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tv   PODKAST  1TV  September 14, 2023 3:05am-3:26am MSK

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[000:00:00;00] liquidated, military equipment, including foreign -made ones, and precisely those who courageously fight with ukrainian militants in the special operation zone , senior sergeant oleg baev, having received from intelligence the coordinates of enemy positions, launched an accurate artillery strike on them, destroyed the vysovy stronghold along with the assault group the enemy, as well as the crew of an automatic grenade launcher and a pickup truck, already a mortar group of militants. nikolay zhaklin senior sergeant restored the air defense system damaged during artillery shelling as part of the crew discovered and destroyed the enemy drones , which greatly adjusted the fire of enemy guns , the enemy was the enemy, deprived of air support , volgograd retreated. at the mercy of bad weather , downpours hit the city and hail, weather forecasters blame it all on the cyclone, which, according to their forecasts. it will soon begin to recede by the weekend in the region. it will be dry and warm again, showers. waiting in st. petersburg, the authorities of the northern capital
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have announced a yellow level of weather danger for today, while yesterday in the city they updated the temperature record for september 13 , the air warmed up more than 24°. warm and thermometers in moscow the day before. also , the level above 20° promises that similar weather will be in the capital today. the first night frosts may arrive in the moscow region by the weekend. such news for this minute. see you later. somehow i was getting ready just now, i read some materials and memories about nikita ilyich, but a lot has been written about cinema, but nowhere is it said. but that's exactly what you inherited. you also shot from a movie.
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this is some kind of artistic craving for this, i was filming with my dad. and i was filming with childhood. i was also caught. just here, dad, by the beard, and at school , some photographer came to me like this and said, well, yes, girls, come here, and my classmate and i were placed on the stairs. i remember shaggy hair. since then, i always wear shaggy hair, and we ended up on the cover of a counselor magazine, then a second time some people came to the gorky children’s studio and looked again. go to and girls here. we sent you and me to this wild children's file cabinet. i then starred in several films and dad somehow so this is, well, us before dad. i took off before my dad. yes, and we, apparently, my childhood glory did not give us, but peace. he also said that it was necessary to film. eh, you were filming. i'll film. i had an interesting story with this studio. gorky is also associated with fat people, which i already
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had several films under my belt in my i don’t know 13-14 years. and at that moment our famous great director gerasimov was filming. film, leo tolstoy, this means some of his later films, and he plays there tolstoy and his wife are playing armakar sofia andreevna and they call me to audition. now i’m probably already a teenager. yes, i’m 13 years old, and they call me for auditions. i have to play. eh, young. eh, that means she’s also a girl, another person of nikolayevich jr. , alexander lvovna tolstoy. i remember that i came, i’m already in ruins. by that moment, it means the history of cinema. i understood who gerasimov was , i understood who makarova was. i come to gorky’s studio. such old chairs are high. and i sit down and i see that next to me they are doing makarov’s makeup, which means i’m a little i value it, but something tricks me out there, i don’t know that there are some bagels here or something like that and
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the auditions begin, and they have photographs and they all say, says, oh my god. well, how similar, well, how similar, well, how did you find that, the assistant says. well, it looks like me and my mother. i was still with my mother. you know, like a minor. we kind of shrug our shoulders there. well, it seems. yes, well, you kind of understand that, well, here’s one family, somehow, of course, alexander lvovna is fat. she means a sister of my great-grandfather, but still like some kind of tolstoy blood, but they didn’t understand that they were calling a person from the same family. but then events developed funny, that when it turned out that i was fat , all this meant that somehow they became even more interested. uh, then it turned out that my uncle is wonderful, as i know, maybe this is not true, but that’s what the wonderful ilya vladimirovich told me 19. ilyusha wrote a rather revealing review of the script. e, gerasimova and. q. in general, i didn’t play alexander lvov, but somehow they stopped. well, no, well, maybe i i just played poorly in the auditions. the same thing
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happens too. well, now let’s turn a little to history. yes, come on, let’s figure it out, so nikita ilyich tolstoy is your father. well, what does he have to do with lev nikolaevich because it’s very difficult to deal with fat people there. who is who? yes. lev nikolaevich is the most father of many children in russian literature. he is such a big russian literature and understand who you are, you are some kind of fat, as we say , tolstoy’s second cousin, leo tolstoy, you know, i mean the beard continues to follow the hands, and our lines. uh, uh, fat russians. yes, now it comes from here in russia, in general, there are not many fat people coming from the second son of lev nikolaevich sofia andreevna i read from ilya lvovich. yeah, i lvovich was the first granddaughter to get married before the other children, and lev nikolaevich’s daughter is just uh and lvov, whose source is the main philosopher, and then they had a daughter, then
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four sons and uh, then another girl and a boy too quite a large family. well, in general, in those days there was no such a rarity, all four boys. it so happened, but we ended up in military schools , cadet corps, as it was called then . my grandfather studied at the naval cadet corps in st. petersburg, there are wonderful photographs of him as a cadet. and even he was before the revolution. eh, as a young midshipman he sailed on the aurora, it was a fairly modern ship like the one he was on. uh, practice, probably, it’s something like this for sailors, that is, i also swam correctly, i say i went on the aurora and uh hmm, some kind of service, first as a student, then uh already continued the present one. here is another who studied in e. hmm, in moscow, in the cadet corps, the eldest of these four took part in the first world war, and then onwards, and when
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the civil war begins, then all four brothers. in the white army, three of them end up in the southern direction, and my grandfather, as uh, as a man of the sea, he makes his way to the east and joins kolchak’s army and it turns out that he was the personal associate of general kapel. here's my father. when he told me this. he always remembered that in chapaev’s film there is such scene, psychic attack, as they march in black uniforms. just like that, just like that. e parts. eh, and, as far as i understand, these were units even just from officers who formed a psychic attack. this is what a psychic attack is called. so-called. here's papa, uh, said this part of general tile, that is, he was going there, probably, but not in chapaev's film, of course, but in history, probably in history. yes, my grandfather means, it turns out that we don’t have his memories,
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but we know that he took part in this. the siberian ice campaign was another ice campaign. but when they when they are 2,000 km, if i’m not mistaken, they passed in the winter and there is a story that he was taken out to be shot several times. one day he escaped execution, as my father told me, by saying that he was captured and that means they just put him up against the wall, and then he probably thought it was red, he thought it was red. why is anyone else his? maybe, uh, now take a life altogether, and then he became like. well, now, it’s just like before death. everything he thinks about red and speaks with good good naval obscenities, and to cover them even then, it means that these ones who began to somehow think about it. or maybe, after all, he is a nobody, in general, by some miracle his grandfather managed to survive. at least the migrant newspapers already wrote that he was shot, then there was news that he died actively, but still
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in the latter. they take him out on a train unconscious. eh, to china somehow through uh, that means chita is somewhere there, he ends up in china in harbin then shanghai and then he begins to figure out where his family and somehow i still don’t understand how they figured it out. he finds out that his family is in exile in europe and needs to take a break here. as i say, you know, it’s all like a movie, and for me it’s really a movie and , to be honest, i want to make a documentary movie. here i am with my second cousin volodya, the fat grandson of another of those brothers, uh, whom i’m now telling, we want to now make a movie in the history of our grandfathers and about mine, that is, suddenly the other three grandchildren of tolstoy are mikhail ilyich andrey ilyich and vladimir ilyich they find themselves moving in a southern direction. and unfortunately, one brother dies of typhus, and the other brother is already on the outbid, which is there at the neck,
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which connects crimea with the mainland . and when, uh, the reds advance, he stands up, uh, at full height above the trench and just , uh, some kind of revolver or something, starts shooting at point-blank range. eh, a chain of reds, which, in general, was suicide , it turns out to be a bullet in the stomach, and he dies, in my opinion, just almost in the arms of his brother, and he falls now almost later historians found 100 years. it may not be exact right down to the exact place of his burial, but the cemetery where those who died in 1920 in that battle were buried, and there now stands a cross and uh, here. it is written that count andreevich tolstoy died there during the civil war, vladimir ilyich manages to escape. he boards a ship and
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through turkey through gallipoli, through this gallipoli camp, ends up in serbia in the kingdom of the serbs, croats, slavs, in migration, and there in the twenties in the 20th-23th century, two grandsons of tolstoy meet their mom, their younger sister, serbian fat. these are the same fat serbians who lived in exile for 20-25 years, and there in emigration my father was born in 1923, and then his cousins ​​were born. children. e vladimir ilyich oleg a vladimir and and. i am vladimirovich ilyusha vladimirovich and my father was born in such a small town in his homeland, former austria-hungary, huh? and then, uh, when he went to primary school there, but he also complained to me, i remember this very well, that he was not released until he was 5 years old
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into the yard to play with the serbian boys because he had to learn. uh, as follows the russian language and they called him nikita and it was a conscious decision of my grandfather, because he only wanted a russian name that is not in other slavic languages ​​and damages another small detail about his baptism, that when they came to the priest refused to baptize the orthodox church with nikita, because he didn’t know any nikita . let’s go with nikolai. it's somehow good there. call me what you want, but i will baptize as i do i know how i can, my grandfather went to uh, some kind of metropolitan, that means serbian, who said. i know such a russian name can be baptized nikita and so he was baptized, then there is this one. photo like uh my father is sitting with this. now you see him, ours , after the death of my father, with such a tolstoy ring, where is the coat of arms of the tolstoys. so that means,
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apparently he was allowed to wear it. this is for photographs. he sits very proudly. that's what it means, showing tolstoy's family peach, and he studied at the russian gymnasium correctly. you know, to belgrade for so that he could continue his education at the russian gymnasium, of course, this amazing thing was also a gymnasium where many taught or not. and yes, so now, also in the twenty-third year, the 90th anniversary of the russian house is celebrated. this is the house, so to speak, the russian house, which was built by russian architects. and, because the immigration was very large, it is believed that the russian emigration in serbia was approximately 40-45,000, and the serbian king alexander received the russians with great joy, because serbia there was a very large military emigration and king alexander knew the russian language very well; he studied in russia in the pajitsky corps and in addition, of course, the relations of the serbs.
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the russians were very special and i will introduce what, of course, the serbs still remembered. uh, the liberation war in the balkans is also that war of the 19th century, which liberated them from the turks from the ottoman empire. in addition , not only very educated people came to serbia, but very many of these forty fifty thousand were people with education and skills young good professionals. this all i mean is that in the russian gymnasium there was an excellent education and i received an excellent education and such a pre-revolutionary one, in fact, they studied donated textbooks. and then the most interesting thing begins, because here is this russian pre-revolutionary boy. a person from a migrant white environment ends up in the soviet union and becomes, uh, a soviet student at moscow state university, and then a soviet scientist, and so on. but the most important thing between these two is - this is war. yes, this is world war ii, where
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eh? nikita ilyich takes the most active part, as a partisan, and then as a red army soldier. and these are some completely paradoxes of history. yes, my uncle's father is white, he turns red. he said somewhere about himself that i was the only tolstoy red army soldier. this is how it happened? well, this is , of course, an amazing historical turn that took place in our family. and this is a conversation not only about my father, and not only about my grandfather, and these serbian tolstoys are broader than the russian migration , the choice that it makes during the war. and this is not yet a conversation about the fact that they simply managed to somehow change their fate, there was a huge will and with the course of circumstances, of course, which just if it weren’t for ah, these two grandchildren of tolstoy ilya ilyich vladimirovich my grandfather brother, we would n’t be sitting here now, and there wouldn’t be any fat people in russia, we continue. this is jean's
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wonderful podcast and we have a wonderful journalist as our guest. eh, tv presenter thekla, fat, as far as i understand, the russian immigration was divided into defencists and defeatists just like that and the fat ones treated. uh, to the defencists. moreover , they were ardent defencists. and there is such a thing. dad loved this with this and remembered this to quote. i don’t remember a large piece, but i remember the phrase that in emigrant magazines and newspapers they published such and such a poem about my grandfather. well, no epigrams, but about how he argued in general, and it was said there, so count ilya ilyich fell on him like god’s scourge. ilya ilyich was a nice guy, but at times he was just naughty, that’s how he led the discussion. this is how they defended this a defencist position is a word, naughty is generally good in relation to fat people. this is very much about us, even lev nikolaevich wrote that there are fat wild ones for something wild . this is very much about our line or whose this is very very suitable. i’m like that, i’m smiling, and you’re smiling, because we imagine
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modern simple people who have the same thing, and i would too. of course there was a wild naughty thing, eh, but that’s not about that now, which means that in my time the bombing of belgrade began on april 6 , 1941 . my father is still finishing. this is the last class of his gymnasium, there are photographs, how he stands in absolutely tattered rags , so thin, like a stick, such a pole, because the first is his work. it was that he hadn’t even finished high school yet. he sorted out the rubble, carried bricks from the bombed houses of belgrade, just somehow they put it in order, i don’t know, they dismantled it, then they find themselves and leave belgrade, where they are already hungry and and they come to vladimir ilvich tolstoy, who worked as an agronomist in the city of new beaches in the north -east of belgrade on the bank of the river, yew, and uh, they turn out to be, there the partisan begins
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movement. they help the partisans and in general, probably, the idea of ​​returning to the soviet union arises already when they remain in serbia when the red army comes, when the red army comes then, firstly, they turn out to be very useful, because they they speak russian and they speak serbian vladimir ilyich knows everyone and he is a very respected person. this means, for example, we still have a paper where vladimir tolstoy or vladimir tolstoy is thanked for organizing the local population to help in crossing soviet troops across crossing the river. in my mind, right away the nkvd smersh is there, that they are white emigrants, that they cannot be trusted. this means that everything is not so , all these stereotypes are being broken, and people have a sense of trust or something, so i can’t catch when this moment of decision was made. and maybe they took a very they, of course, took a very big risk, remaining a compliment when when they entered the red army there was, for example, in serbia another third tolstoy wreath, vladimir
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mikhailovich tolstoy, who came from paris where there was a terrible famine, and he lived in serbia he was also hungry, but better than in france and uh, here he is before the arrival of the red army. he said that i can’t with the bolsheviks. i incredibly want to go home to russia. well, i can’t imagine that i would be with the bolsheviks at all, like having some kind of something, and he left when the germans were retreating, he went to paris and then went to america, and our aunties now live in america and i think that they were ready to cooperate with the red army when they remained, because in general, they were ready to cooperate with them. and it really was a general, i'm afraid make a mistake in his last name, which is known to describe the meetings of the soviet general who met them and who, uh, was
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surprising for him. what are tolstoy’s two grandsons doing here in the serbian hinterland, and in the balkans, and apparently this is this conversation. they are not just immigrants, not just white-speaking , they are fat and this immediately inspires trust because whatever it is, the soviet government is so and so, but tolstoy is tolstoy , that’s the truth. and, of course, we understand what comes next. i'll tell you how they returned. and how uh how, how is she not wrote a letter to stalin and the fact that they survived and the fact that we were born, of course, this is here for you in the mirror of the russian revolution. played. i think it’s a key key role, but that means, let’s go back for a minute to new bich and serbia in general, and young people are fat. here is my father, probably his brother oleg, they are in partisan detachments, and they participate and help the red army very actively during the fighting, and then my father, who is 20 years old. and he decides that he will go further with red

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