on the pond the star forgives pasha. the one where i will lead you. on that pond where i will lead you. we are back on air this podcast 20 years later and today we are celebrating the centenary of mikhail tanich. our guest is the lesopoval group. let's ask konstantin, he so solemnly holds a long pause that only a serious professional, like a music director, can withstand. say absolute obedience in terms of music, because, well, these are different instruments and

each musician has a different level of preparation. you are the maestro to lead it's easy for guys. anything can happen. mikhail sayevich staged a great heritage and a lot of poems that were not used. yes, and every year an album is released, and who writes the music, and the music, in principle, lumber felling is such an interesting phenomenon in general, so to speak, on the stage, and the russian one, the poems of mikhail tanich, and the music of different composers. moreover, and very simple, each composer has his own taste and style. well, all our famous composers are there, dobronravov alexander igor slutsky konstantin minin e. ilya the spiritual yes

nikita bogoslovsky such a list. yes, that’s just the point and the list is pretty big. yes, people, that’s why he felled the forest, as if he was all different colors. today we talked about the black and white stripes in the life of the great songwriter mikhail isaevich tanich, and we talked with the guys who are directly related to him; this is his favorite brainchild, the lesopoval group was facaste today 20 years later and we thank the guys for what they we came, we remember, with warmth, kindness and with great gratitude to mikhail isaevich and all his legacy that remains with us. this is very cool and now we will listen to the lesopoval group , again not typical for them, a song from the film big change black and white.

who lives? whoever guesses different luck, we often get a simple one, it seems in the direction of black, often simple, it seems, in the direction of black white white black. we choose, we are chosen. how often this does not coincide. i'm a shadow behind you, i'm used to coincidence. i get used

to coincidence, happiness, such a difficult thing often. it seems to be standing to the side, black and white white black now seems simple, absurd black white, white-black. black white white

hello everyone. this is a free program podcast. i'm maxim trankov. and today i have a special guest singer. presenter and the only one with whom i cheated on tatyana volosozhar yuliana karaulova good evening friends, please explain, i wasn’t on the ice for myself, because the fans of our couple with tatyana call me a traitor, because i got paired with yulyana karaulova in during the ice age project. yes, but tanya was in great shape then position you needed to keep yourself busy with something or someone, so i saved you from obesity. that is, you are right, remember how i groaned under you, i remember. yes, i remember , especially the first time when you lifted me up, i was so, yes, i tried to make such an inspired face, because we were performing some number there, and i heard it from behind. oh, that's it, that was fun. tell us how

figure skating came into your life. it came with you, dear. maxim was invited to the ice age project. that is, in when you were a child, you never even thought you were skating, you know, yes, what is he? well, i was skating, and i literally had a couple of classes, so when i was offered to participate in the project. my dad thought i was just a professional. i can do everything. he said, you had three classes as a child, what can you do everything about? here. well, i knew how to drive straight and i knew how to do some sideways. i think that's all, i just didn't notice it. but okay, thank you very much. and then you taught me something. that's when the project ended. maxim told me that he gives my status is unofficial. i have his candidate master of sports, but at the same time he told me that you haven’t learned anything to talk about you. it's like your partner. i don’t know how these two things are compatible, apparently they are. well

, actually, i’ll tell you honestly. at some point i just gave up and told myself that i will just accompany you on the ice, protect you, lift you up and take on more responsibility and teach you. i won't do much of anything. yes, but i want to say that it is really for non-professionals. this is a very complex project. and when i was offered to participate in it. i understood that it would be difficult, but i, probably, being an addicted person. i romanticized this whole process throughout this project. i understood that it would be difficult, but i didn’t think that it would be so difficult, because in my professional activity. this also overlapped with a huge number of events there, including my first big solo concert and the release of an album. i was on it and there was a large amount of promo from all sorts of different tours and literally during the project period i didn’t have a single day off at all, that is, from august to december. of course, i

’m quite tired, but this is a cool memory. it’s a cool experience. the experience is very interesting. of course, i’m very upset that i can’t skate now like i did then, because after all, this is the one. chordov, in which this regular skill is very important and needed. eh, constant training. now it seems to me that i can’t even do anything. if i go out on a raid, but if you’re nearby, maybe something will work out, but in general it’s difficult. i think, when the gum skating rink opens, every winter, there come, uh, different girls who even participated in the same project with us, for example, uh, yulia baranovskaya and so, as soon as she sees me, she immediately grabs it and says, let's go, let's go and i looked with a sad look at my wife. forced to go in pairs, she is in you. let's call a spade a spade. she was clinging to you and so on, when

your partner is taken away by other partners. no, well, i periodically clung in exactly the same way in marina, for example, because maxim explained it very well. you didn't give me much of an explanation. yes, let's go, let's do it this way. but wait, you have something to do with marina, that’s a different story. after all, your friend recommended marina to you as a partner. and you went against the grain. natasha podolskaya advised me when i was offered to participate in the project. i called natasha because she took part in it before me and she said, well, while skating, i would have argued either myself or with marinin, but they offered me you, you were fresh. ahh, fresh blood so to speak, and in general, more for me no one was offered. you and i tried it and somehow we were immediately paired up, but they told me that the champion is fresh, amazing , charismatic, textured, but harmful. that’s

where i wanted to start. eh, now raise your right hand up above what i swear on your shoes. tunisia speaks only the truth. well, tell me about your ice age partner. only everyone already knows the truth. well, actually max is an incredible skater. since you ask me to talk about my partner, i will talk about you in the third person. yes, it will be more comfortable for you to be so embarrassed, as far as i know, i was the first professional person for me. the one you skated with, and in my opinion, the last one. yes, i completely discouraged you from doing such things. so yes, it was simply difficult for maxim to explain to me, he did not understand how i did not understand. why, if it worked once it didn’t

work out the second time at all does this happen? so, of course, max is a very temperamental person, passionate, let’s call it that, and because of this, highly emotional. yelled at me. he beat me, well, he didn’t beat me, he didn’t kick me, but once you pushed me just a little. come on, just imagine, and i remember, and i imagine, i remember, it seemed to me that i was saying, in general, corulova and i were the best couple. that's how we got there. in general, she and i didn’t fight , we were friends, we rode in perfect harmony with each other, and for the first one and a half to two months. probably, you and i really became friends right away, somehow we immediately found a common language and chatted a lot. and then, about two months later, some results began , some first conflicts began. just when and i stayed with you as a couple, they told me, listen, he generally mocks his wife , shouts at her, behaves. don’t understand

how you imagine how he will behave with you, lies, and i looked at this for the first two months. just the lamb of god i thought. so what, vile people tell all sorts of gossip. but then i understood what they were talking about, but then we made peace and everything was fine in the end. and for me, we didn’t talk there for several days, like, then more, but for me it was very an illustrative story when you and i didn’t talk, didn’t say hello, but still came to training every day and went to one of the skating rinks. we had a wonderful jury member. now i won’t name him who offended me and maxim just stood up for me. the raid ran out, it wasn’t on the air, i almost tore my shirt, i said, either i or this man is leaving here and apologizes to yulyana, in short, i repeat, this was cut from the air, but

i was very pleased. i think, well, what a great man. i remember only the good ones unlike yulianna sentry, so i will say that i brought it very well. i tell everyone this, because really , if i had someone else, i knew others there, but you and likakashirin everything there , i probably wouldn’t be able to ride in pairs with anyone else. and this, of course, is not point-blank to other girls. just a reproach to my temperament. i know that it would be hard for me. i remember everything, very funny moments from the broadcasts of lednikovy when, in my opinion, well, one of some of the first, probably, numbers, well, not the first, but somewhere at the beginning of the project, when i played a blind girl, my hobby got stuck in your tweed jacket at the beginning, your hair color fell, which you were supposed to give me at the end. and you, that means we skate there in support. i'm your girl. with an inspired expression on your face and you say in my ear, damn, the flower has fallen, what should i do? and in general, you ’re in my ear all the way. you say all this, then my skate got stuck. and you’re a

fucking horse, everything’s gone, what should i do? well, yes, i softened it a lot and and i continue to listen to all this with such a face. i remember that in end of rental. i’m talking about maxim, please, could you not comment on what’s happening in my ear? it confuses me a little , but there’s something to remember, it’s a lot of fun . you and i, by the way, in my opinion, were almost the only couples that i did high supports. yes, you did a lot of different things. i did we did you understood me, but i wasn’t afraid, and they kept asking me how you weren’t afraid. i really wasn't scared. i trusted you 100% in this regard. i was sure that you wouldn't drop me. for some reason. this is exactly what i wasn’t afraid, but i remember that when we skated the last number it was already the final and there you usually lifted me up. uh, well, it turns out you were holding me by the back, upstairs. like this, and then you lifted me up, either with a block or down, and i saw how really high it was. you know, i looked down. i remember i

was so scared. i realized that this is really very high. that is, firstly, you are tall , plus skates, plus outstretched arms, in short, it was scary, but i can say that it was during the ice age. i i was just at my best. and if i had a daughter, it seems to me that she is in better shape now. thank you so much. well, i was so-so there. thanks a lot. this is how it is with this toxic user every day. and toxic, i’m not a killer. okay, okay, if with love, now again in all public tees, the abuser beats him to death, no. by the way, he doesn’t hit at all. max will develop a very touching attitude. actually. danya is simply the best velikole i told you about a woman, i told you then, i’ll tell her this. now everyone tanya is simply amazing, an amazing woman, an amazing figure skater , better, but you can figure that out for yourself.

but yes, you are a super harmonious couple. thank you very much. i think that you and andryukha also thank you and tanya came to our training, helped and even tried to explain something to me, she went out on the ice a couple of times with such a big belly. it was very touching. well, look, the ice age is over and with it figure skating. it's over for you or it's over. maybe you once watched the olympics, maybe you were sick for someone. maybe you know some of our sensational olympic champions who are now well-known. you know, uh. of course, i watched and was sick. i remember that when i came to skate in one of the shows , girls came up to me to take pictures and among them was sasha trusova. so i recently crossed paths with her somewhere, and i she says i have a photo with you. and i, in my opinion, it was even broadcast somewhere and i was re-tagged in this photo. i saw that i had a photo with little sasha and i was like wow

class. wow, what a cool photo? i was very pleased, but in general, of course, this is the most beautiful sport, one of the most difficult, the most spectacular, and it’s great that it’s connected to music. that is, this is art and sport and that’s it. you know this with someone like that. eh, serving with such energy, in short, well, for me it’s probably one of my favorite sports. and if we talk specifically about olympic sports, then, probably, figure skating is the only thing i watch, perhaps, with rare exceptions, and, in principle, our country. to me seems to like figure skating most of all. our country. you love figure skating, just as julianna karau loves it. it seems to me that this is true, because this is the most beautiful, brightest, one of the most difficult sports and i am simply amazed that the level is growing so much every year, yes, that is, look at what the olympic champions were doing there, even 10

years ago, a decade ago. and i have no idea what’s happening now. what is it like to be an athlete relevant in this sport, because the level just varies from year to year this is how it grows. how to keep up with these new records, new achievements with the number of elements. this is simply unrealistic on the one hand. this is great. from that point of view exactly. how the sport is developing. i think figure skating. this is probably one of the fastest growing sports in this regard, well, recently. yes, he has become very progressive, and such a colossal improvement in this sport has occurred over the past 5 years, on the one hand and on the other, of course. this probably involves a lot of some kind of psychological trauma, because there are a large number of examples when people go. from a distance, this, of course, affects their mental state in their future lives. and this, of course, is what raises questions when you think

about whether to send your child, for example, to big-time sports, including figure skating. well, by the way, i remember your story. you once said, well, yes, we all have a little something to tell about athletes. by the way, uh alexa yes sport is the son of yulianna karaulova. yes we have. um, by the way, andrei chernogo. yes, the difference between our children is quite a small week. yes, there is a very big difference between my son and ilian’s son. yes, alexsov, the sport of figure skating is unlikely. well , thank you for this for mine too. i didn’t want a curly one myself. yes, in general i influenced. i know that maxim and his son always wanted to be a football player. i also want to have one in the hospital. well, it happened according to my mother’s wishes, mom , thank you, and what about maxim becoming a figure skater, and now we have such a wonderful champion, by the way, on channel one you are

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heard these tracks, but i don’t mind. why not competition? well, no, because the people you are because you graduated. you are a singer by training, as if in the ice age project. but yes, she was there too, it turns out she’s practically a figure skater, almost a cool parallel, so it seems to me that if a person has a desire , he has the opportunity to try himself in something new and he enjoys it. why not no? and another question. if over time a person understands that it does not find a certain response, that it is not for him, then it means that he simply does not go further along this path, but at least he knows that he tried. you know, like in that famous book and film, that at least i will know that i tried, if i really wanted to. if a person had such a dream, i don’t mind, i’m not a prude, and it seems to me that on the one hand, certainly. everything should always be professional, but we all

started somewhere. we all went through a certain path. and well, you need to be probably to be condescending in some things, including towards each other. many more of our figure skaters are trying themselves, and figure skaters, if looking at me, are trying themselves as tv presenters, now it has become popular, since figure skating channel one, uh, broadcasts and thank them very much for that, and our girls are trying themselves, uh, tv presenters . , maybe you, as an already professional tv presenter, will give them a couple of tips and at the same time , i wouldn’t say that you’re a professional tv presenter, but thank you very much, first of all. let's start with the fact that the century a professional athlete is very short and you imagine it like no one else, in fact there are not many sports. and yes, in which athletes in our country will stop precisely as stars, and why did i say football player, because these are mostly football players and figure skaters, who else can we suggest? to me? well, artist gymnastics,

rhythmic gymnastics, and less often synchronized swimming. okay hockey. well, just a few. and it turns out that the person has a lot of media weight, but his professional path is, uh, in sports, over, but at the same time he feels strong. he feels potential confidence. and most importantly, he has a desire to develop further, and he knows what to say, what to say, why not. i don't see anything wrong with this. especially if we talk about the girls you just mentioned. again, you talk great. do you feel free in this? why not. you have commented on a huge number of competitions. you communicate well with people. you easily find a common language, and you can somehow relevantly, coolly and sufficiently on time make a cheeky joke on the verge. you know, this is the right edge, so this is also something great. everything is here. not just like that. thanks but really. that's what

the ice age didn't provide. a lot of athletes. more precisely, almost everyone who participates in it. they say that all this is great . so much. so much of everything is so great. the only positive thing for me that i got from this was meeting you with the stars and very amazing interesting people. i think this is the main thing about the ice age, because it helps you develop, because when you see how easily the stars communicate there, well, mine are there , naturally, my partner is moving, karaulova is my friend anzhelika kashirina and so on with the one with whom i communicated, there is katya varnava and so on, with whom we are alahi mikheev at last. yes , with whom we hung out, were friends, spent time together, it gave me a lot. i actually thought, why not, that it seems that they are all simple people, nothing like that, there is a supernatural there , i definitely didn’t want to ride. yes, i remember how maxim said. i hate figure skating. i just couldn’t believe my ears. how

this is possible, i don’t know, i looked at all this from the outside, it’s physically very difficult when you’re not a professional athlete to perform at a level with professional athletes. it’s quite a ruthless world that should be noted. because, and during the project. at first i had a crack on one side in the rib. and in a week, on the other side, there may already be a fracture. i don’t know what i should do. i didn't take a second photo. because the difference between the x-rays was a couple of days. i don't i wanted to re-learn. the fact is that i repeat, this was maxim’s first time skating with a non-professional. and you changed it a lot, because naturally i don’t have the same muscular corset as tanya and professional athletes. so, in general, we broke two of my ribs hmm and i remember that at some point i felt like that. it's a pity i came for training. everything hurts. i just can't help but sit. oh, well, it hurts

to move, i remember the moment and breathe and it ’s funny you would have had to do with such nonsense absolutely yes and you’re just where won't you get it for me? another i was in pain everywhere, and in the end they injected me with painkillers , they put special tapes on me, and at some point i just felt endlessly self-conscious. it’s a pity i remember sitting and crying in the locker room. i’m still tired, you know, chronic lack of sleep. all this has accumulated at this moment. do you understand what sport is? yes, i realized that high achievements. he is absolutely flighty ; at some points he is absolutely not focused on your personal feelings, because we will meet for the next training session. and you you say, i arrive from st. petersburg at 5:00 in the morning; the train arrives there from the concert at 5:00 in the morning. let ’s meet at 6:00, and i fly to vladivostok at 10, it was like we’ll drive for 2 hours, and i’ll fly there to vladivostok to perform, and then i’ll arrive, then i won’t have a day. i

arrive in khabarovsk from khabarovsk at 2:00 am. let's meet, let's ride there until four, and at 8:00 i'm going there to vologda conditionally and for me it was generally what i say, get on the sapsan, you say no, but i need to sleep sometime, so i go night i take trains to sleep, i don’t fly by plane from st. petersburg, i go by train to sleep. you cried yourself and for me it was simple. eh, what kind of people are these artists, and since then, in fact, i have also changed a little in this regard. that is, i can fly there somewhere the next day and arrive and work. yes, it’s hard there, but i don’t feel so sorry for myself anymore, because i always remember how artists work, but you know me, my friends asked me, why did i think for you all the time? why does she need it? for what? crap? a? why do you need me here, to get to know you? such passion, why all this? why this sport? for what? yes, you bet your life on this. what did this

project give me? i saw how professional athletes live. i saw that these are people who have been working all their lives from early childhood . who don't study normally at school there are people who don't hang out as students. you just study professionally from morning to evening from early childhood. you have three or four ices a day there, you have training camps there is no time at all for personal life, for any entertainment, for anything at all, for friends, and then, when you finally achieve, yes, something the biggest achievement is probably still olympic medals. well in sports. yes, it is so accepted that it is olympic gold. this is the best idea of ​​what a person feels. i think it's blowing my mind. no, but actually everyone feels, differently, i can tell you that i don’t know what the main grammy award is probably, right? well, if you get a grammy there, that's what it's like get an olympic medal, what will you feel if you are a golden gramophone

? you will receive gramophones; by the way, i already have quite a few. and if you get effie, now you would like tv, i dream of you, but i never wanted it. i would be surprised, to be honest, well, it’s absolutely impossible. let people hear us. you know dafi, if anything, you gave us a ride in the ice age to third place. give us some teffi already. well, for those who have just joined us, i remind you that this is a free program podcast. i'm maxim tronkov and my guest is yuliana karaulova , you are the host. who wants to become a millionaire of the cult program. and if you have any questions about figure skating. can you give me a hint? in principle, as the host of this program, i have no right to give advice. well , wait a little bit there. well, it doesn't. clue. you can help

a person reason, think, and ask him leading questions. does this count as a hint? well, well, let's call it all the words that you called it, you will do it, because on figure katana. still it i already made a heart somewhere. not the question, first of all. eh, if i myself understand what i’m talking about, then i generally ask some leading questions, as a rule, i understand, thank you. to god, plus everything depends on people; in fact , they are much more. it seems more valuable to me, or what? yes, i’m also very glad that they really returned to the old format, that ordinary people are playing, and i want to thank our guest editors, because of the huge number of applications. they find real diamonds. in fact. we always have very red heroes with their own, but original a unique destiny, but with some interesting hobbies and tricks, and it’s always

super interesting, because people are very sincere, plus before the program. i always read the profiles of the heroes of all the heroes who are sitting , let me remind you that at the beginning we still have a qualifying round, we need to correctly arrange uh, some things. yes, that is , the sequence must be correct and the one who answered correctly the fastest sits in the player’s chair. that is, in the end, per transfer i play with two or three people, but at the same time i study all six profiles. and i always it’s interesting to correlate the information that i received about the person before the transfer. yes, i read it in the questionnaire, and with the real picture that i see in front of me, so, naturally. i don’t just ask some specific , leading questions, because i already know something about the person, but because i’m interested in hearing how he himself will talk about it, what he will answer. here, well, or to bring it to some topic. yes, which was mentioned in his profile. and again, everything that is indicated in the questionnaire, the participants tell about themselves, then there is no information there, you know, that we dug up and we want

to touch something like that there, for example, no. we have a good program, thank god, and in general everything is good and good. and there is some special guest, perhaps, whom you just remembered. listen, but you always know it’s great when we come up with some funny moments. and when we laugh, when does this have to do with such a subtle art, when a person understands that there are some funny topics that can actually be dealt with in a good way other people in the whole studio laugh at this word, and he himself begins to pedal it. i always have endless respect for such people, i try to be like that myself. when, for example , i also come to some shows. i understand that if a person is there, and where and how can they joke there? i myself, on the contrary, will make sure that he says it, and he does it, because in the end. spectacular. in the end, it’s great, and i always love our guests like this. it seems to me that this is a small release, like that. well , not that it’s being set up, but on purpose you know, they make such accents, knowing that

later, for example, i’ll ask about something like that , which people will then laugh at in a good sense , i’ll repeat this word. not to make fun of it, but just to lift the mood and really turn it down. it's always great. we met when you were a super singer, then you became a figure skater. after that, you began to host a sports program on channel one russian ninja. that is, it was then that you became the host of a sports program. after playing sports. after that, you and i went. on who wants to become a millionaire. do you think, dear juliana, that i am fixated on your career? it will prove that it is already there, well , not that thanks to you, but i believe that i am not saying that thanks to me you know. i believe that in general everything i’m a little bit about figure skating i’m about figure skating and and this is all such a big , single mechanism in which every little screw matters, a screw and, of course, and one pushes the other and that’s all. this is, in

general, a big big lump that rolls, rolls and grows somewhere. i i really hope it gets better over time . they meant it. i thought about making a loop. this is somewhat due to the fact that figure skating inspired you to such achievements that you not only became a narrow-profile performer of your beautiful hits, but also became a tv presenter of such a figure show. yes, i remembered the wall in the pool. and no, it’s not connected in any way. this is with my career. i’ll probably even tell you. unfortunately, it would be fun if it were somehow connected, but no, the path is very interesting, and also thanks to the project the ice age, which brought me a couple of steps closer to mine. everything to my result to what i have today and to the fact that i have become part of the big family of channel one. you yourself touched on the topic of the media exposure of our athletes. why do you think our athletes of other sports are not

as media-producing as figure skating athletes? well, firstly, because , probably, after all, uh, figure skating is one of the most popular sports, and the most spectacular, and with uh, hmm, probably, such, if we talk about world level, the most, well, or one of the greatest achievements. yes, there is something to be proud of, there is someone to be proud of, because our athletes are always very cool in this sport. we've already performed. there are the last yes decades. it happens nicely when there is something to be proud of, besides this, i don’t want to offend anyone now. and i hope i won’t offend what i saw. this is my personal experience, and guys figure skating. well, not that they are more erudite, but let’s say they are more connected with the media sphere and art.