[000:00:00;00] and uh, there may indeed be problems in implementing this, but you decided to suppress it yourself, as if, if you don’t suppress it, it will become even worse because i would like to kill tatyana now. yes, you can imagine continue this is reality. yes, but at the same time, with everything, but i have a desire , to kill her, one version of the feeling that i was experiencing at this moment, another option, that i sit and suppress it, i feel it, then, well, now at least. i would look inadequate. i wouldn't have any interest in your conversation, because everything i did. i would sit, accordingly, and suppress this feeling at the end of the program. i would definitely have led myself to depression. because then you would suppress this layer of nothing, what do you call it? i don't feel anything, there's nothing. this is the same state that is above this press, and under the press is your desire to make a sharp action, the desire to move away from the page,

push away. it’s just still within the framework of some everyday circumstances, yes, but i can’t do it so abruptly. i would like to, and why? and what about his everyday circumstances, let’s say, yes, there to move out, uh, and somehow separate as much as possible from his parents. this, well, requires a little more capital. e. well, that’s elementary. yes, this capital does not allow you to work. i still don’t understand why you need capital to move out of your parents’ place and rent an apartment there, well, okay, you can rent a room, you can live in life. and well , there are options, in fact there are or and often it seems that they are too expensive. this is not always the case, i don’t know how it is with you the picture of the world is arranged because, well, there i live in a dormitory at the age of 17. so, too , you can go to college on a budget with a hostel, even at 21:00.

yes, and later it is possible, that is, there are options, but you seem to see only one picture, that you are moving out of your mother’s house into a rented apartment. now, as far as i know, it is very popular to rent an apartment with, uh, somehow expand for three, as it is now, that is, you can also have a huge number of accounts or some now called publics, where people offer this. this will also be possible truth. well then, as much as possible, it doesn’t require that much money at all. it’s just that then you seem to leave there, leaving everything as it is, nothing will change there. this is the part that expects that something will change. so it depresses your responsibility, and essentially your desires. well, as if it had been clear for a very long time that nothing would change. it wo n't change. this does not mean at all that our offended part will not expect that it should change. you know, children often

there are such thoughts. now i'm going to die. and you all will pay, even it will probably change ; it’s more likely to change, if you don’t wait like that, it seems like i’m not waiting. well, at least he's an adult. mommy doll hello, i like a good lawyer to competently develop property and get custody of a child, the premiere of a multi-part film from monday on first this is a triggers podcast and with you its hosts, psychologist tatyana krasnovskaya, and we are talking with anya about how

to overcome depression at 21. who are you working for? let's say it's good as a secretary, you work as a secretary. it’s unlikely that this is your dream job , judging by the way you said, what kind of job would you like to work at at this age, because you process so much information and depressive literature that it can’t help you. in general, if you read psychological literature, it is easy to come to the conclusion that life is a complete pain. just like classical literature. so good. you would like to work as a psychologist. and now you are still working as a secretary. we wanted a browser

psychologist, apparently, you cannot work as psychologists yet. naturally. yeah, you're in absentia, in absentia, in absentia, that is. in general, do you have time for work? why aren't you working? well, in another area, i don’t know now a huge number of options. there's a very long history there. why am i even working at this job and again it’s tied to my mother? i understand that. and if you say that you don’t care about some story, you even go to work because your mother said so. obviously the job, you can definitely change and judging by the way you say, what you say, your salary is not such that it’s mom’s patronage that you hold on to for this place. but it’s obvious that you’re pre-earning x rubles. yes, exactly the same x rubles earned elsewhere will bring you more pleasure than the first one here. what you need

to deal with. i thought about this a lot last year. and i almost quit, but something went wrong. i was very scared, of course, this is normal. she's very scary. and it’s like, well, it’s logical, what’s needed take this step, because nothing will change in itself, but somehow there is a lot of fear. yeah, i understand correctly that working in this company or working somewhere there is, as it were, some kind of condition of your mother, that in this case she pays for your education. no, i will pay for everything. again, she made a lot of effort, let's say, to put me in this job. and if i plan to quit with her, uh, that means, uh. i need to quickly pack my things, and move out, and apparently i’ll have to do this, because it’s obvious that after this program

your employer will look at him and so will your mother, and it’s unlikely that you will stay to work there. now, and at the same time, with everything in this uh company, where you work, it is also impossible to make a career, but there is no psychologist. no psychologist. you can stand there as a director, for example, i’m gradually learning psychology, as if at some point the fuse with which i came there, because before that i worked there in catering in sales, let’s call it that and naturally, there, well, another fuse was. and here i kind of sat down and for several months i, well, i kind of sat here. it turned out to be very comfortable and in overall condition. well, this state didn’t even exist then. little by little , little by little, like tina, it’s clouding the house. everything is very clear, and it became depressing at work. everything is very understandable, depressing. well, look, you are slowly, little by little, as if

you are pulling this tina over you. and your young man, how is your relationship with him? in general, everything is fine. well support. just. e too because he studies. yes, there is no super-lucrative job there, there is no opportunity, but to drop everything and suddenly move out. this is probably the only area that still makes me happy, then you definitely don’t need to take antidepressants. because it will go out too, so i, well, i don’t want your depression to somehow leave an imprint on your relationship with your boyfriend. very often there is a fear that if it’s bad with me there will always be a person with whom it’s good or easy, and then what do you do when such a mass of nothing appears? usually i i’m provoking some side, of course

, that’s it. well, that is, slowly destroy the relationship. yes great. you are well done. you are doing well on all fronts. yes , look in order to grab the next branch. you need to let go of this one in order to open another door, you need to close this one, just like any metaphor. yes, but you'll have to kind of leave the whole place you're in. it's like it's squeezing you out. this is the same thing: when it’s time for a child to be born, he is faced with the fact that the mother’s entire body, which until that moment had been its shell, carrier, and feeder. there, i don't know love. yes, suddenly at one fine moment it begins to be rejected, and this is a severe trauma. for the one who is about to be born and the child at this moment goes through the most difficult paths. we will never have to go through the most difficult tests, nothing more difficult in life. if you do not believe in the afterlife

after death, the child goes through this, that is , nature has laid down that he is able to survive this emotionally and mentally. yes the baby is born in shock, because only shock allows them to do this, you will do exactly the same thing. if you are kicked out now from all these circumstances, you will be fired from your job. after our program, your mother will kick you out and you will find yourself with a knapsack, and on the street near the kazansky station, where you will need to spend one or two nights, at least in order to gather your thoughts, yes, then you will be at the pinnacle of success. take a look. tell me, lord , how did i live through it, like any person who achieves success, but there would just be a child there, who does not know that his mate will be born. but here now you understand, after all, now you seem to be immersing yourself, yes. and if you know, like, uh, that a caterpillar, it begins to hatch. for a caterpillar, pupation is death; not a single caterpillar knows that

it will be born as a butterfly; it is a full-fledged living organism that consciously goes to this death for the subsequent metamorphosis . metamorphosis is the transformation of one thing into another. if at all, in principle, you see any anya who is capable of being happy. why did i say what would happen? if you are happy tomorrow? but what if there is, at least some kind of fantasy anya who is capable of this happiness? women's happiness, professional happiness, personal happiness. yes, then in order for this to happen there, it must, how to say, pupate? this is a caterpillar, you understand, and this moment is coming, but rebirth will not happen, there will be no morphosis for me, if you do not take this step. this is a step towards growing up and 21 years old is exactly that age. i understand, but the feeling is just, like, at some point, if before i understood, that i'm real. well, i think i can do something , but now i feel like i can’t do anything at all,

that i’m nothing at all. and well, in general, i’m sitting here, no one knows how to do anything. and where will i go? and what will i do anyway? anh you live with the feeling that no one needs you and no one will pull you out of this depression, no one will come for you and save you. you can stay there, you know how it will end. how will you feel slowly slowly sergei has now painted a picture of how everything will start gradually die. you can stay there, but look ah. is it even possible to have a conversation for three with dad, and not with mom? it’s simply impossible that they don’t communicate; perhaps your conversation with your mom and yours with your dad are separate. and where you would be able to convey to them and describe to them your

condition is also impossible. they will not listen, and they will not agree to support you, for example, for a year while you live. uh, well, some life situations show that you don’t have to count on them - there are some people in your life. maybe the neighbors there may be some friends of yours who need help more than you alone . old. perhaps old in the sense of elderly or old in the sense that you have been around for a long time. you know , she needs, in your opinion, psychologically excellent. well, where you live there live some, well, women, grandmothers, old men , grandfathers, who look at least the same. i don't even know, i don't pay attention to pay attention. that's when you go to work from work. yes, look, you may see several people around you who need help more than

you. depression is also dangerous because at this moment your ego very strongly captures and holds attention to itself. i speak as the future knees and one of the elements through which we can get out of this depression, and so that you understand, uh, hippocrates treated depression with warm enemas, that is, well, so that it is clear how this was treated before yes, where did yours parents have such a knee-jerk attitude that this is all nonsense and fiction , so one of the elements that will be very useful for you now is to expand your attention and see people who need help more. what do you need? because if we look now, well, you see what the situation is like, how many people need help today because they are left homeless. without relatives there are no relatives. well, and so on. yes, if at this moment you see that they need help, and you are actually a carton of milk. you can change a lot. just in the evening, bringing a package of milk from an old woman,

then a kilo of bread and potatoes. it doesn’t matter that yes, then through this, well, you’ll somehow find for yourself, but the very thread through which you will begin to crawl out, because today it seems to us, when we fall into this depression, that i have problems, but from the point of view of a huge number of people. you're annoying with fat. how do you understand? do you have a job that is someone else's dream job? you have blood that is someone's dream home, right? you have a mother, and for those who suddenly no longer have one, this is more of a problem. what do you have ? you have a young man. you learn understand, but i absolutely. i agree with you that when we enter into this a depressive state, yes, then we will look at everything that we look at, we will see it in a depressive light and getting through it always helps a lot through helping other people. try to see it won't work. well, it costs you a lot, but you will gain meaning,

because again from the point of view of humanistic psychology, which you will go through. you will see that there are semantic crises. yes, that is, those with loss of meaning. they are precisely what introduces us to a state of depression, and where the personality begins. just about to fall asleep. to you need to wake up wake up. this requires new meaning. find people who need help more than you might think, as if this is some kind of devaluation, or something, the story in no case we understand that the truth is difficult, it is really difficult to live in this feeling of loneliness in this feeling of not being needed, but this is the idea of ​​giving, that’s why you came. this is just about that exit to the side that is worth digging. this is a triggers podcast, and we are its hosts tatyana krasnovskaya, psychologist, psychotherapist psychologist and psychotherapist, and we talk about

depression and how to overcome it. you know, i once gave it to my daughter. in my opinion. the most valuable advice, uh, that she took. i told her that if you dream of something, but for some reason it seems to you that you cannot realize this dream, well, due to lack of resources. yes, then you are always where others are realizing this dream; if you have a dream, no matter what it is, you can become a psychologist. maybe some other one? yes, try it to get as close as possible to the place where other people are implementing and to be useful to these people. you study a lot. at least it definitely helped her. i am sure that it will help you, and i will never have time to help you surrounded by you. i don’t know, tea, relatively speaking, but to be where people implement. well, i'm a cool psychologist. and cool is like a sought

-after good specialist with a lot of knowledge, but this will come with age, you must already be fifty dollars, well, either a house or an apartment dog freedom in some actions freedom in self-expression. you work nicely the specialty is cold, you conduct receptions and sometimes conduct trainings. and i have some super cool , cozy office, and i conduct mostly face-to-face sessions, which are shown on tv. yes

, of course, i still charge so much money for it. when does it show on tv? oh what are you talking about on how to get out of depression great great idea on how to get out of depression start today start journaling and writing down life hacks. how does this work for you, where there are failures, not the one, yes, if you feel like , relatively speaking, such a cool psychologist, who helps people get out of depression, then how can you help them. if you yourself have not entered into this depression. now you have consciously entered into my task, then your task is to consciously get out of it. it's like being in a dark room. if we had more time, we would have had more of a psychoanalytic session, then i would, of course, suggest that you go through your salon with your mother, whom you reject. well, you’ll figure this out during psychoanalytic sessions, when you go to a psychoanalyst. this is also part of the job. but if we say for example, about getting out of depression, then this is

what i told you, it will be for you. now these are really good steps, then you can say that you yourself came up with this, but don’t refer to me and bring people out of depression, but you will see what it works for. many years. this has been working for millennia, when there was no such thing as a depression book. you are on the first page of the title page. i think that you will write what i actually understood. why did i have this depression? i hope you can start this book today. you are right today you can write this first page asking yourself do you understand? why why? i needed this depression, if you see how many people you end up helping later, that people will republish your book in order to cope with this depression, as a special one that allows you to write books. that's it, well, really, everything worked out. look, first of all. i definitely want to recommend one book to you. although in theory you should have already encountered it.

this is viktor frankl. yes, a concentration camp psychologist. tell me life, yes, yes, i heard, but today you are starting to read, and there is a second book that will be interesting to you as a specialist. this is byron katie. work is called work. and this is just a woman who discovered herself. not being a psychologist, i found myself on the floor. clinics for depressive disorders, when they had already turned their backs on me, everyone else could no longer live with her, and this book is about how she came out of this depression. fine. thank you. tell us what you are leaving with, motivation and some kind of passion. start changing something. why be happy? let's then sum it up again, so to speak, the result is not that you me, but for change and see, who you are around you can help more than you, the first thing you need to do is to divert the focus of your attention

to yourself. start serving people with small actions, small deeds. and you will be amazed at how much there is. you can do it even if you are a believer, for example, you can just go to church every saturday to pray for other people, and this will also happen it will bring a lot of meaning to you now. 1 year, look like this, there is no point, but it doesn’t exist, if you don’t create it well and write down these steps. start, really do it. this is very useful, what you feel now i can’t describe yet. so it's ambiguous. there is such a beautiful piece of work: a vague smile. i think it's very similar, something from this series. thank you thank you. well, it was a trigger podcast, and we were with you as its hosts , psychologist and psychotherapist, tatyana krasnovskaya

and psychologist and psychotherapist. sergey on himself. u our guest was anya, a young beautiful girl with whom we talked about depression. hello dear friends, the crocodile magazine was published in 1979. such a joke, the boy approaches his long-haired father, who is carefreely strumming the guitar, and asks dad. and who will you be when you grow up, gentlemen? this resurrection group is today 45 years old lord , look how you have grown and look at yourself, dear friends. i am convinced that my generation will now come to the screens and let's remember what happened, when trees were

large group sunday and all the talk then that you were tired, lost everything, got up. and whose mine fell, that day after day , life goes in someone else’s way and your home has become lonely. and it’s empty outside your window, the light is fading and the sounds are getting wet, and there are flies and more hands, and if your pain subsides, it means there will be a new trouble.

tell me who is to blame, brother, one is married, the other is rich, one is ridiculously in love, one is a fool, the other is your enemy and whose fault is it that here and there each other. they are waiting for everyone. they live but up to the elbow and ours is tired, stuffed and warm. i'm the place the light and the muddy juice of another torment seek your hands, and if your pain subsides, then there will be new

troubles. what is the secret that there is no grief and no happiness, no,

that you are alone in life and it’s boring and dancing, and you’re still waiting for a hand, if your pain goes crazy there will be a lot.

if now some child was late to fall asleep, went to the tv, if dad, what was it this sunday, son, seventy-nine. these are the bells. it’s just that today they are number one in fashion, of course, as you probably guessed, we came to visit each other and plugged these six-pin plugs into each other's sides with a tape recorder, of course, the heat creeped in with the bets. it's clear. but sooner or later romanov’s voice began to sound. this same sea guy came and brought this sunday. now tell me why you are so visible. and as it was clear from moscow, how the group became. sunday we played. mostly at the dances they played, mostly all kinds of emu. the people were dancing, but uh, they dared uh

to play their songs and i was surprised when it turned out that the guys stopped dancing they come up to the speakers and start listening. well , first of all, alyosha sings like god. but most importantly. he also writes. that's why everything you've done for yourself is worth its weight in gold. i would say that on sunday this is a self-made group. it wasn't any producers. no one in the world has ever been a music director. these people seemed to know what to do. or maybe he knows , tell me, well, we will carry yours in our arms and so, even if you see and remain silent, but there is something new, that’s what you came up with something new for the last. that's 5 years. there is such a thing. and after a while we will show it now. another song in a minor key, which we, well, literally really like very much. just tell me who we will see today

. sergei timofeev bass guitar. well, the union we know your timofeev comrades alexey korobkov on drums yuri smolyakov on the key happiness is a fan no no, i am the ear of the group teach me to do something are numbered, my nights and days are like dreams, short loves through sleep breathing on behalf of the body. it's just a day on

the hot sand. teach me what to choose between black and white, what about someone else's goods is yours and mine is not. give me a fishing line bandit, between honor and wholeness, and tell me a high goal. teach me to live

paper wings. for what was and will be and how i will finally calm down. give me your soul in your palms with water, the reflection of a star. i don’t regret anything about my life, i’m fed up with longing, teach me again. i can't do anything. and what i have is

a shadow on the lazy fishing line. dear friends, this is an anthropology podcast on channel one, the sunday group celebrates forty-fifth anniversary before our eyes, led by alexei romanov. gosh as usual. please tell me, today you hear a hookah, how do they work? how songs are written. you see that it’s popular today, how could you compare

the mmm trend in the description of songs in the late seventies and today, dimochka i don’t dare, i don’t dare, dear, because now, uh, every teenager on an ipad can have their own normal track in a commercial sense, corrupt. yes, and the artefacts of the intellect. and here's another thing: oh yes, because of this we are gradually stopping. that is, uh it’s loaded with a number of channels on tv and suddenly you hear this terrible music, away with it later. it’s good that there’s a remote control. and as for eh? well, we were at a festival in izhevsk recently, there is an amazing team, they play the music that we understand, and the music that we don’t understand. eh, this dish with speakers is played by these ones, they

will grow up. eh, maybe he remembers what you and i are going to show people now. it's not you and me. and you probably time's up, yes, a post-covid song. yes the texts were lying pretty long. while i was wondering what the roof of the notre dame had already burned down, i began to understand the song, which was quite long and in keys that were difficult for a guitarist. yes, it doesn’t matter at all, because i’ll try it now. this means this is literally for her without a year of a week of this song for me without a week. this is the day before yesterday. i got this 10 years ago. and this song