here you sit and read it. i sat with a pencil and left ticks all the time, because... well, this is such an unexpected phrase, unlike anything else. am images. eh, it’s all so intertwined and twisted. and why are you just sitting there and don’t understand how a person could come up with the idea of ​​composing the words unique optics like that, but that’s what, uh, techniques are all about. it’s right for us women to create an image out of some unexpected things. well, for example, his poems are more difficult for me to read. the novel is readable. in general, well, in one breath, while he is very poetic. he figurative - that's of course. well reading. well, in general, it’s a serious read, but he reads it easily and with interest, and for me, here’s the main character, she ’s wild, charming, despite the fact that she’s a couple . e, in general, this is an anti-female image, but an image that was very often in russian, it seems to me , literature begins nastasya filippo i don’t know, anna karenina is such a fan

of a fatal woman who destroys herself in this whirlwind, so sexy, feminine, smart. eh, dangerous whirlwinds swirl around the standing men and that’s it. it's a whirlpool around a woman spinning and spinning. and it seems to me that it is necessary to say why this whirlpool arises. eh, plot-wise. in general, vladimir is olga’s husband and olga begins to meet his brother sergei , the people’s commissar. uh, then she starts an affair with dokuchaev. we can probably call him a merchant. he is such a nepman, a merchant, in general, a person who makes good money in the war and does some kind of fraud. and so olga, one might say, captivates almost every man she meets, uh, and somehow, in general, and vladimir perceives all this

he patiently endures the story, he adores olga and probably this is some kind of unusual family relationship and maybe the novel is easy to read precisely because there is still, uh, some kind of plot narrative, and we follow , what will happen to them , how such relationships develop, what will happen to olga well, of course, it’s always modern , in fact, if you turn to contemporary art, sex violence sells well, and then there is sex violence. but if we say, it’s very simple and banal, but it seems to me that she’s also very difficult for herself yourself difficult. she is interesting, smart. this is olga, so maybe she is attractive to men. well, you know, no one likes good girls by and large, everyone loves women with a mallet , only a woman with a mallet. you never know what to expect from her and at what second she will either fall in love with you or she will shoot at you, a disaster for herself that she, uh, she herself doesn’t know

what to expect from herself. the whole novel, sons, is about how olga is trying, but to realize himself in the post-revolutionary world in these terrible events, and tries to understand, and with what she wants to be a man, trying to understand. and what should she do in life, and is she trying to find some kind of destiny. yes, of course, there is a wonderful alarm there, when the matter is already coming to an end, and vladimir says, and olga , well, do something. yes, well, yes, you want to act, but she says i don’t want to go to the movies. here are better photographs, but this is not very interesting, parents of the child. she says, no, i don't want to. the puppies i had were a premium puppy. yes, and they are cute. yes, for several months, until they start to shit. yes, it's all like that pose. this is also a provocation, of course, this does not mean that maybe she would want something. it seems to me that she provokes both herself

and the people around her who come across this all the time, this is a provocation when a person is not at ease with himself. and it seems to me that the main problem is that she is restless by herself. is it possible to imagine her somewhere, but at a serious job, and her with her family, so that they have children, she doesn’t need anything, she didn’t last long, that’s the problem. no one held it for long, at least like this said, heads were flying. yes, soccer balls. alex please tell me, is this an autobiographical novel or can it be copied from life, that is, where did maringov get the material for the texture, generally great, yes, if you look at the literary e-uh of that time , then, in my opinion, olga’s quality is easily guessed liliya yurievna brik yes, who knew all of literary moscow and not only moscow, all of literary russia yes the girl who drove vladimir mayakovsky crazy and not only yes, but this is the story in

cynics, when olga cheats for the first time vladimir yes comes home late at night. i cheated on you. what vladimir says to try on for you, yes, and exactly the same episode happened in life, and lily brit and osipov had it at the very beginning of their relationship. if we talk about some other factor a, there is an excellent critic. and culturologist alexey yuryevich ladrotov. yes, and when we organized an essay for the meeting in 1913, and for this meeting he wrote an essay for this meeting, which means he says that vladimir and olga are their relationship. this is a kind of application of maring itself. and sergei yesenina uh-huh no, maringov, after all, we have a normative person. he was happily married all his life to one woman. and in general, this is still probably a very bold assumption.

you know what i mean, in general, it’s a banal thought, but if you imagine those times of god, they abolished all the foundations of society, everything knocked out, can you imagine what they had in general among developed people, what was going on in their souls and in their heads, when you don’t even understand what to rely on there is no god, there seems to be no sex either, this gives rise to a certain debauchery. eh, well, there you go some kind of experiments all the time, plus more experiments are going on in art and art is very avant-garde, so what was going on with them there. it seems to me that they were boiled in some kind of boiling cauldron. if we also talk about the texture, then a let’s remember in the financial price yes, but about she calls vladimir and says, i’m shooting myself and vladimir is rushing at full speed, and he’s trying to save her. yes, of course, nothing works out. some images of this horse are expressive, if we take

the texture of life again, then exactly the same episode happened in the life of this imagist merengof's close friend, vadim gabrielovich shershenevich, and he was in love with the actress yulia on duty. yes, i met her for a long time, they had a very difficult relationship. and so she did exactly the same as olga, but we can say that maringov uses real texture, and he also uses newspaper clippings if we go to the library. let's look at the newspapers of those years, we see exactly the same thing and worse, that is, when i was working on biographies of the people, i looked.

but kat, as a director, probably understands that it's impossible to make a character uh convincing yes alive. we believe in this olga. we believe in this situation. it’s impossible if you yourself haven’t gone through a similar experience, but here i don’t quite agree with you, because playing a killer doesn’t mean you have to become a killer. you can have such experience and not necessarily have such experience, and in general, he could understand what he was taking, for sure. actually, oleg is talking about this,

material that reflects some kind of life situation. well, the same hmm, they leaked brik from mayakovsky, but at the same time maybe this could be creatively reworked somehow. everything is drowned very talented person. he creates wildly interesting images. in general, i can’t say that olga is not endlessly cute, so that i would be there with her. if i met such a woman, i would start being friends, most likely, it would be interesting to make an internal film, really. well, it would be interesting for me to talk to her for sure, because this is some kind of curious person with a strange biography with strange looks , clearly refined, very curious, these wonderful, candy-like images of a drunken cherry. yes, and this is all such a provocation pleasant, and she says, yes, you’ll already shoot yourself, that it would be worth living for these candies. yes , and she's a cherry. she found, yes, she walked, yes, pleasure. yes, it’s already dying, it’s already

freezing. i don’t know, it seems to me that well, then what exactly hmm i know that there was mollengov. eh, quite a family nina. but exactly, yes , in life and the traditionality of a person’s views is correct, and there was some kind of experience, uh, before anna borisovna yes , in such a year of their life they understand that it is his personal life, so to speak. this podcast is a must read. i aglaya on the batch file by the director and writer. today my guest is my colleague, also directors, writer ekaterina dvigubskaya and oleg dimidov, critic, poet, literary critic and specialist on anatoly marenguf. why is the novel called price tags? why vladimir olga is a cynic. what else can you call it? well, what's cynical? well, explain it. yes, the very way of life itself, uh, the approach

is so anti-family, anti-religious. yes, i understand that for that time, due to an open relationship. absolutely yes, i understand that for that time and after kolontaevsky uh, a glass of water. yes, roughly speaking, there should be complete sexual emancipation, if a person has a need for sexual intercourse. well, you can’t deny him this, but having sex is just as easy. as you see a glass of water, what is it? yes, people lived in this. it seems to you that cynicism is an uh assessment. this is the way of life of a family system of properly free relationships, a multi-level novel and the price tags are also because they enjoy life in such a difficult time, and vladimir in his own way. a as a refined esthete

, history is formed, yes, ancient history, in my opinion, yes, the entire course of history, and he does not perceive, but what the bolsheviks are doing in terms of politics. yes, he is pumping out, her other sergei takes a high place. there are hierarchies. yes , olga is actually rebuilding. yes, my mistress. katya, please tell me, uh, it seems to you that this is a family system. this is cynical. listen to me, in general i like the word price tags, it’s ringing, you know, it’s roman is much more terrible than this word, which is actually called roman because price tags are it’s, well, like a glass of champagne that you drink, there, i don’t know in the evening, dancing. hmm, somewhere , i don’t know, somewhere on the table, conditionally, but the novel is scary and deep about broken people. and the cynics. it seems to me that in this word, in the way the novel is named, there is also a certain

acacia right, because, well, price tags. well, this is a really funny word. but the novel is not at all merry, if you take into account the scenery. and in general , what happens to the characters, but it is written cheerfully, that is, in this, perhaps there is cynicism in the fact that they relate to the situation in which they got into all so fun, it’s such a dead man’s move, and they laugh sincerely, they revel in life, but the worst thing about this is when people understand that they are dancing. but, well, for this subtle thing there is a man with a pistol on the titanic, relatively speaking, this is very scary. you are interested in such a heroine, but in your book you have not lived it. the childhood heroine, perhaps, is somewhat similar to olga; my heroine is just as provocative, but it’s clear that, well, writing about very good and correct people is boring, but

i always want to find it in a person. well, it’s a kind of wormhole to understand why it’s more interesting to watch such a person. well, in principle, even we in life we are curious about interesting people, and interesting people are rarely against the grain . i will add very correct about how this novel is written. yes, what are we about as a woman? yes? yes, i see you, and you say it, but you say it in your own way, right? how are women? yes, why are we interested in the novel because the terrible time is absolutely terrible? yes, but there are some sparkles of life, these sparkles for us carved by vladimir olga what is imagism according to the marings? this is a combination of pure and unclean, yes, that is, some kind of natural , some kind of blood, this is cannibalism. that is, i feel that there are a lot of really unpleasant things in this novel, the description of the porcelain,

which is described in such a way that it seems to you that one cup of something is coming to you all the time. this dirt dirt dirt and these old surviving objects. eh, wonderful silk there. and it’s all so crystal, beautiful clothes, in my opinion ford is wearing beautiful clothes, but ugly people who cause laughter, some kind of lace, there are beautiful clothes on beautiful people that cause surprise. this is all wildly curious, but the image must be built. so, precisely on this opposition of two principles, yes, if we describe poverty, hunger, and cannibalism, yes, throughout the entire text. well, it will be chernukha. that is, it gives depth to the novel, this naturalism. this is horror, described in detail and contrasted with beautiful things and manifestations of refinement. yes, that's who said

ekaterina, you know he reminded me of anyone. suddenly, now i have such a wonderful writer celine, it reminded me of the maring universe, and they are not completely similar, but this imagery of the language is incredible, when you are like a squall flying at you. why don't you even understand what it is? oleg, please tell me what place the marings occupied. let's say this in the general literary context due to the fact that the novel was banned. yes, and he came out there only in the late eighties. it seems to me that marings are for many. he went unnoticed, he is not as popular as yesenin and we don’t know much about him, so it’s just interesting to understand what place he occupied in the literary system, given that he lived his whole life in russia, he lived in russia all his life, he managed to travel around europe in the mid-twenties, he was in berlin i was in paris, he went and looked, is it worth getting out of russia? if you only get out,

yes. and what experience do his comrades, friends who have already emigrated, like the same alexander borisovich kuzkov have? about the rest yes , and he realized that a could not live without russia, and there’s nothing to do in europe, what if he goes there? how you will have to work, because e for prose for poetry. there they won’t pay as seriously as in soviet russia, that is , with reaction options, it is very much limited, of course, regarding its place in literature. then malenkov is trying to find himself. after prose is forbidden to him, he understands what to write. eh, some kind of social, realistic prose text. this is not this is not about him. that was great. it seems to me that he tried, yes, well, maybe he described it little by little, uh, in the fifties switched to memoirs and my century, my youth, my friends and girlfriends notes of a forty-year-old

man. and hmm, these are your descendants, yes, and this is the golden fund of our memoristics. yes, but actually in the thirties. he moves to leningrad yes, and there he meets all the wonderful writers like zoshchenko, schwartz mikhail kazakov a. boris mikhailovich ikhin, literary critic, danianov and so on. this is such a leningrad bohemia, soviet bohemia , all the thirties, he writes plays, and the plays here are just the same, and more likely socialist realist, yes, but and what was the fate of these plays, they were successful, some were successful, but most were filmed. after the two hundredth performance, before the dress rehearsal, the performance was not solid. not enough by soviet standards. unsatisfied all the time. the way things are going for them, although from my point of view the marings are lucky because

they were not repressed. he earned literary income, which is actually quite a lot, when he moved from kirochnaya to borodino, and hmm, this is in st. petersburg and the next tenants who moved in, uh, in apartment, yes, they left memories later that they moved there, and the entrance door has an insane number of locks, so that there are 10 chains. some kind of paranoia from the thirties is stalin’s terror, and ringov, gnion alone seriously feared for his life. he, in my opinion, mentioned mandelstam’s poems in his plays. yes, somehow they are there. eh, so to speak, he wrote absolutely socialist realistic plays, but with such a double triple bottom, and he could give his texts to the heroes for them to read. eh, walking around

the crimea, poems by mandelstam yes, at that time already absolutely forbidden, exiled to vladivostok, died there, and the intelligentsia, who understood who mondelshtam was, read his elements, and she sitting in the hall. and she was clearly surprised at how cunningly he did it all. ekaterina a. i want to return to the conversation about the heroine, olga. could she have gone according to some other scenario. well, yes, what could happen to such a heroine, or uh , this is exactly how it could all end, listen, but this is such an image of a destroyer, and she destroys what we have already said, like other people's lives. well, it’s logical that she should destroy herself, that is, it’s very difficult to imagine that this woman will suddenly start making borscht or go, uh, serve some kind of soviet service, and she serves the soviet

government. yes, we have our own secret. she has her own secretary. she serves herself. quite so, as we understand from some book, well, he occupies a high position and does not know how to do anything. at the same time , he doesn’t know how to do anything and i think that in general, we don’t do anything. and without even pretending that she is doing something and not trying. well, understand that she had to finish the way she did, and it seems to me that her death with these candies that haunt me is so paradoxical, because she is cheerful. she somehow tastes it on one side, like candy. she tastes it. and at the same time, she is dying in earnest and, for sure, she is still experiencing incredible agony, because she is undergoing surgery and it is written there that they are not giving her anesthesia. that is, can you imagine this operation on the spine, how painful it is, and she is preserving hers. actually. here's this pose to the end. she keeps playing in death. by the way,

there is such a trick there, or something, where the heroes come running, oh yes, he rushes to her to save her, and he comes running. and it says that she missed. and here we read or exhale that okay, she missed. she won't die. yes, that's why he dies anyway. well, even when she calls, you think it’s a joke, right? just kidding, but it turns out not. why? this is the heroine, she’s cute, she takes money, for example, she’ll collect 15,000 dollars per night. yes, from this merchant philip she probably threw them away. fire that is. it seems to me that any person with such a character fascinates me. this is not a woman, but just some kind of tornado, but she is not selfish. this is exactly the style, this is a gesture, and they come to the charity lottery and buy it for her.

eh, actually, dokuchaev in the village, then terskotel vases, when i approached them at this fair, and with these vases, and an absolutely stunning episode when this woman’s thighs are full of telephone, what is she doing with the telephone number? yes, but they don’t understand dokuchaev doesn’t understand at all what olga is doing. yes, remember. yes yes such and such number such and such dokuchaev please hear me. this lady has exactly the same phone number, she mocks and you can also imagine what kind of faith in her feminine power. this is amazing, i think she's real. well, that’s fatal, she’s even a dominatrix, that is, she humiliates men so easily. naturally, men are completely subjugated and subordinate to this. in general , the rules that dictate and volga doesn’t even care about what vladimir has got for himself mistress pear. this one, on the contrary, is in every possible way

pushing for this, of course, she started caviar, as it says two two hearts. what legs? yes, but it seems to me that he is going to this morfusha. eh, as ekaterina correctly noted, because olga told him, go to this morfusha, as you may not appreciate. here are her beautiful full legs, and he actually does it. just like a puppet, isn't it? yes, and get married. how wonderful she is to marry him this year they will drown me. it's good that you offered me something to get married, that, well, they will sleep together, then she says. well, no, you are bad cold, but nothing cold, like hunger, also play a very important role among cynics. yes, yes, and in general in the life of the brings, they had such an episode with yesenin. they decided to write large dramatic poems specifically for the entire gadfly swords of merhold. yes, yesenin wrote

pugachev barenkov wrote a conspiracy of fights. yes, but as they wrote, all this, and they had a room and a bathroom, and in the room, no matter how they tried to heat it, nothing worked. was it was very cold, then they didn’t move the desk into the bathroom, but locked themselves there when they had already written all this, it all needs to be transferred to printed texts. and yes, they asked an acquaintance of the typist’s office to come and retype all this, and then they realized. well, there’s a lady, yes, she’s also like that in her body, it’s cold, you can’t think of anything bad, yes, but it’s warming , she’ll lie down in bed for 15-20 minutes and warm this bed with her body, so that, uh, then they don’t go to bed in cold linen . but already warmed up, this girl walked and she sealed it, lay there, warmed the bed for them and left, and so on for several days, and then she

disappeared and yesenin’s brig was searched for a long time in moscow. well, what is it? yes, they communicated normally, worked normally, paid money regularly, and after a couple of months they find her and ask. why are they saying this? well, i thought you were poets, and you were monks, but they didn’t offend attention. you asked about life in orengoy. in proton, how much he coincides with his heroes. is this a cynical approach or not? no, he seems like a very kind person. he is very attentive to the hero and in order to be so attentive and so... well, let’s say that we show their feelings in detail and convincingly. he still has to be, well, those who are merciful need to see this person in another. and he doesn’t blame them at all. that is, it gives people freedom to be who they want to be. it's great. and this is very unusual and the price tags in this sense are like this. well,

roman ekaterina is also unique, but we would agree. for example, you should adapt this story into a film or somehow rework it, but you know the most important thing for me. in my opinion, it’s important there is text here, and the text is very difficult to put. i don't really understand how to translate it. eh hmm yes, this is too literature to shift it. eh, well, the plot itself, well, if you take it, but this plot of the love triangle has been described a lot. and in general, well, the plot itself is dramatic and harlequin, yes, of course, well , it just seems to me that, first of all, there is no price tag for fools. people are smart. in general, all these people, they are all curious, they are all very

hmm, bright, bright characters and very different. and this is probably what attracts everyone, i think, well, i don’t know how to translate this into other languages , as the novel is written. and the most valuable thing for me is language. well, i agree that the language is stunning, it is unique, it is impossible to repeat it, it is not like anyone else, not in poetry or in prose, as we understand it, it surprises me that arenuringov wrote, well, dozens of plays of all kinds and he had where some are successful, for example, the fool of the balaguere or the birth of a poet. yes, at one time they staged plays with great success, the golden hoop, which he wrote together with mikhail cossack sr., and the father of a famous actor. yes, a large drama theater was opening in moscow. yes, that is, and as a playwright, um, well, he was successful.

yes, he had everything in this regard, and after his death, in our time they make a film and put on plays, according to the price tag, somehow most of all for some reason, the famous one left the most probably, the boldest trace is such a cultural one, if you look at it in time, yes already as if, if you lay it out according to the timeline, yes, it turns out that price tags most often paradoxically never know, yes, some work will sound in time, so thank you very much for the interesting conversation. this was a must-read podcast. i am the main thing, the director, the writers. my guests were the director ekaterina dvegubskaya and oleg dimidov, a literary scholar, poet, and critic. we talked about the novel by anatoly maringov cynics.

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veronica stands shining at us. i got a gift of money. ding-ding bell well, amazing, now, dear friends. we just realized that we are in an incredible metaphysical dimension. evgenia valerievna was born in the city where

dostoevsky got married. in what city did dostoevsky get married? program? who wants to become a millionaire channel one he is in novokuznetsk and then in kuznetsk the magnificent old town in maternity hospital number one, which uh, is located next to the novokuznetsk drama theatre. well, you moved, then with your parents to kemerovo. yes, but it was stuffy for you there, your voice was there, it had nothing to do with it. yes, and he required no, quite the opposite. there was plenty of room for me there. let's compare, that is, it is not comparable at all, even among professionals. but i'm not sure that i understand it very well. i never needed it, but i didn't need to know that my voice would not be repeated. well, how is this perfectionism in everything

? i want to get to the very essence, but it manifested itself in others, it manifested itself, but in the way i wrote music, the way i was creative in general. i wrote music. in general, i really loved music. in general, i think that i will be a composer, he showed up. i played the piano showed in the way i play the piano. this is where you fill the russian romance. that is, with passion, the love that he should be filled with? where did you get this from? but i think artistry is a natural talent, so to speak. but actually, here i have to thank everyone. uh, viktor vrosevich titov our director. and for the first time i sang a romance for the film life by the klimas of gena and in fact he insisted that i sing romances, because then i only sang folk songs of folklore, i was sure, and i argued all the time and well, not so much, of course. uh, well, i say it all the time. let me sing you a native song for this film. i’m better at it, but he

asked for a romance. i didn't know what it would sound like. hmm, moreover, my school had some such musical experiences, when i drank a romance, uh, the teacher told me, never in life is not caught by romances. yes, but luckily i didn’t listen to her. i washed down the romances. and when i sang for the first time, who recorded it and now i don’t remember what it was like, i heard it. eh, i liked it so much, and essentially speaking, the title in e. he sawed this paradigm for me, and thanks to this opportunity, i learned to sing romances. as a matter of fact, in one recording i learned to sing romances, because romance cannot exist without the theater. so let's not stray too far from this topic. yes, i ask you at your discretion evgeniy valerievich listen, it’s not for us here to dictate that you i

was driving home, my soul was full of some new happiness that was unclear to me, it seemed to me that everyone was looking at me with such sympathy and affection. eh, home, i watched the moon along the channel, boredly, deeply, at the distant blagovest beyond the morning ringing. century in the air

a fiery string a-ah, pink, the beauty said she woke up and a swallow with three from somewhere into the distance in the clear air. okay , home, i thought you would be, but my thought will be us. the sweetness has touched my drowsiness,

hasn’t it? if never there is everything here if, no, deception and devils, love and fears are flowers, look and even how it is present in your orchestration, but you need this voice, which the voice we are leading tells us that it was the woman who changed him and now she is going with repentance or without repentance to

her husband who shamed her. i have a different story. and what do you mean, this is not even a plot. this is an image, because for some reason this romance is dedicated to the murderers in mine, you know , some kind of female hopelessness, maybe this kind of incompassion is completely a woman. there is discord in the soul. this is a tragedy. this is the absence of paths, in the end, and leaving is something else. it’s strange, can you imagine, i’m crying. i’m going through this, and i’m crying, it’s normal. in general, i think this is exactly where i consider my strength, not only in the voice, but precisely in the ability to experience, but the russian romance, as a genre, allows you to go through these experiences. who

showed it to you? this revealed the secret of russian songs and russian romance. well, i’ll say, uh, viktor titov and we recorded going to the fair, at least merchant there was a tragic song. it would seem . yes, but in art it doesn’t happen that way, so everyone has fun. but i just couldn’t do it. she uh, that's it. time had to be dynamic. eh, hmm, it somehow intensifies to reach some kind of cat. the song of tragedy should have been there, but my folk aesthetics didn’t work out for me. you didn’t allow such openness to emerge and titov will give him an image. well, actually, what can you say, do it this way or do it that way , it’s better to paint a picture, but for me it’s better picture and he said in that same voice, you know, when dinara asanova was buried. e didn’t sound chopin didn’t sound mozart sounded vladimir

vysotsky sounded a little slower than the horse and when he said that, i understood everything how to sing. we want to listen and enjoy. well, then i won’t sing a romance, and then the romance will be good. it’s been a long time since my wounds passed the mowed mint of hurray i

’ll lose the swaying of its shore, as again white hands can’t walk all the way across the bridge, but it’s better in the name of wet sounds in memory. i took. the last separation is worth the sounds and it washes in water with my white hands, and i owe my debt to her. i would say who she is singing in

the meadow, standing on the other side like a mermaid on a hole and getting rid of a handsome man on his finger. ring dear friends, this is the incomparable evgenia smolyaninov anthropology podcast on

channel one. this is an anthropology podcast before our first guest is evgeniy smolyaninov. well , we need to know who is visiting with you today. we have yuri chevin in our studio. very nice dambrist. e f. pletist. how can i say this? eh, a man who speaks buzuluk cartoon, so i see him standing there it's worth more and that's all the folk song. yes they do. i wouldn’t limit myself to just folk music; we play different types of music ; in general, we can play different types of music at home.

because we remembered how it all happened. and we started working when my musical style changed, or rather, not that it changed, but some new direction, new songs appeared. and i hmm really wanted to go back to the drums, remember how boring it is to play romances and folk songs on some hello please, well, it’s so subtle. eh, texture, what do i need? vice versa? this is interesting. it’s not all about flamenco. well, here’s mikhail smirnov for those who haven’t yet figured out who he is? uh, here, uh, and uh, svyatoslav smolyaninov. this is not a namesake. e. eh, this is my son, yes. in my opinion absolutely fantastic components. you can hear it. but no, this hmm horror isn’t

nature resting as it should be for you. no, you don’t need to achieve so much for yourself. yes, but it 's impossible. this is impossible, zhenya , but there is a voice there. slava was always offered to drink even when he was little, when he was still small and his voice had not yet mutated. uh, he i amused myself by portraying my tall violets, so to speak. from which everyone concluded that he would be a singer, but in this sense, nature did not give, nature never rests, but she gave rest. uh glory, and he already uh, there is absolutely no need to sing, and no matter how you think about it. but here we are, for example , with the audience. can i speak for two people ? if you can, by the way , work, but you know how he works very

poorly. and how does it work, in general, you are already quite an adult. to tell about sometimes in good company, in good company , in a good mood. fame spoils us with songs, this happens extremely rarely. well, since you are silent and since i, as a front cop, have to say everything and not imagine, yes , then, and my own guitar school, yes, and slava is a psychologist, and therefore he is his wonderful bass rehearsed by students of clients, if you treat people in this rather complex internet century, and what is this? for example , the voice of the lady, ismalin. well, maybe it’s a drug against stress, it’s not like this and that’s how you listen evgeniy valerievich well, well, straight, this

i'll tell you that grace was born in the fact that i never wanted to be an actress or singer . i wanted to treat people. yes , i have, uh, my technique, and i do voice therapy. that's what you didn't feel, well, some of the archaic nature of your hobby. here are the folk songs, after all, when you wrote yours, well, after all, you were probably on par. time and all these songs of yours are 200 years old, first of all, they’re old, you can’t let them down, well, stay with me, yes, but one day, yes, and folk songs are a thousand and more and more moreover, no one knows exactly the time of origin. ah, and they can say so out of time, that you are so young, a beautiful river, they prematurely

signed up as grandmothers when they chose a folk song as a plan and a romance. and they are like grandmothers, what about you, and i, you know, i followed in some respect, and i will follow in the footsteps of my beloved andrei tarkovsky, whom i loved very much literally as a child, i loved andrei rublev. and rublev is nostalgia. eh, solaris we’re colliding everything. everything was important to me. it was important to me. this is the swaying herbs. this is all aesthetics, all a mirror. everything, everything, it. maybe not so , it was deeply clear to me then, but it attracted me very much and uh, when i met olga sergeevna , by the way, a folk singer who is from the pskov region, uh, south, pskov region and uh. her voice sounded in tarkovsky’s picture, nostalgia, he took her voice, her song, and she sang, is she a professional singer or is she a resident you say, but she,

authentic is not the right word, but she you know, she is beyond these boundaries grandmothers uh, other grandmothers are grandmothers and let's put it this way arch-archive, a whole archive, there, a whole repertoire. olga fedoseevna. sergeeva is a performer. this is the beauty of execution. this is a unique voice that is impossible. well, it was even impossible not to duplicate in any way, nor to monkey around with. and so i followed the trail, because when it all merged, tarkovsky olga sergeeva, i realized that i was probably on the way. well, somehow my life also worked out. i also sang in films and uh, and acted a little and so somehow it seemed to me that i was going in the right direction. your

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