i worked a lot with this letter. there are probably two such fragments that i can now reproduce. the first fragment sounds as follows, and faina georgievna ranevskaya writes. that day i played scenes from somovo and when i returned home i drank vodka alone

. this has never happened to me. and it’s immediately clear how people perceived the death of the first cosmonaut and even further. she writes. she says why didn’t they tell gagarin that he now belonged to the world, and not to himself, and they allowed him to fly, and i sent this letter to wearing special gloves next to special people from the funds. i held it in my hands. this, of course, makes a colossal impression further. did you have the opportunity to visit, uh, various space objects? well, thanks to the fact that you work at the museum of cosmonautics, of course, and the museum, for example, the museum, generally opened the door to this industry and to this area, and several places that i which i want to talk about, and the first one is probably rkcal energy, because the museum, which is located under the museum, which is an enterprise, which make our ships part of the station,

yes, they have their own museum. they have their own museum there. maybe, as far as i understand , the agreement is small, maybe it’s generally open. even now you just need to contact them and time. yes why did he make an impression on me? because there i saw the genuine ones, and the descent vehicles of both yuri alekseevich gagarin and alexey arkhipovich. leonova if i’m not mistaken in the intimate vladimirovich tereshkova that is, all the originals are there, then after many years. we have already done an exhibition at the cosmonautics museum. and uh, the descent module of yuri alekseevich gagarin was on display at the museum of cosmonautics for some time, then returned there. but this is really a place where i also felt some kind of involvement in space, if such an opportunity exists, and i recommend this place to everyone. visit, especially if you have an interest in astronautics or a love for this topic. and one more place is mbp. the institute of medicine for biological problems is also a cosmic place. and i remember that there i first saw this special one hmm this one

the chamber of the room, as it would be more correctly called, where he passed. the first isolation experiment in the year sixty-eight it took place called oh yes, it was called the year in a starship , a very interesting experiment. a very small room is a small experiment and the most interesting thing is that a film about this experiment can be found on the internet to watch a documentary film about how it was done. everything is based there, that is, it was very interesting to watch. do you remember the main results that were very shocking, that people then did not communicate and so on, look with such a practical scientific point of view. let me remind you that there was also a romantic story, because the person who participated in this experiment. at some point he realized that he had fallen in love with a girl who worked outside of this space. she worked. at the institute of medical and biological problems and they and if by voice, or rather there was a video, if i’m not mistaken, it was purely voice communication and correspondence, and there was

correspondence and well, you see how this moment also touched me and the film . i highly recommend watching this, because in general, to have an idea of ​​what an isolation experiment is, because at the institute of medical and biological problems these experiments are still being carried out; there were many of them. they had different simulated conditions during the flight to the moon and the flight to mars. we remember all the mars 500 experiment. yes, a year and a half in isolation, a year and a half in isolation. it is impossible to imagine, impossible, better than six months. yes, in orbit, but i just wanted to say that it’s hard for me to imagine how it’s possible and everything is much better there, we have and the whole crew is sociable from time to time changing and it's interesting and every day hmm is different, so i'm uh, very proud of my work. i have, of course, the most interesting job you can imagine and my favorite one. naturally, i can’t even imagine what i would do. if i had not gotten into astronautics, i

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will go to the international space station is that before they will be leaving moscow, they definitely had to come to the territory of the memorial house, the sergei pavlovich museum korolev to visit the house of sergei pavlovich korolev to sit on the bench, which are located in the garden next to this house and most importantly. kova for good luck, which back in the day, was found in the yard by sergei pavlovich korolev and he attached it there himself, and therefore i remember very well when you and the crew came to us more than once, and these here. well, maybe you, of course, will take on such a mission, but, in my opinion, from our uh, in my opinion, the very third flight, it was we who resumed this tradition of drinking tea in the house, because really uh sergey just before gagarin’s launch, pavlovich korolev came to the house where he

was next door and came to visit. uh, they drank tea with gagarin titov, it really went down in history and i’m very glad that the museum supports this tradition. we are happy to come. here are the crew skins. we were yet another such immersion into astronautics in history. that is , they saw genuine things of people who lived sergei pavlovich korolev and visited his house. we heard a lot of interesting things about your colleagues, and i know for sure that they have been they remember how such a good, kind, hospitable place where you always want to return, but besides the traditions that are associated with the house of sergei pavlovich korolev, i also want to talk about an experience that it seems to me that i will remember everything for the rest of my life once i was, and on returning crew from the international space station along with a search and rescue team. i went to the kazakh degree. it was a long road. and we

spent the night in the steppe, and i remember, this is the morning. it was summer, and it was dawn and they gave us a photo when it happened. uh, return crew. by the way, i can even say what kind of crew it was. the commander of the ship was oleg kononenko, he flew with uh, sanjak and ann. and this is the crew we met. ahh, amazing, just something incredible. that is, it seems to me that the moment the rocket takes off is something that changes, uh, human perception. and here you are no longer just seeing off the cosmonauts. here you are meeting them, are you meeting them? it seems to me that this is always more pleasant, and i remember, it seems to me that this morning is literally there minute by minute, when we understand that when everything happens, everyone has already had breakfast. everything is literally ready. now, there are only a few minutes left at home of the moment when

this black dot of the descent vehicle, which is returning from space, should appear in the absolutely transparent, uh, blue, blue sky. that's when i tell, that is, a story. i always tell everyone that i allowed myself to, when i saw this point, i allowed myself not to forgive for a person who works in this industry. as i look at it, the sky was transparent , there was nothing. and at this moment i see this dot and say. listen, space really exists that's it, they're coming back. and it’s amazing this point is getting bigger more more at this moment there is absolutely such a very professional bustle on earth because everyone is going, going, going, all services are working. everything is very coordinated. there are blue birds, these cars, and they are lined up on the horizon, all this is incredible. it is beautifully clear that the people who are working at this moment. they don't pay attention to it that way. after all, i went there as representatives, or let’s say the press of a brigade of a brigade of journalists, and i had another opportunity to reflect on this topic is when special people land

and approach the descent vehicle. there is a radiation check, one second, that is, everything is very clear. i'm surprised how a huge number of services work simultaneously, i say, well-coordinated. this is probably the most correct word that describes the process. ahh, the descent module opens and the astronauts appear. and at this moment it seems that some kind of miracle is happening. well , then i tell you this as if you never had anything to do with it i haven’t met anyone, at least not yet , but i think that it’s there from the inside. this is of course, and everything is perceived in an even more amazing way. well, from the outside it looks like this, but after 10 years of working in the museum. there were such meetings that i remember most of all, i can’t single out just one, because it would be incorrect in front of everyone else, and their cosmonauts and employees of the rocket and space industry with

whom i had the opportunity to communicate, because every meeting is something... then something new was born in me brought something, but i have to answer this question. and i’ll probably tell you about, uh, several of my meetings with alexey arkhipovich lemon, who came to the cosmonautics museum many times, who already perceived this place as a kind of home, there was absolutely a feeling that he felt at home there, probably in the best sense i'm at home too. nu and alexey arkhipovich leonov for the first time when we had a shoot, i remember that there were some foreign journalists and alexey arkhipovich, and already somewhere in the fifth or sixth hour of shooting. he continued he was so energetic, he was already, of course, old, but he was very energetic; he was there giving some instructions to the film crew. we continued filming about 5-6 hours later, colleagues. uh, foreign journalists, they come up and say alexey arkhipovich. let's take a break and take a breather. we need lunch, we need to exhale a little. it’s difficult for us, and here alexey arkhipovich gathers and

says, so i worked like this for 20 years without lunch. and you will not continue to film and we are about now, yes, about 3 hours company always 3 hours before, in the evening they were still filming, really. there, it seems to me, they didn’t even bother to get some water, because that’s how it is for them. so, of course, i also remember the story of elixir arkhipovich. leonov e he loved to tell in detail about his spacewalk. uh, for those who don't know, you just don't spend it temporarily now. i would probably recommend watching the film time of the first, which tells the story in great detail. well, let me just remind you that alexey arkhipovich leonov was supposed to return the airlock chamber, as we remember , with our feet, and inside into the airlock chamber itself, to close the hatch behind us, because it will close automatically.

yes, back then no one had done it automatically, and he had to close it on his own, because no one could do it for him, we remember that due to the large number of emergency situations, many of which alexey arkhipovich coped with, and he failed with my feet. and to go down he had to swim his head into the camera in love. and when do you swim headfirst into the airlock chamber because the spacesuit is very large? the spacesuit, this one, by the way, is a technological duplicate of it , located in the museum of cosmonautics. you can see him in general, how he looked and because he is very large and this backpack at the back was impossible to just take and turn around and elixir arkhipovich. he releases the pressure in the suit, exposing his life, of course, to enormous risk, but at the same time he understands how much pressure can be reached in the grass. yes, he turns around and closes this one hatch and beyond. that's when he told the whole story. he then made such a theatrical pause and spoke. and you know, what’s most important, i realized at that moment, as if everyone was somehow listening to him. at this moment you froze

, trying to understand what i was telling you. i realized that you want to live smarter, spin smarter, brilliant daria, what projects are you proud of, which were, uh, the museum of cosmonautics. during your work, one of the projects was called searching for unsent postcards. i'll tell his backstory. then my colleague olya and i the two of us worked in the press service and at some point he flies to us. just on the wings of inspiration, an employee from the acquisition service and the acquisition backlog brings 16 postcards with a photograph of cosmonaut vladimir mikhailovich komarov and we see that on the back of these postcards the autograph of the cosmonauts is genuine and in his own hand, and it is written to whom the postcard is intended and where it needed to be sent, but for some reason these cards were not sent. what was interesting was that they were all signed by residents ufa and me and mine