kovrida is from here, art master. from here we will say a lot of things by chance. uh, here, uh, again, uh, moscow will now have a big movie theater, where up to hundreds of films will be produced, you know? this is also a very correct idea, censorship is needed in general, such a question. uh, not the easiest for me. i’ll explain why, uh, you know, on the one hand, e you immediately remember the phrase alberra. camus who wrote that free literature. it can be good and bad. they are free literature, it can only be bad, but it is true and not true, because freedom of creativity generally does not depend on the presence of censorship. eh, all russian literature. the great was written under russian censorship. uh-huh. freedom in general is a test. we thought that freedom was happiness. freedom is a tragedy, in general, to be serious, because when you live in such a

, well, somehow authoritarian documentary, when you live in a state that determines everything including, uh, on which side you should sleep with your wife. um, what church should you go to? there and so on. many people to this relate well, not that they understood with joy with some, because as it was written in one polish song at one time. i'm broshkevich. the cage limits freedom, but guarantees safety. this is always an exchange of freedom for comfort, an understandable algorithm. of course , i think that censorship is definitely bad. this is not right for a person. this is offensive. this means that we don’t trust people who will either see something wrong or learn something, you know, i have my favorite jokes. i will allow myself to fulfill it in

once again, uh, and i’m for very young viewers. if they are watching, this is once in soviet times, when all sorts of enemy radio stations were trying to upset the life of the soviet people, then they jammed them, and so a man walks along gorky street in soviet times and buzzes. what are you doing? do you understand where i am drowning out the voices of america? what can they tell us about us? well, trust me. i take this very seriously. they tell us about us. well, they can’t say what, but if we talk about censorship, then firstly, there is laws according to which very many things are prohibited, these laws work. they already exist; some additional censorship is needed when we talk about vulgarity. this is actually a

very complicated thing. eh, well, firstly, because now i’ll explain very briefly, when tukhmanov brought victory day, as you know, they didn’t let him out for a year. it is believed that he wrote in the size of the fact, you see, yes, this was absolutely ironclad, that there is such a fundamental difference between culture and art, it is fundamental. culture is a system prohibitions. this is what ultimately determines for society for each person, what is possible and what is not, this censorship is only censorship developed by human experience, right? art has a different function. does art destroy there? it's like science. and education

some scientists like to joke that education is the enemy of science? that all the discoveries are made by people there, amateurs who do not know what is twice in art. this is this, this is this and this is a very difficult moment. when you said there that it is difficult for the minister of culture. but mister culture is difficult. here's how not to strangle? this is the artist’s desire to create. and at the same time, not to drive him into it was worth all the prohibitions that exist in this and in general there is a subtlety of management. eh, there is nothing else, so censorship in one form or another is generally in human society , there is a question, what is needed? should we add some mechanisms? i am always very afraid of experts for one simple reason. eh, i have endless respect for experts, not my own selfish ones. this is

all untrue. the expert focuses on existing knowledge. we say that there is land there. revolving around the sun yes, but people said no, the sun is some date some time, when they said this, they weren’t lying. it wasn't like that. there it was not an order from the cia; it was the available knowledge of that time. and this is a very serious thing. we continue our conversation with you today on the creative industry podcast roman karmanov, podcast host and ceo of the presidential fund for cultural initiative elena kiper, producer and clicker. he is our guest today, mikhalych. let's go back to that interesting moment. in my opinion, when the swedish minister of culture decided that at the same time he would also host a program on television, and we remember. why, in order to find out the question, is this number burned out?

this plan has justified itself. so in the end or not. you know, eh? when, in general, i wanted to put it, or something, and then, when he left , because by hand, if the federal agency for the cult of the river negraphy squeezed out the budget of the ministry of designation and the number, it’s another matter that this time, too, the budget there is still being filled, uh, that’s it, it worked. uh, taxes were collected, and in in principle, the country's budget was significantly larger. yes, but our own, uh, our little budget. yeah, uh, i tried to uh, increase the maximum because i'll tell you. so. it is also very important for them to have good relations with their government colleagues. i, too, was a person from boxes, and therefore some things were forgiven to me, because when i discussed your questions, for example, i don’t know about the development of the automobile industry there. uh,

the aviation industry in agriculture, and at the end. i say, and also, but you must understand that in general there is no catastrophe in our country, not performers on the english horn are not the closest ones, you understand, yes, anxiety in general is a desire. it was far from killing me, but still. uh, this is a serious thing actually, and uh, to be honest, and that’s why even then there were gref and kudrin in the government. well, all the colleagues of president vladimirovich putin and they all supported many projects that would have been possible without some kind of human once upon a time it was impossible to reconstruct a large one. well, this is the worst nightmare of my life, this is it then we gave it a start to him and the minister of culture suffered, this is a minister who should bring only good news, there were a lot of good projects and the shelter of the comedian and life

is beautiful and the cultural revolution and so on, but it is still clear that certain tasks are being accomplished, and so on , but popularity also mattered to him. after which project e did you feel this way, generally speaking, and through the star too? and it was important to you, but i always laugh. well, as you can see, i’m still a little bit, uh, well, i live a little different life. i don't live the life of television is completely and i am grateful, how can i say, how to television colleagues and konstantin lvovich ever oleg borisovich kindest to everyone that they tolerate me, as if, like a person, in general, yes the person was such a butler-like person from the outside i’m a little, well from the outside in this matter. but i watched with great pleasure the shelter of comedians and in so many yellow press, when suddenly direct contacts arise, you communicate and these stories and people who are next to you and whom the whole country loves and you are with them and it was such a breath, but

human for me. this was very, very important, because the person did not need it. here is the contact. here he is an artist, here he is who he is, and you gave this to people and seriously not very much. i really liked this project of yours and your charisma. people remembered you, you, you really are the producer of your artistic self. i would say, yes, you did it very consciously, as it now turns out, and you did it for a purpose that had a beneficial effect. as a result, for your entire device. you know, when we made the theater musical moscow, i understood perfectly well that we would never make a broadway show. what if? no, i deliberately didn’t want to. we can't make the tramp leave because we work on pushkin square. we can do a show on pushkin square.

eh, i mean, now it’s not the quality, but the relationship with the public, you know, because in everything that we do there in the theater, it seems to me that it’s important to do some simple things. this is the most important quality today, or what? or you can’t deceive people in your passion. i immediately love that old country, which i first heard there in 50, probably the fifth year. you know, you are one of mine. a successful interview on the culture channel was elena the magic giant, the same great singer who sang lilies of the valley. eh, for which then the next day they came out to eat, like a defeat to the newspaper. true, that's

why. eh, i love pop music. fell in love with a pop singer. and how does it happen that many people love and have loved and will love the stage, but the musical theater. this can be said to be the exception, not the rule in our country. although any a television project, if it includes a musical part related to our past, it immediately becomes popular, everyone knows this perfectly well, but at the same time, well, you know , the life is beautiful project was closed at some point, i felt that i really wanted it. eh, do something like this in this direction and here it’s my misfortune. i read. eh, i’ll color the story about the brothers, briefly, i’ll say there were four brothers so far, that three of them wrote songs, two of them were great soviet composers dmitry and days and daniil and samuel who wrote the immortal song from taiga to the british seas of the red army of all crevices, he

became a great american composer and uh, throughout the thirties and the end of the twenties he worked in hollywood and there was a lot of this. now , if you take some film there, the great waltz is a famous hollywood film, and strauss yes, the music arranger had this dmitry tiomkin composer who is one of the greatest american composers. uh, such, well, popular music is irving berlin, who is actually from the kanter family. yes arrived, and they are all natives. it’s from somewhere around here, and american music from our region, and here’s american music from the late twenties and thirties. it was very similar to the forties, uh, and it was similar to what our composers twenty thirty did. i just wanted to say nothing more about it, and then you know, when you want to bake a loaf. you must first, uh, sow the bread, uh,

squeeze it into flour, make it, there, and so on. this is an inevitable process. nothing worked out, and i was forced to invent this theater, which we created with david shmelyansky together with sasha popov, who unfortunately no longer exists. we understood that we were doing one project. and then we will need to move somewhere, because we incurred a lot of debts , we did not fully understand, what he was leaving for. and this is purely automatic, of course, but when you stage a musical, it’s an expensive business. and uh , debts appear and they must be repaid. i said that i would die. uh, then when we pay off all the debts, so we do brave. captain, he traveled to many countries, and more than once he forgave ocean 15 times he drowned among but he never even

blinked an eye, and in trouble and in battle he sang his song everywhere. captain shark captain captain captain is conquered only by the brave dear friends, if only the artistic director of the moscow musical theater were in front of us today, then we could probably sit down until the morning, in general, but mikhail efimovich is also the special representative of the president for international cultural affairs. yes , the conversation we had with you was very interesting,

i’ll tell you. that's all that's happening to me in general, you understand, we paid attention. what do you know, i wanted to do the project and it worked out. he somehow brought culture here, and so, in general, they wanted to make a program, but it suddenly suddenly became popular. yes, something like that, in general, a fur fomievich. thank you for this mood that you give us , i am sure you will give it to us for many years to come, and in life. i watched the broadcast with you this morning and they gave you a tie and said that mikhailovich, we know that you collect ties. and you are still in general, no no. no in no case, and i decided to give you a tie from me and the piano, which is in the bushes. you see, oh, here’s a tie, and let it

be from us somewhere in your corner. why? why should we, yes, thank you very much, but i understand that you can’t wear it to the ministry of foreign affairs. eh, due to, so to speak, frivolity. let's create a ministry of happiness. and you will lead it in this tie. you know, i really value the fact that uh, when 15 years ago sergei lavrov accepted his team and this is really very good, because the ministry of me she gave a lot of human things and a lot of professional things , really, friends. thank you this was a podcast about the creative industry on channel one. this is an anniversary issue on the occasion of the anniversary of mikhail shulsky. thanks a lot. thank you, goodbye. call me for your eighty-fifth birthday. okay good. thank you

very much. hello dear tv viewers , the podcast of the melodies of my life is on air. i am the host of this podcast valery syutkin, today a wonderful bright artistic artist rodion gazmanov rodion came to visit me hello dear. it’s very nice to see you mutually, together with our podcast, and we will be happy to learn about various details and events in the life of rodion gazmanov, but we will do this through melodies, because the melody is the best memory keeper, i heard the melody down to the smallest details . i want to remember something, but what i don’t want to remember, we won’t remember it. that 's it. well, the first one is always uh, in our podcast the melody of childhood. this is the first

piss with this does not mean that right in childhood i listened to this song a lot. he's just asking. and what sounded to young rodion? listen, well, the song that i most associate with childhood is the song that people will always ask me now at concerts, because yes, because it was my first such stage debut, and and the stories associated with it great amount. uh, at some point when i left music. there, in the summer , at about 13. my voice began to break, or at 20, when i was studying at the institute, i decided to return. we started playing corporate parties, and people were interested, they sang something there and i had a terrible antipathy to this song, because everyone always remembered it, always asked for it, and i decided not to sing it at all, they immediately warned me. lucy we don't sing and then i had a director, uh, who was so very hmm focused on commercial diplomacy. and he says, yes, we’ll do it differently, we’ll say that we don’t sing, but we’ll say that rodion doesn’t love, but for

some money. it is possible and called some kind of horse. yes, he called such a horse project, so that people would immediately, so that people would not be ashamed retreat. we played with some gold miners. uh, it comes up somewhere in the middle of the performance. i have a lot of original material. we played it, in principle, we liked dancing there, and such a slightly cheerful person came up. i say, heaven, come on lucy, the director, we intercept, he says, sorry, we're just a and they go off to talk. a minute and a half later the director returns with eyes like these. here i mean, three times and we sang three times, in short, uh, i won’t name the money, but the reception itself is very important there. yes, the trick worked. just like that once, and then one person who is very respected in the brain told me let’s go. are you an idiot and why? well, i don’t exclude

it, but why are people ready to kill themselves because they had a song that they were asked to ask you for such a song, they ask you to have it, but you don’t sing it. it is not right. i also support your opponent. we have to play. i always do what vasya asks. and by the way, with great pleasure. but remember, this is the time when you performed lucy because oleg , uh, dad of my guest today oleg he is mikhailovich gazmanov. e said that he changed it. there was a different name and it’s not about dogs at all, there were no problems with ligaments, the famous story. yes, it was about a girl whose name was lucy and that’s when the father had problems with the ligaments. he couldn’t do everything, but had to release the first option to exploit child labor. but the way a child won’t film about a girl. he squanders everything. here's your first. we 'll definitely play it now. this is your feeling. so you sang, it was probably pleasant at the beginning. i think so, the question wasn't that i didn't

like the song. it’s just that strangers asked me so many times in childhood, in general, and then i found my dog, that somehow faith in humanity was lost. this is approximately, you know, what it’s like when, as a child , we talk to birds, and that’s it. i want to move on in life, but now all the time , like any adult. well, what do you think, and this was annoying. well, i imagine, i’ll draw a parallel about now, probably from this one you’re sitting in a restaurant, like some kind of tea there, brewed very cool. and uh, the waitress comes over, let's set it up. well, what you need is yes, yes, yes , you turn it, she’s mocking or a good phrase. it's a good thing. well, give me a small fragment, and i suggest, by the way, to be in time and the original lyrics of the song by lucy well , as you see fit let's premiere the song colored advertisements on the important asphalt are shaking, we met her, when from the rain i was running

it's a pity there was no time to whisper. my director appears in the wings to get my attention. do this. i know that i came out and i need to sing for 15 minutes. there we will tell the team a concert, and i only

heard the first song. i’m in the wings, i see the director standing there and he’s pointing and hitting his pocket like that. i think he wants to tell me. this again shows how i perceive it. this is valera, the money has been received, finish well, well, roughly speaking, the theater of facial expressions and gestures is perceived. this is just taking a step, dear friends. thank you very much for the warm welcome. welcome. i take a step. he says, valera, i ’ll show you the main songs, guys, my heart is getting old. you see, and after this before that how to go on stage. we started asking direct, have you aged in your heart? today he says, when you get old, you can work, that is, at our age, only with advance payment, but it doesn’t matter and in life, let’s go back to childhood. tell me, after singing this song , the parents bought a dog, like in the cartoon kid and carlson. do you remember there the kid gave the dog a hug? uh, i was about 9 years old, 10 years old, i guess i asked for

a dog. just every day. they bought a serious german shepherd from me. no, but his name was hobby. and yes from the scottish raven, by the way, it is given ah, and he was a big dog. i was a ten-year-old boy and it was clear who walked whom. then, when i was no longer the devil, i bought myself a pet. i chose the cat. this is a maine coon. well, yes. his name is intelligent sheldon, he’s actually a lynx, yes, with a brush he’s quite busy. here he is, and he’s walking down the street building the neighbors’ dogs, periodically red or diamonds. no, well, so colorful, maine coons, in principle, they have a good character, but they always have the same owner. this is the one to whom he allows himself to be fed with pills in case of necessary. well, you entrust someone when you leave to feed him, yes, but no, and if you’re not there, no, wait, the customers won’t pull up the property, there’s someone to feed, and there’s

always anyway, so, but he’s bored. he doesn’t show it, but it’s easier with dogs, their emotions are always clearly ready. you need to be able to read. and when you understand your cat. how do you understand what he is now trying to show himself? you understand that their range of emotions is much deeper, more intelligent and subtle than that of a dog. i understand, here i am a dog was born, and my beloved women, she was just a cat in the year of the rabbit and the cat was born, therefore, it’s harder to agree with cats. well, it's great that we remembered. so, through lucy, the misfortune of rodion gazmanov and now you are growing up. eh, i understand that lucy has had enough and you’ve become a little bit show-biz-loving. and so, uh, let’s call young rodion gazmanov. maybe this is the melody of youth, that is, the formation of the choice of a future path at the moment of youth when my musical taste was forming. i listened to

three russian musicians. a oleg mikhailovich gazmanova because everything was written in front of me. yes, i listened to a lot of leonid agutin and i didn’t come by rating, but simply left the most important thing for valery sutnov’s snack, and yes, this is the album that is needed and an album of radius roads. i listened to it all the time. yes, i went to study in england, great britain. so in my room i constantly listened to these musicians. i can listen to one album for a week in a row without ever getting tired of it. and when the british began to come into my room, he says, au syutkin, i immediately realized that here i am i listen to my last name enough when i come somewhere where there is no understanding of the russian language. eh, i'm very pleased when they say to settle you according to your last name? i'm saying i didn't understand from the start. and this is with the skirt of the royal forces. again, i ask, i ask,

so well, here’s the song that hmm, now i wanted to play it. although, in principle, i can , probably anyone with uh, well, that comes with what we need for sure, i can tell ours there some more complicated ones, dear tv viewers , it’s nice that the guest has such a delicious, you know, sometimes they will come, and then it’s immediately clear that he understands music, come on if your eyes are tired. glasses black glasses are like brakes for almost everyone you can’t be recognized, you can’t catch up with them, you can swim. buy

, buy and wear these black glasses with dark lenses. if you want, sing, sleep, just don’t blind with your eyes and don’t take off your glasses. no. hurry up, bye. to the right, by the way, you know, i want to say, this is the first song, the first one i have with igor balashov and the guitarist. we were on tour. he replaced evgeny khavtan, sometimes he took igor with him such a small port-studio and says, “ you’re composing music.” i say, well, yes, well , because as the author of the text, maybe someone says, just let it not happen, it seems. i love bosonova, that kind of funk. here. and so,

this was the first. i immediately felt it was hot summer, and i saw the object straight away. yes, why not make one like an advertisement, then the director immediately told me there were glasses left. such a very pleasant recollection of diagnostics , no problems. everything was clean, consumables were changed, spark plugs were replaced. we were attacked love, let your heart tell you.

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mega strong hits - these are in pairs in parallel pairs and the first one is uh gravity yes. yes, and thank you, and i want to tell you this on my wavelength. they are. well, gravity is absolutely and what does it have to do with, uh, i first write a song, and then i analyze why i wrote it like that, that is, i don’t try there to get somewhere in style, and i have two associations in the song of gravity. here are two such references. this, naturally, is valeria syutkin and the leap year group. yes, i remember, yes, it happened there. here is some kind of stylistic fusion, which i realized after i wrote. the fact is that the most important thing is that the song is something i wanted to tell, and there is this story there. yes, it's catchy. it's not just a pretty word, you know? no, so say this. no , i’m interested in how you were pushed into music, thanks to what you came back, that’s all. i just realized that music wouldn’t let me go when in my first year

i started writing songs in the margins of my notebook. and then i realized that this was happening to me, but i was always stubborn. i still received a financial education. i worked for several years in my specialty, then in all sorts of trade construction sites, there and so on, and at some point i suddenly realized that i wanted something different. that is, there was business there, as if i was performing somewhere. we were doing acoustics there with friends and colleagues, but suddenly i realized that i still wanted to immerse myself completely in music, because, but here it’s impossible to combine education, it’s damaged. i think you can always explain to the director the strategy of your partner, his brands, like, of course, and at some point i just left all the projects , uh, business projects that i was in and started making music again. well, that's right, because any activity. it should be a dream come true, and not an exchange of troubles for money. as often happens, it is unpleasant to change, the money is good. rodion melody

of love a song that calls her to her dream i had such a big first at school love. and then the song i listened to very closely by the group roxette oh yes, our swedish bunch are friends and incredible melodies, of course, and uh, a very good language, in fact, in which the songs are written. why, let’s say, many modern performers, but english-speaking performers, don’t suit me at all, because there are no lyrics in the song. but the times of the beatles roxette sting and so on. yes, there was content and in fact it is very difficult to compare russian and english in terms of texts, because, of course, much russian language is more colorful. but english fits into dimensions completely differently, so uh, well, nevertheless, write a beautiful song with meaning, but in english

. it seems more difficult to me. simple, because less, as it were, not such an instrument , less colors, less beauties absolutely true and make it interesting yes, and with the girl of my first crush, i danced to the song it master love leave doing jim's

we had a very short affair, in fact, then we were somewhat we saw each other once in our lives, but we saw each other only randomly companies, but still nice. now no longer no. this mad regret that you did something? you know wrong, uh. this is the kind of love, in fact, that in your heart there is always a place for the person whom you even when you loved in the past tense, and if there is negativity, if there is some kind of resentment, some kind of bitterness, unfortunately, this is not love. this is already a feeling

, a feeling of ownership, resentment, a feeling of some kind of injustice, this is not love, because when you love, you want the person you love to have everything ok, even if he is not with you, this is called when you don’t need anything else from a person other than himself. you touched a very important chord in the melody of your life. i would like to tell our tv viewers, guys , girls. no, fill your heads with negative emotions. it's completely simple. there may simply not be room left for something bright and very pleasant, so think more about the good, we move from the melody of love to the melody of sadness, that is, in fact, sometimes all the greatest songs in the world happen. they, in my opinion, were written either in waiting for love, or because you have lost it. that is, these strong emotions, a catapult, provide a colossal symbol for

writing. all good songs are sad, in fact, all songs on earth. these are the kind of catchy melodies that you want to perform and sing. this is when the soul sings it precisely because of absence. these difficult times appear when you can accurately assess either what you have lost or hope for a new meeting. it is in this state of mind that the melody of sadness is created. rodiona gazmanova is what

next you can tell me endlessly, this is what is in my heart this is the shape of my heart, right?