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the official representative of the foreign ministry, ambassador maria zakharova maria, thank you very much for taking the time. you are now at the eastern economic forum in vladivostok. the first thing i want to ask you about is what happened in new delhi at the g20. it’s not for me to tell you that, in general , very few people predicted that russia would be able to maintain a great diplomatic victory, that even in the absence of putin from sinzingen, and the collective west would absolutely not succeed insist on your agenda, if you want to turn any international meeting into a comradely lynching of russia, how did you manage to avoid this turn of events.
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hello, dmitry vladivostok, in touch, active work is really starting at the economic forum in vladivostok, i would also like to say that russian foreign minister sergeevich lavrov arrived here today at the end of his next tour, and work on the east asian summits was on the agenda in indonesia in jakarta, then bilateral negotiations in bangladesh and then participation in the summit at the head of the russian delegation, and in delhi the twenty themselves. now regarding your congratulations on our diplomatic victory. well, it’s always nice to receive congratulations. but you know, this is the very case when i would not like to divide this victory into the victory of ours and not ours, much less assign it only to russia. i congratulate everyone. the whole world
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of every individual person on planet earth is no less with what happened. this is a common victory. this is a victory for the world majority. this is the victory of common sense over anti-logic. this is the victory of culture over anticulture of creation over destruction. this is a continuation of the very turning point that dmitry and i spoke about a couple of weeks ago, when we were dismantling the houses, brix yourself remember, but justice, and multipolarity, and that a turning point has taken place. this is a fixation of the very new updated world order that is coming. somewhere it has already arrived. it comes somewhere. the realization of the inevitability of its onset began to break stereotypes. i 'm talking about the west now, but this is reality, from
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which can no longer be denied and can no longer be turned away. now, even within the g20, the seven western countries cannot turn away from reality. what exactly is this turning point and turning point about? that the dictatorship of the minority is becoming history. the fact that imposing the point of view of one group of countries on other countries is no longer possible does not work. this is a turning point in that the era and eras of centuries-old destruction of exploitation and placing injustice on a pedestal are being replaced by a new era of creation. collective work for the benefit of people and unconditional respect for justice and truth.
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yes, of course, these are lofty goals and it will take quite a long time to achieve them and it will not be easy, just like everything that really requires effort has to go on a difficult road, so it will be this time too. but the most important thing is that these goals are fixed in a colossal document and adopted. this declaration has dozens of points. i suggest it to everyone. some may not believe our words today or want to see for themselves. just read this document at a specialist will be needed and occupied. this is quite a long time. i think i can read this for a week or two. and maybe even with refer to specialized literature. there are a lot of complex words there, but no one, be it specialist experts or a non-specialist person far from international relations , will have any doubts. that again, the key word of this document was the word justice
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, a more just multilateral international world order. everything you said, i completely agree with it. but i i think you will not be maliciously modest in denying that, uh, this document does not hold russia responsible for the crisis around ukraine, there is no such expression as uh, there is no russian aggression, unlike some previous documents, demands for russia to immediately liberate allegedly occupied territories . and i think that, of course, is common sense. this is very good. but for some reason i think that you are your colleagues, and you also worked on this. let's see what sergei lavrov said about this . thanks to uh such a consolidated position the global south
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succeeded in protecting its legitimate interests. uh, prevent the attempt from succeeding. the west will again ukrainize the entire agenda to the detriment of discussing the urgent problems of developing countries and it is indicative that e. they call it the ukrainian paragraph, it is included and is the subject of consensus, but it is not about ukraine, and there the ukrainian crisis is mentioned, but exclusively in the context of the need to resolve all the conflicts that exist in the world, uh, the settlement of these conflicts. uh, according to everyone goals and principles of the charter, it is in their entirety and interrelation. it is very important. my question is very simple. how did you manage to achieve this ? i mean the entire russian delegation and what role did
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indian prime minister modi play in this? well, firstly, i emphasized that during this press conference of sergeevich lavrova during communication with the press, and hmm , mrs. svetlana lukashi, who is , well, truly the talisman of the twenty, by and large. well, what is there, and walking around near the origins of creatures for many years, but is, but one of the centers. but this is the creative beginning of expert work. and so, they said that a colossal amount of time, not only in this final part, but throughout the whole year, was spent on preparing this document. this is not a week-long document, so to speak, but a week-long drafting period , it took a whole year to work on, and as you correctly said, a large number of experts and uh, so to speak, through the sherpa line and through the representatives of the ministry of foreign affairs there was
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a collective interdepartmental infusion. well-coordinated work is the first point, and the second is sergeyevich lavrov. i would like to draw your attention to the beginning with words of gratitude to the indian chairmanship, which provided working conditions and, most importantly, that same creative constructive atmosphere and directly to your original question. how did this happen? what is this destructive logic? this absolutely artificial ukrainization of everything and everyone in the american way did not work. you won’t believe it, dmitry, but this was precisely the most popular question from western journalists, which they asked the russian delegation. in short, they formulated it like this: how did you manage to do this and here the russian delegation , russian representatives were unanimous in the fact that this is a collective work. and whoever reads the declaration itself will understand that
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the fundamental principle that is laid down. this document says that they need to move away from the work of the twenty and not only the work of the twenty, but also all world processes from artificial politicization, which artificial politicization concerns. it concerns the environment regional crises concern finance. it harms, it takes the world in the other direction, that’s why so much has been said about the reform of international monetary institutions, that ’s why so much has been said about returning the environmental agenda to the scientific correct logical direction. they use it, that’s why so much is said, and you rule this imbalance, which has developed due to the artificial politicization of the entire international agenda. and, of course, this is the will of brix, who over the past year and a half and before that over the past decades and on his own experience has survived centuries. this is
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what is now called there. western domination is destructive by the logic of segregation, and so on and so forth, and which put their participation in national participation as an association. in particular, brix as a member of the twenty as new world centers is a point in the discussion of the question of how not to be unipolar or multipolar, the multipolar world is already becoming maria e, of course, there was a very important role of sergei viktorovich lavrov, of course, the premier of india in fashion. e also played a role. but i wanted to ask you about the representatives of the collective west. did they have to accept the inevitable, or do you have the impression that they, too, suddenly developed constructive flexibility. they uh dmitry there is such a word, and demoralization
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they are demoralized, they are absolutely normalized. they understand that it is time for this very aggressive uh logic of aggression of an overt illegal attack. and nato on i don’t know the world, how is the world economic relations at home on uh, i don’t know on the countries that are ahead of them in development, which have their own agenda. it is disappearing before their eyes. you know this one, like watching sand in an hourglass. all that's left are the last seconds. this is me, i don’t know what will happen next. they are not ready to live not by their own rules. they are not ready to live. pope general rules this will require a radical restructuring from them. by the way, they so supported the restructuring of the eighties in the soviet union , it’s time for them to rebuild and the last question. uh
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, less uh, nice about uh, armenia and the conduct of uh, maneuvers by the united states military. although very modest in size, but as they say in such cases, eh, the madness has begun. how do you view armenia's behavior towards russia recently? well, this topic was commented on yesterday by russian foreign minister sergeyevich lavrov , who directly said that the accusations that are being made by representatives of the political establishment nearby are from yerevan; they correspond to reality when they shift responsibility. and some even almost accuse our country of those i know mistakes, miscalculations or failures. uh, which, in fact, were the result of their specific steps. he called it unfair. i mean, the head of the russian.
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mida, as you know, unfortunately, we were forced to call the ambassador of armenia in connection with a number of actions that are clearly not aimed at implementing the friendly allied course outlined in our doctrinal documents. and it has been implemented in practice for many decades. you know how russia came to the rescue not just from time to time, but simply for decades on a daily basis. chemical humanitarian aid, and of course. each time i became the very mediator who did everything to save people as a result of the conflict, of course, we are talking about nagorno-karabakh. eh, the conflict turned into a settlement and this is russia’s business and this is not in words and not within the framework of some symbolic teachings. for example, you just gave an example, and as concrete deeds and investments of your own
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heart in the future of the country in this region. i just really want to hope that in yerevan understand. and that russia is a native, if you want a player, uh, in this uh situation , in which armenia found itself carried away largely by the force of the decisions of its own leadership, i ’m trying to imagine e how uh, armenia a go to nato despite the predictable categorical protest of turkey a turkey is quite capable of blocking this. you have hope that common sense will still prevail among them. you know , i believe that in fact this topic is for the society in armenia for civil society so that the people of armenia solve these questions with that management. to whom he delegated not just power and responsibility, but his own life.
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this, uh, in my opinion, is very well said, and i understand that this is not a situation where in your role representatives of the meade, uh, it would be appropriate to give emotional uh assessments, but as if in my role as an observer, i have what -it seems that someone there, uh, has problems with basic logic, probably. mmm, and this and it can be done differently. i mean, i 'm talking about expert assessments now. someone expresses this opinion, someone sees some other questions, but i want to return to the words of sergei pcha lavrov that were spoken and which are shared by so many diplomats and experts. you need to be able to take responsibility for the steps taken. this is what separates the politicians who came, and for a while for a day for a month for a year
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, from statesmen who think about their country and about their kind. well, again , i will hope that this is a sense of responsibility. a-and will appear in yerevan and what is this what they say, now they are often unreasonable and unfair, that this is some kind of their the emotional reaction is some kind of internal political game. they mean a more serious strategic turn , which i am afraid, first of all, would cost armenia dearly. i ask dmitry, i see that he won’t let you go and i understand why, but as they say, you yourself asked for it. come on, then i’ll still answer and say what you expect from me, and you know, i think that this whole situation has, how to say a test word, you know in russian there is such a
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concept as a test word, it’s very simple , you need to look , where and when for the last. well, let's take at least 30 years, the united states of america was able to improve the internal and external situation, resolve the conflict, and restore order. i don't know how to create conditions for internal growth. well, i don’t know the economic indicators of social uh, any guarantees. well, where are these examples. i don’t know them, you don’t know them. you and i don’t know them. not because we read little or don’t have a wide circle of friends. but about themselves there are none. this must be remembered by those who assign, not just responsibility or but pinning hopes on, but who delegate their destiny and the fate of his people to washington. maria thank you so much for the interview. thank you for everything you do and every success at
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game is on air let's return to the conversation about the just ended g20 meeting in new delhi. and secretary of state blinkin after the meeting was completed, he announced let's listen to what he announced about russia's approach to the negotiations. as for negotiations, it takes two to tango and so far we have not seen any signs of interest in diplomacy from vladimir putin. if he shows interest, then i think the ukrainians will be the first. who will enter into negotiations, and we will support them? everyone wants the military conflict to end, but it must end on fair long-term terms that reflect the sovereignty and territorial integrity of ukraine in answer. and dmitry peskov, but
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putin is not so ready. this is completely from our point of view not true, but speaking of readiness to negotiate. we must be aware of the realities that have emerged since march last year. and if ukraine could negotiate on the terms of march last year, now we cannot ignore the new conditions. we cannot abstract ourselves from the territory of the russian federation; we cannot abstract ourselves from the processes that have taken place in the new regions of russia; we cannot abstract from the outpouring of population in these new regions, these are all new conditions that cannot be ignored. a very famous talented director and, to our great joy, a regular participant in our program, and the king heard an absentee dispute between the us secretary of state and the press of the russian president, what do you think? i think that the secretary of the russian president is absolutely
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right, because, well, there must be some real topic of negotiations, that is, blinkin’s statement. this is a kind of abstraction of nothing concrete and the heart said correctly that that, well, we must take into account the realities of today; the realities are such that four regions became part of russia. we have not heard anything from the opposite side about this. i also agree with dmitry peskov. and i agreed with him for the same reasons that were mentioned. you, but there is one more circumstance that seems important to me. russia does not put forward any preconditions for the start of negotiations, including the recognition that the new region is part of russia as a condition for the start of negotiations. no, this is not russia’s position. that's when
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uh, secretary of state shah talks about zelensky’s readiness for negotiations, but i think he’s being disingenuous. otherwise, we must assume that he himself does not know some basic things, zelensky demands as a condition for starting negotiations. unconditional withdrawal of russian troops from all territories that russia considers its own , including crimea and donbass, punishment of so-called russian war criminals and payment of reparations to ukraine. and uh, recognition that sanctions will not be lifted until these reparations are paid and ukraine is not will receive a refund. but the damage from their point of view. she suffered as a result of russian actions, but dmitry dmitry drozdenko
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is a famous military expert and, to our great pleasure, also became a regular participant in our program. it seems to me that everything that is formulated. e zelensky is not a position for negotiations. this demand for unconditional surrender says that when russia rejects unconditional surrender. she thereby refuses to negotiate. i think a little smaller at least not fair. this is, indeed, zelensky’s position. let's just say she is very stubborn and really demands that russia give up , repent, sprinkle ashes on her head and give up all her money. eh, this gentleman, ah, but the whole thing, in fact, it’s even worse in ukraine ; negotiations with russia are prohibited by law, that is, this is a paradox. in general, whether the legal
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blinken knows about this or not, this is the tenth question. well, it seems to me that the us secretary of state should know or his advisers should tell him this, but here, as it were, when things go don’t really swallow, they always start talking about negotiations about how things are going with them. eh, really not very good in this situation. this, by the way, was also recognized by zelensky, uh, and stoltenberg was also recognized by everyone. in fact, he admitted half a million victims, half a million, by remaining silent, uh, to a remark from the audience at the hearing. that is, this is the situation: russia does not set any preconditions, even verbal ones are correct, because well, the wider the entrance to the negotiations. process, the more can be achieved in the process of maneuvering by narrowing, bringing closer positions. that is, this is actually more correct from the uh, negotiating position from a diplomatic point of view, what zelensky expresses, he, roughly speaking, uh , is cutting himself in the same way as once, uh, hmm, representatives
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of the european union said that victory should be achieved only on the battlefield, that these dick well, how are they, but these dictators are bad, that is , hmm politics, generally literate. well, i shouldn’t set myself any kind of boundaries, even verbal ones, but in this situation it’s difficult for zelensky to call him something, and in this situation it’s already difficult to call him a politician situations. uh, most of his speeches show uh, hysterical notes on this or that topic, as i said from the political problems with refugees in ukraine that they will stage a riot, ending with what actually admitted admits. eh, a difficult situation with its offensive, especially in the southern direction. and therefore pay attention to his words in the context of possible negotiations. i think it’s not really worth it, especially since we don’t need these negotiations right now and it’s not profitable. he says let’s listen to what zelensky said about this problem. e refugees and what kind
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of difficulties these refugees can create for europe. what if the maximum demands of ukraine are not met? let's listen. i have an intuition. i read, hear and see their eyes. we will always be with you, he speaks english, but i understand that he or she is not there. here with us now, he spreads his hands in a gesture of disappointment. and with several of his western allies, including america , holding elections next year, zelensky knows that maintaining current levels of support will be difficult, especially in the absence without significant progress on the front, curtailing western aid to ukraine will only lead to a prolongation of the war, zelensky argues, and this will create risks for the west in its own backyard. it is impossible to predict how millions of ukrainian refugees in european countries will react if their country is abandoned by ukrainians as a whole. tbilis are doing well and are very grateful to those who sheltered them, they will not forget this generosity, but it will not be a good story for europe if it legislates
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these people in the corner. this looks like a cheap bluff, that’s what i want to say. this is a check, yes, yes, if this is not blackmail, it is precisely that this is blackmail, this is blackmail, really, well, yes, this is blackmail. eh, it’s obvious to me that blackmail has no basis. in my opinion. there is no reason, first of all, uh, ukrainians. these are not representatives, so to speak, but i don’t want to offend anyone. well, let's just say, not so to speak, there are much more uh, let's say in the world there are more, but more organized, more aggressive communities. what the migrant community faces. what they immediately encounter is strange. west ukrainians. no, they actually belong to these, no matter what happens. i think most of the ukrainians who left will be dissatisfied, but many. i think many were built, but
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there will be no consequences for europe for this, unfortunately, maybe, by the way, for my taste. maybe he's too sophisticated. snobby, but it seems to me that when you are in the position of a taker and when you do not refuse the hand of the giver and try to convince the giver to give you even more. basically, blackmail him at the same time. this is not the most let's say. so. uh, noble and not the most pragmatic, but they themselves raised it, so why are the russians themselves? they themselves raised zelensky as a phenomenon. how exactly? this they encouraged this in every possible way. well, they got what they got. and so, indeed, this is generally pure blackmail
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; it says that this is indecent. that's putting it mildly. this is not accepted at all. i don’t know how the west will react to this at all. actually, we need to react to this. but most likely they will miss it. what is happening from your point of view on the fronts, a well, the ministry of defense, in general, gives a very positive report on the work, let ’s listen. in the zaporizhzhya direction, units of the russian group of troops, with aviation strikes, artillery fire and heavy flamethrower systems, repelled the attack of the forty-seventh mechanized brigade of the ukrainian armed forces in the area of the settlement, work in the zaporozhye region, destroyed up to 145 ukrainian military personnel, two tanks, three cars and a british- made anti-aircraft missile system stormar hvm, but of course , this uh, seems to say, who is the ministry of defense they think it was destroyed. e of ukraine, this does not
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talk about what losses russia suffered in the process, which is quite correct , they do not talk about their losses during the war. well, this also does not address, but the statement of western military experts, or at least people who are brought on television as military experts, that after all, the ukrainian armed forces, including in the region , managed to work a little not much progress, but supposedly enough so that hope does not die, your opinion, but dmitry your words, really. but it’s true that they managed to advance further south of our work, but in fact , our troops retreated completely to the a-a line of defense, which is located along the uh, ridge. uh, they also made attacks to try to push us out of that line of defense. this did not work out, but the battles are incredibly difficult, and
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, of course, there are losses. e on both sides, but the difference is in losses. eh, the defending troops are still huge, they have prepared the cells significantly. above, uh, well, it’s not just technology, uh, and not just people. uh, just in fact, working on this became a new artemovsk bakhmut, you know, that is, this is, uh, a meat grinder, which acquired the same , let’s say, effect. that is, where it is actually being ground, prepared, including britain at the ramstein a training ground. ukrainian units are trained at a fairly high level, as they believe in the west. in addition, it became more active. eh, the battles themselves are all around. uh, artyomovsk kleshcheevka and the like, that is , there, uh, the situation changes from hand to hand and the same as in the northern direction, that is now and the battles for the last week. eh, they seriously intensified. basically. this is probably the last one before the coming
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thaws due to the cold, but a strong offensive, because then, even if ukraine has reserves and opportunities, the weather will begin to interfere, that is, the weather itself will disperse. uh, warring troops. eh, by definition, zelenka will leave, which means everyone will become open, but he is in hiding. he, uh, initially has an advantage over those who are trying to attack. i had, well, like , say, uh, a couple of competent military men. and they admit that russian troops have become workers. true, they say that there is nothing more to leave there, because there was definitely nothing more to leave there, but they say, and i would like your comments, that there was no breakthrough in the russian defense. and what was e if you want, by order? and a small tactical one, if you want
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a withdrawal, and of russian units from one position to another, that’s what we’re talking about. not always about kilometers, but sometimes hundreds of meters. and so it is, the troops were withdrawn, just to the first line of defense, which is based precisely on excesses. not so much there. and the high elevation is somewhere from 30 to 70 m, but, nevertheless. um, in this situation. this gives a certain advantage. again from a point of view. e artillery work, well, in general, from the point of view of fire work, it is in shelters. no, not only from working on all settlements that are in the zone of active hostilities. there's really nothing left. that is, dmitrievich brought clarity to our viewers. i won't exaggerate if i say that this is what happens at work. has nothing to do with the retreat that took place a year ago in the kharkov area. e absolutely not relevant
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, just to clarify. i’m talking about the scale, and here it’s not just the scale, what happened on the side, it was a big problem for our troops, both traditional and military and regular, and uh, in general, not only the inability of certain formations. uh, there are enough famous ones to fight, but uh, let’s say it’s not the inability to command them, but the absence. e. well, it’s like the beginning of the forty-first year, when the troops marched without ammunition without command, when everything everything was ruined now the situation. i would say forty-three. that is, when we know how to fight, we have rear reserves , that is, uh, we have other fighters, that is, uh, and other and other commanders, sometimes there are certain problems on the ground, but uh, they are the minimum relevant authorities for these problematic i hope they do, but mostly, mostly. uh, for the most part, our troops know how
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to fight, our pilots know how to fly. our tankers and artillerymen know how to shoot; there are already a huge number of cases, plus we modernized our troops. well, i don’t mean that it appeared there globally. something new technology yes, some drones, uh, including uh, fpv. eh, they don’t just create. eh, terror on the battlefield. the americans have already begun to notice this, and in their analytical notes they are even beginning to change the strategy for the development of their armored component, that is, the other day , the americans abandoned the production of those already ready for mass production. eh, hmm abrams saddles four. that is, it’s just the latest modification of the abrams and they said, that’s it we will continue to redo the tank, it’s too heavy. this is not this, this is not that, ukraine has shown that abramson will not live long. let us listen to what the english newspaper telegraph says about the course of hostilities in ukraine, those who follow it. this is
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a newspaper, to put it mildly, very unfriendly to russia, let’s listen to their assessment. ukraine's time is running out after 18 months of war , the question is no longer whether the union will be shaken by the west, but when this will happen from the very beginning, despite the correct statement and the delivery of equipment to france to germany. reluctant partners, the united states, which provides the lion's share of support to ukraine, is the main protagonist in this war. however, from the first days, president biden also played for time, providing military assistance and only enough for ukraine to continue to fight, but obviously insufficient for victory. and at the present time, but simply public opinion, both in europe and in the united states, shows that support military aid to kiev is falling, and according to one of the latest polls, less than 50% of americans are in favor of additional funding for zelin’s obviously aware that the support tipping point is approaching. west it after inaction can testify. and some are anxious. he jailed the allegedly corrupt oligarch and former governor igor kolomoisky, his longtime ally and
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supporter at the height of the war. he fired defense minister alexei reznikov, again on the basis of corruption charges. however, nothing will change anything. no amount of strategic adjustment can turn the tide of the war without a dramatic increase in military aid. that's how the koran uh, this assessment is very reluctant and clearly and even more impressive. well, what do you think, here are the hopes in the west that russia can emerge from the war. and they will also supply, uh, f-16 long-range missiles. and well, in general, uh, someone in moscow , maybe the authorities, but maybe the public. now, i don't know who. well, he’ll say as much as possible and let’s negotiate and some exact conditions will also be of secondary importance. what do you think of these western reliables? i think
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their arrogance melts like ice cream, but on an autumn day not on a summer day, that is, quite slowly, but it is obvious that it is melting, because in general, i absolutely cannot understand this. this is how they have been brought up for 30 years. so i hear these, how we we we trained the ukrainian soldiers of the armed forces. i keep thinking, well, actually, how can you train them, if the ukrainian armed forces have been fighting for 8 years already, and have been waging a brutal war for a year and a half. they can train you, but they have the feeling that they are, as they say. they don’t understand at all, not russia. well, at least look into history, this is absolutely true. as they say, the madness is that with happens to them, but for me in general. i have to say, you know? i sometimes think,
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if only the west had not announced any sanctions, but , on the contrary, would have embraced us in its hot embrace. i think 10 years and they would have received us absolutely warm, for about 10 years everything that happened. this would lead them to choose exactly the path that is impossible to choose with russia. look again, russian people. the russian nation is at a time when it feels mortal danger. and today she feels mortal danger, despite what seems to be quite so to speak, our peaceful life, but this is a completely different war, but we understand it, what we are talking about, well, at these moments, the russian nation, like no other, has no ability to survive, not a single nation in the world that is capable of for these fantastic efforts of the intellect.
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this is organizationally correct, as always, we have a mess in the beginning there is something like this - this is an ordinary story, but , but in general, look, but the country is really changing in many ways and this is not this this would not have been possible in that life past. here i am yesterday with my friend, he is an aviator and has been working in aviation for a long time. he tells me, listen, you know, ours began to produce glass for civilian aircraft, i say, what did they produce? they produced it back in soviet times, well, recently they bought it in canada, he says now they produce this glass in a garage better than what was in the soviet era time. you see, it’s like this , drop by drop, while drops you understand, everything is changing, country, country. suddenly it turns out that the country has a huge intellectual inventive potential and all this affects both at the front and guidance, so to speak, and inside the country, but i absolutely don’t understand how these people are there,
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if there was a really smart person there, he would say, you know what, on the contrary , i don’t need that , vice versa. let's cancel everything. on the contrary, let's give them everything 10 years, unfortunately, we have a different trait, as soon as we relax. we know how to lose everything in the world, and in front of us. this happens all the time, but at the moment of such tension there is not a single nation that is capable of such fantastic achievements in general. this is some kind of phenomenon, in my opinion. here it is, in my opinion. this is being demonstrated today, so those on and and and still there begin to understand it not immediately, but they will understand it and i am convinced of it. the big game is on air, we're going to advertise , we'll be back in just a few minutes. there is no one to treat hospital number two of mariupol was under the gun of ukrainian propaganda
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a big game was broadcast a few years ago, to be precise five years ago, when poroshenko was still president. i had a conversation with henry kissinger. and uh, i think what can i say about him today, because, in general, kissinger did not say anything like that then, what would have been for him, it seems to me, today for which he could be inconvenient, and that it would be against his interests, and the conversation took place after that , how i returned from moscow and i said that in moscow, in general, there are very uh disturbing feelings about how the minsk agreements are being ignored
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regarding the fact that the emphasis is on strengthening the ukrainian army. it does not strengthen mutual security. and that, from my point of view, russian patience may will not expire immediately, but in the foreseeable future, and i would not rule out that russia will have to apply everything. what did kitchen tell me? for the fire to you. he said if russia does it. then she will suffer very serious, very large losses. and i told him that this is possible, but we must understand that in this case the collective west may suffer very great losses, because not only russia may turn out to be stronger than someone , no one imagines it, especially
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that the world is very unstable, that america is very there are many enemies and e make an enemy out of russia. it turns out that it’s not so easy, that moscow didn’t really strive for this, to put it mildly, but if it turned out that way, in general it could affect the balance of power in the world and it would be very long-term. it’s not in american interests, in fact it seems to me, dmitry, that this is, if you like, a new world dynamic, which is against the interests of america and the west, that this is a new dynamic, if you see such a dynamic, that it is objectively provoked by the actions of washington yes absolutely, so, not only by the actions of washington but also by the actions of london, which at some moments worked in tandem.
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let me remind you that there were not only the minsk agreements, there were also agreements initialed in istanbul which, uh, in principle, zelensky could sign , thereby ending the military operations without losing half a million of his people. without continuing this war, he could have solved this problem, but at the instigation of the west again, he decided to fight ; we remember again all the words from the european union to the american that victory must be achieved on the battlefield. but what is the correct way to say that russia is busy with business? and here, uh, there are no further options, because the worst way, which i don’t know, is whether the american establishment understands that even russia’s transfer of certain non-critical technologies to america’s enemies can cause such damage that america may not be able to cope with or london may not be able to cope because there is no point in paying attention to europe. but these two capitals, let’s say so from a geopolitical point of view. eh, the vision is quite
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interesting. uh, in the creation area asymmetric threats. that is, again, the transfer of certain technologies and certain actions. for example, what we now see in africa can also be seen in other continents. i don't remember exactly, but it seems to me. this is a conflict between great britain and argentina over folklore raspberries, it is not over, and argentina just last year made quite harsh statements about its territorial integrity. so there may be different options here. has everything been calculated, uh, in the white house? i 'm not sure they calculated anything at all, to be honest, this happens for one simple reason: they believed in their power, which they basically invented for themselves. and by the way, uh, kharkov retreat. in general, it inspired nato. generals, this is exactly what it is, yes, our tactics, our strategy, our level of training, this is really how we will win. but it turned out that it seemed to them, because after all, a return to soviet origins to
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russian origins. he showed that all these, but invented western tactics, again they are colonial, that is, they are not for the big war. for the war they ask for an image with the papuans. well, excuse me for calling it that either with iraq. this is either even serbia. this is the difference for the twenty-first war with another great power, 21st century army versus army. the twentieth is uh karen here. i want to ask you, uh, you want a philosophical emotional question. and in moscow the official position is that endless supplies of increasingly modern long-range destructive weapons to ukraine will not significantly affect the course of the war. i agree with this to the extent that ukraine will not be able to win. and that russia
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still has many untapped opportunities, i agree with this. but i don’t know, that’s how you can tell a mother who just lost her son lost as a result of long-range missiles delivered by washington to ukraine. so they don’t know, how could i say that it doesn’t significantly affect when i look, but how russia is mobilizing its industry. and how about some very important programs that would be quite possible and that russia really needs. why do they have to be postponed? so what, a turns out to be less funds for if you want the development of advanced technologies, all this is happening, probably it could happen, let’s say, faster and more efficiently, if
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