and in dosaaf i learned to fly and the director of the aviation department, and dosaaf i understand that i know the specifics, more or less, of the production of aircraft. viktor georgievich bychkov persuaded me for a long time. well, i persuaded him. so i came to the plant in may of '15. and mars works with, uh, helicopters. this is a plane. the an-2 helicopter has two mi 8, this is the dosaaf park, a park, of civil aviation. that is, well, almost all flying aircraft, for general purposes. what do we have? sometimes everything is not as good as we would like, because in reality an-2 planes and mi-2 helicopters to a huge extent, unfortunately, in their time. we handed over soviet times to the poles, and they were produced one in another in the police department and, accordingly , today in poland - according to the restrictions introduced, this is probably the leader, so the difficulties are determined by spare parts. of course, our former mi-2 in two versions of sokol and something else

like that are used more for this today, they have stopped completely supporting the mi-2. unfortunately, although i think it is not deserved. story i think that they are correct because, perhaps, for initial flight training. mi-2. as good as it gets. in our case. this is absolutely accurate, because all our types are medium and heavy helicopters. they transfer from the mi-2 to them very simply , much easier than transferring from any other training helicopter, because they have an engineering control architecture. the texture is almost the same and mi-2 in this regard. elevator for the eighth then i have a question. you and i were both at a meeting in the state duma which today puzzled, preoccupied with the very issue on which we are talking about a fairly wide range of issues, firstly, in general, in those restrictions of all that relate to small aviation, well, the so-called evacuation, well, a terminological issue that we also

talked about general aviation. the second question is certification, the third question is certification of aircraft. what i would like to talk about separately today is the certification of any small airplane there. eh, practically the same as certifying the ms-21 from the point of view in terms of costs and our design teams are quite talented, uh, which now continue to be they either sell their aircraft, which they make to countries that use aircraft for official purposes that do not require certification. if such machines could be certified with the costs that exist, let’s assume there in any western countries, yes, according to a simplified certification system. i think that there would be significantly more talented design teams, and the number of successful machines would be significantly greater. uh, flying. well, there is one more problem that we have in relation to design teams.

these are, of course, engines, which we, unfortunately, do not have; the second point that we are discussing in the duma is small airfields, which today are quite suppressed there by taxes. i believe that for the development of the transport network. we need the owners of the airfields. simply oblige them to make their airfields available for use by state aviation, but at the same time exempt them from taxes, that is, please fly there on security flights. use it for your own purposes for government purposes, but at the same time , uh, these airfields are simply necessary to sit on and support. and this will be minimal in cost and we will receive virtually free of charge for the state, a network of small airfields that would provide all our needs . the third issue we are talking about is problems related to education. glory. sergei vladimirovich israelev just came to god now and just aviation. do we know each other? he's mmm head of flight operations, federal air transport agency, and

he deals specifically with issues of aviation education, both general aviation, that is, private pilots, including professional education. so, uh, it’s very good that we have a dialogue between the aviation community and threats to aviation. now there is a substantive person with whom these issues can really be discussed, because here is the number of open training centers, and everything was more than in the 9 years of management of his predecessor, but in the house. here we are with you there was a fairly representative delegation of participants present. everyone and representatives of government agencies were present there. and there were private ones there. uh, the ministry of transport, unfortunately, there was no ministry of industry and trade. i think that it is precisely for these types of aircraft that we are talking about that we will not be able to do. uh, master import procurement without state participation hmm, because it’s even difficult for me to explain how to master the production of any

aircraft spare parts. uh, and what costs should to bring an enterprise in order to actually certify it for use in this aircraft, that is, crazy money and time, so some kind of simplified scheme is needed at the moment, and hmm, mandatory state participation, that is, support from the ministry of e, industry and so on. here we were at a meeting about your idea of ​​how things would move forward. i really hope so, because uh and even based on uh, last. speech by vladimir vladimirovich which he said that if the federal air transport agency continues to manage the development of movement in relation to unmanned aircraft in the same way, then we will not see them at all. in the near future, and the same applied to general aviation, therefore this is the position of the leader of this inter-action group that was created for the maintenance of small

aviation. that is, they are not vera and mr. davankov. these are two deputy chairmen of the state duma, she is absolutely clear that aviation in general is the destination of small aviation. she must fly today, unfortunately. we are flying. probably 10% of the possibilities. i have spoken many times without hiding it and am ready to repeat it at any level, except for general phrases. we are talking about the mobilization resource of the country, generally speaking, people who know how to fly an airplane or a helicopter in any capacity. god forbid that this is a huge support , it should be treated this way and cannot be discounted. in fact, this is a huge problem and the essence of this problem is that in general, in principle, today, dosaaf aviation was probably the largest in its time, well, 1,300 aircraft . we have left now, but before that

there were several thousand eight. it has completely fallen out of the legislative field, that is , it does not exist as such. well , today, before the jura de facto, it exists and, in principle, feels good, but unfortunately, the existing legislation. he just doesn't see it from uh and here hmm we see the opposite example. this is how it should be and how it should work and i think you understand perfectly well, what am i talking about, mr. mochansky, we both know this is dosaaf of belarus, which works perfectly well and carries out and maintains mobilization resources plus trains pilots. but now, uh, i want to report to you, maybe you know, this is one of the parts of the military air force. i will say to belarus that it is very correct when a person comes to a flight school. he starts flying practice. there, in the second year , in fact, the training year of his state feeds on it happens and does and when through

a year and a half later it turns out that this person. eh, not for health reasons, but due to his motor skills he cannot fly. that is, it’s not him that these people are being screened out and hmm, this filter, when a person came to already understand that he can fly, that he can control this machine and this is

from other types of activities, but this is absurdity quite clearly. we now understand that this is a state task of maintaining those hqs personnel that can be formed at the initial stage in primary organizations, and the second is that that in addition to initial training, dosaaf can maintain mobilization readiness from pilots who left at one time. eh, let's talk like that for a well-deserved rest. well, vks air force pilots leave quite young. they could undergo annual training there in order to maintain flying shape, and at the right time they could be used

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cashback. it's more profitable to collect primer. we continue to work on the podcast. everyone wants to fly, we are talking today with the general director of the moscow repair plant, but we are talking not only about the problems of aircraft repair itself, but also about the prospects for the development of small aircraft. everyone wants to fly, yakubovich looks great, i’ll touch on it. that 's what, well, it can be owned by a private owner, anything, but the runways have always belonged to the airfield the state cannot exist. otherwise, when it comes to large airfields , today the majority of small airfields are private. and the whole problem is, and this is what we are talking about in the working group in the state duma, that um, today, uh, the state. in principle, we should be interested in the development

of transport infrastructure. and the state is investing huge amounts of money in the development of the railway network in the road network, and large commercial airports are being built. but we are not developing, uh, regional we plan to develop aviation and invest huge amounts of money in these airfields, but there is another proposal from private owners who own small airfield sites. such as the konakovs, such a big gryzlov yes , a lot to a huge number, these are private sites, and orlovka but people pay. eh, crazy tax for the land on which the airfield is located. the most correct decision, in my opinion, is to exempt from taxes and partially subsidize. uh, maintaining these sites in good condition, that is, uh , so that they can use these sanitary aviation sites of the lesakhran, uh, any types of state aviation of the ministry of emergency situations, including, yes, which could be based there, uh, use them in case of emergency situations there when evacuating patients

and so on, that is, again, let's go back to the soviet union. it’s practically near each village there was a 400-meter strip that was used to control pests for pollination. yes, absolutely half of them are abandoned today; some have been bought out ; they are now trying to develop them. well again. here, i would say from the point of view of the state. i would supported all the owners of these sites simply so that we could use this for state purposes, we say, yes , if the pp would hold the state, the infrastructure, perhaps, could be any, but then we have. opportunity to work sanitary aviation medicine ministry of emergency situations anything, they can work on sites regardless of the owner’s position, which i am ready to challenge i will explain why the state maintains the runway. this is a rather costly story; if the strip is state-owned, then so are its personnel, maintained by state-owned unfortunately, our state always approaches this quite costly, that is

, first of all, our legislation is crazy complex in terms of what should be on the airfield. that is, there, uh, the aviation security service and so on and so forth, the question is, you need to talk to the owner in the following way with the owner of the site. here's your stripe. we will help you make it better once or twice. come on, you undertake to accept everyone to always base all types of state aviation for free to maintain this strip on all period. does everything else. we develop the infrastructure as you see fit , so that everyone can fly, we are talking about the same thing, and the same thing only from different points of view. yes, but my point is that if the state takes over this, then the state will supply its personnel and will constantly finance it. it is expensive. keep it simple okay. eh, but on the other hand. at this meeting you and i raised this question. in any case, this is how i understood that they supported me, which means that if we don’t

have enough equipment today, the forests don’t have enough security technology. medicine lacks equipment and special services. there is not enough technology for a completely normal working environment. in general, it just constantly means, if we assume for a second that, well, we’ll slightly reduce the tax burden on aviation clubs, then i don’t care, as you understand. i'm going up with a student for a cross-country flight. i don’t care which route to choose, but at this time i can do forest conservation and protection. in general, security services could help the ministry of emergency situations at any second , they could raise aircraft and so on absolutely i agree, firstly, the wider the network of route flights, the 6 network of airfields, the network of route flights, firstly, this is the development of tourism. secondly, any passage along the road, which a indicates the occurrence of an emergency of any kind. hmm , pressing a button and transmitting

information to the dispatcher that, uh, this or that has arisen. well, that's the question. uh, just about the fact that the more flying you take and uh, the higher the safety of forests and, in fact, other points about tourism once upon a time many years ago. uh, i raised questions unexpectedly found it. just a counter interest. this tourism is aviation tourism. yes, even in moscow, you can lift people by helicopter , just walk along the river and return back for a short time. 40 minutes flight hour. i think there will be interest. huge in all regions of the country there are places that to look at from the air are simply happiness and pleasure for anyone; this is additional income for everyone, is n’t it just additional income. this is, firstly, technological development. that is, we are talking about the fact that if there is uh, a business that can arise in

some place, yes, related to air tourism, and it will be, uh, we understand, profitable. eh, it will definitely absolutely arise if there is appropriate permission in moscow. unfortunately, there is a problem. um, the fact is that flights over cities are prohibited by species other than states, but in many other cities these questions are open. we have wonderful and beautiful cities where this could be there, veliky novgorod pskov there, yaroslavl where eh? as a matter of fact, this is what happens and some clubs, that is aviation organizations are engaged in this matter. what kind of sightseeing flights are carried out? but this is again a question of legislation, that is, in order to create such an organization correctly, yes, that is, it must actually be an airline that is engaged in this kind of transportation, there must be certified aircraft . but today we do not produce a single aircraft from small aviation, so there are questions here. eh, but

it’s absolutely correct that aviation tourism. uh, this is what will raise and develop regional budgets, why people are talking about this in all countries of the world, it simply exists almost en masse. i've flown in a huge amount of the country. please come for your health. they show you everything from niagara falls to the egyptian pyramids, everything you want immediately. and it’s not that expensive . yes, it’s quite understandable money, and with us. i think no less. there is something to show. the general aviation industry itself in the usa itself brings in money. uh, comparable um to commercial aviation with large, that is, there is a huge number of aircraft in small european countries. such as, well, there is austria, uh , slovakia, it’s easy to fly there and there are probably more airfields than we have today; today the number of airfields

is scanty. i want to remember everything, in my opinion, all the answers are wonderful road signs. ha. there are all signs on the road. caution: a plane hangar rolled out a private plane. the car stopped. he rolled out, reached the runway and took off. so touching, but you know, by the way, we have it now. uh, a few hmm so-called, but projects that are well called villages. yes, that's where people are trying to do approximately. the same thing, that is, a hangar in the hangar, there is an area for the crew to rest or live there, and the plane leaves the hangar and lands, uh, the man in the plane flew away with you all the time we talk, he uses a rather strange term, non-state approach , i don’t understand what it is you know how, but this cannot be, what is a non-state

approach? therefore, people who in high positions are engaged in this non-state approach. well, they should either be reoriented, or, uh, replaced by someone who will approach the national problem that we are talking about now, look, our country exists. uh, in the form in which it has been there for 30, uh, more than years. during this moment we didn’t make a single plane, little thing. yes, there is not a single certified aircraft here today, not a single one that is open. there are no small training aircraft, that is, we also use them in civil aviation schools. unfortunately, air the ships there are diamonds. yes, they fly with us, and their uh, airplanes, 52 are missing, mi-2 is missing, no, all training aviation is missing, in principle, yes, unfortunately the question. eh, for 30 years, for some reason no one was interested in this issue, the state

approach. i think this is unlikely, as regards the education issue regarding the aerodrome network. same story. why were we not interested in developing the airfield network in some way? this is the transport structure of the country. this is her safety. there was one very good phrase. i heard it from alexander mikhailov , the boatman. we have this. here are kilometers of road that leads nowhere, a kilometer of runway opens up the world. that is, we have this number of sites that opened during this period, it is scanty, and the number of closed airfields. there are just hundreds that have ceased to exist, the non-state approach is completely unambiguous from the point of view of flight education, when we recognize only public schools, and all over the world there are private schools and there are practices that train pilots. she's no worse completely in a private school, if he has

an approved program. due to some strange story, we continue to educate our children in private schools. uh, drive cars. this is no less. eh, a dangerous thing in more ways than one on an airplane. oh well, we're releasing them on the way. trust the state traffic inspectorate hmm to examine them. well, please let the participants train pilots, and they will be replaced by their growth in aviation, no questions asked.

and i think this is a huge mistake. the ministry of defense takes a simply amazing position. they would have and always have motivated people who, after going through the clubs, will come to aviation and to military aviation as well. it’s not that a person finished studying, realized that he was underpaid here and went to private owners. and here we have simply motivated people who will come to work in the sky, it’s an amazing story of how the ministry of defense can let go of such an organization as dosaaf and all the training of aviation

specialists and aviation technical specialists. i can't answer this question. i don't know the answer, to be honest. i so you asked the state government approach. so i think this is absolutely not a state. this has been an organization for over 90 years. and there we will say that, as we said, ninety more than 90% of the aviation community was prepared for the organization at one time, it absolutely showed its professionalism. and our ability to truly train not just pilots and world champions in huge quantities. i think that in aviation sports we have the most of them in the world, that is the origin of our country. i have in view of the soviet union but this position of the bill today, so to speak, has been submitted once again. i hope that it will pass, but not yet. we continue to talk on the podcast, everyone wants to fly, though not in the sky, but on the ground today we are talking with

the general director of the moscow aircraft repair plant, we are talking not only about what is happening on the ground, but also about what will happen in the air in any case , we're both at it incredible. we hope everyone wants to fly. and this is the most important thing, i’m leonid yakubovich and you, uh, we know, i’m just interested. ooh incredible young guys. i can judge by the flight simulators i go to there . it’s just almost impossible to find time to get in without calling, and i can make an appointment for tomorrow, but hardly for the day after tomorrow. it’s just that crowds of people want to at least sit in the booth and watch. what it's like to rise into the sky. well, at least virtually it’s surprising that they don’t use it. first, there is enormous social value in distraction. there is a huge interest among young guys in everything that we don’t talk about today. this is more than sports. this is

falling in love for almost a lifetime , you know, and here it is. uh, besides, let's talk about emotional things. here. there are also uh such aspects as technical literacy, that is, a person who comes there from childhood. we will do this and that due to the emotional pressure on the aviation organization. yes, firstly, he must understand how it flies. he's studying it. he begins to understand this, his educational processes are structured completely differently. they are starting to teach him. this aspect of the aerodynamics of technological technology some moments already in the club. this is a completely different person. he then calmly enters there, either into a bounty or there, and all our designers are in some other bond. they started planning there tentatively. yes , the greats there are antonov and korolev, and me. of course, there

on mount klementyev in crimea yes this is our technology school, when a boy comes from the izmor aviation organization, he someone can fly, someone cannot fly, someone becomes a designer , someone is an engineer, someone is a pilot, but according to by and large, all these organizations are such a basic school that selects children who can subsequently create and create. i began to want to tell you more, here is one of the topics that we did not touch upon today, once upon a time, in the year ninety-eight. we are on the alarm system, which masterfully organized an aeroflop in kaliningrad . guardsman is a professional pilot , colonel from the reserve, and we have developed a training system. that's all you're talking about, this is the technological equipment - this is the radar dynamics of the driving aircraft. navigation training. in general, that's it. i contacted the then commander in chief

air force since 2-3 years of flying activity in a flying club is not only that we get a motivated person, but the main technically prepared question is that it is possible to shorten the educational process of a vocational school, at least for a year conveniently economically beneficial today we have mochansky is the same. so we remembered in belarus. he has this kind of training at the flying club. it absolutely corresponds to the first and second year of any flight aviation school. it turns out that a person comes to school prepared motivated absolutely we can shorten this distance. so this is beneficial in this story here regarding the length of the race. i’m not ready to discuss this point; most likely, this is the case, because it may indeed reduce the time, or it may not, because it’s still basic education. it is considered in this course, let's say so

carefully, let's say, in a sense, yes, but what will we achieve 100% we uh, we will achieve the fact that we will have a reduction in all of them, it will practically disappear, because we are in an educational institution of professional level we will get those people who will reach the finish line 100%. that is, he will become 100% professional in the specialty for which he entered. this is very important, because these guys are eliminated at the preparation stage. uh, these are colossal costs, especially in government institutions, where private citizens pay money from the budget. it's clear. well, he ’ll go and finish his studies at his own expense, but if he’s not physiologically ready to fly, that is, well, he’s not coordinated, he can’t control by plane. he will leave, and in - in a year, institutions , if a person, uh, while training military pilots there, uh, the state spent colossal money, that is, everyone understands how much it costs to fly a training

jet plane there. there is crazy money for the poet and in order to understand that this person is not capable. before that, he still flies there for 20-30 hours. after the instructors tell him, everything, brother, will be forgiven and under the wing. and this is an important point , this is the educational hole that we have. uh, the one that existed it was always in the soviet union. we always received military schools for people who passed the initial take-off flight, of course, well, but here is the commission in which you and i took part. do you think this will have some effect in the long term, but it seems to me that sergei neverov is simply a very serious person and, apparently, sets the task correctly. and if he has set a task, as far as i know him, he probably assumes that this task will be solved. you know what you liked and coming from

that meeting, which was, firstly, i understood, uh, and i saw the interest of one deputy chairman. this is neverov and the second two onkoo in that they clearly understand for themselves that this is really a ripe issue in relation to legislative proposals that were paid attention to how detailed they are discussed, yes, that is, we must definitely find some kind of that decision, that is, these questions that are not brushed aside. secondly, there is a very good support team there, which really initiates supports these questions. uh, the legislative training of these authors. this is sergey detyonyshev there. yes, there is kulikov, a team that is preparing these legislative proposals in every possible way, working through them and preparing the entire list of issues for this. these are the assistants who are directly involved in preparing the work of this commission and the entire range of issues that are put forward there, it is really ripe. now to schedule a new meeting of the working group i strongly hope

that this will give results and some confidence in neverov’s reaction advankova. my belief is that we will get the desired outcome for the aviation community. wonderful, thank you very much. we touched upon a very important issue, and i, well, am just all in the hope that this will actually be resolved, because without this we cannot continue to live. it was a podcast. everyone wants to fly, and we spoke today with the general director of the moscow aircraft repair plant. the lord almost told me mr. nastya no, with comrades, nikolaevich, the fact that we have known each other for many years is the topic that we raised today, i think concern a lot of people and i really wanted the podcast, which is called everyone wants to fly, to become the slogan for the development of small aviation in our country. it was leonid monitoring pilot today true. we spent time with you

on the ground and i think it was not in vain. see you soon, see you in touch. this is a podcast of wonderful life with you. i am its leading writer alexey varlamov, and today we will talk to the wonderful writer and philosopher mikhail mikhailovich prishvin . i am sure that you are all very familiar with him. this is the name from childhood school years, when you they wrote dictations of presentation, to the authors, who were none other than our hero mikhail prishvin, by the way, to say e this is a tradition when soviet schoolchildren wrote their first lines in school notebooks based on his texts. it happened

during his lifetime in the 30s and 40s. and prishvin was very amused by this, because he himself was a careless student. he was retained for the second year. then everyone kicked him out of the gymnasium. and so he wrote that so many years had passed since you kicked me out of school. and now according to me through books, children learn to write and read. well , of course, prishvin for most of us is a naturalist writer, the author of wonderful stories about birds, dogs, and other animals about trees, about nature, in general. and i thought so for a long time, until, during the times of glasnost and perestroika , i came across his diary in the october magazine. and this diary absolutely changed my understanding of this man and made me take him extremely seriously and write a book about him. and in general, never stop thinking about mikhail prishvin, paustovsky

once said that if nature could feel gratitude to a person for the fact that he sang her beauty, then the first person to receive this gratitude would be mikhail prishvin. i think not only nature, but also russian history of the 20th century, is also very grateful to prishvin . but the evidence that he left about her in his main book, and prishvin’s main book was precisely his diary, which he kept throughout. for fifty years i wrote every day several pages and the volume of this diary, which was recently published in full volume there are about 25 of this diary. these are the ams. and, probably, the one who reads all these 25 volumes will be as wise as prishvin. what do we know about this man, and he was born in 1873, and was born not far from

the wonderful russian city, yelets, in a merchant family, lost her father early, and there in yelets i went to the gymnasium to study in yelets there was only one gymnasium, a gymnasium. it is remarkable because ivan bunin and the future philosopher and priest sergei bulgakov studied there. and the geography teacher in this gymnasium was none other than the philosopher vasily vasilyevich rozanov and that’s it. this was around the same time. just imagine a small, beautiful, charming yelets men's gymnasium, which, by the way, has still been preserved and there is now a school there. and once upon a time, almost a century and a half ago , we met in this school. well, we missed each other a little, because bunin, uh, was numerically from this gymnasium or left this gymnasium a little earlier than he came to it. he came here in this wonderful building, consciously they coincided and rozanov himself played a huge

role in fate. prishvina because first