[000:00:00;00] these are radio stations that would not play hits, because there is already one that would play only fresh new russian groups, or it should be some kind of internet platform, some kind of portal, on which, firstly, there would be a very correct moderator, like you or dima , who would select and release tons of this musical information through himself and would select and post only the best, people would come in and vote and download there. uh, i don’t know these hits and then, uh, based on the results of, say, an annual vote. we would arrange some kind of rock festival, exclusively by young artists, i absolutely agree, and these two ideas. it seems to me that they need to be combined into one, that is, they really are. eh, some kind of portal, yes, a selection that listens. everyone wants me to think. i think this will be a breath of fresh air for the country, because there are a lot of young teams

that are looking for this contact. they can’t go anywhere, uh, that means move, and that’s why this is exactly the phenomenon of my project rock heroes in 2006, when the internet was still weak yes, but only thanks to the fact that i gathered young groups and immediately staged them. they immediately appeared in the portal. this person just posted a composition. you know , listen and a hit parade is formed. there they very quickly gathered into a community of people who themselves composed something and sang something, and it was absolutely unambiguous to make a mandatory condition, that you can download these songs on the air of other radio stations there without paying a young performer. eh hmm what is it called copyright? well, i argued with this, because they are extremely young. listen to this for promotion, then that’s it, they already leave this portal, and then they take the copyright. here is an addition to the ideas that have now been voiced on this matter , i want to say that it is essential that

the musician community itself listens to itself. i communicated with each other, interacted with each other, and so that the choice of which of them was better was made by the musicians themselves, as it was in the svelovsky club, this is exactly the same in the st. petersburg rod and the moscow rock laboratory and we still have it. uh, russia no, none music prize, which would be from the academicians themselves from the musicians. so i think it’s worth carrying everything in one. here are a few ideas that would help consolidate. uh, the music community, because, well, there is a lot of music, and i can tell you, it is very advanced people. now the youth. eh, there’s one that’s simple. well, if they don’t give a fantastic result , it needs to be regulated somehow. the platforms need to show this. i really hope that the hero version two zero will happen, because , well, we are already big monsters and of course i want to devote the rest of my creative life, that is, very much not only. actually, well, in our creativity. well, so

that this polyanka is with us. i want someone to follow us further earlier, so that they communicate with each other, as we once helped each other with our opinions. this is actually how we developed. also absolutely, so i invite all young musicians, listen to each other, of course, communicate. do not perceive each other as competitors; your enrichment will arise. creativity. this is very important for everyone , competition should only be positive. yes. and there is already this polyanka. where to send you some, they just find them from the social network and send you compositions. eh , it’s just that now i’m finally finishing a big post-agate album and i’ll be able to get serious about all of this, because there’s a big demand for a very simple agatesta. will this be the third remix album or what? no. no, just after agatha christie you can’t. in the ninth year , my brother and i officially separated. i have several singles were released, several old and

solo albums, but such a big one. there hasn't been a sleepy album yet? uh-huh and, uh, now he’s almost ready like a hot cake. everything is fresh, everything is fresh. yes very cool. i don’t know. is it convenient to ask what happened to you? why did you break up, and the moment that we had to break up with my brother. it was obvious from the very beginning when you christie because it was clear that he had his own creative system. i have my own creative connection for a while we existed. what did he write, and how exactly? an author, like musicians, like a poet? yes, from early , uh, well, in the album second front, there’s quite a lot already. yes, the birth of agatha christie is considered - this is already gleb. the fact is that as we grow older. yes, if in our youth we are still, well, having fun, we can create such almost theatrical images in compositions. yes there in creativity. we haven’t yet lived through some kind of life drama; as we live , we already, like a poet, want to express some of our more personal point of view. that is, we we are moving away from a fictional hero more towards

our own. his hero, my brother and i are very different , very different in many ways and antipodes, so it was clear that ours were these personal heroes. they will separate at some point, that is, for me it was obvious from the very beginning and alik witnessed that gleb understood this from the very beginning, so agatha christie separated by decision. we decided in 2008 that we were recording a farewell album, we are going on a farewell tour and actually. this is also zero. so, these are adult decisions two adults. e people who realized that it was too late to move on. you said you are so different. i remember you on stage in the golden period of agatha christie for me and you looked alike, because you had similar identical haircuts, you had forelocks, and i was like, damn, this is definitely an inspiration from robert smith from kiev. well, gleb was definitely influenced by a lot , as for chibs. i don’t know, i think it was still an early

period. there were literally hairs a long time ago. it looks like this ural scam had its shirts covered in cucumbers. and here it is. yes, but add in 2000s, i think these are your first uh, two solo albums that you recorded me. yes , within the framework of agatha christie, vadim recorded two solo albums. it turns out that there is more to listen to me on the peninsula. two of them have been published. yes, the podcast is 20 years later. i am the host konstantin mikhailov and my guest is the agatha christie group. the end of the first episode of our conversation, the second is coming soon . hello, i am pilot cosmonaut anton shpplerov, this is a hint from space history.

today my guest is daria, the wonderful deputy general director of private russian space company journalist. dasha hello, hello, anton nikolaevich, you graduated from the faculty of journalism and, as far as i understand, it had nothing to do with astronautics, but somehow miraculously you began to work in the space industry. tell us about your first contact with space. it seems to me that the key word here is miraculously, because i never planned and did not want to connect my life, i did not want to explain this, in general, why i did not want to say, because i have had a dad all my life operates in the aviation field. and my grandfather was a pilot, so i can say that, probably, i can say that there is such an aviation dynasty. and naturally, when i finished school, the first thing my parents did was ask if i wanted to try to enter

my moscow aviation institute. yes, but there was something in me, apparently different. it seemed to me that i was a more humanitarian person , a more creative person. i decided to go to the faculty of journalism of the russian state university for the humanities, which i graduated from, probably eight years after i graduated from university. i miraculously ended up in the cosmonautics museum, but before we talk about the cosmonautics museum. i will take a step back and tell you about what happened to me, when i was 10-11 years old, because my first contact with space, if we talk about it, it happened exactly at that age, i lived in hanoi in vietnam dad. i worked there on duty. he was just meeting uh, all the important guests who flew to the city of hanoi and once valentina vladimirovna tereshkova flew to hanoi , my dad told me that the first woman was flying into space. i already knew that. naturally, i really wanted

to meet you, and i don’t remember my first feeling from our meeting, but i remember something else. i remember that she took a postcard then. a-and she signed it for me and gave it to me. dad, i looked, and it was written there. all the best to daryushka. valentina vladimirovna tereshkova and i remember, then it gave birth to such an incredible wave of warmth in me, because a lot of people came and left a lot of autographs, everyone wrote very different things. i was literally there a month before. another very famous person who wrote to me, dasha, listen to my dad, always do the dishes. i was upset. and here there was some very warm, some very human attitude. this was my first contact with space, and then we very quickly move to 2014, when i was invited to the position of head of the press service at the moscow museum of cosmonautics.

and if you know, then in the fourteenth year, a new director just came to the museum and they were recruiting a new team. and here we are with this new team. i, too, came to the museum and a completely different life began for me, which i can now say is 10 years old. i work in space. here. absolutely such a feeling, because i got this involvement in an absolutely incredible area, which energizes me so much that i can talk about it endlessly and thanks to what the museum gave me thanks to that experience thanks to that acquaintances, thanks to the meetings i had in the museum. i am really. it seems to me that i have succeeded both in many ways as a person and in many ways as a professional in this field. what was the museum like? when you came to work in 2014, was the museum very different from that museum? eh, how do we see him now with you and strongly? i was probably different, because

i, like many people, had the feeling that a museum is something frozen, that nothing happens in a museum, that a museum is necessarily about some kind of exhibits. uh, for which it is often not always clear what it costs. and especially if it is a scientific and technical museum, and therefore, of course, i had such an attitude towards the museum. yeah, i didn’t understand yet, what to expect next, what to expect next from this place and little by little. my team and i started to develop all this, develop , develop one project, made a second project , made something here and improved it. something has been improved here and, looking ahead, i will say that in 2014, the attendance at the moscow museum of cosmonautics was more than 200 thousand people in the year before the pandemics - this was the attendance almost 800,000 people. the museum was filled with life, the museum was constantly filled with some kind of activity, some kind of movement, and very different target

audiences began to come to the museum. that is, this is also important, so that not only there is a conditionally technical person who lives in this, so that people who are engaged in different uh, professions, different specialties, far as far as possible from space, so that he also wants to come to the museum, so that they inspire through all the stories that they can hear there and that they further, perhaps, leaving the museum already thought, maybe somehow connect their life with space or remember, i don’t know, some stories that their relatives told them about how their life was already connected with space, that is, there was a task. well, the museum and they even had two first tasks - after a person went through the entire exhibition, so that he understood that he was full. this is what i’m proud of in general. that ’s because any exhibit that you look at is there. he you. eh, do you want it or not? he fills this with pride and joy, probably from belonging. and

therefore, the first thought is that every person, perhaps, is the first, like yuri alekseevich gagarin, was the first in space , regardless of what field you work in or in what area you do something, and the second thought. it is, of course, precisely about the fact that space is an immense topic . space is a topic that is possible. of course, in which you can immerse yourself in exploring and exploring space, that topic with which each of us is connected, and speaking of exhibits, if there is some favorite exhibit in a museum, i think that any person who works or has worked in a museum and he will say that he absolutely loves all the exhibits in the museum. but of course, i will probably say about several exhibits that at one time made a great impression on me. and the first exhibit is a cardiogram of yuri alekseevich gagarin , which was taken on the eve of the launch. why does this exhibit make such an impression on me? because the first time i looked at him, i looked at him and studied him, surrounded by

people with medical education. and when they looked at this cardiogram, they told me, and you know, but surprisingly the person is not worried at all. i say how can he not worry. tomorrow he will fly into space for the first time. and this made a great impression on me. and i decided for myself that these are all the astronauts and all the people who are probably dedicated to this topic in their lives. and in some ways they are very similar to yuri alekseevich. i think that you are anton nikolaevich too. and probably, probably, you were a little worried, but on your cardiogram. probably this was not noticeable, but the second exhibit about which i would like to say is the exhibit that entered the museum already during my work at the museum. this is a letter from faina georgievna ranevskaya , which was written on the death of yulia alekseevich gagarin in the year sixty-eight, and the letter is faina georgievna raevskaya writing to tatyana a test from a journalist of her friend. why did it make such an impression on me? because in this letter i

saw the reaction and pain, probably, of the population not only of the entire soviet union but also of the entire world to the death of the first, uh, cosmonaut of the planet. i can even quote a few lines from there, because i am with this letter i worked very hard. there are probably two such fragments that i can now reproduce. the first fragment sounds like this, and faina georgievna ranevskaya writes. that day i played scenes from somovo and when i returned home i drank vodka alone . this has never happened to me. and it’s immediately clear how people perceived the death of the first cosmonaut and even further. she writes. she says why didn’t they tell gagarin that , but he now belonged to the world, and not to himself, and they allowed him to fly, and i this letter in special gloves next to the special ones people from foundations. i held it in my hands. this,

of course, makes a colossal impression. did you have the opportunity to visit, uh, various space objects? well, thanks to the fact that you work at the museum of cosmonautics , of course, and the museum, for example, the museum generally opened the door for me to this industry and to this area, and several places that i want to talk about which, and the first thing is probably what kind of energy, because the museum that is located in the premier enterprise that makes our ships is part of the station, they have their own museum. they have their own museum there. as far as i understand, the agreement is small, maybe even open. yes, you just need to contact them and time. yes why did he make an impression on me? because there i saw the original uh, descent vehicles and yuri alekseevich gagarin and alexey arkhipovich. leonova if i’m not mistaken valentina vladimirovna tereshkova that is, all the originals are there, then many years later. we have already done an exhibition at the

cosmonautics museum. and uh, the descent vehicle of alekseevich gagarin was for some time the museum of cosmonautics is on display, then i returned there , but this is really a place where i also felt some kind of involvement in space, if there is such an opportunity, and i advise everyone to visit this place, especially if you have an interest in astronautics and love for this topic. and one more place is mvp. institute. medicine of biological problems is also a cosmic place. and i remember that there i first saw this special hmm and this is the chamber in the room, as it would be more correctly called, where it was held. isolation experiment in in the year sixty-eight it was called yes, it was called the year in a spaceship, a very interesting experiment. a very small room is a small experiment and the most interesting thing is that a film about this experiment can be found on the internet to watch a documentary film about how it was done. everything there is based in a very interesting way. do you

remember the main results that were very shocking, that people then did not communicate, and so on. you are now looking from such a practical scientific point of view. let me remind you that there was also a romantic story, because the person who participated in this experiment. at some point he realized that he had fallen in love with a girl who worked outside of this space. she worked. at the institute of medical and biological problems and they and if there was a voice, or rather there was no video, if i’m not mistaken, it was purely voice communication and correspondence, and there was correspondence and well, you see how this moment also touched me and movie. i highly recommend watching this, because in general, to have an idea of ​​what an isolation experiment is, because at the institute of measures of biological problems these experiments are still being carried out; there were many of them. they had different simulated conditions during the flight to the moon and the flight to mars. we remember all the

mars 500 experiment. yes, a year and a half charge, a year and a half in isolation. it’s impossible to imagine this , it’s been impossible for six months. yes, punch it in orbit. i just wanted to say that it’s hard for me to imagine how it’s possible and everything is much better there, we have and the whole crew is sociable , the crew changes periodically and it’s interesting there and every day hmm is different, that’s why i'm uh, very proud of my work. i have, of course, the most interesting job you can imagine and my favorite one. naturally, i can’t even imagine what i would do. and if i had not gotten into astronautics, i am proud to know you and the astronauts and to also work in this industry. we continue to talk about the moscow museum of cosmonautics, which turned out to be wonderful. i anton shyatrov daria had the opportunity to see off the crew and meet them. i know the traditions that the museum has. i went through them myself. yes indeed already while working at the museum. together with the team, we restored the tradition that existed

before under sergei pavlovich korolev about tradition. this consists of the following crews that are sent to baikonur before the launch from moscow, in my opinion, no first before the athlete, but we understand that very soon they will go to the international space station. yes, and the tradition is that before they left moscow they had to come to the territory of the memorial house, the sergei pavlovich museum korolev to visit the house of sergei pavlovich korolev to sit on a bench that is located in the garden next to this house. and most importantly, above this bench. hanging is that same legendary horseshoe for good luck, which back in the day, and sergei pavlovich korolev found it in the yard and attached it there himself, and therefore i remember very well when you and the crew came to us more than once, and these here. well, maybe, of course, i’ll take on such a mission, but, in my opinion, since our

uh, in my opinion, the very third flight, it was we who resumed this tradition of tea drinking in the house, because indeed, sergei pavlovich korolev, just on the eve of gagarin’s launch, came to the house where he was next door to the house next door, and came to visit. uh, they drank tea with gagarin titov, it really went down in history and i’m very glad that the museum supports this tradition , they were happy to come. here are the crew skins. we were yet another such immersion into astronautics in history. that is, they saw the vile things that sergei palochka korolev lived, visited his house, a lot of interesting things we heard about your colleagues, and i know for sure that all this time they remember how such a good, kind, hospitable place where you always want to return, but besides the tradition that is associated with the house of sergei pavlovich korolev, i also want to talk about the experience

that seems to me i will remember everything for the rest of my life once i was there, and on the return of the crew from the international space station along with the search and rescue squad. i went to the kazakh degree. it was a long road. and we spent the night in the steppe, and i remember, this is the morning. it was summer, and the dawn came to us they'll give you a photo when it happens. uh, return of the crew. by the way, i can even say what kind of crew it was. the commander of the ship was easy. nanenko, he flew with uh, sanjak and with ann and this is the crew we met. ahh, amazing, just something incredible. that is, it seems to me that the moment the rocket takes off is something that changes, uh, human perception. and here you are no longer just seeing off the cosmonauts. here you are meeting them , are you meeting them? it seems to me that this is always more pleasant, and i remember, it seems to me

that literally minute by minute this morning, when we understand what will happen when everything happens, everyone has already had breakfast, everyone is literally ready. here, there are only a few minutes left at home, a moment when it is absolutely transparent. uh, in the blue blue sky there should appear this black dot of a lander that is returning from space. that's when i tell, that is, a story. i always tell everyone that i allowed myself to, when i saw this point, i allowed myself not to forgive for a person who works in this industry. as i see it, the sky was transparent, there was nothing. and at this moment i i see this dot and say. listen, space really does exist, they are coming back. and it’s amazing this point is getting bigger more more at this moment there is absolutely such a very professional bustle on earth because everyone is going, going, going, all services are working. everything is very harmonious there, blue birds , these cars, and they are lined up. on the horizon , it’s all incredible. it is beautifully clear that

the people who are working at this moment. they don't pay attention to it that way. i still went there as representatives, but let’s say the press brigades of brigades of journalists, and i had the opportunity to reflect on this topic, special people are landing and approaching the descent module. there is a radiation check one second, that is, everything is very clear. i'm surprised how a huge number of services work at once and i say, well-coordinated. this is probably the most correct word that describes the process, and when opening the apparatus, the astronauts appear. and at this moment it seems that some kind of miracle is happening. well, i’ll tell you this further, as if you had never had anything to do with this or met anyone. bye. at least i think it's there from the inside. this, of course, makes everything perceived in an even more surprising way. well, from the outside it

looks like this, but after 10 years of working in the museum. there were such meetings that i remember most of all, i can’t single out just one person, because it would be incorrect in front of everyone else, and their cosmonauts and employees of the rocket and space industry, with whom i had the opportunity to communicate, because every meeting something new was born in me and brought something, but i have to answer this question. and i’ll probably tell you about, uh, several of my meetings with alexei arkhipovich lyonov, who came to the cosmonautics museum many times, who perceived this place as a kind of house, there was absolutely a feeling that he felt there, probably in the best sense, like at home and me. alexey arkhipovich leonov the first time we had a shoot, i remember that there were some foreign journalists and alexey arkhipovich, and already somewhere on the fifth or it's six o'clock in the shooting. he continued, he was so energetic; naturally, he was already old, but he was very energetic; he was there giving some instructions to the film crew. we

continued this shooting and about 5-6 hours later our colleagues. uh, foreign journalists, they come up and say alexey arkhipovich. let's take a break and take a breather. we need lunch, we need to exhale a little. it’s difficult for us, and here alexey arkhipovich gets together and says, so i worked for 20 years without lunch, and you won’t continue filming and we’re about now yes, about 3 hours of company is always 3 hours before uh, evening. they were still filming, indeed. there, it seems to me, they didn’t even bother to get some water, because that’s how it is for them. so , of course, i also remember the story of elixir arkhipovich. leonov e he loved to tell in detail about his spacewalk. eh, for those who don’t know, you just don’t waste time on it now. i would probably recommend watching the film time of the first, which tells the story in great detail. well, let me just remind you that alexey arkhipovich leonov was supposed to

return the airlock chamber, as we remember , with our feet, and inside the airlock chamber itself, to close it with ourselves, to close the hatch behind us, because it will close automatically. yes, back then no one had done it automatically, and he had to close everything on his own, because no one could do it for him, we remember that due to the large number of emergency situations, many of which alexey arkhipovich coped with, a he failed with his legs. eh, when he went downstairs, he had to swim with his head in love with the camera. and when you swim headfirst into the airlock chamber because the space suit is very large? the spacesuit, this one, by the way, is a technological duplicate of it, located in the museum of cosmonautics. you can see him in general, how he looked and because he is very large and this backpack at the back was impossible to just take and turn around and elixir arkhipovich. he releases the pressure in the suit, exposing his life, of course , to enormous risk, but at the same time he understands how much pressure can be reached in the grass. yes, he

turns around, closes this hatch and continues. that's when he told the whole story. he then made such a theatrical pause and spoke. and you know, what’s most important, i understood . at that moment, it was as if everyone who was listening to him at that moment froze, trying to understand what i was telling you. i realized that you want to live smarter and spin around. brilliantly, what projects are you telling everyone that were, uh, the space museum was one of the projects during your work. ah, it was called searching for unsent postcards. i'll tell his backstory. and then my colleague olya and i worked together in the press service and in our at some point it flies. just on the wings of inspiration, an employee from the acquisition and acquisition service brings 16 postcards with a photograph of cosmonaut vladimir mikhailovich komarov and we see that on the back of these postcards the autograph of the cosmonauts is genuine and in his own hand. eh, it says who

the postcard is intended for. and where it should have been sent, but for some reason these postcards were not sent. what was interesting was that all of them were signed by the residents of ufa and my colleague and i. we have a little perception still works differently, we look at these postcards, and the same idea is born in our head at the same time. why don’t we try, six months later, to find the recipients of these unsent postcards and convey such a greeting from the cosmic past, and we start this big machine with these people, how many emotions we experienced simply cannot be conveyed, but also looking ahead, i will say that a we did not find only four people, that is, 12 out of 16 recipients of these postcards. we found moreover, and as part of this action, we carried out very a large exhibition at the moscow museum of cosmonautics, which was dedicated to vladimir mikhailovich komarov. we invited everyone we found, either the recipients or their

relatives, if the recipients themselves were no longer alive, we invited them to the museum. we solemnly presented them with these postcards, and the government of bashkortostan went directly to the city of ufa when they found out about this, they supported the search as much as possible for these people, and tv journalists also joined in this work and, as a result, and us the building of the aviation institute v in the city of ufa where this meeting with vladimir mikhailovich komarov took place , a memorial plaque was installed. in and. all. so out of these sixteen postcards there was another project that i also really like. it is too. by the way, i will talk about half a century. it was a chess game that was played between earth and space 50 years later. uh, the first game was played in the seventies, when the astronauts in the mission control center and the astronauts in orbit

played chess. and we are like people who work to popularize this industry. we decided 50 years later, exactly half a century later, to repeat this game and this time the museum, the cosmonautics and the international space station were playing, and there was such a wave of interest in chess that we seemed to be even further on this wave. let's go, they also attracted the topic of space to this topic, and they began to be interested in space, they became interested in the museum, they became interested in the united states, it was great , it was all live in two languages. covered by a huge number of views, and of course many more people, then i also wanted to come to the cosmonautics museum. i know that, uh, you've already written a book about space animals. can you briefly tell us about it, how the idea came about, and what the reader who has read it very much can read there. yes, this book is called animal astronauts. the first space explorers. i don't talk about all animals there. i talk there, first of all

, about the dogs that flew into space. and the idea of ​​this book. born from two moments. first. i began to notice that people who come to the museum outside depending on their age. they only know three dogs that have flown into space. this is laika, the first dog that went into space, and belka and strelka , the first living beings who not only flew into space, but also returned safely to earth, but there were many more of these dogs. and i learned this, by the way, all thanks to the institute of medical and biological problems, because i had the opportunity to work with archival documents. with the memories of people who directly prepared these dogs for space flights and at some point during this communication. i started writing down stories. just for myself and at some point one of the publishing houses with which we interacted came to our museum and spoke. you know, we want to make some kind of good book with the museum, filled with equipment. eh, the opportunity for the museum to be in all the bookstores in russia and i

say, there is such a topic, they say it’s amazing about it. no one has ever written this book before, i wrote it, and it has already gone through four editions, such popularization. yes, there i talk about all the animals, uh, starting with the very first ones, which back in 1951, dogs flew into space. that is, as if in 10 years. well, before the first human flight into space and ending with those experiments that took place after the flight, i don’t remember, because there were such a huge number of them, about 50 dogs, flew into space. moreover , some flew twice, several dogs flew three times, and one dog flew four times, yes, and i always tell people if it seems to people that they just took the dogs and sent them into space. that's not how they are, essentially. it was real dog squad. they also went through preparation. ahh, medical selection is mandatory. we remember that a certain height, weight and age.

it’s definitely girls if we’re talking about orbital flights, because both boy dogs and girl dogs flew on geophysical flights, and only girls were necessarily mongrels on orbital flights, and the preparation was very strict. that is, the same centrifuge. eh, then the dogs had to be trained, because it was not clear how they would behave in flight conditions, and they were taught to eat in conditions, and shaking in conditions of loud sounds. here's the real preparation for the real absolutely real about your new job. after 7 1/2 years at the space museum. i was offered to study not only history. and with modernity, and let’s just say, absolutely, with what ’s happening now and with what will be interesting in the future, i moved from the museum of cosmonautics to a private russian space company. this is very important, because and now i am absolutely

convinced of this, astronautics as a whole is experiencing a kind of renaissance and a kind of revival. private space exploration in russia is now gaining momentum. and it seems to me that here she is , right now, she will rush towards the avangard in general, we continue the conversation. they handed over to a wonderful one, and in russia we have three large areas of private cosmetics. this is uh development of ultra-light and light rocket launch vehicles. this is the creation of satellites and satellite constellations. and this is the analysis of space data. the three major areas in which we are working are already producing results. there are already successes everywhere. and our main slogan is, probably the idea we want to convey. this is space for the earth, we are not talking about the fact that we need to quickly fly to other planets, populate mars or the moon there. no, we are talking about the fact that on earth there are still enough different issues and