[000:00:00;00] in another city or in another house, i like it at home, i thought everything would be simple, not this or yes, these are not suitable, those are better, but what if i’m wrong, and what does he know about your situation, nothing, it’s a bug, michael , dead beetle, he can’t move anymore, make it so that he can, and what should i tell him, that i will go to heaven, sit next to the lord, james. northern, i always thought i knew him, but do i really, truly, you know, enough, it's not weakness, my angel, it's love, in the movie one on one on friday, on the first, it's podcast 20 years later, our guest today

is the legendary group lesa poval, who is it now? commands in the team, lady nikolaevna commands, that’s it, there are no more questions, no questions, ilya, and when you came to the team, fame had already fallen on you, how did you cope? in principle, our life is diverse and beautiful enough to find some reason for joy and happiness every day, regardless of whether it ’s a filming day or an ordinary day where you ’re walking somewhere in your home. yard or near the house and therefore i every event, what is happening in my life, i try to take it calmly, but regarding the burden of popularity with which i came, i would not say that i had such a large burden of popularity, or somehow i, well, you already came to a super popular group , i can tell you how it was in general, i have a lot of experience behind me, in general, performances and stages, starting there from a restaurant in karaoke , ending there with some kind of municipal wonderful life school, and some kind of

competitions, everything. well, such a big television shoot, it was all honest at first speaking to my own shame, i could say i ran away from chanson all my life, you can say because in the restaurant a swan sang it like that, also sang there 17 times in a row in an evening, it’s clear that i could have been ready, and in the end, then lidya nikolaevna lipoval called there, i think lisa paval again chanson later, but when i started learning the song material, i didn’t even know at all, when i worked in a restaurant, that the white swan was a forest to my shame, i had a white swan de minior, the backing track was written, here i am the white swan seed, excellent, then, when i started learning songs, each song, as if you approach it, yes, you try to put in as much as possible all your soul and soul in order to perform it well, yes , tanich has such poems and songs that

when you start learning a song. you start singing it, at some point there’s a lump in my throat, and technically i can’t reproduce it further until i rethink my life here, in this place, rethink it, walk around, cry, maybe there’s something else there, then i can already sing this song, that is, the words are so sincere that are with you they tell you, you understand that tanich’s songs are like programs that are very useful for the human soul, what are your favorite songs in your repertoire? lyrical, well, generally different, to be honest, at one time i really liked the branch of mimosa, there are words there, and for us, inveterate and experienced, we felt warmth from the fact that there is everything in this world, love, nothing else, but for me, from time to time, different songs , i really like the prayer, it’s also good, a letter to the mother, you get different songs in turn, you sing on stage, and

you understand what the story is, we succeed completely different images, people who come to our concert , they seem to read it, we are completely different, like a performance, it turns out, yes, in fact, yes , a theatrical performance, and today the lyrics will be performed by you, well, of course, so exactly, let's listen to a lyrical song about love in a podcast 20 years later, performed by the group lesa poval,

the song is called, don't slam the door. when it turns out that there is no love, and it will become clear from the floor. go away, we’ll all say goodbye, and there’s no need to inform the world about this, no slam the door, nothing will change, don’t slam the door, explain nothing, don’t slam the door, go away and remember evil, in the name of the love that was, is it easy for me to tell you,

go away, when all life is in loss, loss, and every right and there is no one to blame, but our conversations are a passage, don’t slam the door, nothing will change , don’t slam the door, nothing can be explained, don’t slam the door, leave without remembering the evil, in the name of the love that was, don’t slam the door, nothing will be washed away , and slam

the door, nothing can be explained, don’t slam the door, leave without remembering evil, in the name of that love. which was. sasha, you were auditioned as a soloist by mikhail isaevich tainich himself, the story is long-standing, it was just in 1995, when the tragedy happened with sergei korzhukov, some time passed and they began to choose a soloist, but i was a complete newcomer. and i auditioned everywhere i could, so it dawned on me that the auditionee was a licker, my mother was very fond of licking, so i came completely brazenly at the age of 15, thin, white, i had it, that is, myself

molletka, sang, i'll buy you a house, me they said, well, that’s how it is, there are men there with me, what are you going to do there anyway, that’s all, actually, that’s where it all ended, until when? we came together in the seventeenth, eighteenth, maxim, how did you end up in the logging camp? an acquaintance called and asked if i wanted to audition for logging, i don’t know why this happened, what were you doing at that time? i worked in the metro, and what , in the track service, i worked at night and decided that it was during this period, well, before that, i served in a military ensemble, left there, worked in the metro. and decided that during this period i i’ll finally improve my vocals, these classes, i’ll take a certain course there, which i noted for myself, and somewhere in the middle it all was interrupted, a friend called and said, would you like to audition, when i said that i

want to try, we we called veniaminn, he coordinated me, and he explained to me how to record songs, how to perform all this in order to show? nikolaevna, at that moment, because it seemed to me that i could sing after the military ensemble, that’s all, in the military ensemble was someone, drinking a solo as a soloist, well, it’s clear, of course, so, so i recorded several dem records, sent them to vienna, he said that it wouldn’t work, try like this, try like that, but i didn’t even know who he was is, then in the team, i, i just, they just gave me contacts , they said, here’s a person, yes, yes, in the end, through the director , these videos reached lida nikolaevna, and about a week later i was already there in my homeland in mordovia, the director called me and said that

lida nikholaevna wants to audition you, yeah, i i sang to her, uh-huh, she, i just remember, she shook her head like that , here, she says, no one needs your vocals, there’s no need to sing here, you sang with your voice, you should have had it with your soul, i sang with your voice, you should have had it with your heart and thought , that on the recordings i... now it’s easy so by age i was by that time what i was 27 probably or 26 then she said: i have all the soloists, uh-huh, i don’t know, she says why am i auditioning you, i have a full lineup. what have you come for? yes, but he says, if you want to practice singing, i’ll practice with you, because i see in you something with what you can work with, we’ll get it out of you, if you have the desire, i know who nikolaevna is, she said, of course , we’ll do it, she says, if you want, you can come, that’s how long this training lasted, preparation for a year, a year the guy didn’t know about me at all, no one at all except venya. and lida nikolaevna then said that until

you are completely ready, brought to this level, like each of the group, i will not introduce you to the guys, only when i feel that you can be shown introduce him so that no one in the team has any questions, that here something needs to be tightened up, something else , that day has come, that day has come, i come to rehearsals, and there he is, so who are you? so what? no, it was a concert, it was a concert in yes, we went in the winter, when there was no road, then i met everyone, guys, how you were received as a young person then, it was immediately normal, normal, that because the person was preparing, the team, a good guy, human qualities are of no small importance, that is, as in any team, especially in a creative one, of course, each team has its own crown, what do you think, what kind of crown does a logging company have, what do you think?

swan, well, of course, of course, this is indisputable, i didn’t doubt this answer, well, then a white swan, on a pond, i’ll buy you a house by a pond in the moscow region, and i’ll bring you to this own house, i’ll have pigeons, with you , with love, we will plant at

the siren. under the window i will have pigeons with you with love we will plant lilacs under the window, and a white swan on the pond, shaking a fallen star, on that pond, where i will lead you, but for now nikola, there is no yard or garden so that i can lead you by the hand, we’ll guess with you yourself, i don’t

need it, our five numbers, out of six, we’ll guess with you, i don’t need it myself, our five numbers, out of six, the white swan on the pond, shakes the fallen star, on the rod where i will lead you, we have little chance, but the man, the drummer, who casts the spell, controls, lato,

told me the intention, if he is not a deceiver , on which we will get a house, the intention told me, if he is not a deceiver, he shakes a fallen star, on that brood where you i will bring you, and a white swan is on the pond, rocking

a fallen star, on that pond where i will lead you. on the pond where i will lead you, we are on the air again, this is a podcast 20 years later , and today we are celebrating the centenary of mikhail tanich, our guest is the group “les and poval”, let’s ask konstantin, he so solemnly holds a long pause, which... can only be endured by a serious professional, like a music director, say, absolute obedience in terms of music, because well, these are different instruments, different levels of training every musician, you are a maestro, it’s easy to lead the guys, anything can happen, anything can happen, and how interesting it can be, it’s just that some

songs need to really be told, like yeah, that is, the acting should somehow not be sung, but narrated. less, less penalties, more soul, after the passing of the poet mikhail tanich, you are doing something new, well, mikhail isavich put a lot on the legacy and a lot of poems that are not written, which have not yet been used, and every year an album is released, and who writes the music? music, in principle, the lisapovs are such an interesting phenomenon in general, so to speak, on the russian stage, yeah, that the poems are by mikhail tanich, yes, and the music is by different composers, different. each composer has his own taste, style, well, all our famous composers, there is dobronravov , alexander, igor slutsky, konstantin miin, ilya dukhovny, oscar feltsman, nikita bogoslovsky, there is such a list, such a list, yes, that’s the point thing, the list is not shabby, yes,

people, that’s why lisopoval, he seems so all different, multi-colored, today we we talked about black and white stripes, the life of the great songwriter mikhail isaevch tanich, and we talked with the guys who are directly related to him, this is his favorite brainchild, the group lisa paval, was on the podcast today 20 years later, and we thank the guys for the fact that they came, we remember with warmth , with kindness with great gratitude, mikhail isaevich and all his legacy that remained with us, this is very cool, and now we will listen to the performance of the group les and poval, again not typical for them a song, a song from the movie big

break, black and white. someone is waiting, who will guess, different happiness happens there, often simple, it seems absurd, black to white, white, black, often simple, seems absurd, black to white, white, black, we choose, we are chosen, as is often the case doesn’t... coincide, i follow you, follow the shadow, i get used to the discrepancy, i follow you as the shadow, i get used to the discrepancy

, happiness is such a difficult thing, sometimes farsighted, sometimes shortsighted, often simple, seems absurd, black, often the simple seems absurd black white white black black white white black.

hello, this is a psyche podcast and we continue to unravel the complex tangles of human lives, we do it carefully, carefully, so that our heroes and those who recognize, perhaps, themselves, see their situation reflected in the fate of our hero, find some a way out, or at least looked, perhaps from a different angle, at the situation that worries, bothers and prevents you from being happy. ours: today's expert, clinical psychologist, candidate of psychological sciences, artur timofeev, everyone hello, our hero milena , she was left alone with two children, her personal life is not developing the way milena would like, but milena herself will probably tell us everything, hello, hello, what did you come with? i am looking for a potential husband and now i go on dates and meet men. and i have the following question: at what stage should i introduce

this person to my children, how to understand that it’s worth introducing this person at all, will we have a continuation, and, in fact, how to introduce this person to children so that not to traumatize their psyche, not to give them any unnecessary hopes that this person will stay in our lives for a long time, because we already had a certain bad experience and we would like now not to step on the same rake and do everything. milin, when you talk about a bad experience, do you mean your husband, the father of these children, or do you mean those men who came after? both, well, it turns out that my marriage ended in divorce, unfortunately, and... and we don’t maintain a relationship with the children’s father,

respectively, men, and even dads in our there is no life, but it so happened that literally a few days before giving birth, higher powers , i don’t know what else to call it, sent me a wonderful man who for 3 years in our lives became, well, literally my man, my father children. that is, he, so, milena, let’s do this, you divorced your husband, well, actually separated when you were pregnant with your second child, yes, it turns out that this man who came into your life, he essentially accepted this second child, yes, that is, he accepted both children, that is, you lived together, we did not live together , that is, the person was from another country, and we met, that is, well, we had a full-fledged relationship, albeit at a distance, but he came, that is, his children know us, yes , he came to us, we came to him, we spent time together, what happened, why

did such a wonderful relationship end? well, unfortunately, something happened in the world, that the force majeure circumstances that separated us, probably the pandemic, you mean yes, i mean these exact circumstances, and for some time we still had hope that we would get together, but given that it had already been a long-distance relationship for 3 years, well, at some point i just couldn’t stand it psychologically and was the initiator, was the initiator, offered to let go of this situation , well, in general, we discussed it together and said yes, because we didn’t find a solution on how to be together, so if i asked you who you are looking for first of all, are you looking for yourself friend, lover? man, are you looking for a husband, as you know, social

status and some kind of support point, or are you looking for dad to your children, i understand that, of course, in an ideal world we want the first, second, third computer, but for you now what is the main task, that is the motivation, indeed, yes, in my ideal world, i am looking for, first of all a close person with whom i personally will have a good... close relationship, i am a young woman, i am interested in this person being a romantic, love partner, and on this basis, if everything goes well, then i generally wanted i wish i could get married and legitimize this relationship, specifically the goals, what’s it like status, i need a husband now, i don’t have one, because i was already married, this status, it doesn’t give anything if... there is no mutual understanding, respect, love within the family, within the relationship,

your photos with children are very cool , thank you, you are just such friends. yes, by the way, this is this photo shoot for us, just a man, this is the love that was after marriage, this is what he did, milena, please tell me, when did you break up with the man, yes, when the relationship was at a distance , the pandemic happened, how did the children perceive it, well, let’s start because the eldest son, he is older, he still remembered his dad, they still had... moments of such a pleasant childhood, yes, that is, the child remembers his dad and he was bored, asked where he was, what he was doing, and when there was a new man, yes, that is, he, roughly speaking, he replaced yes, completely this one, and how old was he, at the beginning he was about 4.5 years old, and well, it so happened that i was even on the first date came with the baby, and that is, and then somehow all of our dates, in general, were almost at

the beginning, while the baby was little, happened. all together, but accordingly, i didn’t even, well, there was no option not to introduce them, and somehow everything went on by itself and went on for these 3 wonderful years, and then, in fact, i just have the question: that i didn’t know what to tell the children, how to explain to them that there was a situation in the world , that something had gone wrong, that we were adults here , and it seemed like we couldn’t get along, that is , it was a shock for me, and for children, i still have this... question, what, what should i say in such a situation, because invent fairy tales, but what was said, well, i said that it so happened that airplanes no longer fly from one country to another, that we live in one country, and a person lives in another, and accordingly, well, we all flew together

, and now airplanes don’t fly, and we can’t see each other, how much it will... will be , mom doesn’t know and how the other person on the other side doesn’t know either, so for now we live the way we live, yeah, and like a son did you understand this information? in fact, he seemed to understand, but from time to time, of course, he comes to me approached with the question, what and when will we see each other, well, as it were, when everything will work out , that is, well, there were no direct strong questions, but the children were already... they were used to it, they expected that the person was there, that it will happen, it turns out that at some point, when we had already resolved this issue, i realized that it was for an indefinite period and that we needed to prepare the children for something else, and i said that this happens in the sun, that well dads and close people, we

can’t see them, and what i said is that dad is the person with whom you educates and raises, who is with you, and that we will find a new dad , well, milena promised that she made a promise, it turns out, but i sincerely and myself kind of wanted this, well, arthur, well, what’s done is done, yes already, as i understand it, you need to avoid making such promises to children and it’s like the story about santa claus, hold out until the last moment, as long as you believe, well, it’s better not like this, not like that, uh, there are some ages at which children really won’t be able to perceive information normally, in general, most often they don’t even ask questions, these are ages, usually up to 5 years, but up to 5 years, all the questions are from

children, they are very childish and because their cognitive apparatus is very childish. therefore, the answer that we cannot see dad there, or even a man, because he cannot fly, is a completely understandable answer, from about 5 years old, there from 5 and a half, maybe from six, vary slightly, but these frameworks, depending on the child himself, the child will already ask more targeted questions, he will be curious, so any... information that goes to a child, associated either with promises, or with stories of something unrealistic, and the child remembers, in general, he will somehow react to it, and we become hostages of these, by accident or intentionally yes, even if the child himself did not remember it, this can also happen, these are children, well

, we remember, i have a feeling that we... to such a social stereotype we continue to associate the happiness of our children with a full family again in an ideal world this is how it should be, but the world is not... it’s different now it might have seemed to me, mylene, you will refute it, but it seemed to me that for you, your family happiness is connected, well, practically with the obligatory presence of a man and the children’s father in the house? it turns out that everything that happened to me, yes, how many points out of ten? eight out of ten , it’s still important for me that we have a complete family and a man. in ours, what if this doesn’t happen? well, this is not such a, you know, managerial task, no matter what , you need to find a lamp like this for the children’s room, or a nail like this, if it’s not

will happen, i will accept it and will continue my life, continue to study, and realize myself, help children grow, i will still go on dates and even according to the theory of probability. someday you have to meet a person, how much time do you give yourself for this? i have my whole life ahead of me, i won’t limit myself in this, you were recommended to me, you helped a lot, my friends, excuse me, but who are you? i'm your wife's lawyer, lawyer? funny, we have a new business, they say you never lose, is that true? maybe you're a good lawyer, but you're not a good lawyer, you decided to reach the end, know, sasha will live with me, something was wrong, but

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you write to me, with a spring ray, on a white wall, the premiere of the season, sing the star from october 8. on sundays on the first. this is a psychic podcast, my name is natalya loseveva, i am a journalist, with me in the studio is an expert, clinical psychologist, psychological science arthur timofeev, our hero milena. arthur, i don’t even know, now i’ll ask you as a man or as a psychologist. let's ask in one bottle. what is the correct strategy and tactics for a woman who remains young and beautiful? a woman who is left with two children, and still wants her happiness to be like this, well, as we know from books and good

films with a man with children. i don't like. it’s still important here, but what does milena herself want, if she really sees her family as complete, yes, when there is a man next to her, yes, and for the children he becomes, perhaps , a foster father, yes, well, or in in some way, then why not, yes, this is her picture, she is so comfortable, she wants it so much, if not for my positive experience with the last man i would be, i would probably i just thought that this doesn’t happen, but when this happened in my life, i just don’t want to give it up now, and i understand that this happens, probably this hope, she’ll just be in me for the rest of my life, i even have hope that this person and i can one day, because now let’s talk about it, 3 years ago you broke up, i understand correctly, right?

approximately, what is more important here is when the decision was made, not when you were unable to see each other, but when it was made, the decision was it was decided that my daughter was about 3 years old, so now i measure everything with my daughter, this was a decision formally on your initiative, was it made? well, we approached this together, that is, we talked and we discussed options and did not find options that would. what, how to live together, that is, he didn’t want to come here, you didn’t want to go there, he couldn’t, that is , there was no question whether we wanted, there was a question that he couldn’t, and i couldn’t, the solution , which could possibly have saved us, unfortunately, it was not possible at that moment, therefore, how long can a relationship last at all, at such a distance, relationships are a very dynamic thing, they seem

to freeze, that is, a person develops himself somewhere there, and you yourself develop here, and when you are there in a couple of years meet, for example, you may understand that you have nothing to say , wait, well, we live in the digital age, yes, now you can speak with your voice for an infinite amount of time, literally online, turn it on speakerphone and spend the whole evening together, video, yes, you can , i agree, i absolutely agree, but this is not at all the same thing as living together on the same territory, what do you mean that there is no one to tell, dear, today you wash the dishes, well, i, of course, i’m not taking the most important intimate sphere , but nevertheless, that is, emotional contact without physical coexistence cannot be maintained for a long time, you want to say, it can, but it is much more difficult, there are always risks that, after all, when people... are together, they are under each other

friends are adjusted, yes, relationships are a dynamic thing, it develops, develops, because both each person in a couple changes, as well as the relationship within the couple, and when such a break occurs, despite the fact that yes, you can communicate there via video link, nevertheless, it’s still the same, the lack of living together, the lack of opportunity to constantly be with each other contact. create - well, some obstacles and the risks of a breakup increase, well , plus we know that physical intimacy is very often such an anti-crisis method, and many marital conflicts, quarrels, moods, they are hidden due to the fact that there is this part of your life, accordingly, i would not, but again, be super categorical to say that no long-distance relationships always end badly there.