and the ash tree, well, and again this is a wandering plot. so they wanted to keep you from scandinavian studies, no. this podcast is a must read. i'm looking at batnikov. my guest is natalya usha , musician, lead singer of the melnitsa group, candidate of philological sciences. we are talking about jorge borgis natasha, but as for borgis’s personal life, i was very touched by the story of ulrik e from the book of sand from the collection the book of sand, where he meets a woman. they spend only one night together. eh, there is also an obvious allusion to mythology. there the hero's name is sigurty. yes, that is, it refers to scandinavian mythology and the heroine’s name is ulrika, but this looks from one side. just like people who met in a hotel, they spent the night together until the morning forever. we separated. yes, this bathroom here stan a and but borhis represents such failures in

some other world, as if this meeting was very important. and it seems very romantic to me. there they also play a role in mirrors . well it looks now. we say, now we still couldn’t resist. curtains because that's exactly what his heroes are - a siegfritt dash sigurd - this is very important, because, of course, borkhiz with his, uh, amazing erudition. he knew what a certain irresistible, not predetermined meeting with a woman meant for a scandinavian hero, because a woman is for the scandinavians. that's basically mythology. it is fate that a woman is able to change fate, so this is the mysterious ulrika who meets with sigurd. she makes him look. it’s just that the level of what you’re talking about is completely different from what you’re talking about, it’s a scoundrel. yes, when we met another name, that is, it’s like, anamka, you know, which is through a tiny death, because initiation is always

a small death, an imitation of death. she forces him to take it to another level. that is right here. i love borhis so much in such aspects as an indo-europeanist, because , well, violence is understandable. european culture huh? yes, yes, yes, and he feels these indo-european mythological clichés very subtly, maybe not even always consciously, of course, because you understand this directly from me? that's when i see, that's this is the king’s sacrifice to this woman’s fate. i think, well, my good one. how nice it is for me to normikirin. let's talk about his personal life. he's been around all his life. you can say lonely, that is, there are some women there. i see the dedications of women in different stories, different women they inspired, but mostly. yes, he lived, uh, rather lived with his family there with his mother. moreover, we have bread. well, at the end of my life , after my mother died, when my mother let me go. yes, this is a freudian story. he married his the literary secretary is some beautiful

girl. here. eh, do you think his relationships with women are so strange, they are somehow reflected in his prose, how do you like it? not a love author, not a love author at all, that is, for him, rather, here are all the women in prose. well, and there in the same alpha yes, this is his beloved. she's already dead by the start. yes, beatrice of this viterbo. that is, in principle, in his stories, women appear as ideas rather. oh, this is very interesting. that is exactly. this is the dead lover archetype. this is it beatrice with some of her countless past lovers or this is the evidence, yes, a woman of fate who guides the hero through the lation. that is, it seems to me that he has all the female characters. yes, that all the female characters, they are not endowed with special emotionality, but they are endowed with power, they are endowed with power, they are endowed with freaks, and yes, they are endowed with a temporary function, as it were, which

must lead the hero to that point in time in space at which borhizla wants to see this hero. that is, i never received it nobel prize. you are very offensive. i read it very sadly. yes, almost 25 times, well , he was nominated a lot of times and each time he didn’t receive something. yes, the mark all the time, and the marquis bypassed, although the mark. i love it too. yes, but i like borkhiz precisely because he gave birth to so many. that is, he seems to be a quiet librarian, you know, quietly, quietly, but inside he is very tummy introduced a lot of concepts, then we into pop culture, because i read him, i see murakami and his chronicles. bird people fall into some, and the corridors there are different time, and there 1979 is the whole roman christian and crash, where e. there, people end up in iran

during the revolution and are saved in order to find themselves in some magical time slice , and they do some rituals, eat black food there. and here, in general, is the cleaning lady. he sets some programs like quantity now numbers. yes, right now i’m reading alan moore’s absolutely gigantic novel, jerusalem, and alan moore’s, too, you know? this is exactly the system, the principle of the wrong side, the principle of mirrors and the principle of travel back and forth in time, that is, in fact, jerusalem is a deconstruction of the english family saga, just classic, and family sagas but each chapter takes place in its own time. it is not linear and periodically due to penetration. this is where she gets to see the underbelly of the city of nartkamton, and characters from the same family from different times have the opportunity to meet each other. and this, of course, is just such a complete borchia. here it is stretched out into a book

, what is called longer than the bible. that is , so and so, i would, of course, this jerusalem it was reduced by half, but the cool thing is these four principles of four-dimensional space, where time is the most fascinating thing. and he implements it in a very exciting way. i have a question for myself as a linguist. he's actually funny, but there's something about him. well, uh, borhis, he somehow entered the life of a russian person. eh, this joke is too much for him. what do you think, what is the point of cleaning with an overdoer? you're a linguist, i don't know who else i should ask, but it seems to me that you might have some answer to this question. why did borhis remain in the uh language so funny? yes, because, because, in principle, the very name borkhiz in russian evokes some kind of inner isidore of seville with folk etymologies, you know? and this is the root bor , that is, i take it and so on. i really want to continue etymologizing it, that is, there are

such unfortunate surnames that the dachas evoke their folk etymologies and you can play a linguistic game about them. yes, a magician, yes, well, of course, of course, that is, the fact that even the author’s surname is recorded in the body of another tongue in the tissue of another tongue and begins to spread there, like some beautiful harmful weed of amazing argentinean origin. here it begins to sprout. eh, in the fabric of the labyrinth of the russian language already, well, you see, it’s interesting that you and i found what kind of linguistic move really explains something about proborhis and his immortality of his mind games. yes, he is immortal, because he is constantly repeated in the works of other people. yes, that is, it turns out that clone shadows continue to play on the walls in caves continue to live. yes, the labyrinth continues to live. he endlessly recurses the mirrors endlessly, borkhizv. cool, natasha, thank

you for the interesting conversation. i learned a lot and erudite is always interesting to listen to you and it was very interesting. so, as you can see, a writer like horhelu and cleaning is very unusual. uh, thanks for inviting me. i really like to talk about books, cause it was under the checkout, must be read. i'm the main attacker. my guest was natalya usha, and the musician is a candidate of philological sciences soloist of the group. the mill is also known as a man's mill. thank you, all episodes of the podcast are a must read. you can find one tv.ru on the channel one website. hello dear friends. this is the podcast

life of the wonderful and with you i’m alexey varlamov a guest. i have a famous tv presenter journalist, thekla fat, and we will talk to, uh, a wonderful scientist layer. academician nikita ilyich tolstoy. and this is violet's father. and i must say that we have known each other for a long time and have been in the opposite situation many times, when the full name asked questions. a i answered. today we are switching roles, and i am very interested in what kind of conversation we will have, moreover, the topic is very, dear, very important. nikita ilyich turns 100 years old this year. and so we will talk about him as about your father, as about a wonderful scientist, as about a person who once made an amazing impression on me, like many students of the faculty of philology of moscow state university, because he was completely different, he was not like . what was it like to have amazing lectures and although i’ll be honest?

i was not very interested in slavic philology, but for some reason, like this, but he himself had the appearance of this tall, stately man, such a real russian nobleman, a count with a long beard, his speech. uh, his movements, his gestures. it was something absolutely incredible. but what memories do you have about your father? i must tell our viewers that my father has been gone for more than a quarter of a century. unfortunately, number ninety-six, but really here in twenty-three. we are celebrating the centenary of his birth. i have memories in. of course, very, very warm, homely. and when you say that he was not like others , then the child’s daughter doesn’t understand this, she doesn’t realize it, but i was always a daddy’s girl, and i, perhaps, will say something completely different, but philology is serious things. we'll talk again. it seems to me that that's what i'm doing.

uh, working on television, because i studied at a theater university, means that i’m somehow, uh, emotional, maybe, i hope, like that artistically, this is all from my dad, uh, because that dad, despite all his learning , is a doctor of science glasses. uh, books of knowledge beard, he was a man, very cheerful and very uh, just so artistic, he sang some stupid songs all the time. he wrote poems, he performed pranks, and, by the way, he acted in films. well, one day. yes yes he acted in films several times uh. one day they were riding with my mother on the subway to work. but there, from tretyakovskaya to leninsky prospekt, i caught him. eh, just an assistant director on the subway. yes, because of his big beard. oh please tell me you have such a beard. but you don’t want to act in a movie or something like that, dad, which means the president goes to some meeting there. exactly the criminal code or what is it? he says, well, what do you

want, what's in it? actually a proposal? but we are looking for extras for the film. e sergei fedorovich bondarchuk boris godunov well, okay, maybe that means dad was terribly happy, canceled all his academic affairs for several days and stood as an extra in the film boris godunov on the coronation scene, which was filmed in then zagorsk in trinity-sergius lavra, although the action takes place in essence, of course. in the ispensky cathedral of the moscow kremlin so i disappeared there for several days. uh, and when he said that uh hmm if he got a call from work or something like that. he says you are not saying that i am on set, you are saying that i am very very busy. this was terribly interesting to him, and he didn’t tell anyone there on the set that no one knew. the only thing is that dad, it was also the end of the eighties, people who know the church service well? and in general, here’s the introduction e like what like in church u

there wasn’t much, and my dad was a very church-going man and as a child he served in the church and in general services and knew everything brilliantly, so he was also very proud that he gave a little advice, there as an assistant and second director. that how one should behave, how one should, means acting, and so on. well, this is true, by the way, so we learned. i studied in the soviet years in the early eighties and still. well, it’s not that the church was completely prohibited, but somehow it was clearly not welcomed there in universitetskaya. student environment. he walked when it was bright week, easter , christ is risen and congratulated everyone, and he did not reserve his religiosity, of course, but he never hid it. it must be said that several of his students somehow connected their lives, some simply became a priest, some, well , artemia vladimirovna, and some remained in philology or science, but in a sphere close to the church. um, that’s it, i remember very well how my dad and i went, and he

took me to church, we, uh, i wanted to say zilina, and we live we continue to live in the horde. and this is just such a zamoskvorechie, a corner of moscow where several more churches were preserved, and several churches were open. i remember i went to holy week, and there was joy in the church of all who sorrow, and he stood there, he was nikita ilyich , that’s exactly what i remember, and uh, hmm, eighty- four. easter was his favorite holiday. he always changed, but i wanted to say that it was still somehow preserved, uh, he supported such an old, moscow tradition that you go to temple? um, for easter actually. here at the religious procession at the beginning of the service, then for some time we were still there. well, maybe not for long, because i was still a girl, then you return home and break your fast after fasting, then you go to some other church. then and then you go to visit one and another, or guests came to us, and

this night is full, on the one hand , of some kind of festive and festive campaigns. eh, also breaking the fast and friends and so on and so forth. it's news time on channel one. my name is yuri shcherbakov hello, vladimir putin visited the amur gas processing plant , one of the largest in the world, an important link in the supply of natural gas to china via the pipeline, the president gave the start to the construction of the enterprise in the twenty-first year and participated in the launch.