eat, sleep, come to the second training session , recovery sleep, well, that is, i lived in a regime for many years. some kind of professional life began here. and your rhythm is this frantic, when you and i agree, when we meet at the next training session. and you say, i arrive from there to st. petersburg at 5:00 in the morning; the train arrives there from concerts at 5:00 in the morning. let 's meet at 6:00, and at 10:00 i fly to vladivostok, like we'll drive for 2 hours, and i'll fly there to vladivostok to perform, and then i 'll fly back, then i won't have a day. i'm in i arrive in khabarovsk from khabarovsk at 2:00 am. let's meet, let's ride there until four, and at 8:00 i'm going there to vologda and for me it was generally what i say, so take the sapsan, you say no, but i need to sleep sometime, so i go i don’t fly by plane from st. petersburg by night trains to sleep, i go by train to sleep. you yourself forgot, and for me it was simple, what

kind of people are these artists, and since then, in fact, i have also changed a little in this regard. that is, i can fly there somewhere. the next day to fly in and work. yes, it’s hard there , but i don’t feel sorry for myself anymore, because i always remember how artists work, but you know me, then my friends asked, why did i think about you all the time too? why does she need it? why should i? but why do you need it? do you know that we are getting to know each other? what kind of passion is there anyway, why all this? why this sport? for what? yes, you bet your life on this. what did this project give me? i saw how professional athletes live. i saw that these are people who all their lives, from early childhood , people work who do not study. normally, at school there are people who do not hang out as students. you just study professionally from morning to evening from early childhood.

you have three or four ices a day, you have training, you have no time at all for your personal life, for any entertainment at all, for anything, for friends, and then, when you finally achieve, yes, something? the biggest achievement is probably the olympic medals, well, in sports. yes, it is so accepted that gold is at the olympic games. this is the highest degree. i can imagine how the person feels. it seems to me that it’s crazy, no, but in fact, everyone feels differently, i can tell you that i don’t know what the main grammy award is, probably yes, uh, what if you get a granny there, that’s probably how to get it an olympic medal, how will you feel if you are the golden gramophone ? you will receive gramophones; by the way, i already have quite a few. and if you get eife, now you would like a tv, i dream of it, but i never wanted it. i would be surprised. well, i completely impossible. oh, come on, people can hear us, you know dafi, if anything, you took us

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potential in sberbank online and find out the available amount and conditions for all loan products from sberbank well, for those who have just joined us, i remind you that this is a free program podcast. i'm maxim tronkov and my guest is yuliana karaulova , you are the host. who wants to become a millionaire of the cult program. and if you have any questions about figure skating. can you give me a hint? in principle, as the host of this program, i have no right to give advice. well , wait, bro is already there a little bit. well, it doesn't. clue. you can help a person to reason, to think, to ask him leading questions. does this count as a hint? well, well, let’s call it all the words that you called it, you will do it, because in figure skating , after all, it was already somewhere, the hearts are not the question, firstly, if i myself understand what i

’m talking about, then i in general, i ask some leading questions, as a rule, i understand, thank you. god plus it all depends on the question. how great is the responsibility in general, but as a rule, of course, if a person is lost, and if a person is difficult, and it’s difficult for a person, because there are a large number of cameras, a studio audience, and it’s one thing, you know, to answer a question when you’re sitting in front of a television. and there is no burden of responsibility, this pressure is another thing when you are sitting in the studio, you understand that everyone is listening to you, analyzing your every word, naturally, everyone is afraid of seeming stupid, afraid of saying something wrong. that’s why i understand all this perfectly, and i ’m happy to help a person relax, but you get a kick out of what you do. you like being the leader. uh, like that the program is large. i really enjoy being a part. i really like it, and i think,

you know, sorry to interrupt, the coolest thing in your program is that they brought back this topic. eh, with ordinary people, they are with stars. and when you have a chance to communicate, uh, with ordinary real people, it’s much more. it seems more valuable to me, or what? yes, i’m also very glad that they really returned to the old format, that ordinary people play, and i want to thank our guest editors, because from the number of applications they find real diamonds, actually. we always have very interesting heroes with their own unique unique fate, and with their own interesting hobbies. and it's always super interesting, because people are very sincere plus up to the program. i always read the profiles of the heroes of all the heroes who are sitting , let me remind you that at the beginning we still have a qualifying round, we need to correctly arrange uh, some things. yes, that is, the sequence must be correct, and the one who

answered correctly the fastest sits in the player’s chair. that is, in the end, for the transfer i i play with two or three people, but at the same time i study all six profiles. and i am always interested in correlating the information that i received about a person before the transfer. yes, i read it from the questionnaire, but from the real picture that i see in front of me, so, naturally. i don’t just ask specific, leading questions because i already know something about the person, but because i’m interested. and to listen to how he himself will talk about it, what he will answer, well, or to bring him to some topic, yes, which was touched upon in his profile. and again, everything that is indicated in the questionnaire is told by the participants about themselves, that is, there is no information there, you know , that we dug up and here we want, for example, to touch a nerve, there is no such thing. we have a good program, thank god, and in general everything is good and good. and there is some special guest, perhaps, who you just remember. listen, you always know it’s great when we come up with some funny

moments. and when we laugh, when is it such a subtle art, when a person understands that there are some funny topics that other people in the whole studio can actually laugh at in the good sense of the word, and he himself begins to pedal this. i always have endless respect for such people, i try to be like that myself. when, for example , i also come to some shows. i understand that if a person is there, and where and how is it for a long time under i myself, on the contrary, will make sure that he says it, and he does it, because in the end it is spectacular. in the end it's great. and i always love our guests like this too. to me it seems like this brings a little relief. yes, well, it’s not like they’re setting it up, but you know, they make such accents on purpose, knowing that later, for example, i’ll ask about something like that , which people will then laugh at, in a good sense , i’ll repeat this word. not to make fun of it, but just to lift the mood and really turn it down. it's always great. we met. when you

were a super singer, then you became a figure skater, after that you began hosting a sports program on channel one russian ninja to there is this and then you became the host of a sports program. after playing sports. after that, you and i went to who wants to be a millionaire. don't you think, dear juliana, that i am your career? yes it seems that it’s already there, well, not that thanks to you, but i believe that i’m not saying that thanks to me you know. i believe that in general everything i have a little bit of fatality is not accidental. i'm talking about figure skating and this is all a big thing, a single mechanism in which every little screw matters. you see and of course well, one pushes the other and that’s it. this. in general, a big, big lump that rolls, rolls and grows somewhere. i really hope to get around to it over time . that’s not what i meant, i thought i’d wrap it up a little with the fact that figure skating inspired you to such achievements

that you not only became a highly specialized performer of your beautiful hits, but also became a tv presenter of such a figure show. yes, i remembered the scene in the pool. no, it's not connected at all. this is with my career. i’ll probably even say it. unfortunately it would be fun if it was somehow connected, but no, it's a long way. interesting and also thanks to the ice age project, which took me a couple of steps closer to my dream , to my result to what i have today and to the fact that i became part of the big family of channel one on the topic of media exposure of our athletes. why do you think our athletes in other sports are not as media-famous as figure skating athletes? well, firstly, because, probably, after all , figure skating is one of the most popular sports, and the most spectacular, and with uh hmm

probably, if we talk about the world level, the most, well, or one of the greatest achievements. yes, there is something to be proud of, there is someone to be proud of, because our athletes are always very cool in this sport. we've already performed. there are the last yes decades. it’s a pleasant thing to do when you drive and you’re proud of it; besides, i don’t want to offend anyone now. and i hope i don't offend you. still, what i saw is my personal experience, and the guys are in figure skating. well, not that they are more erudite, but let’s say they are more connected it was with the media sphere and with art that it was a great discovery for me that almost all skaters are very well versed in art , literature, and music. and, apparently, because you skate a large number of programs, including artistic ones. yes, there you are very well versed in classical music, cultural education, we have it, it is not that it is necessarily present at a high level, in general in our cheerful

conversation today. there still has to be a fly in the ointment, so let's stutter a little distance our athletes. e from international competitions. i know it's the same in the artistic field. big problem, how do you cope? how do you artists cope without these international tours, perhaps, and where do you find inspiration for the desire to continue? and we, i think, have not suffered as much, have not suffered at all, compared to athletes. my heart really bled when i read all this news, because i have no idea. what does it feel like to spend your whole life working towards your olympic medal? that is, for you this is such a peak. yes on which you climb every day with sweat and blood. you put your life into this , and then you find out one day that you can’t perform, that you’re suspended, or whatever, you perform with some kind of restrictions. i don’t know what people feel,

it’s probably some kind of total emptiness and disappointment. not just in sports, in life, in people. this is terrible. this is terrible. and i really wish all those. the atom who encountered this, in the end, will still receive some kind of emotional return, yes, from the results that they already have and in further. perhaps reach some other heights, but of course, i think this is monstrously unfair, because this is a great sport. this is an honest sport, these are people who, with their physical labor and talent , prove every day that they are unworthy and why they cannot perform is a big question for me, because in my opinion, politics and sport. they shouldn’t be connected, i’ve already listened to you, yul thank you very much. i wish you to have only tears of happiness and never for any other reasons. stop smiling at you with your dazzling

smile. i wish you to receive tefe as the best presenter. thanks a lot. our guest was a wonderful singer, tv presenter and former ice age participant, or anna carlo . this podcast is a must read. i'm looking at batnikov. my guest today is natalya usha, musician, lead singer of the melnitsa group, and we are discussing the argentine writer horhela and the collector and his image of the world, like a library, natasha, hello, please tell me, this is how the chilavis of the melnitsa group is associated with her, probably still. eh, with some fantasy games, maybe with the lord of the rings

, beowulf, irish sagas, then suddenly you choose the theme of borhis and it seems that this is unexpected. yes, but if you know you well , you are a candidate of logical sciences, a linguist, and uh, in general, the worlds of borhis. they contain all possible plots and please tell us what you have in common with this writer. and why do you love him? i 'll tell you. yes, i'll tell you why. i chose this particular writer for our meeting, you know, if i had chosen some scandinavian studies or celtic studies, i would speak here as a professional on this topic. i would include a lecturer like natalya andreevna , a professor at the department. and now we’ll talk about registers, irish sagas, blah blah blah. well , this is probably not very interesting for a literature podcast, so i decided that, perhaps, i want to stay. in this case, not specialists, not a teacher, but a professional reader. that is, this is what i personally find interesting to read, what makes me happy,

like readers in literature, especially since somehow noted absolutely correctly. i am not a literature scholar. moreover, i am not an espanicist. i’m a linguist, and therefore it’s exactly the same as in all medical systems. i say, hello, i'm natasha. i'm a professional patient. here. today. i want to be a professional reader was a professional reader. he somehow emphasizes e in his own. this is what my main role is to read. yes, and this is exactly what is close to me, because until the end of his life he is absolutely in love with the process of reading - this is very visible, even in the essays that he read when he was already completely blind, it is very clear how interested he is, in general, in principle, in the very creation of the text and the relationship between text and language, since the cleaning ladies were a scavenger, he is terribly interested in precisely this babylonian confusion of languages, which can be ordered in the notorious

hexagons of the babylonian library somehow organize or disorganize. do you remember he has it? eh, an absolutely wonderful moment in one of the short stories. he remembers when he was a boy, when the books were closed for the night. he thought that the letters in them ran apart and mix. what are they yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes let's tell the viewer a little. who is borscht from general features is a writer who lived in argentina and wrote in spanish, although he knew many other languages. yes, he worked somewhere from the thirties to the eighties of the xx century, a fruitful life for a writer, despite the fact that he became blind during his life. and in general, it would seem that this should have complicated his work, but no, he continued to work and created such wonderful worlds and images of labyrinths or

myrrhs are like libraries. well, it’s interesting that he worked with a small form. this is a man who has not written a single novel, even if it has been nominated, and i understand him, because i am also regularly asked natalya why don’t you write? i'm not my topic big form big form. this is not my topic. that is , even if i take on such a thing, i will express everything that i want to say within the first two issues there. and the characters will continue to bore me. i'll give it all up because borhis's prose is so rich in every story contains some terribly fascinating detective story. even a charade puzzle isn't scary; it's complicated. it is these short stories of his that we must remember here, a writer whose writer borhisa extremely loved and respected. this is, of course, edgar lane paul. well, yes, that is, it largely relies on the floor and also charades. yes , like the stolen letter and similar things, that is, borkhiz relies heavily on

but he continues. this work continues to bring this story to the absolute, as in the story of ebenhakan, who died own labyrinth, when it turns out that the killer is actually this murdered man , who is very often in his uh, well, these charades and puzzles. eh, the images are repeated. i even wanted to talk to you about this story about the garden of forking paths. which is dedicated to the labyrinth and is probably the most powerful of his stories. he is also active in some way, because until the very last moment we don’t understand that murder is murder, and it happens all the time, that is, uh, murder is not what it seems, and he often goes through this plot. it seems to be a detective story and is connected with a labyrinth and mirrors. yes, with finding yourself. here it is interesting that i read this garden of forking paths. it worked out for me, finally. why borkhiz works with a small

form. i realized that he himself created this labyrinth from the text, and here, from short , repeating plots that were suddenly similar to each other, he created such a countless recursion. yes, he has mirrors in his labyrinth, which ultimately make it endless. this is such a beautiful image. and it is so applicable to absolutely everything. here in our screensaver there was a picture of the us sea. well, that’s exactly right. same thing, just escher. naturally, for the visual, this happens in graphics, and for the cleaning lady, this happens in literature. yes? it is sher da who is really similar to the figurative world of borhis, so we took him. yes, this one, this one, this tape, this one, this mobius motif of recursion, repeating, and so on, the cleaning was realized by a man of encyclopedic memory. i think i know what his secret was. that's it, judging by because he uses this labyrinth in the labyrinth as well. he places some hooks

so that he himself does not get lost in this maze and scatters crumbs. yes, he scatters crumbs, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, that is, he uses the classical technique of renaissance philosophy. this is a nosiological technique, a technique for ordering consciousness, which is called the palace of the mind; it was invented by such a cool thinker of english origin, and he came up with such a system of ordering. knowledge, ordering of memory , ordering of those facts that are contained not like in sherlock holmes's trash attic, but specifically, like a cleaning lady in an endless labyrinth, where everyone has a raymondulian logic machine dedicated specifically to this , that's what they call it, i tried to sneak in, but i honestly didn't sleep. there are diagrams there. it requires a certain habit. just get straight into this matter , that is, but when you really,

really suddenly begin to understand, you understand how simple it is, how simple it is, that is, i’m using my damn mind. i have it. he's quite strange. uh, but there, too, there are hooks, they are mainly visual, that is, a certain image that refers to another image to another image and to another image, just like uh hmm in borhis's concept of cabbella why was he interested at all? yes, this is a very important topic, he constantly mentions it and studied it himself. yes, and she is interesting to him. again, also as an ordering tool, as a tool for studying language cognition, that is, exactly. this is the concept. eh, the pentateuch of the torah is like one gigantic stretched out and unfolded in all their versions of god and tree. yes? uh, yes, the tree of sephiroth, which i generally really love this concept, because it can be applied

to any spiral or well, spiral structure from dante's circles of hell, to the dna spiral it seems to me, uh, how right it came with the ring in the form of the torah a beautiful magical ring, that is, exactly a book of books, that is, the archetype of a book, uh, enclosed in a ring, there is a game, and it seems to me that the game is also important for you and this can be seen in your work, but this is a kind of game of meanings, a game of symbols game words and very uh, an important image when the whole is no more than its component parts. that is, when in one e, there is a multitude in a certain unity. yes, but this is the only thing no more than each of the component parts. that is, they need to be connected precisely with his love for small things. exactly what all these components are. he must fit it into a very laconic form, and you know what

’s interesting is this concept of the game, which he, of course, always has , we see how he gets a kick out of it. this is exactly how he takes his labyrinth like this turns over. yes, here's the wrong side, and he's so oops. how cool everything is, and we know writers who continue to follow the behests of jorge our luis, and who produce this umberteca, of course, and what kind of relationship did they have in general, that is, were they somehow connected in real life, since they exist, e i don’t know if they were connected in real life, but they knew each other without a doubt, that is, without a doubt. they knew and you see, it turns out to be an absolutely wonderful piece of writing. hello, i adore albert eco because he appears in the name of a rose. this the monstrous blind villain library monk jorge who denies the existence and right to exist of aristotle's book of comedy. what is the character's origins?

well, a clear hint yes, recorder, but if we dig further, we understand that in this way, bert eco takes off his beautiful italian hat and says hello to borgis, because here, of course, behind borgis is his character , who is the medieval cordoba, writes treatise, and he faces. well, yes, the arab doctor, teacher, philosopher, he collides with the aristotelians concepts of tragedy and comedy, and he does not understand them. poor guy uh-huh, that is, in general, this whole search for growth is that borhis has no sense of humor. no, i think that he just showed in such a crooked way that he really appreciates borhis’ game and that in this way, in general, the overoid from which borhis sees in the mirror, in which he continues to believe , he will at some point understand , what is a comedy, but in the monastery at bert eka ’s library the hand burns , the monarch himself burns again. jorge, well, this is already separate.

history is a library, then our creativity there are probably manuscripts there, but we don’t know whether this book will become and be included in the world library? yes, but these manuscripts are burning, natasha, i, as a convinced non-payment person, am not a knapsack, i believe that the manuscripts are burning, but, of course , shadows remain on the walls of the cave, that is, our work is for eternity, and the manuscripts are burning, no matter what woland bulgakov says. well, let's listen song the hand of the pessimist. now is the time of day, don’t let me in, i’m like rusting poems, but that invisible one is waiting. be careful

how he comes to you. fall frigih, and doctors walk along my lines and my logs. i for you, i keep this sacrifice to the fire until the door closes. arc is annoying. they didn't tell you, but they're telling the truth. and don't take a step back. he is my friends, oh my enemies, how beautifully you cut with a smile the silver of the handle,

they still burn as they say, you were it, huh? they didn’t tell you at the helm, but they are telling the truth. and don’t take a step back, oh my friends , my ravines, how beautiful, they burn in your hands, it’s infuriating. your beloved, he is not up to the glory. ripe breathes, oh my friends, my dears, how beautifully

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has read all his life, yes, but uh, he has not had an active life. my whole life was spent in books. yes, but he was actually the director of the national library. yes, that is, he is professional. yes i say, great library. here it is, you see, it’s my archetypal library. eh, i think he gave birth to a lot. here are some waves behind me. culture in pop culture, that is, it would seem that he’s also in the ass of writers from literature so many. yes, we again mentioned bert-eko, who succeeds , yes, he succeeds in this game, because you can fold a patchwork quilt until you lose your pulse, but until you have some kind of magic thread. it will not become magical; it will not become a flying carpet. that is, let’s say paulo coelho, which can be considered an episode of borgis, he doesn’t succeed in listening to at all. here he even took the title of the stories of a very famous alley and wrote a novel that develops, yes, yes, but this is epigenetic. here in

in the worst sense, i’ll be honest, but you know, i read this novel, in my opinion, aliyev, because it was mentioned by my friend and on a general trip around russia i met a girl as a prototype, who was my friend, so i had to read it. although i don’t really like koel, i don’t really like it at all. and it turned out that this alif, which he describes, is a state in which he falls into the past. it was me who disappeared, yes, and then i read the original source. actually borhis' story, where everything is much more complicated, that is, this a person who, uh, ends up at the point where all the time lines converge. it’s much more complicated, this sauce is ballistic and here, you know? we can say that borkhiz is a writer who exists in a four-dimensional world. you see, the four world is not only our three dimensions, but it also has time, that is, it operates time back and forth. that is why

it has this al- what asia crossroads in a series of paths. it's mentioned there. there's this chinese guy then to yes, he comes. here's to this to the sinologist doctor who studies the heritage these are his great-grandfathers. it turns out that the book and the labyrinth are one and the same thing, yes, that is, he created uh, labyrinths and created the book. it turned out that this is one and the same thing and uh, it’s very interesting there. eh, this doctor asks him a question, and he asks, and this chinese yes, this descendant. mm. what word in a charade should not be mentioned in charades in a charade, about chess the word chess should not change, yes, and he says, i found the key to your great-grandfather's labyrinth, that the word time is not mentioned there, this means that the whole the labyrinth is dedicated to time and its different layers. that is, it is there. eh, actually this key, yes, that is, it’s just like

the tetragrammaton on the golem’s forehead, so that the golem can work. he tells vsa kobol about this in his lecture about kabla so that the golem can work. he must have the right word, and if, accordingly, hmm, the kindergarten erases one of the letters of this word from the golem’s forehead, and it will turn into another. like the word emmet, truth turns into honey, that is, death and the golem crumbles to dust, that is, control over the golem also in the right place the word and the correct letters, and this is precisely the opportunity. work with letters back and forth, that is, write. erase write. to erase this absolutely amazing unlimited control over dead matter that jewish news acquires, that for borhis the text is living matter. yes, of course, of course, and uh, in no case is it static, constant, changing.