that’s what i always know and feel, i’ve already learned to listen to her. and there were some stories when intuition helped, when they told you, but find uh, but do it, and you didn’t do what you heard yourself uh, and still do. do you remember and i never regretted it, a lot, a lot of such stories were thrown off connected, a no, mainly with the theater, when i left the vakhtangov theater when i was very much offended, i left. and only then a few years later. i understood why the lord sent these trials. if i hadn't left, i would not have been offered to head the theater. i would just sit there and continue to say in the theater, you’re probably going crazy. who leaves such a theater, right? tell me, in a family, you have two children. eh, how do you raise? yeah, that's the main thing you convey. well, i, for example,

sometimes it’s not me who says it, we won’t be able to explain it, let’s just do it this way, well, if you’re older, just take my word for it. um, because i'm older, but i just know for sure. well, because i don’t have time to explain this experience to you, just take our word for it, you definitely don’t need to do it there, there is no need to go through this door. now i say, mom. yes, cool, but very rarely i can say there once every 3 years. for example, you have something from which you directly shield your children and say, you don’t need this experience and will never need it, of course, of course, that’s exactly what i’m saying. like you just believe. you understand what mom wants. so that everything goes well with you. here, just believe me, he doesn’t believe it. well, not at all with children. the most important thing is love and trust. the child must trust you so much that even if something, well, catastrophically terrible happened. he still must

trust you so much that he must know that he can come to you with this trouble. what will you help? you know, i had my children, well, such a point of ethereal upbringing and dotted relationships, which i regret, there was no day and there was no night, so that i did not pray, did not ask them, well, goodbye. uh, because i was afraid of not having time, i had no one to rely on, and i brought my mommy with me uh from orenburg and i had to arrange it all and break it down alone. i understood that i should plow. and if you already start plowing, this becomes part of your life further, when you get married and give birth to another child. and you seem to be protected. you still work like a horse. i missed a lot and i feel it, i have these bald spots. i can't fill them with anything. and no matter how i turn them towards me today. there are times when they directly say no. mom it's too late now. and you had enough wisdom and intelligence to keep your finger on

the pulse with children, and with your first child. i missed a lot, but i drew conclusions. i i really wanted to achieve everything in my profession. but when i gave birth to my second, i said that’s all, stop trying. now my family comes first, and i won’t miss anything for 10 years. and as soon as i said this, everything immediately happened in my profession. immediately i was like oh, how does this happen? but i still realize that there is a lot of work. anyway, i already tried with my son not to miss anything, tell me, and now they seem to present you with the fact that they saw off september 1st. they didn't celebrate their birthday there promised for the new year. but they offered you a corporate party, no, but i refused. i hmm always birthdays new year always refused corporate events. i was always

at home, i was my priority. my mother took my mother as soon as she gave birth to her daughter 27 years ago, a year later she took her mother from odessa and her mother-in-law helped. ah, my mother-in-law died when i was still pregnant with my daughter, and there were nannies and my mother helped. everyone helped and then the second time, when i got married, uh, my mother-in-law, she still helps with good relationships, right? i remind you of this podcast letter, and i have in guests. nonna grishaeva, you built relationships with older women, or everything was so great for you. well, this is how it happened. everything was not great with my first mother-in-law. and even

my own son couldn’t live with her, not like me, but what complaints i had against myself, well, i came in large numbers, but i was rushing about in the service. i’m not the same, well, of course, and neither is my son. yes, yes, but with my second mother-in-law everything was different and there were no complaints against me, despite the age difference. my family immediately accepted me. you gave birth to his grandson great, they love it. no, of course not, when a son brings his grandmother into the house, and she will not bear them a single child or a single grandchild. but it would be offensive to you, it’s all offensive. but everything is fine with you, everything is fine, tell me the sword. of course, i still can’t put it on yet. in general , you have dreams. i dream about grandchildren, of course, and i dream about roles, there are roles that i just dream about with these same fists for god’s sake , if it’s not a secret, but filippovna is no longer here . no, thank god. no, i dream of philumeni.

yes, i still dream, but it’s not in your hands. everything is you have your own theater. oh no, i'm dreaming in the vakhtangov theater do you think that this romance can happen again with the theater? so i play lucy in the shift theater. and you are on the staff of the theater, they are under contract, i returned to the vakhtangov theater on contract , they play in three performances, so listen, everything is in your power, and you have everything for philomena? yes? yes, it’s not so simple in the theater, but for and who are marcela? well, who are you? but that’s who you see. i see andrey ilyin. yes, a wonderful ro no, a wonderful collective. well there it is it should be. this is such a breed red butler yes, uh, marcello, this is all of the same

order, as if the hero should be straight sugar and honey with cookies and marshmallow candies. he was handsome, but not a little bit, his age is already taken away, and the legendary performance of the vakhtangov theater where simonov played you remember him, but i didn’t see the performance and eduard defilip was at this performance and said that this was the best performance. who was lyudmila maksakova? what are you talking about? you know, when eldar aleksandrovich came to us for his diploma in the play, i was removed from the role of the heroine because i missed the rehearsal there. she behaved badly. i fell in love and they replaced me with another girl. and all the excursions above me were, in my opinion, come and see for yourself. and i knew what was on me. well, how can you tease me so that i have such a rally. and ryazanov then said, it should n’t be like this when on stage everyone wants a heroine, but in the audience no one knows what kind of story i have. a fantastic

story was cut. it made a big difference when he came to watch our parody of love affair at work. dima team. i them he easily. and he said, and i know this girl. she also parodied him, imploring him in the garage. if i had known this artist before, i would have featured her in all my films. and my mother and i are already watching tv. we didn't see this. it's all editing. when my mother and i watched the program, we started crying during lunch. you can just imagine on the screen, you showed me great. i just remember how i hid from you. we met mark more quietly. how can one explain to a swallow that it passes and it comes running? he says there’s an ultrasound of him. hide hee hee i was hiding because i think you’re going to scold me , you’re too busy. do you remember what i told you? you are so beautiful, i feel

relieved, but you are talented. a talented person. how is it possible that you are such a clown actress? uh, i’ll say it again, with such an appearance, it’s rare who can afford it when ugly girls play in comedies, because well, what else do you have left? say thank you to fate and play yourself. what did you want? well, tell me, thank you, it so happens that your legs are 15 cm ours nobel, instead of a nose, your ears stick out and so on. well, well, yes, you’re gifted and good, but you’ll never play in your life, he threatened katerina, well, never well, because, well, that’s how it happened. and you weren’t afraid when you went over to this side, but the breed, no, i was never afraid of being ugly. i also spoiled the shchukin school for myself. so that the department did not recognize me. i played with the box. that is, i substitute cotton wool like this, you know. i always got a kick out of it, because the character of the heroine lasts a long time, you know, a

when you rush around with yourself, like a hen with an egg , this beauty of yours, in any case, you understand 35 and you will no longer play. well, unless you have some kind of connections, as they say, like cinderella. well, you can’t play anymore , and the fact that you’ve extended yourself so much is really cool. thank you rarely, who would dare, and especially a woman to read zhvanetsky. well, because zhvanetsky’s text and a woman’s voice are somehow incomparable. and i blessed you, we talked, and we were friends , we talked, and it was absolutely happiness, and during his lifetime he allowed me to read himself. he said, you are our girl, odessa you know how to do it and i absolutely just felt happiness when summer was in august every year. he gathered us, and a chair was covered in his house. he went out onto the balcony in odessa. yes, he went out onto the balcony,

took out his briefcase and opened it. and uh, he checked what he just wrote on us, and he gave you something, and from his own. well, whatever you do to earn money, maybe you have a program. i have a program , a book was recently published natasha zhvanetskoye released a new one book. yes, i wanted to read it to you. the most delicious and harmful the most pleasant immoral the most spicy illegal hence the thoughtfulness in the eyes of many. what you can do for 8 hours straight is just sleep and work eat drink love dance is impossible. and you will really like this. how to distinguish real diamonds from fake ones. in the face what are your plans for the summer? and i’m going with my family to the sea

to relax. it turned out to carve out three whole weeks in the shooting schedule. this is incredible. in short, i was just lucky and my children and my husband are with me and this is happiness and friends will come to us there from odessa so that everything will be fine. i want you to do well because you are an artist. ahh. you didn't suffer. you just got it. it is a gift that you use. you have the right. uh, and it’s a joy for you because you make people happier, and i can’t help but say. in our theater, we begin rehearsing without traditions in september. the director is my husband alexander nesterov. you’re not playing kharita ignatievna? no, i'm not playing, i'm

helping. this will be a musical performance , i keep my fingers crossed. it was a letter podcast, and i was visited by an honored artist. nonna grishaeva thank you. you are wonderful. hello this is a podcast, tatyana gevorkyan is with you and our episode today is very unusual. you and i are going on a time machine, the brightest and most unusual time in the nineties, and together with us , perhaps the brightest stars of the era, irina saltykova shura and sergei penkin, will talk about fashion and style of that time. then first, i’m sorry to everyone, i’m sitting in these. eh, tight shoes, i immediately

say they forbade me to give away what i’m wearing i came and they told me to put it on. this is how sasha changed his shoes like a gentleman. i'm thinking, what should i wear? i don't want to be like everyone else. well, friends, this week we are discussing everything. tender may, because it was yura shatunov’s birthday. and, of course, we remember the era of the nineties, probably in our generation’s memory - this was the brightest and most adventurous era. what kind of good memories do you have? hmm , considering that i was drinking in the same year yura and i was invited to work in the siberian traffic light group, so funny traffic light because we stole traffic lights and put them on the stage. they blinked beautifully and we worked barnaul kemerovo tomsk krasnoyarsk i sang yura shatunov’s songs live many, many years later razin, when we met, we became friends, they said, and we were looking for you, you bastard. we were looking for you. we knew who sings

all these songs live , maybe i’ll meet yura recently. may he rest in peace. yes, he behaved very secretly all his life. that's the kind of boy he was in himself. yes, that's it. i would say. well, it’s interesting what everyone’s there was a different style in the 90s yura he is such a generation, denim, denim, in short, what was it, you put it on. yes, the guy from next door. well, shura is just kings , the same as you were called. yes, i didn’t have enough money for pants. i went out in shorts, yes , and once an ex-symbol, but then they put it all together, it was all beauty, so that all the beauty would be invested. i am alisheru. god bless you. well , that’s only later, but initially, yes, initially no, but you can name the brightest, most fashionable stars of that time. here in your opinion of course, aguzarova and who else? well, at that

time, i still feel very sorry for it. why don’t we somehow talk about this singer, this is marinkapura irina who gathered in stadiums and sang blues and jazz and pop songs. well , if we take a group of technologies, they somehow worked there on foot, or like a juran. that is, there is a little electronic music, they were all in leather and black. but bright, well, i say, only here is zhanna guzarova. before fame. i was the most fashionable. well, i remember now, i ’ll tell you now, i literally remembered now, then there was, yes, and here are some fashionable shoes. you probably weren’t born yet, but i’ll tell you now my story from the nineties, where i took things here. well, that is, my mother’s sisters, one of them was the manager of a store there, the other was just paid. yes, yes, there are a lot of girls she knows, uh, who work in stores and so on, and that is, how does something so fashionable appear or was called, yes, yes. they called and naturally, i

definitely go there and buy myself, naturally, there’s a queue of people, it’s extraordinary there, i don’t know about 200 people, maybe, or even more. well, we didn’t have a queue and there were only red shoes for the whole uh, so to speak, for the whole of moscow. well, let’s put it roughly so, yes, and i called my friend, i said, let’s go , uh, fight for the shoes. well, no, we have the opportunity to take them, there is a back entrance and so on. we went here, the same shoes. e. well, i want to say that they were and are still fashionable. that is, uh, a thin nose and a small heel, uh, it was so bold to go out on the street in these things, because i remember the shortage, you know, i’m going to college, and the whole carriage. just the whole car. i'm standing, they're watching. like this on my feet, because i was inspired by the video then. there was a clip of a background

, he was blonde, there were girls like that in brutal soldier’s boots. it was wildly cool. and i realized that i wanted these shoes, but it was impossible to buy them, because well, you couldn’t even buy red shoes. but this is about what year are you talking about now, but it was the nineties. still, ninety-five, maybe, right? no, i’m just a little bit . i’m telling you somewhere in the early nineties. but this is probably the mid-nineties, and i went to some market. it’s already clear there, yes, the military man bought the boots of soldiers of the romanian army, in my opinion, well, markets appeared and we somehow climbed through the shawarma shops that were in the apartments. and it was also illegal, it was also a secret in such a way. it was in general. it seems to me nothing. no, we haven't changed. it seems to me that they are still absolutely not, then you still need to somehow manage to run over someone buy a run for yourself so that it doesn’t happen again later.

repetitions were a lot of people coming to the party there the same thing on someone. well, we had such a small choice, you know? this is later, listen, who had different beginnings. i’m just trying to catch up with you, then i came to see who were the coolest in the nineties. it is clear that yes, and pop artists are musicians. and do you remember, cher, who all the girls wanted to date, representatives of what profession, bandits? by the way, we ’ll get to that, no, but the coolest fashionable guys were music video makers. what, we created them? that's later. yes small we look really good. yes, this is the nineties, as if there were only three music video directors. yes, there were only three of them. no, it was a little more you already clear wait, i’m just you, yes, it was gusev yes, he filmed the birth, no, bondarchuk yankovsky already. and then they scolded

me for starting to shoot videos. they tell you everything, wait, come on, we’re someone else there, how and where what were your inspirations , where did you get things, because it was all wrong, just where i just want to know the origin of your bright stage suits in 980, because it's eighty-six . i worked at rita intourist space and tracontinental. he has already traveled abroad a lot. at that time i worked as a janitor and went abroad on tour, so, well, people stayed there to work for me. so we were in singapore, in america, in canada, in italy, and in germany. i want to say that i brought some things from there, but basically, if we take our countries, everything, mostly they went to boiled jeans, so it was impossible to get them we cooked it ourselves,

the nineties were such difficult years. something uh, bought it somewhere in the markets. so i want to say that, uh, i came up with all these costumes myself , what tells me that it’s so bright, i took all this, uh, in a ballroom dancing store. and by the way, i remember, i was just now watching, preparing for the program, watching old videos and found a recording from 1987, where you perform at a concert, and in such a modest jacket, such a modest young man, not a single rhinestone was made. shchedrin yes, yes, yes, yes exactly there no, then i didn’t work yet. it was just like we were walking. and so we had such an evening. i was invited to this evening. so everything somehow got twisted and confused. but then i had this magazine , a music kiosk, where they called me something like what a great man. 14 there’s some cheap, sweet-voiced singer

somewhere like that, but i thought you were. everyone there received it so warmly, because not everyone understood this kind of music. you see, i always go, as a pioneer, and i always get all the playwrights. i am in the first place, but because after me someone takes an example from me something do. well, it's good when they take a good example from you. and by the way, i heard somewhere else that, in my opinion, in 1988, they performed with a cinema group somewhere together. and that almost viktor tsoi and his wife, natalya razloga, sewed you in different trousers. yes, these weren’t even trousers, they were like arabic trousers. these are uh, yes, eighty-seven. you performed quite modestly on stage, and then in 1988 on stage. i didn't perform. it’s just, uh, there were such youth evenings. and so we went there with the artists and everyone left for yalta, but i stayed, evpatoria, i’m the director, i say. i say i want

to leave. me why me why is everything on me and first of all, we have different music? why would they understand me? he says, no he says, everything is fine. this is the year eighty-eight , and july, in my opinion, is the month. uh, viktor tsoi came with his girlfriend. so i was embroidering these sequins and sitting there and uh. they helped and supported me there. we needed such a mixture of all this one day and the song, baby, you worry me. they wrote this about me, then the drummer. this group. the movie is already about this remembered. i didn’t know about this, it ’s an amazing story. viktor tsoi was sergei penkin’s stylist. he also just helped me , sat there, laughed, told an anecdote, uh, altered it. well, i came, there his friend helped me so much that i would have liked to do everything with my own hands, because there was no such fabric that you come to now, you just sew. it can even be quite simple. uh, make some kind of loops and the suit is ready, but before all this didn’t

exist. attention, you are in a time machine now we are in the era of shocking rhinestones, sporty chic and a riot of color, discussing those same dashing, ninth let's visit. uh. now she lives in her duma and wishes that it was me in the garden. i ’ll tell you that i’ll go to the toilet and they’ll help me. wait, you can't. well, why can’t i open a huge one, or? now this is their mansion. well, i’m telling you what the hair is like. overheads all over the heated floor, like a bathtub, we dry the curls beautifully. well, because it was fashionable then. yes, in fact, it’s so funny, because i don’t remember anything at all, it’s so funny. these hairstyles are our nineties. uh, yeah. well, it was fashionable. it’s just that you opened

this pandora’s box about the criminalization of the 90s. eh, here. you remember that back then there was a very clear division by style. these are all different, uh, social strata of the population. naturally, they were bandits, it was immediately obvious, but they had two styles. this is a crimson jacket, or this is either a tracksuit. it’s not like that with men and women, it seems to me that you are a little so attractive today. yes, no, like, well, a jacket. yes, and you also know this. here. you wouldn’t have dressed like that, yes. in the nineties , you wouldn’t have worn a crimson jacket and a chain . it was just for fun, it was good, damn, the moronic hangers are moronic. so, it’s huge, and there are these foam rubber ones, like a closet. well, because it was of good quality, we didn’t have things, everything was just some kind of consumer goods, the very best. if you're good, here it was on my sleeve. this is

the label that always had to be torn off in june. for some reason, our lads decided that no, on the contrary, civility lies in the fact that here necessary, and now again i want to add, yes, to add to this now one of the italian designers, and released this collection in the nineties and even here the label is written in 1999. well, let's go back. yes, first a silk suit, then a green suit, then a red suit. and in 1986 , the first foreign cars appeared, but now there is no such thing. now everyone dresses quite straight. that is, you could never tell by the style of your clothes before . sorry, it was even like that before . how much did you buy a suit there, let’s say for 3,000 i bought gold, you complete fool, for five, that is, the more money you paid. why was this considered better? well, then people started counting money, then everything became different

and everything was sewn. yes, there were very few russian designers at that time who could not, firstly, hares was a very good designer. very good. and you know, i didn’t dress for him, but according to his design there was a long coat there , i remember how now there was this brooch, uh, a black horse cap and some interesting ones. i think that the hare was a very cool designer and was friends with bergardeon. there and in general. well, it was very beautiful, if they take our fashion with us. uh, with our clothes they take all these uh, all the fashion designers, probably, quilted boots, these felt boots as they are now called uggs uggs with uh. there, even now, just now if you remember this, they take a lot from our styles, then the first boots with coco chanel locks, in my opinion, someone there, uh, took,

uh, an example of our rock climbing shoes there. this is all, uh, it comes from us too. yes, this is straight russian style. this is a separate direction in world science. now you have stage costumes the attitude has changed compared to the nineties, when i wanted brighter, longer they are different, you know, now there is a lot of hmm, everything is bright and i don’t want to go, like everyone else i want to go against the flow. i want something else . what are you planning for the upcoming concerts? what outfits? well, for example, if it’s a symphony orchestra, then you can go out in a tailcoat. there with a shiny vest. some such interesting things, which again are not strange like everyone else’s. this can be done something from the nineties. you left it in your wardrobe. are there any things that are dear to you, that are some kind of memory. uh, with some kind of connection with some

events, well, the suit that is there, and the cloak is made of laser discs. ahh. i remember it’s strange, like why markalma? it’s so unknown here, as it is known, after all, he gathers stadiums in italy, france, germany , it seems he was famous in the nineties, he also plays now. but here, somehow, i don’t know. so we performed with him, i also had such a platform there, that is, time passes, but somehow you change, you want to stay in that style, but more you grow up, and so that it doesn’t seem funny from those times, you have some things that just evoke these warm memories, you don’t want to get rid of them with a stone suit. and this is the famous cap. yes, when i leave, at the end the hall is already exploding, this one is screaming, as if it’s just a symbol of the 90s

, yes, well, maybe, yes, the nineties collapsed not only physical boundaries, but also the boundaries of our perception and everyone began to dress more outrageously read some completely different literature, watch a movie and that’s it. it's on we were very influenced. these are the things that inspired you, that everything has changed so well, cherkizon has opened up to see more travel and began to travel. ahh, i don’t know all sorts of museum excursions and so on. we began to simply live a real life, when we were jealous, watching there, then television. but what things did you bring first? here are some crazy ones from these foreign trips. everything was crazy for me - i’ll tell

you my first trip abroad was necessary , you can talk. uh, which country i think, yes, hungary talks about everything, and i had it, i don’t remember now. i was still married ; i had, like, it seems to me, only 300 dollars. and maybe more. well, for some reason it seems so to me, well, it doesn’t matter. the main thing is that i brought, and i brought two huge bags and a third. i had a bag full of pots and pans. because when and then there is also the hostess yes, that’s why i understand normally, that is, what are you talking about, not only things there was a shortage, there was a shortage of everything , there was a shortage of a good life. we had one a hat made of uh, silver borer, and foxes for the whole family, and when mom put it on, i tied

the ears here, mom, when i put it on, let go of the ears , there was also one jacket for everyone, and pickles for my brother and me in the first half of school. if he doesn’t have anything there, and then i have nothing, but at home there was everything , a carpet and a wall with legs and a biryusa refrigerator and a tv. eh, zenit or what? and everyone went as if they were on an excursion? did you come to our excursion just now? and when you started dressing up like this, just like on stage, that is, always like this, yes, and not in childhood opportunity to dress like that. what mother listened to, we will download the happiness of the first shirt , buy nothing. perhaps a green military shirt, i made a couple of shoulder straps with leather , i made this leather strap, a bottle , leather pockets, these are all leather cuffs, we cut off the leather there. from where it was necessary and painted with potassium permanganate further cool, i have an openwork, an association of women passionate about needlework. listen to the circle

understood the surrounding normal treatment. they just knew who they were talking to. no, you didn’t have to come up to me, and no one ever said, nothing bad. i could catch up, also grandma , don’t meddle with him all the time, heavy hand, move away from him. better smile there and run away. and when did you start working so actively in the field of pop music? you probably didn’t have time to take care of your wardrobe; you were already in the transper when you were. well, of course, our cricket was eleven years old or cher when we came to our country. oh, i had alisher on mtv liszt, i also had alisa just now. of course you do. i really liked it, but they still take it into account, in general, i wanted when i came to the stage, i wanted to embrace everything at once, not poor, so i had costumes, oh, guard, and it was beautiful as it was, mmm. listen, i got it. that's all the virgin mary

ira is 100 dollars two dachshunds. this cognac is such a long bottle, complete shit. well, what happened? it was really a more beautiful costume, ah, shocking, spectacular. sashka doesn’t have shocking in one direction, in another i have such beauty in my head. we even have photographs. let's take a look at your images. how beautiful yes, this is it inexpensive dress, in general, right? this is what alisher did, and this