i told you, you are so beautiful, my heart was relieved, because this is a talented person. how is it possible that you are such a clown actress? uh, we say it again, with such an appearance, it’s rare that anyone can afford it when ugly girls play in comedies, because well, what else do you have left? say thank you to fate and play yourself. what did you want? well, tell me, thank you, it so happens that your legs are 15 cm. but instead of your nose, your ears stick out and so on. well, well , yes, then gifted is good, but don’t play you have never in your life, uh, threatened katerina, well, never well, because, well, that’s how it happened. and you weren’t scared when you moved to this side, but in the company. eh no. i would never be afraid of being ugly. i spoiled myself at the shchukin school. so that the department did not recognize me. i played with the box. that is, i was substituted with cotton wool like this, you know. i

always got a kick out of it, because the character of a heroine lasts a long time, you know, and when you rush around with yourself, like a chicken with an egg , this beauty of yours, in any way, you understand 35 and you won’t play anymore. well , unless you have some kind of connections, as they say, like cinderella. well, you can’t even play the fact that you’ve extended yourself like this for a century. it's cool straight up. thank you rarely, who would dare, and especially a woman to read zhvanetsky. well, because zhvanetsky’s text and the woman’s voice are somehow incomparable. and i blessed you. we talked and were friends, and we were friends and talked and it was absolutely happiness, and during his lifetime he allowed me to read himself. he said, you are our girl, odessa you know how to do it, and i absolutely just felt happiness when summer was in august every year. he gathered us, and a chair was covered in his house. he went out onto

the balcony in odessa. yes, he went out onto the balcony, took out his briefcase and opened it. and he checked what he had just written for us, and he gave you, or something, something from his own. well, whatever you do to earn money, maybe you have a program. i have a program , a book was recently published. natasha zhvanetskaya released hmm a new book. yes i wanted you read out. the most delicious and harmful the most pleasant immoral the most spicy illegal hence such thoughtfulness in the eyes of many, what can you do for 8 hours in a row just sleep and work eat drink love dance is impossible. and you will really like this. how to distinguish real diamonds from fake ones. in the face what are your plans for the summer? and

i’m going with my family to the sea to relax. it turned out to carve out three whole weeks in the shooting schedule. this is incredible. in short, i was just lucky and the children are with me and my husband and this is happiness and friends to they will come to us there from odessa so that everything will be fine. i want you to do well, because the artist, uh, you didn’t suffer. you just got it. it is a gift that you use. you have the right. uh, and it’s a joy for you to make people happier. and you still can’t help but say this. in our theater, we begin rehearsing without traditions in september. the director is my husband alexander nesterov. you’re not playing kharita ignatievna? no

, i'm not playing, i'm helping. this will be a musical performance. i'm keeping my fingers crossed. it was a podcast letters, and the honored artist was my guest. nona grishaeva thank you, thank you, you are wonderful. thank you hello this is a podcast, tatyana gevorkyan is with you and our episode today is very unusual. you and i are going on a time machine, the brightest and most unusual time in the nineties, and together with us , perhaps the brightest stars of the era, irina saltykova shura and

sergei penkin, will talk about fashion and style of that time, then first change in front of everyone, i’m sitting in these. eh, terrible shoes, i immediately say they forbade me to wear what i came in they told me to put it on. this is how sasha rolled over like a gentleman. i think i don’t want to go like everyone else. well, friends, this week we are discussing everything. tender may, because it was yura shatunov’s birthday. and, of course, we remember the era of the nineties, probably within the memory of our generation. this is the brightest and most adventurous era there was. what kind of memories do you have, the best ones? hmm, considering that i was in the same year when yura started drinking and i was invited to work in the siberian traffic light group, so funny traffic light because we stole traffic lights and put them on the stage. they blinked beautifully and we worked. eh, barnaul kemerovo tomsk krasnoyarsk i sang yura shatunov’s songs live many, many years later razin, when

we met, we became friends, they said, and we were looking for you, you bastard. we were looking for you. we knew who sings it, we live all these songs , maybe i’ll meet yura recently. may he rest in peace. yes, he behaved very secretly all his life. that's the kind of boy he was. well, yes, i would say. well, that's interesting that everyone had a different style in the nineties yura he is such a generation, denim, denim, in short, whatever it was, you put it on. yes, the guy from next door. well, shura is just a king. what was your name? yes , i didn’t have enough money for pants. i went out in shorts, yes and once a sex symbol. but that is, it was all. all the beauty that was i put in myself. i just god bless you, well , that’s only later, but initially, yes, initially no, but you can name the brightest, most fashionable stars of that time. in your opinion,

of course, aguzarova. and who else? well, according to those times i feel very sorry for them now. why don’t we somehow talk about this singer, a marinkapura, who gathered in stadiums and sang blues and jazz and pop songs. well, if we take a group of technologies, they somehow worked there on foot, or like a juran. that is, there is a little electronic music, they were all in leather and black. but bright, well, i say, only here is zhanna guzarova. before fame. i was the most fashionable. well, i remember now, i’ll tell you now , i literally remembered now, then there was, yes, and here are some fashionable shoes. you probably weren’t born yet, but i’ll tell you now my story from the nineties, where i took things here. well, that is, i have my mother’s sisters, one is the manager of the store there , the other is just. okay, it was called. yes, yes, she has a bunch of girls she knows who work in stores and so on. and that is, how

did something so fashionable appear? yes, yes, the girls called, and naturally, i definitely go there and buy something for myself, naturally, there’s a queue of people, it’s extraordinary there, i don’t know 200 people, maybe, or even more. well, we have no queue and there are only red shoes for the whole, so to speak, for the whole of moscow . well, let’s put it roughly, yes, and i called my friend and said, let’s go fight for the shoes. well, no, we have the opportunity to take them, there is a back entrance and so on. we went. here are the same shoes. a. well, i want to say that they were and are still fashionable. that is, uh, a thin nose and a small heel. that is, it was so bold to go out on the street in these things, because i’m in short supply, you see, i’m going to college, and the whole car is just the whole car. i’m standing, they

’re looking at my legs like that, because i was then inspired by the clip, remember there was a clip background from blondes, there were girls like that in brutal soldier’s boots. it was wildly cool. and i realized that i wanted these shoes, but it was impossible to buy them, because well, you couldn’t even buy red shoes. but this is about what year are you talking about now, but it was the nineties. still, ninety-five, maybe these boots. i’m just a little bit . i’m telling you somewhere in the early nineties. but this is probably the mid-nineties, and i went to some market. there, obviously , there was a military man there and i bought boots from soldiers of the romanian army; in my opinion, they appeared on the market and we somehow climbed through the shawarmas that were in the apartments. and it was also illegal, it was also a secret in such a way. it was in general. it seems to me nothing. no, we haven't changed. i think they still are. absolutely not then. you need

to somehow manage to run over someone buy it by running for yourself so that it doesn’t happen again later it’s a lot of people coming to a party there the same thing on someone. well, we had such a small choice, you know? this is later, listen, who had different things to do. i’m just trying to catch up with you, then i came to see who were the coolest in the nineties. it is clear that yes, and pop artists are musicians. and do you remember, cher, who all the girls wanted to date, representatives of what profession, bandits? by the way, we ’ll get to that, no, but the coolest fashionable guys were music video makers. they created mine. that's later. yes, the little one looks really good. yes, this is the nineties, as if it were three there were only three clip makers. yes, there were only three of them. well, no, it was a little more for you already . it’s clear. wait, i’m just you, that’s it, yes, it was gusev, right?

now, no, bondarchuk yankovsky was later scolded for starting to shoot videos, wait, come on, we haven’t done it yet, how and where what were you inspired by, where did you get things, because it wasn’t like that, just where i just want to know the origin of your bright stage costumes. in the ninety-eighties because it’s the year eighty-six. i worked at rita an intourist in space and tracontinental travel, he has already traveled abroad a lot. at that time i worked as a janitor and went abroad on tour. therefore, well, people stayed there for me. they work. so we were in singapore , america, canada, italy, and germany. i want to say that i brought some things from there, but mostly. if you take our stage, everything was basically wearing jeans together. so

it was impossible to get it, they cooked it with you, the nineties were such difficult years. something, uh, was bought somewhere in the markets. that's what i want to say that, uh, i came up with all these costumes myself, what tells me that it’s so bright, i bought all this, uh, in a ballroom dancing store. and by the way, i remember, i was just now watching, preparing for the program, watching old videos and found a recording from 1987, where you perform at a concert, and in such a modest jacket, such a modest young man, not a single rhinestone. he is shchedrin, yes, yes, yes, yes, no, then i didn’t work at rita’s yet, it was just like we were walking. and here we are this evening i was also invited to this one. so everything somehow got twisted and confused, but then i had this magazine, a music kiosk, where they called me, like, what kind of kerden shchedrin

is some kind of uh cheap sweet-voiced singer or something like that. here, uh, but it seemed like a tail to me. everyone received it so warmly, because not everyone accepted this kind of music. you see, i always go, like a pioneer, and i always get all the dust. i come first, but because someone follows me and takes an example from me, they do something. well it's good when they take you well, i heard an example somewhere else that, in my opinion, in 1988, we performed with a film group somewhere together. and that almost viktor tsoi and his wife, natalya razloga, sewed on you uh trousers, yes, they weren’t even trousers, they were like arabic trousers. these are, uh, yes, in 1987 you performed on stage quite modestly, and then in 1988 i didn’t perform on stage yet. it’s just, uh, there were such youth evenings. and so we went there with many artists and everyone

went to yalta. but i stayed, evpatoria, i’m a director, i say. i say i want to leave. i why me why is everything on me and first of all, we have different music? why would they understand me? he says no, he says, everything is fine in eighty-eight, just here, and july, in my opinion, is the month. eh, i've arrived. uh, viktor tsoi as his girlfriend. so i was embroidering these sequins and sitting there and uh. they helped and supported me there. we were such a mixture of everything that we were friends one day and the song baby i’m worried there was written about me. then the drummer. this is a group. kino already mentioned this. i didn’t know about this, this is the amazing story of viktor tsoi i was sergei penkin’s stylist, he just helped me, sat, laughed , told an anecdote, had fun, altered it. well, i came , his friend helped me there, because i had to do everything with my own hands, because there wasn’t the kind of fabric that you come in now, you just sew it. maybe even just that in general. it’s just that, yeah, i need

to make some kind of loops and the suit is ready, but before all this didn’t exist. attention, you are in a time machine, now we are in the era of shocking rhinestones, sporty chic and exuberance colors, we are discussing those same dashing ones, ninths let's visit. eh, now she lives in her duma and wishes that on sadovoy i’m saying this, i ’ll tell you, i’ll go to the toilet, they’ll help. wait, you can't. well, why can’t i open a huge one, or? now this is their mansion. well, i’m telling you what the hair is like. overheads all over the heated floor are called we dry curls beautifully. well, because it was fashionable then. yes, yes, actually it was so funny. i don't remember anything, it's so funny. these hairstyles are our

nineties. uh, yeah. well, it was fashionable. here you just opened this pandora’s box about the criminalization of the 90s. eh, here. you remember that back then there was a very clear division by style. all these different, uh, social strata of the population have a tracksuit. naturally, they were bandits, it was immediately obvious, but they had two styles. this is a crimson jacket, or this is either a tracksuit. it’s not like that for men and women, it seems to me that you’re a little too accustomed today. yes, no, like, well, a jacket. yes, and you also know this. here. you wouldn't dress like that, yes, 90 it was a crimson jacket and a chain. you wouldn't wear it was for me too, it was just for fun , it was good, damn, the moronic hangers are moronic. so, it’s huge, and there are these foam rubber ones, like a closet. well , because it was of good quality, we didn’t have things , everything was just some kind of consumer goods, the

coolest. if you're good, here it was on my sleeve. this label is always right here. it had to be peeled off. for some reason, our lads decided that no, on the contrary, civility is that here you have to be right. and now again i want to add yes to this now he’s one of the italian designers, but he released this collection in the nineties, and even the same label here says 1999. well, let's go back. yes, first the mother will give quality to the parting, then some suit went away, then a green suit, then a red suit. and in 1986 , the first foreign cars appeared. now there is no such thing. now everyone dresses quite straight. that is, based on your style of clothing, you can never tell before it was even like this before , how much did you buy there for say a suit for 3,000 i bought gold for five, you complete fool, that is, you paid more money than you did. why was this

considered better? well, then people started counting money, then everything became different and everything was sewn. yes, there were very few russian designers then who could not, firstly, the hare was a very good designer. very good. and you know, i didn’t dress for him, but according to his design there was a long coat there , i remember how now there was such a brooch and a black horse cap, uh, some interesting ones. i think that the hare was a very cool designer and was a friend with pergacordion. there and in general. well, it was very beautiful if they take our fashion from our clothes. all, uh, all these fashion designers, probably quilted down jackets , these felt boots, as they are called now. uh, even now, just now if i remember this, they take a lot from our styles, then

the first boots with locks from coco chanel, in my opinion, someone there uh took, uh, an example of our galoshes there. this is all, uh, it comes from us too , yes, but this is directly russian style. this is a separate direction in world science. right now you have the attitude towards stage costumes has changed compared to the nineties, when i wanted it to be brighter, longer they are different, you know, now there is a lot of hmm, everything is bright. i don't want to go like this. eh, i want everything against the current of these, i want something different. what are you planning for the next concerts? what outfits? well , for example, if the costume is a symphony orchestra, then you can go out in a tailcoat. there with a shiny vest. some such interesting things, which again are not strange like everyone else’s. this can be done something from the nineties. you left it in your wardrobe. are there any

things that are dear to you, which are some kind of memory associated with some events. well, the suit that is there, and the cloak made of laser discs. eh, where did you perform in it? i remember it’s strange, like why markalma? it’s so unknown here how he’s known, after all, he’s a stadium and gathers in italy in france in germany, it seems in the nineties he was also known now, but here i don’t know, and so we performed with him, i also have such a platform there was, that is, uh time passes, but somehow you change, you want to stay in that style, but more you are growing up, and so that it doesn’t seem funny from those times, you have some things that evoke, just some warm memories, you don’t want to rid them of them with a stone suit. and this is the famous cap. yes, when i leave, at the end the hall is already

exploding. the symbol of the 90s is screaming, as if from the past , yes, well, maybe, yes, well, the nineties collapsed not only physical boundaries, but also the boundaries of our perception and and everyone began to dress more shockingly, everyone began to read some completely different literature, watch movies that's all. this weighs heavily on us. influenced. these are the things that still inspired you, that everything has changed. it became so good that cherkizon opened up to ride on the table to see more and travel. i don’t know, all sorts of museums, uh excursions, and so on. we began to simply live a real life, which we envied back then. looking there, it's television. but what things did you bring first? here are some

crazy ones from these foreign trips. everything was crazy for me. i 'll tell you my first trip was abroad. you can speak. uh, i think so, yes, hungary says, wait, borrow this he says it happened to me too, i don’t remember now. i was still married; i had, like, it seems to me, only 300 dollars. and maybe more. well, for some reason it seems so to me, well, it doesn’t matter. the main thing is that i brought, and i brought two huge bags and a third. i was full of pots and pans. because when and then there is also the hostess yes , that’s why i understand normally, that is, what are you talking about, not only things there was a shortage, there was a shortage of everything, there was a shortage of a good life. we had one hat made of uh, silver borer, and

foxes for the whole family, and when i dressed her , i tied the ears, here are the ears. when mom put them on , she let go of the ears. there was also one jacket for everyone with deer for my brother, and for me in the first half of school. if he doesn’t have it there, then i will then have nothing, but at home there was everything: a carpet and a wall with legs and a biryusa refrigerator and a tv. eh, zenit or what? and everyone went as if they were on an excursion? this is the excursion they took us on. listen, when you started just like that, just like on stage and away from charging, that is, words like this were always possible, not in childhood there were opportunities like this to get dressed, well, the opportunity to buy the first shirt is nothing. perhaps the military shirt is green, i cut off the shoulder straps, made them leather , made this leather strip, this strip , leather pockets, these are all leather manzhediks, we cut off the leather there. from where it was necessary and painted with potassium permanganate further on the openwork, an association of women passionate about

needlework. listen to the circle and took the surrounding normal treatment. they just knew who i was talking to. no, you didn’t have to come up to me, and no one ever said anything bad. i could catch up, and grandma too time not to approach him, heavy hand, move away from him, better smile there and run away. and when did you start working so actively in the field of pop music? you probably didn’t have time to take care of your wardrobe before you went into a trance. adults when i was. well, of course, it was eleven or cher when we came to our country. oh, i had alisher on mtv liszt was also tolkacheva, of course, yes , i really liked it, but they still take it into account, in general, i wanted, when i came to the stage, i wanted to explain everything to me at once poor thing, that’s why i had costumes, oh, guard, and it was beautiful as it was, mmm. listen to

all the most fashionable things. this is just the most chic . mom couldn't be reached. this is an exclusive if someone has feathers, all this is all the ceiling. this is the pinnacle of everything you had, right? no , well, in fact, it was on the same highway. when we went out to buy cognac, we were traveling from city to city on the big bus with the ballet with irina at night the highway costs varnish. eh, there’s a window behind bars, a grandmother sitting with a candle inside, but this is the nineties. yes, you know, there’s a stall on the highway, what a top. there are artists, potatoes come, artists, everything is right there and our bus. do you remember that the bus has unique steps - they chick-chick drove out to the exit steps. oh, this is such a grandma. i think what the hell kind of candle is this ira candle ? it turns out i’ll buy it myself. that's it, let's go and let the suit loose. we just came from the concert like this. everything is all because of what and if

the zaire’s back is because there is no one to guard. myself and my grandmother are so suited to the virgin mary virgin mary ira is such that the dollar says two dachshunds. this is cognac from such a long bottle, shit complete. well, what happened? it was really a beautiful costume, and sashka’s shocking, spectacular one in one direction, i’ll touch the other one, i have such beauty in my head. we even have photographs. let's take a look at your images. how beautiful, yes, this inexpensive dress, in general, right? this is what alisher did. and this, in my opinion, here you are a real paris hilton. oh, never mind, these are some brands, no. and this is alisher on the right. yes, this is a russian designer, yes, who

dressed us all then, this is this, and this is a handbag. look now just as fashionable absolutely and that’s where your bottle fits, which you bought on the road that night. no , they're not like that, damn it. this long one is not a joke. yes and you are with me. see which also, by the way, is relevant today, yes, yes, and boots fit there too. if you see, if you want, then you can do anything. where is this pink dress on the left from? and this, in my opinion, was a sheet of tolkachev awl and on top there was such transparent plastic silk boots. yes, yes, russian designers are mine. this is the average one. this is me saying again that the dress is inexpensive somewhere i got it bought it. i don’t know where i put it together beautifully already ? do you see? why did you show it at all? nightmare sasha, it’s clear that our people also have taste, and in my opinion, on the right you performed somewhere on the new wave, right? it's not. it was

song of the year. it was a supermarket, 2002, i think. it's so beautiful here. very beautiful. and what kind of white fur coat do you have, sash ? it was luxurious in the photo. i don’t remember the guys on the right, it was the first fur coat. uh, diesel. yes, there was earflaps. and in general , earflaps from novosibirsk. this is actually my hat, in which i wore a fur coat at home in winter, and shorts these shorts are panties from the dim company. eh, just ordinary. oh, i just folded it on the elastic band, it was written dima, well, the company has passed, and the coat is still on the jester or shersha coat, and the boots are straight. you were talking about boots, too , they couldn’t buy them. you see these, you have this turtleneck, you have inexpensive designer boots. these are not the military, these are the ones who have already found these fittings, but these are ordinary panties. i don't try moth, i'm scared to death. yes,

that's it. yes, this is the polish magazine ladosha. what kind of image are these pants? these ones, the arab ones, are the leather ones in the golf club at mosfilmovskoe, also embroidered, right? then they embroidered it themselves. well, of course, well, help. someone else from the ballet needs a jacket for me. you definitely brought a jacket. where? i brought it. there were also suede boots. i also made these brooches on the sides of the boots. well, it was great, i even knew that, uh, we were supposed to have a party. i knew my mother on german. i even have a letter from warsaw somewhere. they generally lived modestly and were not rich. it’s a pity that anna didn’t know them, so he knew them

with her husband, son, anna german and now with her mother. here they are from russia, and she taught. here's stone vest, she taught german and russian in warsaw. did you also perform there? yes , in 1988 - these were some kind of youth evenings. and so we performed in warsaw and you are performing in budapest. uh, maybe even in latvia when the whole party went, and he turned off my microphone in the stadium, the lights went out, and i started singing. santa was treated suleimil i don’t remember without a microphone, a large stadium acoustics and such after that applause because at that time many people didn’t really want to survive, because the equipment. it was not the same. but even now i

sing live at concerts. and this is probably like an exercise for you, that you can even do it in 2 years. uh, the oven is alive, like an athlete constantly plays sports there. and this is a continuation, this is coming , this is some kind of glint right there, some scary thing with a photograph , a question, we are sitting very close. you probably know how good it is that you have oily skin, because i didn’t do any plastic there is nothing, no wrinkles at all, because the skin is oily. i had a cosmetologist. she now lives in another country and she is 85 years old, i think she is always on kalininsky prospekt new arbat now , orlova’s love was engaged in svyatologa. that is, such a story was going up the stairs so that no one would know, i had more wind or a hat pulled on it and let it pass.

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get a deferment of the first payment for up to 90 days tinkoff is the only one. and we continue our dive into the nineties. tell us more besides clothes. what status symbols there were, then pagers, mobile phones , limousines began to appear, which were very often rented even on new year’s, when you were working several concerts. i specially rented a limousine for new year. yes, you need a car and a big one for a day, so that the dancers can fit in, and so on. everything was filmed in style , you need a museum, you’ll drive up on it as we were turning around. as usual, we stopped in the courtyards and wrote that we were walking to the club. this is why he wouldn’t go anywhere, to any club. well, it was fashionable, in short, there were also cell phone pagers. i told you that the guys had your mobile phone when

they lost me in moscow, that’s where my career began. and then the guys gave me this heavy piece of garbage. this one , i didn’t know how to call it, to be honest, but i knew there was a separate thing there, a separate thing with a handle. here's the thing with the pen. and here’s some other wire like this, lord, i could only answer. when i don't type i knew then i started. i'm still not comfortable with technology at all. i saw my phone today. it was unrealistically cool. that is, if a person with this huge handset had to do everything to make a call. this is some kind of masculine bullshit, in order to seem cooler they cut off these some kind of tubes from the phone and radio. just like that, adding, like, like, this is not a radio tape recorder, they turned it around to face them and carried it around, as if it were and this is a radio tape recorder, remember, the radio tape recorder takes it, but you don’t remember from the car, so as not to steal it. i remember everything car windows, of course. will become