[000:00:00;00] i would like to read a few paragraphs from the alphabet, this is a famous text and lev nikolaevich was also a great teacher who argued with his great contemporaries in this area, who believed that theoretical knowledge is harmful, that a person should be able to sign, count, navigate the world, if it is simple, this is a controversial idea, but it is what it is, and when the aggregate states of matter were explained to you and me, they said that... two have three aggregate states: water, ice, and steam, yes, that’s how tolstoy writes exactly about this , go out in winter on a quiet frosty day, field or forest, look around you, listen, there is snow everywhere, the rivers are frozen, dry grass sticks out from under the snow, the trees stand bare, nothing moves, freeze cast iron with water, it will turn to stone, put frozen

cast iron on the fire, it will become ice melt, move, the water begins to sway, gurgle, then as it begins to boil, hum, swirl, the light also comes from the heat, there is no heat, everything is dead, there is heat, everything moves and lives, little heat, little movement, more heat, more movement where the heat comes from light, warmth from the sun, the sun walks low in winter, does not rest its rays on the ground , no... nothing to move, the sun will begin to walk higher above our heads, will begin to shine close to the ground, the whole world will warm up and begin to move, and there are several themes from physics, yes, so this is not about physics, this is not about physics, this is, this is about love, this is about love, yes, but this is physics, you must admit, so alive, based on experience, you must agree, like an artist in tolstoy manifests itself, no matter how he

writes, simply about how - but still for with all these important words that tolstoy, an amazing deep thinker, the ruler of thoughts, he is still an artist, and he is a simple, ordinary person who wants to be heard by ordinary people, he is a completely complex and unusual person, he is a personality of amazing magnitude, incredible, so simple in the entire history of mankind, very little. but at the same time, in his youth he had vanity and a desire to be famous, a desire for fame, and then he somehow sought to eradicate this feeling in himself and become simpler, become simpler, yes, but at the same time he still

equally, even in such a short passage one can really see what a great artist he really is, and it’s probably no coincidence that he himself said that the alphabet is generally his main work, which for him was perhaps more important than war and peace of ianna korenina, for his personal experience, of course, already in the diaries of youth and young adults, there is this polemic with oneself, yes, that i was such and such, i will become better, i will become simpler, it seems to me that in general diaries that, well, unfortunately, people of course read less than works of fiction, this is absolutely not... where this internal self-improvement takes place, the struggle with one’s shortcomings, even with one’s own sins, and this is an incredibly important text, i would highly recommend, especially to young people, the diaries of a young fat man, you can believe in yourself when you, you read and understand that

tolstoy was not perfect either. yes, this is the accepted expression man , it seems to me that tolstoy, well, it’s just parcellence, this is the most striking object, an example, of a person who made himself, it’s wonderful that he, as he rightly says volodya, described all the steps in this direction, but from a certain moment another time began, the time of the late tolstoy , the so-called, began, yes, these are already those years when lev nikolaevich, first partially and then completely, refused to publish, at least works of art, when he writes such works , how i can’t remain silent, what is my faith, these are rather philosophical treatises, and journalistic ones, and so on and so forth, so probably, mm, a book that carries such the traditional name is confession, there

are many confessions in the history of literature, yes it is. relied on, among other things, the confession of rousseau, rousseau was generally an extremely important figure for him , starting from his early youth, that’s why this is just a conversation about the most important thing... through his personal experiences, such extreme frankness, this is the confessional openness of lev nikolaevich, too is very important for us, and this text is very strong, serious, and not artistic, at the same time, just now, it is very difficult to divide into artistic and non-fiction, tolstoy has a lot texts that, perhaps, are now not so well known to a wide audience , so we created such a project as tolstoy’s word , where we collected all of tolstoy’s texts and you can see how many literary texts, how many public works, i wonder what they read, besides the three great novels, well this is a separate statistic for study, but it just seems to me that the general reader does not imagine how much

tolstoy wrote, how many pages of his texts are devoted to philosophical, religious and philosophical issues, this is probably the largest part, there is journalism. very living, that is, to say that tolstoy, they know him primarily as the author of literary texts, but there is a huge legacy of something else , and it is attractive, it is intelligible, it is convincing, it is perfect, and chernyshevsky very correctly formulated it is not the closest person in spirit to tolstoy, purity of moral feeling, in this sense , if we return to the definition that is simple, it was important to tolstoy, here we can approach it from the other side, these simple ones were important to tolstoy human questions, of an ordinary person, are the most important, and he raised them both for

himself and for everyone else, in this sense one can consider him like that too, again parexells amazing, of course, he is not just a very complex nature, but not everyone is complex an organized nature strives to be... understandable to as many people as possible, so i tried to formulate this, that’s why smertov’s funeral became such an event, and one of those also captured in detail on , of course, this is also an amazing document eras of time and people carrying tolstoy’s coffin from kozlova zaseka station to yasnaya polyana, and these crowds of people who follow this coffin, this is, of course, an incredible film document of the era, if you think about what tolstoy’s grave looks like, then this is probably the most modest grave

in general, there is nothing on it, there is no inscription, no cross, there is nothing, a small mound, in fact, according to his plan, there shouldn’t even be a mound, it’s just that it should have sunk into the ground to be leveled with the ground, that’s already museum. such a tradition that after all somehow designate a place, like a burial, well, yes, still, too, of course, let’s now move on to modern times and how does tolstoy’s legacy live on now? volodya, let ’s start, probably, with what is happening in the clear clearing, with writers’ meetings, with this spirit that has been revived. just one of my main ideas was to make - clear glade again - such an open place, very hospitable, uh, and a place where

modern creators, including modern writers, would happily, uh, come with pleasure, and the first writers' meetings, they there were, well, i came to yasnaya polyana in 94, and already in 95 the writer, in september they gathered around tolstoy’s birthday, that is, this has practically been going on for more than a quarter of a century, right? yes, yes, it’s been 2.8 years in a row now, uh, every autumn the writers come to yasya polyana, yeah, probably we can even say that a generation has passed away of those who opened these meetings, started them, well, thank god anatoly andrevich kim lives there, with whom we somehow came up with this together, but there is no valentin yakovich, no valentin yakovichatova, there aren’t very many, but now you can just look at the photographs , well, thank god, as if, except for valentin yakolevich, all the active ones, valentin yakolevich, kurbatov, the legendary, amazingly talented, alexey

varlamov, pavel vasinsky, who became the main one in yasnaya polyana modern researcher of tolstoy's biography, vladislav otoroshenko, one of the first laureates of the esnopolyanskaya prize, igor petrovich zolotusky, our legendary critic, god of health, here is anaty andrevich kim, one of the initiators of the magazine. yasnaya polyana then awards literary clearing. yes. that is , we can say that the writers’ meetings somehow consolidated the writers’ community, in general the difficult years, during the years of strife, were not on good terms with each other. yes, many, and now a group of writers emerged who worked in different genres, who became the center of attraction.

everyone communicated and then corresponded throughout the year, maintained these contacts, a lot was done to somehow really connect people, and i think it worked, it’s very important to me that there is always there are families and children, it is very important that the children become friends there, there are two dozen of them, children of writers, communicate with each other, we talked about how yasnaya polyana has become like this again since the nineties, the mid-nineties... it’s fortunate that they grew up there our children, well, first of all, my sons, were born in yasnaya polyana, vanya and andrei, wonderful, andrei just got married, quite recently, so the mouth of the fat ones will continue here, of course, and how many descendants are there now, well living fat people, more than 300 people,

more than 300 people, here you need to understand that we are fat, if you, as it were, we do not fit formally, yes, if these are descendants, let’s assume that tatyana’s daughters are lions, they do not bear the surname fat, but for us, we say so, they are just fat, of course, they are fat, of course, that is, a whole cluster of projects has arisen, the yasnaya polyana prize is also unique, i never tire of repeating, it is unique in that it is a russian literary prize, but it has an international nomination. it seems to me that in russia and before that in the soviet union there was an amazing school of translators, in our the reader always perceived translated literature as his own, his own, well, yes, so the popularity of, i don’t know, himingway, remarque , yes, you can name dozens of names from different literatures, american, english, french, thanks to translations, became part of our culture, yeah, well then, tolstoy is such a truly worldwide figure. a popular figure, and tolstoy is translated into all

possible languages ​​of the world, and tolstoy was read by a translator, yes, tolstoy is also a translation, also a translator, of course, someone told how he is one of the greats, in my opinion, one of the nobel laureates, after all, two nobel laureates, and arhan pamuk and vargas llosa arhan pamuk and mario vargas llosa, turak and peruvian, two great modern writers, laureate of yasnaya polyana, yasnaya polyana prize, someone said that when he received a letter signed with a thick signature, i was just surprised, to put it mildly, everything was clear, yes, well, what else could there be an international nomination for which award, the tolstoyan tradition is a living tradition, yes, i i am proud that foreign writers those who received our iznakapolyan prize are very proud of it, they all talked about, literally each of them, what role

did tolstoy’s reading play in their lives? nobel prize winners, whether they are known all over the world or not, these are very bright writers, and i hope that this series will continue, last year there was a chinese author, we had a writer from chile, a lethal, in my opinion, wonderful, very interesting and such an american writer of japanese origin, ruth ozeki, became our first laureate of this award, it’s not that we’re not ashamed of one, we we’re just proud of it, let them not talk , let them read, i remind everyone who sees us, hears us, in a month you will learn new names, you will learn new names, but tolstoy, with all his desire for tradition and something familiar, he is still very ... a modernist man, yes, he, for example, loved technology

, edison gave him a phonograph in 1908, lev nikolaevich was very fascinated by it, at first he even thought that it could replace a secretary, it didn’t replace it, but nevertheless, here it is it's time to move on to new technologies, compatible whether tolstoy with what is familiar to the younger generation, here is thekla, i know everyone knows that you are the initiator, participant, inspirer of several large... well, look, i would be here, of course, the technology is wonderful, but just like in the recordings of leo’s voice nikolayevich, it is important for us not only that they exist, although we hear his voice, but what he said is quite important, as well as technology, then now it is important that they serve - some things more serious and more meaningful, but uh, of course, i think that new technologies inspired lev nikolaevich and i it seems that he would have been very supportive of, say

, the internet, because he was in favor of absolutely free and preferably free distribution. knowledge, yes, of his texts, he creates an intermediary publishing house, which, the books should be as cheap as possible, so that they can buy everything, or, for example, waives copyright, on these beautiful books of the nineties, it is written on each, reprinting is allowed free of charge, and we are inspired by this and, in general, continue the absolutely tolstoyan precepts, we are already 10 years ago, they probably posted it on the internet, here are 90 volumes of lev nikolaevitch, they were scanned, but the pictures are difficult to read , then with the help of volunteers, the main thing is that the volunteers who competed, no matter how many, no, we were interested, we had a plan for several months there, everything was done in 10 days, all plans

went to hell, because, because people with such joy from many countries, of course, russian-speaking people, helped us proofread tolstoy, so that these texts in when we they were asked, what made you dozens and take dozens of pages, help more and more, they say: of course, what is written by lev nikolaevich, this project, yes, this project is living pages that we create, and this is the same way, we do not add anything, here there is no interpretation of literature-knowledge, but here there is help for the younger generation, well, somehow to enter, some entry scenarios, new navigation scenarios and , for example, on war and peace, yes, you know, well, there, let’s say, table of contents , war and peace, when we noted which scenes were war and which were peaceful, well, we already got something like this infographics, yes, and if we talk about the reading project, which we did several , we started with anna karenina, but here

you understand, again, it’s not about technology, these technologies are why we came up with all this, because they make us understand, that unites us. not only borders or language, we are united by culture, and at the same time, for me, this is the idea that literature is for everyone, every person can read, and it will find a response in his soul, it seems to me that lev nikolaevich is such a unification , i would be glad because it unification in the name of something good, this is what he was talking about, that if good people united, then a lot of things could be done, well, we are taking some modest steps, and of course, this is important for young people , because, well, if people have already grown up with a gadget in their hand, please, a thick one can also be in a gadget, why not, of course, we know that for the bicentenary of lev nikolayevich very serious measures will be taken at the state level, there is a decree of the president of the russian federation about it,

a lot will be restored, restored, and so on and so forth, but now i would really like everyone who hears and sees us now to listen, not even to tolstoy, but to themselves, and discover those feelings in themselves , those emotions and most importantly, those questions that lev nikolaevich tolstoy raised, and which are still relevant for us, i sincerely thank vladimir tolstoy, syokla tolstoy, well, in conclusion, as always, i urge everyone who sees us to hear , read

with pleasure. out of boredom i was resurrected, resurrected, serbianochka i danced, oh, i danced, and next to me was a priest in a lamp, and next to a priest in a lamp, next to a priest in a lamp, he saved me from my sins, don’t betray, didn’t betray, don’t kill, didn’t kill, don’t be sorry, i’ll give you my last shirt, don’t steal,

and here i gave, here i am... i’m more in the camps, in the camps, i live like a monk, like a monk, without sin, i’m like mary, without sin, i’m like mary, without sin, i’m like mary, for free dad went to hell, don’t betray, don’t betray, don’t kill , don’t kill, don’t be sorry, i’ll give you my last shirt, don’t steal, but here i gave, here i gave, here i gave, here here i gave, in nature, a blunder, but before we had stagnation, there was stagnation , and i was small, single, single, 10 commandments are many, 10 commandments are many, 10 commandments are many, but i’m not a saint, dad, don’t betray, don’t betrayed, don’t kill, don’t kill, don’t be sorry, i’ll give

you my last rupa, don’t steal, here i gave, here i gave, here i gave, here i gave, in kind a blunder. i, oh yes i, oh yes you , keep the nine commandments without lies, without lies, and the tenth, and the tenth is not a whim, and the tenth is not a whim, but the tenth is not a whim, although my profession is not betray, don’t betray, don’t kill, didn’t kill , don’t be sorry, i’ll give you the last ore, don’t steal.

and here i gave, here i gave, here i gave, here i gave, in kind of a miss , hello, this is a podcast 20 years later and it... this year we celebrate the anniversary of a wonderful poet, a song by mikhail isaevich tanich, a huge century the number of hits is written from the black cat around the corner to the white swan on the pond. we will talk about the black and white stripes in the life of mikhail tanich with people who knew him well, who were friends with him. we have him visiting

beloved children. ilya efimov - vocals, alexander sokolov, vocals, maxim porshin, vocals, veniamin smirnov, choreographer, konstantin radionov, musical director , keyboards, vocals, hello guys, hello, i understand that not everyone personally knew mikhail isaevich , but we have a person who was friends with him, personally, knew him and knows a lot. stories about mikhail tanich - this is exactly veniamin, absolutely right, with his listeners, mikhail isaevich spoke on behalf of different characters, for example, a volunteer rescuer with komarov’s hit in performed by igor sklyar, or a young lady disillusioned in love with the song knots, this is of course alena apina, and in secret to the whole world, i will say that what impressed me most was that mikhailich could talk completely calmly with anyone... when he

was already 70 practically years, he suddenly switches, and he organizes the group lesoval, which later becomes his most favorite brainchild, and of course, this one i ’ll buy you a house hit, he was in demand everywhere, in all restaurants, he was asked to sing on... who sang him who could not, until now they sing, naturally, this is a gorgeous song, this song was dedicated to the muse, lida nikolaevna kozlova, all the best, all the best songs were dedicated, naturally, to the second half, wonderful, we record every word of veniamin, because this is an eyewitness, thanks for the details, we are waiting for them , this is so, this is a line in the history of russian music, pop , chansons, whatever you can call it, although to me... the russian worldview we and you as your own style - you yourself characterize these are soulful songs, soulful songs, but it seems to me

that lisapov is generally an established style, but it’s a separate one. do you remember they discussed with you that even before such chanson songs appeared , there was a logging site, which people immediately associate with a logging site, such as it is, i would like to add, once on one of the programs they described our style, this is courtyard romance, we have a recording of the first concert, when mikhail isaevich represents the lesa poval group, yeah. this year i wrote a song cycle that was unexpected for me, a song cycle, which are called songs of a former child, that is, the hero of these songs is a thief, in this case a pickpocket, an unexpected, of course, hero for songs, but the more unexpected, i think, the better. what kind of songs are these?

these are satirical songs, social songs, but in general, since the hero is a former thief, these are songs for now... he sings in one song: i swung a bow and a shovel, and built this chaos with you, but i’m not guilty before you, i have already served time for everything i took, mikhail isaevich, i was in prison for 6 years for nothing, unfairly, he was imprisoned under article fifty-eight, a political article, it was a denunciation, well, yes, it was a denunciation. here was a conversation, a casual conversation, and friends friends were standing talking, so someone took it, then by the way, what did he say, well, he spoke positively about the device since it reached berlin in germany, he seemed to mention even the company was like that and still is it is known that

their radios are also better after a decade. he met this man who informed on him, so he has him asked, almost on his knees, asked for forgiveness, but mikhail saevich did not forgive, he never forgave betrayal, betrayal, deception, he was a very, uh, well , principled person in this, principled, but his character, as you think, mikhail usavich was very worried before he came out and presented his brainchild, still tremblingly, despite his life experience and his fame, because we were not allowed on stage, or on radio, or on television, and then mikhail isaevich, i i even remember these shots when they gave him the air and he said this, please, dear producers, directors, move a little further and give us a niche, this group will

perform under the name lesopoval, and that’s about how we fought our way through at the same time, there was no such thing as chanson as such. was the founder of the creation of the lisapoval group, this part of creativity, this romance , this layer, it could be associated with mikhail isavich ’s worst memories, nevertheless , as far as i understand, the creation of lisapoval, his favorite brainchild, is still a bright band in his life, himself... the creation in general, existence, this is such a kind of outlet, he probably said, well, these are also, you know, the most beloved children, the most suffered, the most suffered, that is, how much, how much he lived his life, and blood i lost my own, one might say, in order to later create this group, and it was created, it ’s like childbirth, too, everything wasn’t born right away, like

he came, the group was born in pain, in pain, and in pain he gave birth... to him first it was, i suppose, well, that’s how i felt, a little ashamed, in general for this, well, imagine yes, sitting in prison, you have a lot of poems on this topic, it’s difficult, it was a decision, yes, but at the same time, and you are a creative and subtle person, with a soul, and you need to make it public, that is , what you were already in prison for it would be a revelation, it would be a shame. like a little bit yes, they don’t let you into some cities there, you have a lot of things closed, you’re already like some kind of renegade, but at the same time you have a lot of spiritual, subtle material that you felt, that’s all to step over this and open up - this is a very big, this is a very big step, secretly, i think, in principle, this is all confirmed by the information that a woman still plays a big role in the life of a man in general, oh yes, yes, that’s why lidia

nikolaevna, as far as i know, well, according to my information, about 10 years. just constantly like that at one point she beat him so that he would somehow start showing these songs to people, yes, yes, because i think she was proving to him that these songs. well, friendship is also friendship with the first soloist, we know that with sergei korzhukov, mikhailasavich had a very close friendship, cooperation, because sergei wrote music, and sang, and it was the hardest, as i understand it, just the moment when sergei passed away, mikhailach naturally gave up. but what inspired him to decide to continue the poval forest project? when

seryozha korzhukov passed away, letters began to arrive from all over the world: do not close this project under any circumstances , i lied, and from those people who were imprisoned, they began to receive half-joking, and maybe even serious threats if you close project, but you will have to part with life, so to speak, but in fact, mikhail isaevich, he could not finish this project , since he had just started talking and broadcasting about it, that’s why, a casting was organized, so to speak, a lot of guys began to come, and they came , we chose new soloists, and the work continued, but we carried the memory of 'here at every concert, and to this day, too, we always mention mikhail sayvich, and seryozha korozhukov and all

the guys who worked and left the group untimely, now i want to listen to yours performance, as paradoxical as it may sound, of something that mikhail tanich did not write for the povala forest, i mean the legendary song. the black cat, of course, lived, yes, there was a black cat around the corner and the whole house hated the cat, but the song is not at all about how people didn’t get along with the cat, it would be unlucky if a black cat crossed the road, but for now it’s the other way around, only

a black cat is unlucky, even with his cat a mile away, a cat had to meet, but the song is not at all about how a purry-loving cat, they say, will be unlucky if a black cat gets on the way will pass, but for now, on the contrary, only a black cat is unlucky, this cat, from ears to tail, was blacker than black itself. and the song in general is about how

offensive it is to be a black cat, they say you won’t be lucky if a black cat crosses your path, but for now, on the contrary, only a black cat is unlucky, only a black one... a cat is unlucky, only a black cat is not lucky, in every fairy tale there is a wedding, and you and i will play a wedding, only in the old fashioned way, our task is not just to show the tradition, it is important for us that it blossoms in the new world, to me all the time i was afraid that my wedding would take place... with garters and a fight you are now rubbing the path of the young people and you need to chop

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