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tv   Bolshaya igra  1TV  September 27, 2023 11:00pm-12:01am MSK

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fierce fighting continues in ukraine, but it appears that everyone, including the ukrainian government, is beginning to accept that the so-called counteroffensive has failed. yesterday i had an interesting call from the united states, one famous journalist, and the question was not asked. i did not have a good answer to this question, because it probably also depends on how it will be lost, but the very fact that such a question begins to wonder, as they say, to speak for myself, where i haven’t heard good news yet, this is relative nagorno-karabakh.
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and where the evacuation continues in order to avoid a humanitarian catastrophe, this is very positive, but in general, it is clear that this situation , i don’t know how it ended for the international world, this is definitely, to some extent, a challenge to russia, although it doesn’t seem to me as serious as some people think, but i think we will all agree that for the armenians of nagorno-karabakh... this is a tragedy, and this must be recognized, and the human element is very important here when discussing what to do next , finally, as for the united states, i i don’t understand anything anymore what’s happening in the united states, but if you don’t understand , i don’t understand, well, what can i do, that was yesterday, the day before yesterday it was said.
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that he is against discussing arms supplies to ukraine now, yesterday he said that no, he will discuss, because there are more important issues, like the integrity of the entire budget, and he does not want to waste his time and political capital, that’s for in order to deal specifically with ukrainian supplies, today he said: that he is going to deal with it, because it is necessary and so right, well, uh, at least it’s not very clear to me, probably , this is just one of those situations when you need to see what will happen tomorrow and the day after tomorrow, well, today there will be - republican debates without trump, but that’s it- these debates will somehow show us whether some... serious rival for
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the former president is emerging in the republican race, but it doesn’t look that way yet, and finally, well, finally, another persecution of trump, and something very similar in measures that are used against trump, and measures that are used against russia, in trump's case, the administrative judge made the decision. a judge, not a jury, one judge, without even trump being there and able to defend his interests, and so they decided that trump inflated the value of his property in new york, that this seemed to help him get large loans, on this basis, this judge decided that everything could be frozen...
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trump's real estate assets in new york include the tower, here's a freeze, a movement is intensifying in america, we'll talk about this a little later, in order not just to freeze russian assets, but to transfer these assets to beloved ukraine, again without trial, without opportunity, russia presented its arguments, and in general you are talking about multi-billion dollar property, which russia was initially told that, well, this is of course for blow to you, but we have the right to do so, because there is a military conflict, and during this military conflict, these assets cannot be used by russia, it is difficult to agree
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that it will be impossible to take them away, unless there is such a russian victory, which will allow russia to use all ukrainian property, but this will not be a decision of the new york court, but will be determined in a completely different way and in completely different places, but for now we are where we are in relation to the battles in ukraine, please ruslan pukhov, presenter...military expert, give us your assessment , are there any new trends, something that you think needs to be special, outlined for our audience, well, you know, the situation has not changed much over the past few days or even weeks, but out of annoyance it is necessary
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to say that we had to stop our offensive in the kupinsky direction, but because a significant part was transferred to help our... troops on the zaporozhye front. over the past 10 days, the ukrainian offensive has stalled because russian troops have attacked the flank of this salient, which the ukrainians managed to win. one gets the impression that the ukrainians are trying to start attacking again, but we already understand perfectly well that strategically they have lost and this round is ours. here... if they are trying to attack, why can we be sure that this round is ours? well, this round is ours, no matter how many more square meters or even kilometers they threaten us, this will not change the situation, strategically, and hypothetically it can
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improve the tactical situation of the ukrainians before the next offensive, if they are able to organize it next year , i will say more, this is the discussion that has now unfolded in the west, and a number of observers in russia perceived this as a decrease in support for ukraine. actually it's of course not. the west continues to show determination to support ukraine, but they are confused whether to support it in this year's scenario , preparing it for the next offensive, or supporting it, preparing it for static defense for the next few years, in fact, this is what the meeting in ramstein fifteenth, where they actually discussed what kind of weapons ukraine needs at this stage so that they can somehow continue to operate at least at
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the level at which they are operating now, came to the generally obvious conclusion that shells are needed, that we still need to supply them with significant quantities of intelligence data, and of course we need to supply them with f16 aircraft so that they can not only try to challenge our air superiority, but with the help of long-range high-precision weapons, strike deep into our territory, during our last discussion we talked about the taurus and scholz missiles, and your forecast was completely confirmed, apparently, the germans are silent and scholz is holding up, he wants him not to be the first, so that the americans would be the first to loudly declare that they are supplying long-range missiles, tactical attacks, cluster missiles, and he seems to be walking like a train, in general, these missiles were already promised in principle, they were promised, but this was not
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announced publicly, that is, you know this from the category, remember, the russian classic griboyedov has no problem with sin, rumor is not good, yes, so at the moment the west seems to be thinking how, how, it is necessary to support ukraine, with what weapons, so that it can continue to provide us resistance, well we we play our game, not ours, we see that the weather is quite warm for autumn, the active phase of hostilities can continue for a few more weeks, three, four, maybe five, but it’s unlikely that it’s possible to achieve in this short time any turning point, so i insist on my thesis that this round is ours, i just wanted to ask you to develop it, you did it very successfully. taures, uh, the woll street journal writes today that all partners in the coalition, the current german
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ruling coalition, approved the provision of taures, which scholz, as you correctly said, is not ready yet, but he is not ready, again , as you correctly said, not because he is against it in principle, but wants the americans to do something done. initially, in addition, he is concerned that ukrainian military technicians will not be able to cope with these missiles in the near future... then he will have to send german technicians there, firstly, further escalation, and secondly, scholz says that this requires a special decision of parliament, however, if this happens, how will it affect your assessment of the military situation, because these missiles are specifically designed to destroy tunnels, to destroy ships, to destroy warehouses that... are underground and so on?
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you know, in addition to the fact that this missile is very long-range, yes, and it is launched, so to speak, not into the void, but based on the results of providing the western intelligence communities with accurate information, before reconnaissance, it is possible to strike not only, say, the headquarters of our fleet in sevastopol, which in itself is of course bad, but there are military personnel there, they find... combatants, this is their job, yes, but we see that the ukrainians are actually moving to terror tactics, to a war of cities, yes, when strikes are indiscriminately delivered , not even in terms of energy infrastructure, but simply in terms of construction, and accordingly, you can’t win a war with glory, taurus, but as you said, within the framework of terror tactics, this is a threatening weapon, i talked with the russian military and they are not serious about this missile, and of course , again not to some kind of ukrainian magic wand, but
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as something that helps ukraine further increase what is considered in moscow as the terrorist capabilities of the kiev regime. dmitry, there is one more aspect here that cannot be ignored, at least to us, the military does not have the right to say this, because they are under oath, the fact is that when the same air defense systems are used to protect cities to protect communications what is needed to cover the troops in the foreground, this creates tension, including for the military, well the military responds to this by saying that naturally, all decisions are made by the supreme commander-in-chief, but they say that they are closely monitoring what ukraine is doing if someone in washington expects that such tactics can be used against
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russian peaceful cities, bridges, i would like to remind you that the crimean bridge, contrary to ukrainian beliefs, when it comes especially to its automobile part, there are no trucks there at all, in general, that is, it is definitely a peaceful object, and so they say that if this is done, it will be in moscow. to that treat this with due seriousness and find out how to respond to this symmetrically and asymmetrically, it seems to me that what is very important is that this is heard in washington and understood, although i must say honestly, i’m not very sure how one can convince washington of the seriousness of russian intentions if it won't.
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several destroyed bridges across the dnieper, especially in kiev, in the vicinity of kiev, i think , demonstrated the seriousness of why this is not being done, the big question is, it is not being done yet, and what is not being done is this is the whole problem, because moscow knows why this is not being done, and washington doesn’t want to believe that this is... that moscow cannot and will not decide. i think that this is a dangerous misconception that must be kept in mind, which must be tried if you want to dispel, but i am aware that in words, it’s just not easy to do this, what is this latest statement by zelsky that he will produce weapons in ukraine together with the united states. you know, apparently, the results of the visit abroad were... mixed, let's just say, we all know about
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the scandal in canada in america, in fact, was good pr, good surroundings, but apparently there are not as many results as we know, now the americans have delivered the first 10 abrams tanks out of thirty-one promised, and now negotiations are underway for the delivery of thirty more. against this background, zelsky made a statement that an agreement had been reached on joint production of weapons between the united states and ukraine, yes, well, this reminds me of an old soviet film. remember, the three musketeers, where the hero playing boanae, uh, the great russian actor konevsky, says the cardinal, grocer and cardinal, this is power, i will save france, i will save france. it is absolutely obvious that the united states will not transfer any military technologies, not even for screwdriver assembly, to ukraine , just as they do not transfer them to almost any of their allies, that is, this is a bluff, this is an absolute lie, this cannot happen maybe, because this can never happen, even such close allies as japan and great britain are transferred
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only outdated technologies in homeopathic doses, in general, the americans have the main thesis: if you want us to be compatible, why do you need to produce your own weapons? buy ours, you buy in america or get it for free, then you become just like us. therefore, i am deeply convinced that there is not a word of truth in president zelensky’s statement. thank you, let's talk about another topic: nagorno-karabakh. i was impressed by the wall street journal report in today's issue where they absolutely. categorically assert that when hostilities began, prime minister pashinyan did not send its armed forces to nagorno-karabakh at all, which in other words, azerbaijan was allowed to deal with
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the nagorno-karabakh militia, without the armenian army even trying to enter... onto the battlefield, koren chaknazarov, leading director, we just bokterov said, you are of a higher rank, as you look, here we have at atolensky , how do you look, how do you look at this drama, the tragedy that is happening in nagorno-karabakh and has pashinyan really, well, if you like, so dissociated himself from his armenian brothers... the psychology of mr. pashyanyan, although i should, well, you know the facts, well, well, i , i can, first of all, say one simple thing, in general, any decent person, even if he is completely, completely innocent in the current situation, having lost
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the war and now having lost karabakh, he must resign altogether, this is in my opinion, even if he... had nothing to do with all this, if during his period it was like this, because this is a real tragedy for the armenians of karabakh, of course, is happening, but mr. pashinyan had directly related to this, of course, one cannot completely blame him for losing the war of the twentieth year, as they say, and before it there, i think that nagorno-karabakh with its generally mountainous terrain, and if it had been properly... . was created fortified, as we see in avdeevka in ukraine, so to speak, the situation could have been different, but it is clear that there was a lot of corruption there and not everything can be, as they say, presented to pashinyan himself, but he signs a peace treaty with azerbaijan, recognizes the integrity
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azerbaijan, that is, it recognizes that karabakh is part of azerbaijan, let’s say it no longer has it. there were no options, but elementary, the first thing he had to do was to include in this negotiation process the fate of the armenians-karabakh, that is , in some way, and i think that azerbaijan would have accepted a discussion at all, at least on this matter , but he didn’t even lift a finger, what follows from this, his whole philosophy emerges from this, that for me, that as i see it, i see it very simply, he’s playing on on... on the americans, as they say, on the hands of the americans, what is the idea? to surrender karabakh, and to surrender it in such a way as to cause, as it were, a rejection in the armenian society against russia , like russia, so to speak, that is, there is an element of provocation, there is an element, definitely a provocation, on this, on this wave, to declare,
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that russia cannot ensure the security of armenia, and we must leave the udkb, i think his next step will be exactly like this, and the next step, in my opinion, is obvious, withdrawal of the russian base from the territory of armenia, today there were reports that he demanded that they pay for the bases, but then he wanted to say, but then there was a message that this is a fake, well, in any case, there is no smoke without fire, i think that the ultimate goal is to put an american base there in place of the russian base, because for the americans this is an ideal story, even... not to mention the fact that they are expelling russia, but for them it is against iran, this is, as they say, their worst enemy in the middle east, for them this is... will be of enormous importance, in my opinion, it is moving in this direction, and of course, this is also a direct betrayal of the armenian people, in general, because
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if armenia in this case loses the support of russia and iran, which, by the way, also has a lot supported armenia in the nineties, if not for iran, when in general , that is, it is unknown, what would have happened to armenia, then of course, this is the fate of armenia and the armenian people as a whole... very sad, so i, as they say, have no doubts, that pashinyan is personally responsible for everything that happens there, and continues to do this and moves in this direction , in my opinion, this is a fairly well-thought-out plan, this is what it looks like, karen, karen, you clearly haven’t received the latest news from washington, it was stated there that secretary of state blinken spoke with aliyev and told him... strength , can you imagine that the secretary of state said and aliyev did not listen, this cannot happen, really,
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no, well, that’s all, that’s all, by the way , here we go again this environment, look, the russians, as they say, couldn’t protect us, the americans tried, they didn’t have the power to do it, they didn’t have the authority to do it, so we need to change the ally, so it seems to me that this is another states, nothing either didn’t do anything to help karabakh, who, like the united states, won’t do anything and they never will , and they still definitely won’t do anything, and macron made loud statements, didn’t do anything, but of course, you’re right, this is huge the tragedy of the armenians, namely karabakh, which in fact, in my opinion, will apparently, apparently, come out of the carab en masse. and practically this could mean the end of the history of karabakh, someone will probably stay, and i say, some will be decorative,
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because by the way, i think that azerbaijan will demonstrate its loyalty in order to look like the turks, so to speak, this is for them not profitable, but there will be no genocide, no, i think, i think no, they will not allow it, moreover, maybe a couple of deputies will choose this, but i just understand that many armenians of karabakh do not trust. this situation will simply be to leave, already what 40, more than 40,000 or 50,000, well, you said, so this is already a third , you said that this is a tragedy, and of course, when i personally look at this tragedy, i look at it as a historian, and i think about what happened in 915, about that, you can talk about the holocaust, not the holocaust, genocide, not genocide, but what it was, a terrible tragedy , a barbaric massacre of hundreds of thousands, if not millions of people, it was done by the turks,
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it no one denies, but of course, what happened at the end of the eighties, then, what happened in songait, to some extent in baku, the soviet union had to send troops, this forced the armenians of nagorno... karabakh from azerbaijan, so to speak, this whole story began, that is, there was a lot of things and... 100% and this memory is of course not good for
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the armenians of karabakh and senator jabarov, you are the deputy chairman of the international affairs committee of the federation council, i assume that you and your colleagues look at this situation with concern, you probably have some thoughts , not just about what happened. but also what will happen now? well, you know, i think, of course, we are watching the situation carefully, but still trying not to be harsh, yes, so as not to worsen the situation for either side, but in this case i want to say something else, here we are now we are reaping the fruits of what our leaders and leaders did, when a great country fell apart, all conflicts without exception are the result of the collapse of the soviet... union, and as for armenia specifically, the forty-four-day war, we remember how it developed, in fact, if not
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intervention of the president... karabakh would have already disappeared then, and you know that the entire population there was on the verge of extermination, this was stopped, but we expected that in these 3 years there would be some real progress, negotiations, but there were no negotiations happened, the russian peace plan was rejected, negotiations between armenia and azerbaijan did not go ahead, and most importantly, new players appeared, france and the united states of america, i am amazed, especially when they say, france, yes, that france, whom it helped, it africa i couldn’t figure it out, now the ambassador has already fled from niger, returned to france, that they will help the armenians of karabakh, yes , there is a large armenian diaspora in france, they say a lot that we need to support the rights of armenians in armenia, in karabakh, but this goes beyond words
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nothing goes, the same thing with the americans will never shed blood for anyone, they will not interfere directly in the conflict anywhere, because on the one hand turkey is a member of nato, the americans will not be with them either, on the other hand it’s like armenia, which has always gravitated towards russia, i think that life still stands in its place, i would not put an end to this story yet, i think that there is a powerful study of the situation among our diplomats along the line... the ministry of defense through the armed forces, special services, and i think that, of course, the situation should somehow become clearer, you know, what upset me most of all, the unpleasant thing in this situation, was the detention of ruben vardanyan, a good successful russian businessman, and who went to nagorno-karabakh for a short period of time and filled a position head of government,
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he never called for any... separatist manifestation , he never declared independence, by the way, nagorno-karabakh also did not declare independence and did not ask for recognition, just like armenia, yes, it also did not recognize nagorno-karabakh, i believe that he is a big businessman, he is generally a philanthropist, in fact , an investor, he invested a lot in the economy of the same armenia, i don’t think that he could have done any deeds that would be followed, i personally know him well, i even had the honor maybe... he's been working at his company for two or three months before the election of the federation council in the distant ninth year, well, i was left with such a good impression of him, an absolutely decent person, i hope that the parties to the conflict will sort it out and this person will be free in the near future, that’s actually what i wanted senator, explain,
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he renounced russian citizenship or simply acquired additional citizenship, well, i don’t know, he refused... well, as the same telegram channels write, yes, he refused, he himself spoke about it, because he wanted to run for the head of nagorny karabakh, but at the same time, he had armenian citizenship then, now, but i think that armenia could come out in defense of its citizen, even now, i asked you a question for the obvious reason that it is easier for russia to protect a person who is, of course, we cannot because he is stateless. okay, although there’s not much good in this, uh, we’re off to some advertising and we’ll be back in just a few minutes, let’s talk more about nagorno-karabakh and its consequences, a jackal, as it’s written in the books, a jackal, only with the nooses of war
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the enemy’s losses. the drone did fall, the crew even wrote it down as a reward, just as kiev propagandists composed an alternative history of our balalaika. the balalaika, as a russian instrument, is not true, absolutely not true. this video has 74 views, the idea that the balalaika is ukrainian is not exciting, the first evidence of the balalaika was in 1688, anti-fake, premiere, tomorrow on the first and always on 1tv.ru, a big game is on air, in armenia, especially... in yerevan are happening protests against the pashinyan government and many are demanding exactly what you told karen georgievich, that pashinyan resigned. let's see what the new york
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times has to say about this. in yerevan since last week, thousands protesters come out to the central square every night, they shout a curse at prime minister pashiyan for not sending troops to protect his brothers, they chant, long live artsakh. in this. this week, mr. geragosyan met in washington with officials shocked by the defeat of artsakh and said that he expected more resistance. from the point of view of military tactics, i thought they would go to the mountains - he said about ethnic armenians. in nagorno-karabakh, small militant nationalist groups of armenia, crusaders like the detachment loudly declared about help, but did not provide significant support, pashinyan’s government did not intervene in the conflict, well, it confirms what we were talking about, and now i can’t imagine how, at least in the foreseeable future, the situation in nagorny can be corrected
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karabakh, in addition, as you said, karen, and how to urge baku as much as possible to fulfill its own promise, to treat these people as full-fledged azerbaijani citizens, but this, in general, to some extent depends on russia, but first queue, still depends on armenia. because she will negotiate with azerbaijan on many issues, to what extent pashen will truly become a defender of the interests of the armenians , nagorno-karabakh, this will be very important, but i want to ask you, what do you think about pashinyan’s political future, will he survive this time ? i don’t know anymore, i honestly thought that after the first war they wouldn’t elect him at all, it’s like this is a phenomenon for me, the country lost the war, and, in general,
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it lost in smithereens, frankly speaking, and how they say he is being re-elected, i don’t really understand the motives anymore, i don’t live in armenia , the motives of the armenian society and what motivates it as far as they say, now yes, many people are protesting there, but that doesn’t mean that a critical mass is protesting there is no such feeling against pashinyan yet, no, there is no such feeling, well, that’s all. is that ultimately, of course, well, yes, now we need to somehow, in principle, in my opinion, i’ve been talking about this for a long time, in general, the situation is when armenia and azerbaijan find the strength, let’s say, to forget the past and establish some kind of good neighborly relations, which should be, on the one hand, this opportunity exists today, there are
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opportunities so that, because ultimately, well, two peoples are neighbors, they must live together, in this sense, of course , a big role will be played by how the leadership of azerbaijan behaves in relation to guarantees for the armenians of karabakh, so to speak, in them, at least for those who remain. to ensure their safety and, so to speak, and the development of their cultural and other things, but i must say frankly that aliyev makes an impression, he proved a very smart, insightful leader, while the armenian leaders, god knows what they were doing, he was building an army, he did everything very competently, as they say, in general he achieved what he wanted, what, what are the claims against him, so i repeat, well, it’s a paradox, the victors are not judged, the victors, but the point is that legally, in fact, armenia
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never recognized karabakh, did not recognize at all, what, what grounds are there, moreover, the last agreement, armenia recognized azerbaijan in its boundaries, that is accordingly, karabakh was also recognized, so there can be no claims in this sense against azerbaijan or its leader, so there are opportunities here to sort it out. of some kind of movement towards reconciliation, towards cooperation, there are opportunities in the case, as they say, of some negative ones, this, by the way , it seems to me that such people are primarily demonstrated by the prime minister of armenia, because if he will expel russia and iran from this process, this will not end well for either armenia or the southern caucasus, you said so. ruslan, that winners are not judged, well, actually, winning depends on
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which winners, winners, what? if it's a boxing match, someone wins one round, but could lose the next, then of course he will be judged. well, if the war is won, that’s a different story. and so i want to ask you, knowing the balance of power in this? and who is behind whom? do you see any opportunities for armenia, let’s say with the help of the usa, france, anyone, to try. get a match for rivanovich or is it out of bounds realistically, considering that azerbaijan is economically much more powerful, yes, has income from oil and gas, its army is more powerful, and the main azerbaijan was able to build, thanks to
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aliyev and his diplomats, this is how it is, why he never irritated russia, here is armenia, like ukraine, but constantly did the so-called european one. yes, nato, the european union, aliyev never made a statement that we want to join nato, the european union, and accordingly, this did not traumatize russia, now that the collective west is putting pressure on russia and is trying to block, in particular its export supplies of energy resources, of course, azerbaijani energy resources are very necessary, therefore, like blinken, he can put a lot of pressure on azerbaijan when the collective west, the same europe, is in need. gas, yes, he can express a certain set of protocol concerns, and aliyev will even listen to him, but he can forget about it as soon as he hangs up, returning to your direct question, in my opinion, the only thing that armenia can do is organize a competent evacuation of this population to its territory,
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then find out, maybe some of these people want to move to russia, maybe someone wants to move to france, someone to glendale, by the way, i must say that my experience shows people living in the army. people who understand what russia is, which are conditionally divided into two categories : healthy russia has done for armenia, both historically and now, and people who fanatically, fanatically do not love russia, unlike those in armenia who do not love russia, i have not met a single person from the diaspora, be it american, be it armenian, french, they are all very respectful of russia, it’s not true, well, at least, if you don’t take rafi, who, you don’t know, american, french, it’s very specific, there are quite a lot of people there who have a very negative attitude towards russia, i won’t say that all, but there are many of them, there are many of them, by the way, many of them moved to armenia, the last, in general, sumir is what you are talking about, the maximum that
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armenia can do with the help of the diaspora, yes, this is some- then to settle these people in a new place, the loss of karabakh is, of course, a great tragedy. but if, with the loss of territory, thousands of people will also die, yes, or let’s say, they will eke out some kind of miserable existence, and this will be a tragedy multiplied by two or three, well, you know, i’ll add, armenia, armenia has one a serious trump card remains, if the armenians do not lose it, then this is a very serious trump card and for negotiations with with with azerbaijan with the turks, as they say, this is zangezur, well, zaginda is that what divides, separates azerbaijan from nakhichevans, this is the most important, in general, in principle, armenia is isolated, it has no access to the sea, but azerbaijan is also isolated, so, of course, this is such a serious trump card that, with a competent, let’s say,
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nationally oriented leader, can be very well used in negotiations with azerbaijan, i can’t agree. the path to cooperation, but this is a serious trump card that remains with the armenian leadership for negotiations , including on the fate of the karabakh-armenians, by the way. what do you say to those in russia who say: we did everything they could for armenia, we received black ingratitude in response, they actually refused to cooperate with the csto in yerevan, they instead brought american troops for some kind of joint maneuvers, they, in general, are no longer friends of russia and really russia is involved in a very serious war in ukraine,
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faces many global challenges, why doesn’t russia meet pashinyan halfway? and don’t wash your hands of it, let them figure it out themselves, how do you respond to this? well i think those anyone in armenia who says that russia did not help is committing a great sin. moreover, if russia leaves the southern caucasus, specifically from armenia, then i am not sure that armenia will even continue to exist as an independent state. you know, pashinyan should also be given credit, he works great with his special services, but i am far from sure that the army is happy with what happened in karabakh in the twentieth year after the defeat, a heavy defeat, i think that the army is very strong pro-russian sentiments, she hasn’t said her word yet, i’m not calling for anything, i’m saying it right away, but
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nevertheless, common sense will always prevail first of all among the military, and as for the people who say what we did, you know, well, to be honest, uh, it’s even embarrassing to listen to them, they just haven’t read history , they don’t know how russia saved the armenians, you saw everything on tv when our peacekeeper was nursing a little armenian girl and holding her in his arms, our peacekeepers died there when they carried out this operation by salvation, i hope, i am sure of this, that there are much more sensible people in armenia, and those who dream of european buns, trains, trips to the cote d'azur, i know that there are such people too, but they do not understand that this is a lure that was in ukraine, and how it all ended, they understand, and only being part of the csto , in an alliance with russia, can armenia survive, armenia
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simply has no other option for survival, what is the importance of this region for russia? well, colin georgievich and ruslan nikolaevich said the importance big, because iran is nearby, if we lose this region, then armenia will be left alone, in general, surrounded by, well, such a large turkic world, it has its own interests, and first of all, not the interests of azerbaijan, yes, a very strong leader, ilham aliyev, we must pay tribute, he built a strong state, created an army, but turkey stands behind him, no one else will stand behind armenia, i think that it simply will not hold the zangezur corridor, nothing special, if necessary, they will simply not pass it noticing, so i think it's not too late, such a strengthening of turkey would not be in the interests of russia, is this what you mean, but it would not be in the interests of russia and, by the way, iran is the same, in general there is a lot, such an intersection of interests of many countries, and the united states
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of america, taking into account that , that iran is there, and for the americans iran does not need resettlement, so i think that this action, this tragedy is not over yet, but if only it, in general, does not end tragically for the armenian people, i will add two words, yes , i must say that you understand, armenian society, i often had to do this. hear, it lived for the last decade and even the end of the soviet period, with the idea that armenia, russia is needed more than russia, that is , armenia needs russia more than, of course, it seems to me that this is an illusion, it seems to me, an illusion, yes, armenia is useful for russia, as a strategic raft in the southern caucasus, of course, as a wedge, as a threat to turkey. you see, let’s remember historically how this happened, this happened when russia was interested in a war with turkey,
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today it’s completely different geopolitical situation, therefore, in principle, russia needs armenia, but armenia needs russia much more, this is what the armenian society must understand for itself, because if it does not understand this, it may happen that russia will really leave the southern caucasus, this will happen, but this is not such a serious blow. how to say so, as some people suspect, it is obvious to me that what karen said is absolutely accurate, for armenia, relations with russia are a matter of existence, for russia, normal relations with armenia, the survival of armenia is strong preference, yes, but no more, no more, we go out to... we'll be back in just a few minutes, for which elena kiyashko, and
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were the performers trained for this action? city is a large center that deals with questions about underwater mining, how to install explosive devices, the guys went into the diving bell, the pressure was equalized, they rose, the whole ship could leave. saboteurs and combat swimmers work according to this scheme, and how they covered their tracks, you heard what our president said, of course, there were secret plans, i wrote about them, on the anniversary of the explosion of the northern streams, on sunday, on the first, the big game was broadcast how are you good? you know, georgivich, in russian society there is a serious and, it seems to me, generally constructive discussion about how to teach history. at least
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it seems to me that over the past many years history has been taught, well, let’s say, between ugly and somehow. and history textbooks, historical works. in a soviet school, and i also don’t really want there to be any government textbooks that give one single correct version, as a result, in general, many schoolchildren, especially the more educated and talented ones, are simply repelled. well, i think, firstly, to write a school history textbook, very talented people should write it
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people, first of all writers, in my understanding, in general history is largely art, literature, starting there from ancient times, when titus, livy, herodotus were there, who they were, they were mostly artists, and i in this sense, that i think this is a story for school, but you have to understand that most people are like this. there will never be any history to study after school , well, this is how this world works, which means these people should be given, first of all, a brief summary of the history of their country, in principle, they should have a feeling of positive, this should be the image is positive, but it’s the same, you know, raising children and telling them that your mother is a prostitute and your father is a bandit, what will we get as a result, you know, it should be a positive image, it seems to me, a textbook. history must first of all serve the interests of today. you know, i was once in mexico, i was more than once, but one day i learned an interesting feature, i see that they don’t have a monument to cortez anywhere, but
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cortez founded modern mexico, he conquered it, brutally conquered, millions there were people, indians, yes, but he founded it, it’s not there anywhere, i ask my friends, i had a film rental there, it was a week, my retrospective of the distributors, guys... then i say, and they say, but it ’s prohibited in our school cortez, i say, how forbidden, how is he? she says we don’t have it at all, i say why, how? he says, because among the population , partly descendants of indians, partly descendants of spaniards, kriols, we believe that if this figure is taught today, there may be internal conflicts, i first, and i say, but in general, well, he says: in universities, please, scientists, this, well, i mean that they proceed from the good of today, so we need to find some kind of consensus, this is not to say that i propose to exclude stalin there, in no
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case, i think stalin outstanding.

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