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hello live on channel one program time will tell. i am artyom sheinin today, as always, we will discuss the most important current events. and , of course, we will, among other things, talk a lot about the prospects for development and the conflict that is taking place on the territory of the former ukraine , the conflict between russia and the american-centric west. we will talk a lot about the fact that there are some signs , the question is how to treat them, signs that there is a desire and readiness to fully sponsor the kiev regime. well, maybe it’s decreasing in some western countries, but only on their decision and on the extent to which they are ready to pump up the kiev regime with weapons and money. it depends on how long, so to speak, this sick man of europe

will last, because he himself has been incapacitated for absolutely a long time. this is understandable to all balanced, objective people, but within the framework of this conversation we will say a lot that the usa is there and there president biden, whether president biden has decided or not decided, then president biden is everything, and i just wanted to start the program for us , well, just to have it in the subcortex, when we say president, biden. we must always remember that president biden today is a man who is in a state that he demonstrates every day and once again demonstrated now at the general assembly of ion when he came to a meeting with the president of brazil lula de silva and a little did not take down the brazilian flag. but it’s okay, it doesn’t happen to anyone, and then after, well, that means they had this meeting. and i don’t know what he was thinking about at that time, but apparently he was talking to someone and he just turned around, uh, and left. and i tell and show you all this

without any thought. i 've talked about this many times. i have neither the desire nor the joy to mock a person who, due to his age, is already very advanced. well, such complex physical and, most importantly , mental conditions. i’m not talking about this just to giggle again. this is already a problem for americans. why are they keeping this, like an old man, and most importantly, they are going to shove him for another 4 years. these are questions about their humanity, a question that is important for our subsequent conversation. when we say, biden, biden will decide, biden will not decide , biden will continue, will not continue, you look at this old man, well, in my opinion, he has extreme dementia. you really imagine that he decides something or doesn’t decide. this is an important question: who and what are we actually dealing with now? so. think about it now , after a short advertisement, let's begin. you are lawyer marta matveeva yes, my mother got

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peace it is very important to continue asking questions. many years in the intellectual club what where when is the autumn series of games on sunday on the first and always on 1tv.ru? they will be shown that we continue to work live , discussing the most important current events. in my opinion. many of these events are relevant today, which they are discussed and sounded one way or another, uh, explicitly or not in the most obvious way, but nevertheless, they are grouped around the question. what are the prospects for further escalation of hostilities active on the territory of the former ukraine or respectively?

what is the prospect of some kind of cessation or reduction in the pace of these hostilities, which in one way or another largely depends in addition to, of course, what is happening on the battlefield, but depends on how much assistance will or will not be received. uh, we'll talk about this today, but in fact, these are these. uh, let's say, uh, correspondence conversations or correspondence discussion of what is fraught with further. there may be a continuation of the active stage of the conflict, they are ongoing. at different levels in my opinion, one of these levels is those blows that have resumed. uh, tonight, according to a message from the ministry of defense, the strikes that we resumed , of course, we didn’t stop, but the message from the ministry of defense says that at the military industry facilities, the center for radio-technical reconnaissance and the training of sabotage groups, the strike targets, and the achieved

everyone is amazed, but why am i talking about a certain, well, another level uh hmm about moving to another level of this correspondence conversation, because, judging by the messages of the ukrainian power engineers a and including uh ukrenergo, and not today, like once they announced that today, due to the consequences of the first attack in 6 months , there is damage to energy facilities in the western central region, shutdowns in the rivne zhytomyr, kiev, dnipropetrovsk , kharkov regions as a result of explosions , energy supply companies were damaged, and so on further and so on. i, of course, well, it’s not that i don’t really want to joke here, of course, they would probably have to declare all this in order to get some additional funding, but somehow i doubt that they would play such games, therefore, apparently, this information, which is confirmed by the mass of ukrainian publications about the loss of light, water , energy facilities, and so on. in many areas. it confirms that today’s

strikes again targeted objects, and the energy structures of moreover the object power structures were damaged to such an extent that in some areas they affected railway traffic about this too. judging by uh, ukrainian sources , a number of electric trains are departing with a delay due to the voltage drop in kiev after the morning attack. that is, this is really some six months in terms of the energy structure. so they are noticeably active or not, despite the fact that for several weeks now we have discussed this more than once. here, uh, activity has noticeably revived, and among the krareich, and in the attacks on the crimea , in the attacks on the crimea, which is being carried out and missiles and drones. so, uh, and today, including the kiev regime, tried to carry out uh, that means, uh, 19 drone strikes on the crimea, including uh, these strikes, uh, there were uh

attempts on the territory of the kursk belgorod oryol region, a and in general, well, objectively speaking, over the past month and a half there has been a density of these attempts. well, they practically became daily and our transition to the next level. let's say harshness, but it happened only today and in my opinion. this is also a conversation. and not even from ukrainian with the owner river guys. well, as it were, what next? and here we just get to the point of what’s next. depends on certain decisions that are made or not made in the united states of america regarding support for ukraine , which itself would have been unable to fight for a long time and fights only to the extent to which it supports it. and here is an important point, since cr-rake always declares that they are not given everything they need, because if we gave them, then if we gave them, then they would already be drinking, like

it was announced that there was beer there in yalta and that they were going to feed the fish there somewhere, and so on. well, feeding the fish still lies ahead. zelensky - that's for sure. well, the united states answers them over and over again. and in my opinion. everything is somehow more assertive and irritated as kerbis says. listen to everything that, as they said, the ukrainian military needs to carry out this counter-offensive. they received from the united states from our allies and partners, american support is unprecedented and historical, it largely ensures progress operations. what? pay attention, this is even the case when it doesn’t even matter what a person says, even look at the facial expressions. now, even if you don’t know english and don’t hear the translations, it’s clear that this is a person. well, how about adding some kind of harsher translation here, and you will immediately understand what the emotional person who is speaking means. yes he says. here is from this series, while saying that

they were given everything they needed. uh, despite the fact that from there all the time in give this, give this, if if we had this, we would then give them time after time. uh, they say there are no guys. here kirby says, we gave you everything, gesticulating and surprisingly calmly corin-jumper learned karin today is an important day of your life. let's listen to karen jean-pierre. is president biden ready to take part in negotiations to become a mediator between russia and ukraine ? we promised to provide them with the necessary security assistance so that they continue to fight bravely, and we have already seen how they do this and again russia started this war this is an aggression that russia started and russia can put an end to it. we will help as much as the brave people of ukraine need to fight. please note that korin is conducting this conversation against the backdrop of a block on cnn. zelensky arrives in

new york, facing skepticism and american supporters of military aid. it’s just like this is going into one. that is. this is where he encounters the skepticism of those very ones. and then karen jean-pierre says, well, guys, we’ll continue to give you everything you have. well it’s as if you have no options. let's fight is very revealing in this sense and the article. listen if by the end of the month american legislators do not agree on a budget, the authorities will be forced to stop any activity that is not of paramount importance, that is, possibly stopping the supply of weapons to ukraine and stopping the training of the ukrainian military, this also means stopping funding for new assistance as part of the initiative to promote the security of ukraine ministry of defense . the united states will not be able to enter into agreements with defense industry, new contracts for the production of weapons for kiev please note the very important emphasis that if

in the previous month and a half it was said that you have no success at the front, and this very skepticism depends on this, whether they will give it or not, and now as if it is incomprehensible, now he doesn’t say anything at all about the front, but they will give it or they won’t give it and get involved with absolutely, not depending on anything from the ukrainian government, but the factor is whether the legislators agree on the budget or the legislators don’t agree, this is such a very important nuance, what is this here. if only he had become a hostage not even of what he was doing. they are selling it in some completely different context, in the domestic political context of america and, uh, there are increasingly frequent statements by members of, well , all kinds of political figures. well , of course, congressmen. first of all , we are concerned. they are the legislators who must come to an agreement. well, here is one of the negotiating parties. it seems to me that our approach to the problem is very significant, we listen to the problem. i would say that, firstly

, we no longer have money for ukraine, we have run out of more moreover, we have a deficit of 2 trillion dollars. so the money we gave to ukraine, we ourselves borrowed, these are the facts, and secondly, he chose not the best time to arrive, given the internal situation. thirdly, the whole story with ukraine is a blunder of the biden administration, if our commander-in-chief had not slept at world forums, the situation in ukraine and in the world would have been much better. you see, yes, this is a republican dude from florida, and i understand that at this moment he is not at all interested in ukraine about their war, weapons, and so on further, he is now working for his voters in florida once and against the democratic president biden 2, who is sleeping in international forums . well, having on this basis with which i started the program today. well, as it were, what is it called. what else should he say about him, but it is absolutely clear that those republicans who are playing this game, and they

are not currently discussing ukraine, they are discussing their attacks on the democrats and, above all, on biden. this is also evident in the words of the leader, er, republican. how is he doing with them? this one is called the speaker in congress. yes? yes, it depends on the gender of the republican majority, mccarthy, who i will remind you, and the day before yesterday, i also went quite hard at the request of ukraine, let me remind you. at the upcoming meeting, zelensky, you intend to give guarantees for new funding. zelensky is elected to congress, he is our president, i am not going to promise anything. i have questions for him, where is the reporting for the money that we have already spent. what is the plan to achieve victory ? i think this is what american society wants to know, no matter what it is about. i want to trust that hardworking taxpayers know where their money is going. pay attention and mccarthy

talk to taxpayers with taxpayers. for him, ukraine is like a wall that he taps on the ball and today, when the land was brought to congress. and where in his time he used to perform and be received with stormy, prolonged applause. and today he wasn’t there on the map, really. eh, softened it up a little. these are the pills that he distributes in practice. he i found this seemingly very mild formulation. why not now? as before, what please? zelinsky wanted to join the congress meeting. we simply don't have time for this. he already spoke before congress this week. we have a very busy schedule with a lot to do. do you understand, right? well, that is, this is softer than in the previous synchronization. but this is just like that. eh, click, not even a whine. this is sour, zelensky wanted, that is , you understand, that is, khlestakov still has nothing anywhere and he wanted to annex. that

there is, apparently, he still hasn’t left the stage of the person who performs there, performs himself, everyone stands up, everyone there claps. he still seems to be playing a role, and on the map he says, well, that is, he could say that it’s like, who are you anyway? well, there wasn't enough time. well, that is, last year there was a time. and now it’s like, well, there’s no time, which really didn’t stop mccarthy himself from finally saying that there were no guarantees, and the allocation of 24 billion, which he was actually talking about, he never gave to zelensky, which is also in general, that is, on the one hand, the pill softened on the other hand. anyway , he left his line now, accordingly, so, in the first circle, we all understand that the allocation and or not of american money. these are actually the most important conditions for continuation. the continuation of the active ukrainian reich will be the first question that arises, all this talk of the american republican congressmen. i didn’t give this mccarthy guarantees, which, as we understand , are an internal political game. this is all a game that they will play out. and then that's it

will it return to normal or is this, in your opinion, some kind of long-lasting american trend. this is not a long-lasting trend. this is temporary. uh, temporary situation, because democrats are republicans. not yet, i emphasize, we have not agreed. yes, he won’t allocate money. well, exactly to that extent yes, so that the holiday on the territory of this state, the holiday in quotes, of course, continues, of course, you are a matter of honor for them, well, it’s not a question of principle, let’s say, but another thing is what they are playing out now. uh, how is it called? remember, you were surprised that jean-corine jean-junker said one thing, and in the line below. yes, she said something fundamentally different. well, democracy is what it’s called, otherwise how will they now play this card, this game of democracy and so on before making a choice, but another thing is that they will still palm it off, like a good father. eh, son, what do you call slipping

money for an afternoon snack? they will definitely be, but the main burden will be borne by the europeans. this is already obvious and actually joseph biden. and lloy thick they say this directly, that we are counting on our europeans. e partners. now they have become partners again, and in the matter of financing this, well, this armed conflict. and the fact that zelensky was greeted coldly in the usa, this is really an alarming signal for him personally, but not for ukraine. and there it is divided into a variety of different things. eh, caches with chron have a lot of spare politicians who, at the right time, can be pulled out of their sleeves and placed in certain positions. that is, uh, this ukraine project is definitely not another thing is closed, that at some point, if the european hmm partners, relatively speaking, the united states and the united states itself, uh, for some reason or reasons, lose

attention to, uh, ukraine, then a strange thing will arise situation, and ukraine will turn into such a you know, well, excuse my french uh, hmm, a non-functioning sex toy that will try to threaten. you see, it would n’t matter at all to threaten not only russia but also poland, which is already happening in germany italy france, who is simply threatened, but the situation will be objective such, because ukraine now is not a process. this is not production. this is risk management. this is managing something that is already so toxic that it falls out of the hands of uh-huh risk management. this is the highest skill, and neither europeans nor americans seem to possess this skill at this stage. uh, bearing in mind your statements regarding the complete intellectual dysfunction of so many western authors, well, they can’t control it, maybe someone can, but not them, and now

someone is for them. this is the one on mine it's still dangerous to talk about all this democracy. so when i look at this, uh, grandfather, constantly going somewhere into the sunset. today when i wrote this, i tell him why say hello to the word powerlessness , there are five people behind him, standing, whom only he sees, he can choose from. i said hello to anyone there and left. but this means that someone is behind his back, and control and attention. however, not in front. he does not report to whom, unlike you hint at the special services, or the pentagon or the armed forces. this is our anyone, they, in principle, are not they report not to congress, not to any one, they didn’t have their own budgets, but sorry about these budgets. they have increased appetites in ukraine and so on . they just won’t pull, especially since there are still many different funny conflicts ahead in central asia in taiwan, in the south, in the south and south caucasus, and so on , there is still a lot of things ahead and either funds will need to be allocated to the special services and the pentagon

additionally and in unlimited amounts, or sorry i agree. well, in fact, here it is signs, but this ongoing, well, i don’t know, games or tug-of-war or tapping this ukrainian ukrainian, uh, cards on some kind of wall there are a lot of them. here. i already showed you the policy, which says that if they agree, or if they don’t agree, uh, that is, it is clear that with the help of ukraine, the republicans did this with a pin, which they prick the canoe. yes, biden and the democrats, as it were, but they are trying to make something out of this. well, that means this is democracy, world peace, and so on and so forth. there are many signs that this kind of violence is happening at different levels. i’ll give you a couple of examples, example one is the same new york times that met you, well, with the coldest shower of all cold showers or showers and or what? how are these souls? yes, of all the cold ones, the souls

with which he was showered more than once during his presence. eh, there was a new york times story about the fact that they hit konstantinovka themselves. they published it before his arrival. this is all an investigation, but at the same time it’s the same new york times. today it comes out with this articles, which, well, such as at first the boy, as if they had kicked a fly, and today comes out with an article that shows that , well, the boy is not guilty of anything, please. after a series of victories, military analysts last year believed that ukraine's summer counteroffensive would try to split russian supply lines in the south by driving in. wedge between western russia and crimea russian military expected this and prepared moscow moved troops dug new fortifications and laid mines when ukraine began counter-offensive, even with fresh supplies of modern western tanks and equipment. she faced a prepared defense that had not been seen in europe since world war ii. by the way, it’s very interesting

that you see, there, of course, he hit konstantinovka, but here, you understand, the russians have had this kind of defense since the second world war. and, well, that is, this is the kind of article that portrays them as more like heroes; moreover , if you look at it, i only just now noticed, to be honest, if you look at in the inset of this map it is written there, but the progress achieved since the time when the counter-offensive began, in principle, i don’t know which map. they drew there. here but here is how i imagine this process in scale. not very much, it seems to be beating, that is, on what scale they draw such progress is not very clear, but because if it is assumed that somewhere right here , uh, melitopol, relatively speaking, yes, this is a repetition of the same thing the same cards, this is it, and somewhere, and somewhere there, as it were, a magician, well too much they draw, that is, they create the feeling that they have somehow advanced. although, in general, well, on a map with a scale. i often just realized that there was something strange there, and the same thing was very figurative. i think it showed up today, when the potion was in

congress. now look, even here the sound is not needed, so here it comes. listen, yes listen , look, yes, run it, that is, he was told not to say anything. here, that is, in principle, here you are, in principle, if you look at it even without sound, then this is an lcd. you know, like in court, when a person is taken to court, these are prisoners of war. yes, not even a prisoner of war, but just a man being led. this is some advice. please tell me you plead guilty. and so he goes. you can't say anything. here in the security, however, they gave him such also to the question, speaking of something more significant, this

is this dude in a yellow-brown tie, this is a dude who took a competency test a couple of weeks ago, because he was 200 there for 40 seconds. well, actually, for now they trust him to escort with the potion and on the other hand. well, cheer up means. representative of the democrats chuck schumer a and this is a symbol, yes, that is, roughly speaking , representatives of different parties were assigned to him on both sides and he doesn’t say anything somewhere like that, and they just walk next to him. well, that is, and lawyers at the same time. so exactly, security and lawyers at the same time, plus they look after each other, so that where what doesn’t mean there is. well, khlestakov, you never know where a candlestick will be hidden or something else like that? this is very symbolic, returning to a serious conversation. but to what extent now using fu in an internal situation, then all this american history. you understand foreign policy. they always have a continuation of the internal. now they will play it back. but the main question is further: then they

will return to this at the previous level of support. yeah, or this card has already been played somehow. so it won’t be the same level, but something different. well, an important question. in general , the topic is such a large multi-layered one. you are not discussing us ordinary people here, of course the clan does n’t care and the clan of democrats and the republicans don’t care about the clan, but the political periphery is like this, sometimes it is raised to the top when it is beneficial to play with it and forgotten when it is not needed, when it is needed in elections. uh, this is to consider the card played back at least time, which means , uh, it is used in exactly this way as a treasure. it doesn’t even matter how the world will perceive it, i mean their formal leaders, official leaders. well, even this doesn’t matter, because they believe that they are at the top of some kind of pyramid and that their bidens. well , especially since everyone there will still look towards washington with respect, because bayda is not just biden the head of some empire.

so, uh, in the end, uh, the roman emperors once didn’t give a damn either, until the barbarians came to rome , they didn’t care that the barbarians on the outskirts remade them, what was important was the intrigues inside. yeah, and sometimes the result of these intrigues was that someone was sent to fight the gals. yeah, they thought they would bury them and sometimes they became emperors. in general, this is a kind of cuisine of its own, which is beginning to talk more about itself on the eve of the elections. yeah, after the elections, of course, and depending on who wins, we will see a surge in some new ukrainian topics. but in any case, we have to build a ukrainian direction in one way or another and while there is a man sitting there in kiev, who never only sits and flies washington sometimes goes around saying something, uh, which means it’s trying to convince everyone that it’s right. there was a period when it was very important for the west to please mr. zelensky and they did this. the hugs were strong,

and the caresses were gentle, tactile, very strong palpable the applause was very loud for the actor who received the world stage. he had some good scenes. before. i the applause sounded loudly in good halls in kiev and moscow where he earned even more than in kiev, but now he has received a world stage; moreover, in his theater he pushed aside all the previous actors; the receptions were grandees, and he became the only one who now especially there? well, of course, poroshenko still remembers. well, not so much, tymoshenko was completely forgotten. and savchenko, in general, already has a different era, it seems, a surname. here it is they still have it. of course, the applicants will come, for example, if they still come out, of course, but we are talking about the current ermak, he sits for a reason in this very zelensky is that he succeeded, he is the only one. and you think the leader of his theater is still an actor, but look now, because he is trying to direct his film. yeah, i’m

cool, the film won’t happen without me, it will fail at the box office. he is sure that no one will refuse him, because he is prima and a cool actor. but the director is puzzled because an actor is very expensive. if you continue to pay such fees to an actor, then even if the film is successful at the box office, it will not collect enough to compensate for the losses , i must say, it’s not like it’s tearing up. yes , that’s why the director has his own calculations. and uh. there is an opinion, there is an opinion in some offices, that it is time to look for other actors. and that, perhaps , there will be some difficult period until these actors gain new popularity, but they will have to go through it, but look, dmitry georgievich, here i am returning to your actual thesis, that then in in this case, if this is a search for another actor for plus or minus the same script, then in general we don’t care, because if it ’s not the actor zelensky, but conditionally. there is an actor there, i don’t know, there is ermak or an actor, there is

zaluzhny, and in any case, something for us . nothing changes for us. in any case, it will have to work hard so that the goals of the special military operation are achieved - demolitarization and identification. no one is filming e. uh, the problem is off the agenda. will zelensky be there or someone else, he will receive support and in the end ends. they are these guys, and speaking english, they still argue about the amount of help. yes, and not about stopping it, so and therefore, uh, that means, uh, and therefore help will go further. moreover, when the elections are over , everyone will sit back in their chairs. around the new president or the new old president and about the voters, they will have the opportunity to forget for a while, and they will no longer reflect the imaginary or real interests of the voters, but the interests of those who stand behind him, what you have been talking about since started those guys.

who are the owners of large multinational corporations, the military-industrial complex and other people with large bank accounts, so then we can forget about the voters until the next elections and deal again with issues of the political periphery, but there are many different scenarios, because no one does not remove the possible ones within the american establishment, but the aggravation of the situation around taiwan if this happens. it’s clear again, ukraine with everything else there is nothing there, many seasons of this there are many different options for preserving american dominance and, if possible, simplifying it. uh, and therefore to say that zelensky or his successor. eh, lose support. west we certainly cannot agree. and here’s the question, in fact, and you answered it, that even if with this actor, using your successful image, even if with this actor, this director had some tensions. that’s a change of contract with

a new actor, a change of actor, uh, i see that maxim doesn’t agree with the change of actor. uh, that's not i definitely emphasize that there is not necessarily a change in the script, but there may be a change in the script, because all the same, well, it’s like 100 billion and 24 billion are different stories, moreover, uh guys, this is still persistent. here we are talking there, so he understood the spanking, he didn’t understand the spanking. here he is there for 2 days. there in one makal, there is this very same one on the map, which means the new york time was dipped. nothing normally emerged from the potion and that means, uh. here they ask makkol, who was one of those who met with khlestakov today. a what did you ask for? he says, well, first of all he asked for air cover for two things, that is, f-16 aircraft. and so is makkol, by the way, and yes and he says he needs long-range artillery to strike at crimea, but at the present time he does not have it. we need to give them everything they need. if the current administration

does not pass this on to them, then i put forward a proposal that we spell this out in our bill on signaling, so that we spell out in this document the weapons that zelensky is requesting and which the administration does not provide this to the question, but about the fact that yes, who is better for us, the republicans. here's who is better for us, who is worse for us, and regarding the extent to which we can now assume that the script is changing there depending on the actor. yes, the questions are there. they obviously began to publicly tease him on the site. here. what about the script? i saw you disagree. well, i don’t agree, the only one is that they will change the actors. why won't zelensky's change change anything at all? what do i agree with? this is with the comparison that was just now life and you said, artyom, about zelensky’s last year’s visit under the same program, both to washington and with this visit.

i very carefully followed the comparisons, not only i, but well, one comparison was made by the newspaper mont for us and compared two speeches by president biden of the assemblies last year, and this year and right here they actually have it in the subtitle, and the main idea was last year. russia was already mentioned in the third topic sentence. and this year, after 22 minutes of performance, 22 is at 22 minutes 5 minutes. he spoke about ukraine only 27 yes, yes, well, nevertheless, it’s already very close to the end. now let’s compare again, last year and this year. well, then the entire congress, both chambers , accepted him as a hero, now they only take him to the senate. well, this shows everything. yes, yes, in general, not exactly this, but, of course , the impression of the factor, in short, clearly not a triumph, then just

zelensky’s speech. i listened to both of his speeches. if you're talking about the speech in the general assembly, we'll talk about it later. well, there were two performances. yes, that means okay, well , we'll talk later. but, and then there i was again with i talked to my western interlocutors. well, there were two obvious punctures. it’s just about poland. well, yes, he’s sensible. now we ’ll move on to this one. yes, he shouldn’t, but if we move on from this topic with this one, and the second thing is how much he, and not justifiably, raised the stakes in this war, they say that the goal of ukraine yeah, these are russian nuclear weapons and now all the sensible people in the west are here. everyone emphasizes, just throws up their hands and says guy to whom? well, you sa- well, you’re already quite narrow, which means you’re either really realistic starts goals. eh, ending the conflict in ukraine exposes either this nonsense and after

that, well, glu looks at all these phrases. of course, they are purely formal, ritual, they all pronounce zelensky’s plan there. but if zelensky’s plan is, yes , unconditional surrender of a nuclear power, then excuse me. here, uh, unconditional surrender of a nuclear power, then it seems to become at some point, it’s clear, that this actor is broken. and perhaps some other one is needed or a broken actor is needed for some time play, but he should not ask for the same staff. it needs to be fixed. why did you want to add one more point. it’s not just that the leader of the republican majority in the house of representatives immediately said what we have cited here. what is the plan for achieving victory , this is what it is plast by the way, about the plan. this is about the fact that they, uh, have a lot of options. play back and forth with this actor, because literally. look here. i read to you the makol, who says that he is there, he wants rockets air cover and says, we need

this transfer of everything they need at the legislative level, and after this a friend comes. the news that a group of us legislators opposed the allocation of $24 billion to help kiev will not be released yet. it is explained how the previously provided ukrainian funds were spent, and to what goals washington is striving for. the question of what their plan is, which means they sent a message to the white house and president biden. it was signed by 23 congressmen and six. e senators. well there they are, by the way, by the way, uh, a republican from the state. yeah, what is our strategy and what is the president’s plan for exit, what does the administration consider a victory in ukraine , that is, all these questions are going back and forth. yes , i have an answer to this question that you asked, it is very relevant and does not concern political issues. this is pure economics. the fact is that i will remind you that the military-industrial complex of the united states of america is a private company. yes , private companies work for profit, and not for the sake of some ideas, or even attention to national interests, but uh, there is

such a concept as profit taking. because if it is not recorded, then it is quite possible to go into losses. but at the moment i think that these appeals from ng congressmen to members of groups of deputies and so on. they are connected with the fact that they are under pressure. eh, the fact is that the military-industrial complex has already received sufficient funds, they need to fix it. eh, profit, if they don’t do this, if they eat money from the american budget too greedily, then everything will collapse. oh, that means there won’t be a choice at all, you understand, right? that is, now they are already they are preparing to take profits and transfer this conflict to another, perhaps dormant mode, understand? a? well, by the way, it’s very revealing that this comrade james david bans is a republican. agaya americans says he deserves to know what their funds were used for. how is the counter-offensive going, have the ukrainians become any closer to victory, than they were 6 months ago, it’s as if he published it from this letter. well, then about this

strategy, when zelensky, of course. grandfather introduce, well, this is the official one a position that is slipping more and more into mere slogans. these look especially good. well, not from people, when he brings a phrase he has memorized in his poor english, but from americans who are closely monitoring the ukrainian situation. but, probably, they listen not only to these official glorious reports, but also to the a-a quite intelligible experts who speak there . the other day i listened to a person who participated in our program here, vadim yuryevich karasev, he invites you to very smart experts have their time to participate military every wednesday. he invites and so i can briefly say that it wasn’t that i was amazed, but it was interesting from the ukrainian side. that is, of course, i absolutely sympathize with your military expert. he is completely in the world of resources. he has a radio and plays it at night.

counter germany tries to understand what is happening there and here is an interesting thought, which , of course, does not come from the lips of anyone from zelensky’s team or from the lips of the verkhovna rada deputies there. well, for example, he analyzes about this he was showing something on the map. we've made some progress. he says yes, we say that we have passed the first line of defense. but we got through it so slowly. that during this time the russians calmly withstood the new line of defense and beyond. this is no longer the second line, the defense has been weakened. this is a new one, we will go through it. let there be another first , this is all endless and really the americans. they don’t listen to this, they don’t understand it themselves, that is, the ukrainians are demanding more and more help, in fact they are dooming europe and the whole world to an endless war with unclear goals, and more and more more questions will arise from the americans, that is, the americans are dooming

europe to an endless war with their maxim : only our victory, only our victory for the americans. i would agree. i why is this bad exactly, because ukraine is plunging europe into an endless group, this group will have more than all its goals in this war, they have already achieved an agreement, and slava yes is lined up behind them , there will be a new day for nat, and with generally stable and american-centric as never before russian gas to european markets. no more bought. i completely understand that on a different level, you are telling me what alexey alekseevich said before when applied to the military-industrial complex, that the americans now, as a corporation , also need to fix profits. that is, that they have already achieved the goals that they set, which they will list, they also need to fix profits, and therefore they don’t really need someone who is too zealous now. even though he helps nightmare

understand more, he is too zealous and already loses his senses. washington post today i looked at the international section of washington in the middle of the day. post, the second article is huge about how ukraine is quarreling with poland and they are sorting it out about quotes. oh, and then they asked some unnamed representative of the administration who told them. in general, to what extent is this conflict, absolutely insane in the eyes, taken them by surprise, that is, in fact , if ukraine has already lost the shores of the ukrainian current leadership so much that they are suicidal with their main ally, but then how will they receive help? no more quarreling with washington o o and this is where we we let's go out, and first of all, to the question. who is quarreling with whom or is it bad for washington that things like this happen here, well, in europe. well, although, yes, they have already solved all their problems, the german industry,

as they say, is leaving for germany and is leaving. i am so a branch that can be included. yes, there is a branch that can be included. it seems to me that their achievements are certainly american achievements. and i’m sure that this was definitely one of the goals that they set for themselves: the crushing success of yesterday’s performance olaf scholz, to which everyone who can simply came, and this picture symbolizes it. this is the importance of germany in the world that the americans were able to achieve in these last year and a half. that is, it’s like, uh, the largest economy in europe , which is headed by the person with whom they came to listen. that’s how many people. well, yes, by the way, he’s cruel, artyom, that is, to get there and how long she was in prison then, yes, it’s not even important here. how long were there then? it’s just that when olaf scholz performs, and no one came to listen, this is an indicator that i well

so, in this frivolous way, yesterday, when i saw this picture in the evening , i wrote about it in my telegram. you understand, this is in connection with all these conversations, that this one has 2% of the world economy, who has 22% of the world economy, that with whatever cool economic muscles that germany still has, if you don’t have sovereignty, you’re all equals impotent. and in principle, the americans brought about germany's public political impotence. that's it, actually. here is a symbol, for example, about this under angela merkel this was not the case for sure. now, i don’t know, but if we find and show the hall, but i think it was full, but not at least half full. listen, this didn’t happen to poroshenko, not like it happened to the scholtz of the german chancellor. that is, of course, these are clear indicators of how germany allowed itself to be let down, and this is one of america’s achievements because you and i have discussed here for many years that one of the main goals of the anglo-saxons and not only now, but many times

are to tear apart russia with its resources and germany with its industrial potential, which will they listen in germany? there is no us president, even if he has problems with mentality, but you need to listen to his niche, and then you will expect something from germany . absolutely right, and this is an indicator of much of what the americans have succeeded in. and now we are returning. it’s just these european squabbles, which, firstly, are either interesting or not interesting to the americans and the most important thing is whether they are, well, really quarrels, because we talked to you. this is about this, that is , a grain conflict, as it were, and which, well, how would still continue, because the finational times writes that the european union is considering the possibility of them suing, which means with kiev, which filed them against poland , hungary and slovakia, stressed that the european union will protect them, this too, as if such a powerful signal is exactly, then what are we talking about, which means, uh, about the fact that, well,

like, guys, you’ve completely let yourself go now. about the reich he began to crawl away, he began to crawl away and through the mouth of his minister of agricultural policy and uh, what do they call it? yes food, which i had already discussed the situation with my polish colleagues robert telos on the phone. la-la-la, we agreed to develop both a podolyak and a podolyak, which is also, so to speak, well, i realized that there are actually no conflicts, he says, it’s an economic conflict. he says, no, this is all russian propaganda. ukraine and poland will be able to come to an agreement. uh, your support will continue. that is, he clearly, well, kind of reduces the scope of what elya did there . well, it’s true that peter pavel has already come out on the side of ukraine. so, the czech who said, that well, actually, he is constantly under pressure, if we were in his place, we could lose our heads more often than he la-la poplars. well, really, here i need to add that

this is a former nato general; there were no former nato generals. it doesn’t happen. therefore, this one stands firmly, which means, behind a kind of golden boy, which, by the way, is also very significant. but this concerns the economic background. but the external political background, as it were, now we will discuss whether i am right in speaking, as it were, or not, as if the political background, as it were, continues to splash out and is already flowing from grain and economics into the military sphere. let's listen to mavetsky. we are no longer transferring any weapons to ukraine, based on the fact that we ourselves are now arming ourselves with the most modern weapons. if you don’t want to defend yourself, then you must have something to defend yourself with. we recognize this principle. well, actually, since you started this topic. we'll kind of continue it. so, this conflict, well, we understand that zelensky said, without naming poland, that some countries are showing false hmm solidarity, that means duda answered him,

compared him to a drowning man, uh, who is drowning everyone who is next to him, but now it has already turned to a conversation about weapons, again the question is this is the development of the conflict. or is this an imitation of the development of a conflict and it will never be forgotten because the poles are proud and arrogant, it’s not for nothing that the word arrogance came into our ukrainian language from polish. but they won’t forget this, because zelensky shouldn’t have if. just wait for this. and, if it’s foamy, then there’s no need to go too far for a while to cause harm. so alexey alekseevich forgot the executive massacre. somehow they always manage to do this one and a half times well, first of all, they didn’t forget, they forgot to drink, it didn’t stop them from giving ukraine those 110 billion zlotys 23 billion dollars that they

gave during the war to the wanderer, which they didn’t forget here, that oh the poles now. here you go. i polyakov have been studying their mentality for about 7-8 years, when my dad, a sports journalist, went to the world cycling race, poland , czechoslovakia, gdr and. eh, when they came here as sports journalists, they were all at our house and i remember. you love poles no, that means since then i love their frankness. and when one pole said frankly. well, we don’t like germans and russians to drink anymore, but we don’t like germans. he said more in the soviet union, speaking about the gdr and the ussr . that’s how they are, they don’t like everyone. but he told us that no, he doesn’t love us most of all. of course, they don’t like russians, but at the same time they don’t like ukrainians either. they will not forgive this impudence. why are they helping ukraine because we are the main or

potential enemy? but at the same time, we must take into account the nuances and the fact that they will not supply more weapons to ukraine. this is very essential fact. they were second in europe after the uk, please we'll go to advertising and then we'll continue. eh, this same topic, please tell me. but, knowing that this is a deep polyakov, you don’t assume that when they say that they won’t do it anymore. they are given weapons, which, in principle, is all they wanted to give them. they just gave it away. this is good, cunning, there is no mine for a bad game. or maybe a poppy expert. no. well, actually it won't be forgotten anyway. this ukrainian will be remembered constantly. this another question maxim, but uh, well, so as not to repeat the question, that this will not be forgotten, but because the volyn massacre, of course, has not been forgotten, but also many other things that have not been forgotten, but also this balance of interests and what will not be forgotten. it is very important

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we will not arm them anymore. we will arm ourselves and so on, but there is just one nuance. but maxim said that, of course, they will never forget. and this is such a crack that i’m leading nowhere in this conversation just one point. yes, of course, all this, but they have october 15th. the poles have parliamentary elections. and this rhetoric about reminding me of money about this insult that they threw at me, to be honest, more and more gives the impression of some kind of election game. so, as if we are talking about america about you with your experience, firstly, of course yes. and once again i remember about america, as soon as you give me this opportunity to remember our previous part of the conversation. indeed, in fact. uh, once again for a few months, all american politicians actively remember about the voters , the elections will end, they will sit down and discuss. yes, the costs are large, but from the point of view of how much the life of a russian soldier costs.

and that it costs us quite cheaply, when we support the war in ukraine, they can come to the conclusion that this whole thing needs to be continued now regarding poland. i have never been a mystic, but i have always believed that such a thing as national character exists, it is objective thing. but you know, reduce the decisions that are made in warsaw to emotions of politicians. this would be a great naivety of a politician, especially since a politician will always imitate a contract when it is necessary and his knackiness will play. the ability to play will simulate for polish leaders. today is auspicious. that solution to some strategic tasks and zelensky and having waxed like this, he allowed the polish political elite to go on the offensive against zelensky and the entire regime, which is being carried out today. in my opinion, we are talking about the fact that the polish leadership has moved to a new phase of preparation a possible, and important, annexation, perhaps

an attempt to occupy the western current ukrainian land population. you can do it now now. wait, why does poland have such ambitions? but then you can explain it more than there is not enough polish population, but for some reason there are eastern crosses. they i agree don't stop talking, in fact. this is the point of view. here, too, there is very little on you. yeah, well, i don’t agree with something. i do not agree, in principle, with the idea that the poles need to annex these areas. wait. now i'm trying to explain the force. not poland is that it is one of the most mononational states in europe, the weakness of poland between the two world wars. why was there a disaster on september 1, 1939, that poland was their eastern territory and what it had? this is a doctor. now i forgot france, belarusians are not entirely loyal , you understand, just like now, why do they need

so many belarusian students for all this? why don’t they have plans for belarusian russian students in poland in polish territories? and here, if you imagine in a nightmare that they are seizing this territory of galicia, which turned out to be simply toxic for all the states that owned them, that austria, hungary died, that the polish soldiers died, which, apparently, is a very kind person. are you sure that the polish authorities will treat this population ? in different scenarios, people may not be loyal to this population. alien population that will live in other places about o. look, the point is not whether the poles are idiots or not the poles are idiots. the point is that once again i tell you cards with eastern chairs. they are talking about the fact that lvov, aka lemberg, is their territory, exists, exists,

in my opinion, even with just a little money, they published it there together. they are looking after themselves there. well, what, while you were arguing, you didn’t hear dmitry georgievich said an important argument. and that many germans lived in france in the forties, that it was so needed. eh, hitler yes , of course, duda and marovetsky, nor hitler, but now we are removing the characters from here, we are taking let's take a certain logic of the process, roughly speaking, if poland claims to have some kind of political significance, then for them the return of what for them is a certain symbol. they are even a fetish, and for some even a fetish, but it’s strange if there is a condition, yes, not to try to do something, so this is a version, like a version, like a version. she. it seems to me that in dictomia greed and prudence always triumph over greed, but you know, if i didn’t voice it at all, man, but if and now, uh, in fact, this is the situation

in poland arose exactly when the political power in ukraine is clearly, weaker , of course, clearly weaker and sorry, but here , as if i’m not helpless and then, by the way , yes, by the way, and then uh, what makes you think that in power in poland i don’t even know. there they act from purely, ideally rational considerations. and what will happen to us if we do this? then there are different ways of joining, you know, you can introduce the world’s creative contingent. yes you can return it. eh, hereditary estate in polish steam, yes, then in the second stage, especially since ukraine already gave me failures, right? er, yes, conditionally, of course, the more he’s doing now. she is sitting there in warsaw and is counting reparations. all the rest. this is rational behavior. no, if the rational part, the more, the so-and-so we’ll call it. the more, the more questions. poland will control in europe at the price it will be for nat and for the leaders it is necessary for the united states of america. by the way, if so, well

, to end this conversation, because, well, the position, in general, is simply understandable, like two so to speak, those points. you are asking this question. you are like that sometimes, so to speak. well, just like that, a sarcastically thoughtful analyst. and sometimes you just have some, so these are them, what’s going on, or what? tell me, do they ever roll out rick on the radio in germany? are they idiots or something, but they roll them out. they are already presenting them in total , moreover, when they are going to count the drugs for the russian federation for the second world war, which created them on the current territory. tell me they are not idiots or perhaps and the third, when they are located. the borders of the russian federation when they concentrate some contingents there, and so on, and they argue and start talking about the fact that koenigsberg is, in general, like - kaliningrad is, as it were, koenigsberg and polish land, and so on. are they idiots or what? this is a nuclear power. well, here are three points for you that say that yes, sometimes they behave outwardly like idiots. well, there are probably

some calculations behind this; someone will now call them handsome, because when they are thrown reproach, well, how come you went to kiev? you hugged zelensky; it’s their own fault. he himself quarreled with us. so let's get back to this. he is, yes, he’s on us like that, uh, that’s the moment, moreover, i here agree with dmitry georgievich that because of zelya, he really got carried away and got carried away, and he’s already in charge, not just. after all , it’s not that he’s carrying problems. the problems are that he can’t stop, because he’s already said this more than once. he’s like a horse walker in an anecdote about his mother-in-law, and it’s successful here opened. yes, yes, and here she is successfully. you see, he’s already stopped like a tightrope walker, he’s already fallen, iq can only go, as if this is the only way, and therefore what happens next on this path is okay poland and even germany what does this mean, uh zelensky comes out with his peace plan and on the peace plan

on his own , impressive just from two uh, absolutely realistic. uh, like demands and dashes of ultimatums, well, after which everyone understands that this is such a, well, absolutely, uh, systemic, systemic thinker. eh, a realistic politician and, of course, we need him in every possible way uh, to support moreover in this same yes, after which even the swiss even the swiss are like, well, uh neutral neutral. yes, through the mouth of his minister of foreign affairs. they say that, well, in general it’s not good enough. they are so neutral and diplomatic. well, that's kind of good enough. well, that is, they say very softly that well , how would you do what? and what’s more, in the same speech he addressed the question that he’s interesting. is he an idiot or what? well, we understand that he’s not coming. here in this in the sense of the word, he’s exactly talking about the need to deprive russia of the right of the century, and what happens next is interesting. then he

receives a rebuke not from anyone, but from lena herself, please. ukraine zelensky said that moscow should not have the right of veto in the un security council do you support this demand? no, we do not support this, and i have repeatedly told my ukrainian negotiating partner about this. i think that this is important for the discussion in germany, not everything that ukraine offers to our government supported by us. yes, and another question again , since today we have such, as it were, communicating vessels, like politics and psychology, yes, interests and characters. yes, i did, when i heard the annulena berbok. well, first of all, uh, i remembered the hall in which schultz spoke and kind of thought. and what something depends on you, as it were. well, he said, it’s stupidity there, not stupidity there, whether anything depends on you, but most importantly, i

remembered this scene. look at her face. well, that is, it had to be at some point ukraine for this on the body language of the kuleba, lord , the body language of the kuleba, the body language of anna lena berburg. and now. well, roughly speaking, kuleba is sitting next to this zelensky zelensky is talking about this nonsense, anna lena berbock gives, as it were, some kind of despite what dmitry says, after all, it doesn’t cost her anything, by and large we’re talking about germany, which means she didn’t agree with ukraine and who cares, did she agree with ukraine or did she not agree? that is, it’s also like a political dummy to be completely funny and support, uh, ukrainian ideas, related to the exclusion of russia from the un security council, this does not understand anything at all in the modern system of international relations, beerbog can, together with other representatives of the german political elite , dream that the united states will promote them themselves to the security council, this is something else, this is still a fantasy , to discuss

seriously, but these ukrainian things. no , you see, really hmm here. eh, zelensky was captured by his illusions. he was sure that these were the applause that sounded means that the west is ready to make his bourgeois che guevara out of him. but he got confused hmm in the bourgeoisie. che guevara is not the same system of ideas and the same worldview . yeah yeah. and, by the way, regarding uh, hmm germany, who reacted like this, from this we can conclude that this is also some kind of coolness. in relationships, or is it just that? it really doesn’t mean anything, uh, formality, especially since nothing depends on them. please note that she is lena berba when she made this statement. she lied, she said that she i have always told my ukrainian partners that they are against russia losing its right to veto. eh, in the security council. that's sometimes. she

simply did not have to return to her ukrainian partners, i am engaged in fantasies, but in reality. uh, i think that uh, she just lied here in order to strengthen her this thesis that we are against what, uh, so that russia decides from the right century, and somehow she is in favor because the advancement of germany japan's security council has precisely this goal, because this will be the first step. a the second step is russia's decision to adopt the right of the century , or even abolish the right of the century for all countries, because there are only two times to get up. china , too, must, of course, lose its right century. uh, definitely, because in the concept of the western concept of development of security council reform. the un of the right century no longer exists. we must clearly understand how and e. now, in my opinion, the situation around us is very interesting , because poland and the baltic countries have realized their home dream and somehow we are very strangely not reacting to this they are. uh, by banning cross-border travel. e cars with russian

license plates. they isolated kaliningrad for a second to a significant degree completely, but to a significant degree, and somehow we haven’t really reacted to this yet. as far as i know, what i mean is that they say that they are against russia losing the right to fan there, or all that, but in reality , something fundamentally different is happening. i would watch my hands, you need to watch your hands in any case. i’m still on zelensky’s initiative reacted dreams. this is one thing for them, but to support zelensky on this issue. she couldn't. uh, an interesting nuance is that most likely zelensky spoke this part of his speech when deciding russia’s plan for the century, according to uh, a manual that his grandfather wrote for him, and his grandfather is waiting for this. yes, in this sense it is a reaction. anna lena is interested in the fact that this is a washington training manual. and she’s like, uh, well, let’s play sovereignty here. well, yes, here it is again, returning to watch your hands. and about the fact that you

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case, no matter how anyone feels about the reasons for what happened, and at the moment for thousands people, this is, well, a very difficult humanitarian situation, thousands of people are in the territory where our uh, peacekeepers are located. and of course, to receive such a number of people, this base was not originally designed for this. in general, there are difficulties there. and i know for sure there are difficulties. at least with the food for these people, but i'm sure that, of course, uh, this will all be on the russian side. and it has been established since the prime minister of armenia pashinyan washed his hands of it and said that this does not concern them now. and this is our business. okay. but as they say, uh, and let's remember this too and take into account who will be there, that there was no yelling under the walls of our embassy, ​​uh, in yerevan and there is hope, we talked about this on air yesterday, there is hope that the azerbaijani authorities and really have the intention

to come to an agreement and somehow solve this problem so that it does not become uh, well, so to speak, some kind of humanitarian catastrophe , in order to escape some kind of purges, in order to escape, and some, well, in general, some kind of surge of violence, given that this problem ? well, for many decades, of course, there are many mutual claims. we need to be realistic here. i say again, there are signs that the leadership of azerbaijan at least has, uh, a plan. well, to somehow solve this problem, by the way, azerbaijan’s reaction to yesterday’s tragic events, and the events with the death of our peacekeepers, and eternal memory to ours. and to the guys, but here is today’s official reaction to azerbaijan which, uh, which is cited and uh, a telephone conversation with the president of azerbaijan, ilham aliyev, of our president, and it says that uh brought

ilham aliyev expressed deep condolences regarding this incident. and that the perpetrators will be duly punished in this regard, the prosecutor general's offices of the countries are in close contact in general, well , the fact is that the azerbaijani side. in general , he admits that it happened? what was it? well, that this was done, apparently, it was azerbaijani. i cannot yet say whether it is a provocation or not, but in any case, it is recognized. this also indicates the presence of some good will and desire to reach an agreement, just like today’s meeting, and the delegation of the armenians of nagorno-karabakh arrived in the azerbaijani city, where they met with the delegation of the republic. and azerbaijan and i imagine we discussed these issues. how complicated this discussion was, but in any case, the people who arrived there, and the people who were waiting there , shook hands with each other. this suggests that despite all the obvious difficulties. and, at

least at the level of, well, some official representatives. there is a desire to negotiate in a civilized manner in the interests of the population, but the parties interpret it differently. ahh the prospect of reaching an agreement in the near future , the azerbaijani side, through the mouths of representatives of the president of azerbaijan on special instructions , says that based on the results of the discussions. and that all this cannot be resolved in one meeting, but a peace agreement can be reached by representatives of the armenians. e nagorno-karabakh well , in general, for reasons that are clear to me, well, less optimistic, but nevertheless, they say that negotiations are actually underway. well, in this difficult situation, the most important thing is that they at least try. they say, well in this situation, i cannot help but say about the prime minister of armenia pashinyan, uh, who in this situation is concerned not with the fate of people, but with nagorno-karabakh, but with his own situation, which he created with his own hands .