kefir, and yes, the arranger of the music was dmitry tyomkin, a composer who is one of the greatest american composers of such well popular music. this is irving berlin, who is actually from the kanter family. yes, i came and they are all natives. it's from somewhere around here. yes, and american music, you know their lands, and here is american music of the 20s, late twenties and thirties. she was very similar even to the forties, and uh, she was similar to what our composers did xx i just wanted to tell more about it nothing, and then you know when you want to grab a bun. you must first, uh, sow the bread, uh, squeeze it into flour, make it, there, and so on. this is an inevitable process. nothing worked out, and i was forced to come up with a theater, which we created with david shmelyansky together with sasha popov, who, unfortunately, no longer exists. we

understood that we were doing one project. and then we will need to move somewhere, because we incurred a lot of debts, we did not fully understand what we were getting into. and this is purely adventurism, of course, but when you bet a musical is an expensive business. and uh , debts appear and they must be repaid. i said that i would die. uh, then when we pay off all the debts, that's why we do a lot of countries and i'm not glad that he forgave the ocean 15 times he drowned oh. but he never even blinked an eye, and in trouble and in battle he sang his captain’s song everywhere.

captain captain, only the brave obey , dear friends, if only the artistic director of the moscow musical theater were in front of us today, then we could probably sit down until the morning, in general, but mikhail efimovich is also a special representative of the president for international cultural affairs. yes, we talked to you and it was very interesting. that's all that's happening to me these days, and i generally treat it as if i'm watching some kind of movie that's not with me at all , you know, well, we noticed that, well,

you know, i wanted to do a project, and it turned out to be a theater musical, you know, they were trying to find a little money for culture, and then somehow he brought it, and so, in general, they wanted to make the program, but it suddenly became popular. yes, something like this, in general, mikhail thank you for this mood that you give us and have given us, i’m sure you will give us many more years to come, and life. i watched the broadcast with you this morning and they gave you a tie and said that mikhail viktorovich, we know that you collect ties. and you still, in general, no. no, in no case, and i decided to give you a tie from us with the piano, which is in the bushes. you see, here is the tie. and let him be somewhere in your corner from us. why why? i'm very grateful to you? yes, thank you very much, but i understand that you can’t wear it to the ministry of foreign affairs.

uh, due to the, so to speak, frivolity of uh , happiness, and you will lead it in this tie. you know, i really value the fact that uh, when 15 years ago i, uh, sergei lavrov accepted his team. and i ’m really very good at it there, because my ministry is a lot of human things and in general, professional, a lot, really, friends. thank you this was a creative industry podcast on channel one. this is the anniversary issue on the occasion of mikhailachakov's anniversary. thank you very much. thank you bye. call me for your eighty-fifth birthday. okay good. thanks a lot.

this podcast is a must read by aglaya on batnikov. my guest today is boris chernyshov, deputy chairman of the state duma. we will discuss the book moscow and muscovites by vladimir gilyarovsky . hello boris, that is, for me moscow is so dear. this is more a part of my heart soul very well. well, vladimir gilyarovsky wrote this book of essays in late uh, nineteenth. yes, he has it covered. this will be a description of moscow somewhere from the end of the 19th century to the beginning of the 20th century at this time there were big changes, including social ones and everything. he captured this. in these essays, because he was originally a journalist and reporter. he had the nickname uncle gelyai. uh, judging by what we read in the book. he was such a guy who partied, that is, he and the actors were fun and the most

interesting thing was crime. authorities, yes, that is, he managed to describe the khitrovsky market, which was such a criminal area. that's sukharevka lubyanka okhotny ryad the belly of moscow this world described by gilyarovsky seems to you that this world has preserved something and brought it into our time, that is, something has been preserved from moscow. now he is reading this book. we can learn something, firstly, this book should be read, maps of moscow in general . everyone should learn. i always when i open a book of one kind or another. i'm trying to find something of my own, something for myself. i found it here too. tell me honestly, count governor general. chernyshov, he built this house. uh, the most famous on tverskaya, where now city hall, located. maybe this is also some kind of my ideal relative. there's a surname there. his run is over. well , they often confused the passport on the table. yes, yes, in one family there are so many different surnames. well, that's not the point at all. eh, there is moscow about which i read in moscow and

muscovites. could only be described by him, because his biography is incredible, he himself came to the vologda comrade. by the way, he describes his first meeting with moscow , that is, some teachers lead him at night and start singing ahead of time, and he lives here bruce's sorcerer is spoken of in this tower. well, that is , moscow immediately opens up to him in some kind of physical way, yes, such a country, but another important thing is that he could not have been such an extreme sportsman if he had not tried different professions for himself. here he is burlak until he was twenty. he went from being a laborer who tried working with his hands to joining the military. eh, and so, he changed me from me, but the most important thing is not that he changed these professions, but that he saw different types of people, whom he described in moscow , completely different characters from cunning bandit to the house of the moscow mayor, where the whole world is there, he has merchants they are poor artists

yes, beginners, he wrote, as if all social strata, all social countries and the book itself is built, as if from the very bottom we begin to read to the brilliance and charm of eliseev . that is, like all our days and, in fact, like khitrovka. well, i mean, the name of the districts. yes , sukharevskoe crackers, even now, when driving to your place to sign up for our e, you see this cracker is completely different. yes, there were taverns there. yes, there was a place there. um, where is this one? flea market, by the way, there are practically no flea markets left in moscow; there is only one on suschevsky val. there he describes it on a cracker. this is the famous flea market where collectors found. they found everything, and it exists according to its own laws among those who came to trade at the level of pennies, and then sold it for a lot of money. you know what i liked most. what distinguishes today's moscow and today's russia from those years. never again, probably, unfortunately, will we

see something so delicious. in the best possible way this word. he tells the description of the profession of ordinary people to pro-traders. he talks about the merchants from an honest point of view and even describes the horrors. yes, these children that we traded on the trick so that they would not disappear. yes, they collected alms. eh , these are the terrible lives of these apprentice boys from the village who are sent to study with shoemakers. well, some bathhouse attendant and how they beat them and force them to work a lot, they run away and packs of these street children fall for this trick. this is the circle of life and the most interesting thing is that this is moscow in those years. it was not such a huge metropolis as it is today, and this concentration of all the most severe deficits in one point, approximately 10,000 people, lived in these barracks in these

buildings. in these taverns they stole , killed bandits and their friends. yes, they were drinking there in the morning. well, in the evening at night, yes, my stepson had to come there, because there was a hectic life in these taverns. eh, steam was pouring out. yes, when they left, steam poured out, and that was all. and then there are these coachmen. here. where are you now will you read it? eh, a story about a taxi driver. i think that this is gelior’s genius, it lies precisely in the fact that he managed to take and write what people did not describe, because we did not read, appeared there, and even writers. we are reading. naturally, about the relationships of people there, well, we guess roughly the structure of society, but there we understand more about how the upper class is, and here is such an excellent description. there are such details there, how the baths are arranged. eh, what kind of soles do the boots have , paper or leather? uh, like a poet of horses these cab drivers, how do they differentiate? who

can i contact, but it seems to me that this, uh, he decided to document, but very accurately, some everyday things that are now terribly interesting to read. the truth of life is a descriptor so detached from the socio-political space. he was a leader of public opinion. that is, everything is yes, that is, all his sketches. he gave respect to those in power and now the moscow governor-general decides, uh, to tackle the problem with cunning. yes, by the way, i want to tell you that for me this book is complete, uh, so-called hyperlinks, because i ’m reading this zakrevsky one. he played a very large role in the biography of the playwright dry mare, also to write. or i also did a program about him and, uh, it was also a matter of having personal enemies, but he was sent to prison. and then i read and then zakrevsky appears again, that is, such an important character and there is anton pavlovich chekhov who walks around.

the artist there is described there, bazhov. well , that is, there are some of these namedropping there, yes, it’s very correct and when you read it, some hmm crosses arise in your mind, these links. yes, gorky is there. at the bottom of this, already a description of this trick makes you want to look. what's in those historical buildings now? well, the house of the moscow governor general is incredibly beautiful, and the moscow city hall is all used for its intended purpose, and during the revolutionary period. lenin spoke there and his moscow workers occupied it, here is a building on lubyanka. what is this? this is also a building that was used. and in general, you open it and look like this. what was there in these places? yes, here, uh, tsarsky is exactly like that. here is the tsar's torture chamber the order was a secret order all this. you know,

little by little you see how it connected the story and how some things did not change. i really liked the material about okhotny ryad in moscow, but it’s absolutely absolutely there. and what does the gluttonous series have to do with it? i really liked it there for a penny, you could buy it there. there were also some fast food items for a penny. you could buy cabbage soup for five kopecks. fried potatoes or leontievsky, there is a bakery on the alley there, there was filippova and here he is, and he sells meat pies there. well it's delicious there described with meat and cabbage, by the way, who is watching us and wants to go to the refrigerator. it’s better not to eat in the evening, i say right away, eh, and here he describes it all. and so, students and minor government employees also ate there. same here. here's a little further away. now let's go up to pushkinskaya there. this is the very first fast food that opened in russia. everything, these are the places

that connect our lives and history, so gilyarovsky is a must read. there he says interesting things. by the way, about advertising, the first advertisement in russia and in moscow there were moscow milkmen who sold milk in the center of moscow on okhotnaya ryad and so on, they showed that we were not selling what was there for more than one day and at 5:00 they poured it on the pavement this is an interesting topic there, and gilyarovsky he somehow shows moscow such a mystical secret. it's there all the time. some kind of second. the bottom is, there is some kind of secret life, that is, he and some characters there mean, uh , a person who dealt with bandits, but never left his home. he had a tame turtle or some kind of son of a rich man who dressed up in different outfits for parties and took with him a tame tigress like that, and the loss. another public person. there are always some kind of secrets there, which means that they look like shops, but we know what they actually accept there. some basements contain

secrets and he goes down as a digger. yes, these are the underwater lands of the neglinka river, the neglinka of which a few weeks ago, when they descended with these diggers, to understand and see this hidden from the eyes of others moscow and there he says, there is a certain secret and a lot is devoted to the author’s view of this. do you think he was actually a mystic or is he more of an anecdote? it seems to me that he was always a mystical marketer , something mystical. well, what are you looking at? well, i don’t know, but uh, uncle vasya went to sing some pies. so what? well, who will read this, but here he is trying to give some references. and here is how he descends, like a weight, just like today. he says we're going down the stairs. and i feel this the stench and no one bothers us. these are the things he gives. here, as you correctly said, hyperlinks are references, and try it , as if he is telling the reader, and try it yourself.

this podcast is a must read. i'm looking at batnikov. today my guest is boris chernyshov, deputy chairman of the state duma, we are discussing vladimir gilyarovsky’s book moscow and muscovites. it seems to me that it is not in vain that this social portrait of moscow is being built from the bottom to the top. yes but i i still feel criticism of tsarist russia that there are no social elevators there, that everyone turns a blind eye to these ulcers. let's just say that the city in the form of this is a trick. yes, very picturesque, but nevertheless really dangerous criminal areas, and he says that only the political will of soviet power, that he describes the beginning of the 20th century, too, that is, already under soviet power, for example, this neglinka is being rebuilt. yes, this, which was clogged all the time not with frequencies, but only a certain political will, uh, well, the government, that means, made it possible to decide some of these problems are both social and

city problems. eh, what do you think? he glorified the soviet regime sincerely in the historical context. the bolsheviks have arrived. they took a rather repressive approach to all, uh, elements of criticism. and here he understands that he is working, the number of those moscow publications that exist is decreasing, other opportunities for him are collapsing, how to write, or he has a dilemma, by and large, consisting of two elements of choice: either agree and sing. the new, uh, powers that hold the mighty of the world either go to opposition and lose that thing, that comfort that you have. he is no longer a young man. there is a moment and such a struggle. i disagree, because it seems to me that he sincerely feels revolutionary ideas. he even describes the story, a certain romanticism that was characteristic of the revolution in the first years, of course, he feels like a writer. he himself , uh, challenged, going down uh, into. well, not glinka

into underground waters. he himself is a revolutionary who leads other writers and tries to show cunning. eh, everything is completely different were afraid. he challenged gilyarovsky. there he feels like a fish in water. that is, he means that he is respected. there are these bandits and beggars there too. yes. this is interesting. you see. this is such an incredible context, in fact, judging by his biography. now, if you look, he always goes to the face, he is not afraid, but nasukharevka, trying on himself, and the role. e of such a collector , a collector of history, first of all, someone comes to the history of selective history, that the gilding collected history, of course, on a trick. he is already his own bandit, who uh, he’s getting used to this uniform for himself, or he looks like a policeman. let's put it this way. here in literature there is such a concept as not reliable, a storyteller, but gilyarovsky

is reliable. we believe him, that is, we understand that he really knows this life from the inside, yes, these merchant clubs are there, what they dine on and know at the same time. eh, like these crayfish, yes, there live tailors who sing the last shirt and never leave their hole, and they seem to be owned by these people who rent out an apartment to them, they work for them alter stolen items. well, that is, these are the kind of observations that a person can make from the inside, really, what is the motivation next to the trick, uh, there are still a large number of houses of famous merchants , here morozov is sitting here, other mammoths, and he is given the opportunity to do an editorial task. go and go. you write down what horrors are happening and present them to the moscow authorities. let them solve our problems too. and we can finance this whole story. and you are like that . why not? why not? he is the leader of public opinion, and the rest are afraid the rest understand that the entrance is a ruble , the exit is life. well, yes, and he’s going on this

literary assignment. in this regard , everything is mixed up here, including politics in an attempt to change for the better the life of the capital and the lives of those, by and large, doomed who ended up there, he was doomed. he's here at the bottom. here he falls there, a good expression, former people, that is, these people there who live on khitrovka, who live there on sukharevka , also in some of these uh, houses. eh, where the beggars and thieves gather. well in general criminal elements, but we can say that this is the world of former people, of course, and gilyarovsky somehow feels himself with them, we can say on an equal basis, because he still enters this world. yes, what an antithesis, like the resistance of two worlds, he shows the world of former people, and here on a revolutionary upsurge. he talks about the future about those changes. he says, they tore down, uh, one of the pits there , they tore down an entire building in order to improve

it in order to solve the problem. crime in a particular area, here he shows how capitals are changing. this is for the very best. yes, it makes you look better. moscow yes, what can we say? eh, about such a character as moskvich it seems to me that moskvich is not at all the person who was born in moscow and not even the one who lives in it. and this is a certain type of character that is so mythological, and muscovites are not liked by residents of other russian cities and about muscovites. probably, you can even collect anecdotes. that is, for example, there, uh, a moskvich in moscow will always get lost. that is, there are some anecdotal, let’s say these patterns about muscovites that can be ridicule. yes, but at the same time. they are probably true in their own way. here, uh, gillirovsky, yes, uh , so to speak, moskvich is a conscious person who wanted to become a muscovite, and to describe uh, this life of muscovites. so we can say that he may have dropped it. this is the basis of this

mythology, muscovites. i think no, you know here, of course, a moskvich is, uh, in many ways the one who was born here, because for many years. uh, living. and in the capital, he becomes saturated, especially living in the city center. he is here all the time in this context. some entertainment, parties, conversations may be incomprehensible to those, even slang, you know, everything was clear. i didn't have any interesting words. there, for example, to ban the slan. why, their bandits are there, banging on from the lamps at night, that is, they are dismantling this olympic workshop. this is also having this, which many people think, but you know, mainly to moscow, for me, moskvich is someone for whom the city is home, after all, you often see how people walk, they can spit on the street, they throw a candy wrapper of some kind of agryz. i can't afford this. well, i won't come home i won’t spit on the wallpaper, but my family will kill me because of this,

it’s unpleasant to prick this point at home, right? maybe domestic violence is a joke too. well, this is the very caring attitude towards the city; someone will pass by the building. that's all, and you go and look. that's how different they are. i spend a lot of time on my education. and here we are at the russian biotechnological university, i see a dormitory somewhere , some wall is peeling off, somewhere there are some problems. you will come again and help somehow. eh, somewhere you’ll wipe it yourself you will remove it somewhere, this is important and also the city , muscovites are those who invest in themselves in the city. here every day he works through his taxes and pays for a fair amount, the city is good. this is the best. these are the same people i've met, especially this summer, who are at home. here he is planting some roses next to the house. eh, hmm, some tulips are pruning the trees to

make it beautiful. and for yourself and for others, for you , a moskvich is a person who, uh, loves the space around him and is somehow bullied that’s right, despite the insane size , the insane number of people, but it’s still a house, uh, they love the scope and scale. well, by the way, moscow is wide and big. this is what makes her different. moscow is still an opportunity, the opportunities that hitler spoke about, including still describing some hellish horrors there, these uh bathhouses, where they perform some kind of bloodletting on people. that is, this is how it feels. still, there is uneducated savagery there. yes. eh, the anti-blue tariff of some hellish dandovian circles. it's just, that is, uh, i have there is no sense that he is praising any social system at that time. it seems to me that it’s the other way around, but points out how unfair modernity and beauty salons are, where some kind of tube is inserted there

. it’s not clear what kind of needles are being forced into the human body . in fact, the sophistication of gilyarovsky’s entire reading lies in the fact that that it cannot be read, divorced from the context of today , a lot has changed, but people remain the same people with their passions; it is reproduced absolutely, that is, the moscow matrix gilyarovsky self-reproduces. he described this matrix and showed it. look, there is also part of the description of the city about traffic rules about how their cheeks roll around moscow. he says there are no rules. yes, there are no traffic rules, he goes wherever the countries want modern scooters, well , i don’t know either, or it’s hacky. just yesterday, i was walking through the city center in the evening, but the sounds even flew by. they are uh only sounds, yes, and all muscovites wake up from this and live. this is

how stressful it was then because of these things, that's how he is today. well, what's one thing i like? well, we’re talking about muscovites, about moscow, you understand, after all. eh, moscow of that period was a sociable moscow. all saturated, permeated with the communication of different people, and now moscow is lonely, lonely in a person, lonely, you mean that a person lives more withdrawn yes, i don’t know about my neighbors in the stairwell, but here they are all in, uh, high society in clubs in all sorts of uh, the middle and lower strata communicate, they come to some taverns. well they are talking. yes? let's get this out of the way: there was no virtual communication, there was only offline communication. they could meet. you know, uh. i have a lot of friends now making friends, and i am forming families. it was only through the fact that they talked somewhere on the internet that they met. there they began to write off on social networks, but this is no longer the case so that i could approach beautiful girls, in

a red jacket your name is. i'll be amazed. well , yes, it’s a pity, of course, that this doesn’t happen anymore. this podcast is a must read. i'm looking at batnikov. my guest today is deputy boris chernyshov chairman of the state duma, we are discussing the book by vladimir gilyarovsky moscow and muscovites. let's sum up something about geliorovsky. that is, he is gilyarovsky, and he is a writer or he is a documentarian, that is, he created an artistic world, and by bringing something there with the optics of his hero or , after all, he was a talented one, he recorded certain realities, that is, we can say that this is all -it's a work of art, of course. this is a work of art. he included what he himself saw through perception another person, perhaps both moscow and gilyarovsky’s muscovites would be completely different through the person. e, who would have lived in

moscow or been raised in just one cohort. here in this category of merchants of course, he wouldn’t even go down there for a tricky trick, he would talk about the brilliant scores in the house of governor general chernyshov . you know, this is right again you’re talking about chernyshov well done, did you like it? i like it good. a? and what about boris? what do you remember, uh, just share some of the most interesting ones from the book? moments that were remembered, maybe terrible, maybe beautiful, but for us to do something like this, uh, short, yes, like a blitzkriek for the audience of the terrible. probably this is a story about a beautiful girl who is trying so hard to escape from this trick, but like tina, this khitrovka sucks back the pennies of rubles she earned. she comes back with this money and sings the same way as she drinks away her life hmm this is a beauty who is fading before our eyes

, this is the image that i remember from uh so unpleasant, and the uh, remarkable thing is probably the partying of students, uh, who break into the hermitage, which has been cleaned in advance , all the furniture has been removed, sawdust has been sprinkled on some wooden things, and they are partying. on tatiana's day. they go out, drink, have fun, and thereby show that there is, that life exists, and it will make its way, but you still have to be an optimist. for example, i remembered these descriptions of these street vendors who, as you say, sell this fast food, some kind of tripe. eh, smelly sausage. they are sitting in these pots, that is, there is some kind of the middle ages but at the same time, i understand that this is just the end of the nineteenth century. it was not so long ago and you can pull your hand. and you. eh, that’s basically where you’ll end up. in this

story, yes, that is, you can, uh, feel it somehow even energetically and truly. well okay and so on. they were selling tripe now, it could be some kind of hot dogs, but nevertheless you get the idea. still, this is the nature of the relationship between the street, uh, and these different social layers. this, of course, is great. and , of course, i was also, uh, able to hear stories about poor artists. here. uh, that someone was lucky someone was hanging out. and which of the poor people was the topic? it was very difficult to get through, and even i found out that savrasov, uh, there in the buffet , he painted pictures for food, because he drank and, in general, these are phrases. there he says that they disdained all education and all high society. and the reason is only because of social injustice, and not talented people. they could have been the best on the course, the best at the new school when they graduated, when i wrote, yes, but they were offended.

it came down to this being the case today, so now it would be important for talented students to have the opportunity to develop professionally, so there are platforms like the russia side of opportunities as elements of tavriida, where creative guys can try themselves, and creative people. this is great. it’s so cool that they appeared today. and by the way, sometimes we forget about this, we don’t have it, than friends, let’s read, read generalovsky, count muscovites to moscow and understand that there are some things that have changed for the better, of course, in general you need to wander around moscow, you definitely need to go into the chest and look at the entourage that muscovites of that time encountered. i really like that such points themselves are being restored and, most importantly, the demand for this incredible excursion. there are courses on moscow, yes, on such courses on moscow, it’s like you live in the city and don’t know, well, like real moscow. you never know what ’s going on around you, you know that the most important thing is that today there is an opportunity to still feel old moscow not everything

is gone. this is through the temple of these frames wonderful ones that are being restored. which rise golden domes, incredible domes, these uh, are being restored. yes, you can stop and go somewhere to the central market. uh, here are the crackers, returning to the center, uh, through the non-clay one, you can go into these temples to see how everything works there, to touch that moment, because maybe there are temples. they , like the egyptian pyramids, stand in several times at once and you are not out of time. yes , and you go there and fall into the past. yes, this is interesting. here are the moves intersections. these are the power lines. by the way, i didn’t see much about arbat from gidrovo. well, there is, by the way , the arbat is some place that is not covered, an incredible place. i advise everyone about moscow if we talk about it.

uh, here, where the government of the russian federation is and not far away there is a temple, and the physical great martyrs come there. uh, an incredible entourage, uh, which is interesting not only to those who are responsible for architecture, but also for people deeply, believers whose faith is in their hearts and there in these moments or uh, incredible, and the church of st. clement of the pope in moscow there is a point where napoleon stood and, by the way, there is an ancient temple, probably some kind of temple is going here. eh, revolution. yes, something else, by the way, gilyarovsky survived at this time of the revolution, first he describes , especially among students, how this student energy splashed out onto the streets of moscow description of uh, sukharevka, where uh some revolutionary masses came and in some the moment someone there kicked out the owners and stopped being the owner of the evolution of express acceptance. we

simply won’t pay for the floors we rented in order to warm up our homes. they found huge warehouses where there were some reserves of vodka. yes, yes, yes, people still knew how to count coins, they never stopped being able to. i would say okhotny ryad now. but uh the meeting is, accordingly, obvious. eh, noble assembly. now this is what is the name of the columned hall of the house of the union. uh-huh. here it is, and here the state duma stands. that is, where it used to be, if i correctly perceive, uh, how the picture is located, well, in moscow, in fact, there are many ancient buildings left, which are also over time they echo this truth and that’s good. that is, we still put a little money in moscow. we can see that it is necessary to preserve, and protect it, because this is the last one - these are the issues of patriotic

education. nowadays we have a situation where you can’t become a patriot under fire. here. hit, uh, a baton to the head and the man said, oh, as you know, how much i love countries, well, patriotism was done in a deeply intimate way, no, but another point is that it needs to be cultivated in oneself. just looking at moscow that you didn’t come to see this is a place, and here are some glass and concrete buildings. this is a huge city with a lot of history. also, russia, i once experienced such a feeling for the country when i flew from moscow to irkutsk and i looked at the window at our country, a giant green sea, taiga, these rivers of the city, you know, rising above our country on an airplane. you see these city stars and a huge star. this is the sun of russia, it’s red and golden. this is incredibly light. the exact deed is our

moscow, there were three romes. there is no other way, boris here's the question. uh, if there was such a reporter today, yes, vladimir gilyarovsky fearless, uh, so that he could describe today, that is, what places like these key energy points in moscow today could be added uh, to his points there are such reporters , and there are a lot of them. they think that there are a lot of people with such talent. yes, there is no such talent, but to search or those who are looking for themselves, who discover new things, collect new stories. there are a lot of them, they are told in a language that the generation perceives. uh, generation can't give birth to a second hydraulic if it's focused on uh, instagram and pictures and obviously not pictures and memes the focal word you understand the word can only be mastered in conversation it can be honed when you

talk to different people you find the words. for everyone from a person who has lost. house to a billionaire or high official, uh, etc. here's for each category for each person. you can find that very word and then you form your literary talent, which pours out on the page of books in a different way, not through communication. impossible to become uh, write as a writer, but now there are incredible ones. eh, wonderful writers who are now describing these interests, of course, the focus has shifted to the hottest points in this country and the world in every sense. uh, because that's where they see and these writers are looking for drama. and let's think about what other novels we have about moscow, what writers have captured moscow in general, that is, today we are talking about heliorovsky, who made moscow his theme, but still moscow sometimes in some, well, i can remember the rich master and margarita probably yesenin tavern. yes it, by the way, yes, on the curved

streets of moscow. i have god, that is, all these moments they described their parties, their communication, their conversation. what is the significance of the russian writer is that through his life he is deeply social, and he describes and talks about those processes about those processes that are seething in society. yes, going into this tavern to drink a glass of vodka, he encounters his interlocutor, who shares his pain, who talks about his drama, or in each driver. well, of course, yes. why why not? by the way, we have moscow day soon, the day of the city of moscow, so i congratulate everyone on this wonderful holiday, you can definitely read this book. yes, and it is necessary not only to have a moscow day, but a moskvich day. you know, i like it, so let’s focus on the fact that moscow

should feel confident that it will always be exposed from the outside. st. petersburg residents of other cities all of our residents are good. you know, i’m sure you need to understand one thing, that the main thing in moscow is muscovites. here, until they feel like this is their home. by the way, yes, that every district of this street is in the house and you need to love all the districts well boris, thank you for the interesting conversation. i think you picked a great book to discuss. reading is the best. i dream that when i go down the metro i see people reading books. well, it seems to me that they exist, but there should be more of them so that they open it and feel this smell of the printed word. yes and when you turn these pages, then there in conversation or something else. uh, hands you bring it close to your face and smell this paint. thank you very much for an interesting conversation. invite more. this was a must-read for casting. i am the main thing, batnikova. was my guest.

eh, boris chernyshov deputy chairman of the state duma, we discussed the book of essays moscow and muscovites by vladimir gilyarovsky hello this is a podcast of eisenstein's witnesses i am a film historian natalya ryabchikova and my colleague stanislav didinsky are talking about who and how created the famous famous cult forgotten and completely unknown soviet films. and why should we watch soviet cinema now? we delve into the depths of the archives in order to understand how we can watch it now and how we can get the most out of it. hello my name is stanislav dedinsky, i am a historian of film

animation, and today i, together with natalya, will talk about why russian animation day is celebrated on april 8 or march 26 according to the old style, when the premiere of the first russian animated film took place about being an innovative viewer we learned about it much later, and the film was a wonderful lyukanida vladislav stareevich. who is vladislav stareevich? what is a beautiful river? yes when did this even happen? this was in 1912, when no one yet knew the word animation or animation, but some experts knew what time-lapse photography was, with the help of which you can, frame by frame, step by step , bring some objects to life on the screen, well , let’s say, turn the dolls with one handle uh, the second knob by barely noticeable millimeters, then turn the knob of the movie camera, filming one frame onto the film, and later, when this titanic work is done , it all comes to life. extremely inanimate objects begin to move, what did the audience see

then on april 8, march 26, 912. let's see, shall we? here is a secluded corner of the park where geras swears eternal love to lucanida. i swear on my honor, the mustache exclaims: i have never seen a beauty like you, lyu, canida, my heart has never beat or sank as sweetly as near you, and the beautiful lyukanida bows her head on his chest. all of a sudden an angry cry is heard, this is how you fulfill your vows. and you are a game, great, and the audience thought, and in general they had every reason, because the advertising emphasized in every possible way that they were seeing the drama of medieval life, which was played out by natural insects. beetles. and

in fact, these were quite large beetles, and because in order to create these dolls, we don’t know what it takes to create them, but the author specifically used them as prototypes. ahh. horn beetles are such large insects. he vladislav stareevich was an amateur entomologist at the intersection of his interests. he thought that the most suitable material for creating his parade films, and these films were, of course, parodies , costume parodies, and tapes, which were very popular at the box office in those days. well, in general, he decided that he needed to force his insects and the audience believed him to dismantle such a typical scene. why did everyone believe for about a year? why a year, because we know that these films were advertised in exactly this way for about a year in such a manner that these are precisely trained insects and, in fact, the starevich himself went down in history with such a nickname as the trainer zhukov a. they believed and believed not only then more than a few years ago. now people

are absolutely confident. but those who we didn’t tell anything about this, that these are real beetles alexander khanzhonkov vladislav tsarevich, fooled not only russian viewers, they fooled european viewers, because in 1913. and these films were released in english cinemas in the uk and local magazines published an interview with a certain professor lozhkin, who talked about how difficult it is to train insects, that ants cannot be trained. in general, this was a very correct commercial strategy chosen by alexandra bukhanzhenkov. like what industrialists, who was the producer of the film, as they would say today, in order for these films to be promoted on the market and people willingly went to see it because it was an unprecedented spectacle, it must be said why. caesarevich actually became the first, and we recently learned the name of another early russian animator alexander shiryaev, who was involved in both puppet animation and hand-drawn animation, but by his main profession he

was actually a choreographer. he worked in st. petersburg. this was his hobby, he sketched the movements of actors and created dolls in order to remember and then show some steps as a dancer, and this remained his hobby. that is, it was never seen, not by anyone except family friends there, and then it lay for more than a hundred years in home archives. and just at the end of the 20th and beginning of the 21st centuries it was pulled out, and into the light, and the tsarevich had a producer. of course, we didn’t call him that then, but alexander khanzhonkov is the first real russian film producer, as the film producer used to say then. he took tarevich under his wing. yes, he realized that this strange man who prefers to do everything himself , turns the crank of the movie camera himself, and makes his own animals. and if you leave him alone in a locked room

for a while, he will bring you one cartoon, a second cartoon, and, moreover , an old man with his very own. i think, caustic sense of humor, even played with. yes indeed. it's no coincidence that you are films. these were parodies in his hometown of forged, he became famous as the winner of fancy dress competitions, practical jokes and all sorts of things in general, and cartoons, including yes, she drew for the kovno mirror magazine and uh, in the end he decided to move to moscow, which was the graphic center, and the country and to alexander khanzhonkov, to work with him for him and make his strange films. e, alexander dzhonkov. he took a risk and made a bet, but he didn’t know yet. do not put it the old fashioned way not only a master of animation, but also of special effects, which he masterfully created in his later feature films, where he again used the method of time-lapse photography in order, for example, to create the jump of the devil into the pocket of kuznetsov's vacuuli in the film the night

before christmas well, what if talk about his sense of humor, well, let's remember him in the second film, revenge of the graphic operator. there , the main character is a grasshopper, who is out for revenge, and mr. zhukova, who plays tricks with a dragonfly, dances in a cabaret with funny dragonflies, and is in love with her the grasshopper films the scene from alter with a movie camera through the keyhole. and then at the end of the film it demonstrates this and this is another amazing example of the starevich ministry as a master of special effects. and on the cinema screen we see a film within a film let's see, right?

this is a parody of a parlor melodrama. we have a married couple , the husband, who likes to go on business trips, and on this business trip they first visit a cabaret, where beautiful dragonflies dance, and then go with her to the damur hotel, that is, to the hotel of love, where goes a, offended by him, and a grasshopper, who

also works as a cinematographer. this strange device of his is inside his leg, which he turns the handle on. and here is that same, uh, movie camera, and he is that same offended cinematographer, and then they show us what mr. zhukov’s wife is doing at this time. they come to her. uh, its meaning to the artist essay. yes, he draws her portraits. they also show everything there, and then they seem to try it on. uh, well, the wife is going to the cinema. and that's where we see. some absolutely incredible scene by the standards, again 912, 100-odd years ago, we have a screen in a screen, moreover, we see another film inside the film in order to believe it, it seems to me that we need to watch it too. he very

accurately captured the aryan nature of cinema, because the world will look through the keyhole. this is the essence of cinema, because inside its film produced by the factory it shows a logo showing that this is khanzhonkov’s factory. that is, this is some kind of product. cut your own hair. he actually plays very well.

he feels the audience of viewers and, for example, here’s another one, and the story is about his specific sense of humor and understanding of the work of the viewer’s psychology, and there are memories of how he was engaged not only in puppet animation, but also in hand-drawn animation, this is also a well-known experiment of his in this area. basically, he drew a fire on the screen. eisenstein's witnesses and the history of cinema natalya ryabchikova and my colleague stanislav vedinsky are talking about who created russian films and how and cartoons about how we can better understand them and get the most out of them. bye thank you very much, goodbye. on

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