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carefully so that no one approaches it. we continue, this is a podcast about the life of the wonderful, i am with you, its leading writer alexey varlamov, my guest is vladimir romanovich ligoida, professor mgemo, editor-in-chief of the foma magazine, chairman of the senate department for interaction between church and society. do you think, for example, is a political party necessary or possible in russia? well, that’s how it happens in other countries, christian, i think, now probably just in case i’ll say that this is... in my personal capacity i say, i think that today it’s not, including, you know, there is such a general approach, i remember how- then also metropolitan kiril, then, the future his holiness patriarch, i was at some round table one of the party functionaries, i don’t remember now which party, he said that the church is conservative, our party is conservative, let’s support us, he says , well, a party by definition, as is now customary to say, i’m not quoting, but i’m trying to convey thoughts, this is part of it, it works with part
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of society, and the church is for everyone, therefore... i understand that this is not the answer of a political scientist, someone will say that this does not interfere, all the same maybe there is some kind of christian democratic party, but it’s just that at the philistine level this difficulty has arisen , they will say, but if there is a christian party, then all christians should support this party and so on, this doesn’t happen in the political world, and i i think that in our time, not fully enlightened by the gospel, this it will not be useful to serve, but to create additional points of tension in public life, and then the next question follows from this: when are church ministers, and even priests, can they go into politics from your point of view, i don’t know, there was a time when were popular yes, not now with us, we have it now, here i won’t separate myself from the function that i am, we have a very specific ban on this, all kinds of statements on social networks, i don’t
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know, somewhere else- then, it's somehow somehow receives an assessment from the church leadership, somehow it is regulated, they call someone there and say, well, grandma, you don’t need to get involved in this matter, or vice versa, they call someone and say, you need to speak out, support there, when local elections, what else? no, this is more likely our interaction with priests who are present on social networks today and are quite active, we have hundreds of thousands of people there, millions of people, here there is rather interaction, including our department, as a specialized one, with such priests engaged, as we say, in the internet mission, and we can ask them for something or or ask them to do something or not to do something, and they do not always listen to us, but we try to convince them, so to speak, to stay in dialogue, but this does not, as a rule , concern any political statements, it can only concern us in the sense that we ask them not to make political statements, since there is still a certain opinion on this matter, that is, a certain discipline in this world exists, exists, but you understand how, here in the russian church, in general in the entire russian
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orthodox church, there are more than 4,000 clergy, in this sense , of course, we have a rather free situation, because i remember, once many years ago, we - a representative, some pr person in charge of one social network held we have a closed seminar, he says, well, where does it begin... a person who can speak on behalf of the organization, everyone else is prohibited, and although we explain there that this is the position of the church, who can express it in what cases, but with us not there is a ban, but this is unimaginable, they are in some kind of government or business structure, yes, where only specially designated people can speak, he is a priest, you just can’t deprive him of this pastoral component that presupposes him. of these 4000, everyone, well, not everyone, many can understand this in their own way, and well, anything can happen here, and we have to give some explanations, i did a lot in my time and still do, now
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it’s true less, we are with journalists communicated with editors and explained that if some the priest said something, then there is no need to immediately speak in the russian church, they decided or decided or believe, as well as... we need to challenge us with these questions and what is the official position of the church regarding gmos there or homeopathy, why should the church be the official position on homeopathy, or gmos, why don’t we admit that among millions of believers, people can have different attitudes to this, there is no dogmatic meaning in these relations, well, i mentioned it to the person, yes, that’s what i really want it’s interesting, because it’s so, well, it was informational, there was a lot of noise around. of this event, that's what you think about this story, here's you personally, i had an interview on one respected radio, a wonderful colleague, he started with the fact that society was split over the transfer of the trinity to the church, that's what you think about this you think, and with your permission i will simply repeat it, because it seems to me that this is very important, firstly, society is split only in
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the media, there is no split in society on this matter, to say that our society split into two groups, one for it, the other against it, and secondly, and i think he added that the fact that this is a cultural catastrophe or a problem, well, at least these assessments sounded, was not his , then from others, but i just the day before spoke with one young man, student age, and we accidentally came up with this topic, and not only did he not know that the trinity had been handed over to the church, he did not know that such an icon existed, to my question, who is andrei rublev, he said, he is a tennis player, so this is a cult, that’s why i i think, regarding the trinity, that the cultural catastrophe today is that we have people, young, maybe not very young, who do not know that it exists, this is the problem, and not the fact of the transfer of the church and its possible everything will be fine there with storage, the church certainly has no task of storing the icon in such a way that it is poorly preserved, so to speak, well, on the one
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hand this is understandable, on the other hand, why exactly now and this happened, not 5 years ago and yet, well, if there are no strict cause-and-effect relationships, then i i really don’t want to put on the suit... of my political scientist colleagues, whose task, well, i’m being sarcastic, of course, is to explain something, or predict something, then, when it doesn’t come true, explain why it didn’t come true, but i don’t do that, here - well, this happened now, but by the way, to say, this is a process, also last summer the icon was transferred to the trinity, yes, so this cannot be said that this is a one-time decision, just today, i know, i’m reading when - today on a number of social networks, here are explanations of what is happening decisions, including personnel decisions, when i know exactly the background of these decisions, then i can tell you that in 100% of cases, even what can be called more or less high-quality analytics does not coincide with reality.
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simply because an analyst operates with logical constructs, well, plus he knows the context, the situation, yes, but if he does not know the true reasons for the decision or the real situation, then he still rationally constructs reality, and life as reality does not lend itself to rational construction, life as a theory, it lends itself, but how reality is not, that is, when you read such secular journalism, which writes on church topics, and you read it with such an outfit, this is right, this is wrong, did you guess it? not only secular, there are even now people who are professionally involved in some things, but let’s say , religious scholars of some kind, people who are, i don’t know, oppositionists, some orthodox, so i read their explanation of what - these are the events that are happening now, i understand that you guys didn’t get it, well, it’s not at all the same as you, what do you want it seems that you perform in such cases, or what? well, it depends on each specific case, that is, here, well, do you personally decide to speak or not to speak?
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no, not always, when the patriarch says that it is necessary to give - yes, or asks, or says , that it is necessary to give, i can say that maybe it is not necessary, although i must admit that there were situations when i i tried, that ’s how it seems to me, well, after all, i feel responsible, i’m trying, perhaps , to say that your lordship may not be necessary, but every time i then become convinced that the patriarch makes the right decision , that is, you are in constant contact with his holiness, yes, but at the same time i think it’s wrong to constantly pull him, because why am i... then i’m needed if i don’t - i start calling the patriarch with any question, well then he can do without me, of course, it’s understandable, so you started talking about this young man, and for whom andrei rublev is a tanesist, well , look, i’m even interested in returning to your teaching activity, then what for the most important thing for you is that it is obvious that not all of your students are believers, maybe even quite the opposite, but for you it is important in your lectures to somehow emphasize your belonging to the church.
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and try to drag students to your side, no, i don’t do this on purpose, moreover, in this sense, well, somehow i think it’s necessary, that is, your church is separated from the church, well , no, not quite like that , i remember that, after all, the separation of school from church, and at one time, this did not even follow from the separation of church from state, maybe directly, but i still have topics related to religion within the courses that i teach, but not with orthodoxy and not with orthodox theology, it’s cultural studies, i , as a cultural scientist, as a teacher of philosophical disciplines, i proceed from this, i never i hide my views and generally think that it’s impossible, but why doesn’t this bother me very much? i’m especially not worried about student atheism, because it ’s almost never hard-won, but when we touch on atheism, i especially if the guys ask, i say always that
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like this... often, we know this, from the history of philosophy, yes, in general, human thought, that very often atheism is so deeply thought out, it is a tragic worldview, and it seems to me that it cannot be any other way, because in fact , this is the solution to the main question, yes, death, finitude, being there, non-existence, yes, that’s why i understand that the student’s worldview is not complete, so by the way, to say, these are all these sociological surveys, young people have become smaller there, i in general i don’t see this... as a problem, because i know, i saw how students change from the first year to the fourth, they began to experience what in the first year seemed generally unworthy of experiencing, although the interest in religious issues, religious and philosophical, is consistently high, and i’m ninety fifth, i teach, and i don’t see that changing , that is, it seems to you that all these generations, as they are called there, are not there, they are changing, of course, a lot seems to me, for the better, it has changed for the current ones there compared
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with freshmen 10-15 years ago, although something has not changed, maybe it was instilled into me in the soviet union , but now they say that we have lost our youth, we raised them wrong, we need to change the education system, everything needs to be changed, it turns out that nothing is needed, no, the system education, of course, needs to be changed, and i also try to think a lot about it and even say something , but this education in general seems to me, in the world everything is in crisis, it has reached such dead ends from which it cannot get out, but the guys themselves themselves, they even began to look at it from the point of view perception of religious topics, it seems to me that they are much more open today, they still know very little, and have generated some kind of monstrous general cultural ignorance, but this is a characteristic of how they were trained, yes, how they were taught, what they did last 2 years at school, and we know that they were preparing to take three disciplines - they didn’t do anything else, and the vast majority, with the exception of the olympiads, who didn’t do this, but were simply trying
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to win the olympiads, that’s some kind of openness, it , well, i just have a simple example, this, of course, may not be very high-quality sociology. but for five years now i’ve been teaching a course on political communication of the modern church as a master’s student, and even though this is a course about the modern church , i still have to start from the stove, because there is no knowledge, there were no courses in the history of religion, although they come to us from different universities to the magistrate as like everywhere, like any other, but from year to year so far each new set shows me more and more, maybe i’m so lucky, interest in the topic, here you are they said that in education it is necessary to change education , but what would you still begin to change in education in the current russian one? it just seems to me that aleksandrovich fodeev’s idea is very correct, and he is now also saying that we must, exactly , if we are at a turning point, especially, yes, we must set some kind of large-scale task, this is the approach, preparation person
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there with the competencies, he is so small, yes, he is so out of step with either the time or the problems that exist, so they forgot that a person is a seeker of truth, goodness, beauty and benefit, and this should manifest itself in education, it seems to me that this is a return to education, an understanding of the scale, the goal that a person, a person who is being educated, education is training plus upbringing, if we removed education, it’s just training, it’s no longer education, yes, what is education is a person, in fact, a person as such, because an uneducated person is not a person yet, this is a task that you can just proclaim and don’t be afraid to say that knowledge exists value in itself, yes, not just any value, but it is knowledge as a worldview category, not information, not a set of information, so we must set this task, with fodeev, when we talked, he
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said a very correct thing, that after all, this is not the task of bureaucratic structures is that society should discuss this and set some ideas to articulate, which then... and some goals, which then bureaucratic structures will ensure movement in this direction, not in the sense of excluding them from process, but still impossible demand from the ministry that they now give us these concepts and lay out these concepts, it seems to me that we don’t talk about this very much, well, we talked about it today, which is very cool, thank you very much for this conversation, i know , that this year you turned 50 years old, and you celebrated your anniversary, god bless you, good things, in a magazine that i really love to read, i wish you all the best in your work, in all its manifestations, thank you very much, it was podcast life of the wonderful, hosted by writer alexey varlamov, our guest was vladimir romanovich ligoida, chairman of the department for interaction between
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church and society, editor-in-chief of the magazine foma, professor mgemo. hello, i am pilot cosmonaut anton shkaplerov, this is a space stories podcast, today my guest is anna toshcheva, an employee of the cosmonaut training center, a specialist in space nutrition. anna, you have been working at the cosmonaut training center for a long time, you are an experienced employee, tell us what you do there, well, for the last 3 years i i am engaged in training cosmonauts and astronauts in the life support systems of the russian segment of the iss, in fact , my laboratory is engaged in training in these systems, these systems include oxygen supply systems, atmosphere purification systems,
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water supply systems, as well as power supply systems, including, actually, we train cosmonauts and astronauts on board the russian segment, how to use these systems and how to maintain them correctly and routinely. a how did you get into the space industry in the first place ? was it a childhood dream or did it somehow happen by accident? i think i had no choice, because i was already born in star city, when there was a military unit, my dad, being a lieutenant, came to star city, in fact, i was already born in star city and graduated from a school named after cosmonaut pilot vladimir mikhailovich komarov, so i think that my whole life from the moment of birth has led me one way or another. at the cosmonaut training center, that is, from school skamiy were already prepared to work in roscosmos, well, practically, you can say so. what cosmonauts know is about space nutrition on earth and i am often asked about this how cosmonauts eat and whether they even eat from tubes from tubes they
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really eat, well, more precisely, they ate, the first cosmonauts actually received food packaged in the form of not just tubes, but tubes it looked about professional, if we say professional, these are not tubes of toothpaste, these are tubes of food, yes, well, that’s actually how these tubes look now, at the moment, yes, they still exist. at the moment there is mustard, honey, seasonings, but these are the things we now have in these tubes, at the dawn of astronautics, in fact, starting with yuri alekseevich gagarin, and in fact, the cosmonauts ate exactly the same, well, for the simple reason that at first it was not clear how the digestive organs would work in conditions of weightlessness, how they would absorb useful microelements from food, that’s why, in fact, we need food in the first place, so it was... but that food is necessary puree it so that it is much lighter, easier to pass through the organs of the digestive system, and the tubes are convenient because
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they are quite light packaging, and most importantly, by twisting the tube, you may not finish it, you can conditionally close it, twist it and put it aside then begin the process of absorbing food again, that is, in this regard, in all respects, the tube was really very convenient, but the first cosmonauts had not yet heated what was in the tubes with them... and there was just borscht and feasted meat vid, here, but first that's all was in a cold form, only at the unions the first food warmers appeared, so that the cosmont had the opportunity to consume hot food, that is, at the unions there were already food warmers, already at the union, and at union nine the first food warmer appeared, that is, but with they still ate from tubes, yes, they were, mostly they were tubes, then in the process, little by little, the packaging of cosmic food began to evolve , in fact, what we have come to now is this... almost a complete rejection of blunts, like i said, only
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mustard, honey and all sorts of seasonings, now mostly main courses, appetizers, some desserts for the astronauts in this form, in the form of a tin can, they come in different types, here we have a large tin can, 250 g, yes, there are small jars of 100 g. now new ones have also appeared, anton, you probably haven’t seen them yet, slightly thinner jars in which canned fish are now stored, well , at least maybe already, but well , actually for i could have used a jar like this eat it, yes, of course, you can open it enough, everything is already ready there, you don’t need to cook anything, open it and eat it with a fork, but still, if it’s some kind of meat product, a second course, then of course, it’s more pleasant to eat it hot, so the cosmonauts on the star module, service module have a special chair for eating, in which electric heaters are installed, jars are inserted into this electric heater, five of them in there... the lid of the electric heater is closed,
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a button is pressed and after half an hour, the contents of the jar will be heated to 65°, now it’s ready to eat, in addition it’s hot and tasty, as for cans, and space bread is also inserted into the electric food warmer, it’s also a pretty popular thing, and what’s so interesting about this bread, that it’s like this this is what it looks like, it is somewhat similar to these chocolate bars, which are divided into squares in the same way, there are several cubes, in my opinion there are 10 of them , yes, absolutely 10 in size, yes, yes, yes, absolutely, and why is this done in order to as they say one cube per bite, because any crumb that flies away in zero gravity can get into the respiratory tract, can get into the eye, there is nothing pleasant, god forbid it will be painful, unpleasant, so they are actually trying, well, at least the garbage won’t have it, but they are trying to get rid of the crumbs on station, and to minimize the number of mu that flies around the astronauts. the bread is also heated, well, i think that any housewife on earth knows that if the bread has been lying around since yesterday, put it in the microwave for 10 seconds, it
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will become soft, fluffy, it’s the same here principle, four pieces of bread are also installed in the electric heater, they are heated together with the jars, and the result is such a delicious, soft bread, and the bread comes in different types, in this case we have table bread, yes, there is borodino bread, but in fact our foreign colleagues. a lot, yes, a lot - different types of bread, depending on what kind of bread the cosmonauts actually prefer, they will put this kind of bread, and also very tasty honey mats in the same form, our cosmonauts also praise this like a dessert, well, this is one part of the types of food products, and another cluster now occupies just what has come to replace these very stupid ones, this is freeze-dried food in this form, that is, now soups, some main courses , the salads are all in this form, this is the kind of kharcho soup we get here, and the types are such a rather strong cracker, but in fact, here is
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a real kharcho soup, such sublimates are prepared. experimental plant, and a processing plant that makes space technology, here in the moscow region we have a deputy frame, yes, absolutely right, this plant has a separate line for the production of space food, what makes these products actually unique, well, if so - in short, there are chef aunts, cooking large vats of that same borscht or khorcho soup, then this soup once fully prepared, it is frozen, sent to a vacuum chamber and slowly heated. thus, water from a solid state, from an ice state, immediately passes into a gaseous state, bypassing the liquid phase, it turns out that water droplets, water molecules, leave every pore of the product, absolutely every pore, and then it’s all packaged in briquettes and in vacuum packaging, the advantage of such packaging is that under vacuum we have no access to oxygen, there is absolutely no
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water in the product, there is absolutely nothing to spoil, in this form. yes, there is an expiration date, yes, we’ll talk about it now, yes, but what i mean is that in this form it will actually be stored for many, many years, but the expiration date is yes, as you pointed out, it is indicated on each product, but this is the expiration date of delivery on board and, as it were, presumably, so that this product has time to travel on board, that is, how old is the suparsha? this one is from the nineteenth year, and when the expiration date expires, it can be stored for 2 years, and the expiration date has expired from the nineteenth year , it’s expired, well, we, i hope today we won’t get to the point of eating it, although it’s not evening yet, i’m another big plus is that this packaging becomes lighter , yes, i just wanted to say this, what is the advantage, yes, not only does nothing get in here that could spoil the product, but this packaging is also lightweight , by the mass is much lighter than the same tubes in terms of volume, yes, everything is very important when delivering
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the kit, of course, very important, yes, well, and actually, so that the astronaut can consume this kharcho soup without gnawing on it in the form of a cracker, eat it like soup, as we are used to, the packaging has special places at both ends, which means that from this end the packaging is cut along the colored line for the astronauts and with this dovetail it is pulled onto the fitting of a special system onto the block distribution of heating, from which water will flow, to each. how much water specifically is needed for this product so that it is restored to the consistency that ultimately cooks both cold and hot, yes, but basically, when we season soups, of course we want to season it with hot water, i think it ’s written on the packaging how long will it take for this product to be restored, in this case, 15 minutes will be enough for us, our soup will be ready, as soon as the soup is ready, we
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still keep such a boot, because if there is meat, it absorbs very poorly water and becomes hard, that’s why we’re still there, even though we don’t have cooks, but we ourselves, like space cooks, prepare what didn’t work out, well , of course, no one can talk about this topic better than astronauts, so if we ’re talking about the first course, then in order to consume the soup from this package, you don’t need to pour it into a glass, we simply turn the package over with the other end, and here, if you make a cut, a tube will come out, in fact , it’s very convenient to consume this product from the tube, in this form , that's how i am she said, soups, there are main courses, there will no longer be this tube at the end , that is, after refueling, after restoration, it will be necessary to cut it conveniently enough to eat spoons through a lid or squeeze them out,
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but as for drinks, drinks are also available in freeze-dried i mean, these are juices. jelly, and the milk is freeze-dried, but if we are talking about tea and coffee, then in this form, bagged, bagged, yes, an absolutely ordinary bag, familiar to everyone, a bag of tea, if it is tea with sugar, then there will also be a spoonful of sugar poured in there, and there’s also no reason to have a bag in a bag, well, that’s how they came up with it, and in general the cosmonauts have very tasty cocoa, i tried it not so long ago, incredibly tasty cocoa, which is natural, mostly just one cocoa package, but hits two, right? two it turns out that there is some kind of defect, probably, but we like it, you are happy, yes, that two , well, no, everything is relative, thank god, there are enough drinks, tea, there is a lot of food, we have food in reserve, that is, even if god forbid the truck doesn’t come, but i i think we will still live for about three months on the supplies that we have, they deliver special food to you with a reserve, plus the food that is delivered with each truck in the form
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of fresh vegetables and fruits, yes, these are bonuses, although we have a bonus' containers, these are containers, bonus we call it foreign food, that is, this is what we chose after testing the food at nasa, before it was possible to take half of the products from nasa, from russia, somehow mixing it up for six months it was fine, now we just need bonus containers, that is, maybe expedition, i don’t know two, three, four, i recently prepared astronauts for a flight , they also complain that they are given very little russian food now, so i think it’s on both sides, well, in any case, we have an exchange, uh , i know that our colleagues really like cottage cheese, so we talked about bread, for example , black borodin... and the guys are happy to ask what to change it for and bring what you like from the diet of american cuisine and we calmly exchanged, but more
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in total we eat food together when we are in friday to saturday we gather either in the russian segment or in the american segment, that is, if they come to visit us, we cook, there are two heaters, yes, that is , we fill everything with cans, cook, well, sometimes you ask what... they read from the russian food, that is, we prepare it, invite you to visit us, so everyone gathers around the table, discusses the news, well, just how the week went, we consume russian food, the next day on saturday, according to tradition, we go to the american segment, they cook for us, they are already trying to something tasty from american diet sweets, which ones did you like best? oh, well, i’m tired, i’m not interested at all, i don’t like them, so i didn’t care what they had, what we had, i always gave it to everyone, neither on earth, nor in space, nowhere, nowhere, yes, although to us the support group is trying to pass on, i don’t know, some tasty treats
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, chocolates, sweets, marshmallows are very loved by our colleagues, there is no marshmallow in america, but it turns out to be very tasty, many cosmonauts said that if they don’t eat sweets on earth, well, basically somehow are indifferent, then up on the iss you really really want sweets, apparently the receptors still require some new sensations, i’m interested, anna, we discussed our food, yes, we still looked, yes, well, it’s still possible, that’s it, if it’s frosty, yes, here are sticks with prunes, and fruit sticks, may you be lucky, channel one, with the support of roscosmos, held a unique promotion, playing a challenge among the audience of the film, a visit to the cosmonaut training center, a trip to baikonor, the dream is still there to go to space fly. it’s incredible that this is impossible to see in housing, some winners went to the star city, while others saw the launch
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the intellectual club, what where, when? autumn series of games, on sunday on the first and always on 1tv.ru. i am pilot cosmonaut anton shkaplerov. this is a space stories podcast. we continue our conversation with anna tochva about space nutrition. how to write cases with american food? is she the same type? in general, the packaging and preparation methods are the same, but of course, american. food she gives preference to the food that americans eat in their homeland, that is for example, barbecue sauce , as far as i understand, it’s quite popular there, we don’t have it on board for example and somehow don’t use it, well , there are no burgers, uh, well, yes, there are pieces of meat, just steaks, steaks say they really are there are barbecue soaked in this sauce, there are other sauces, well, i prefer not this sweet barbecue, but where there is more spicy food, more where mexican food, yeah. and in general the trends
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are the same as ours in terms of packaging, at least in terms of production, almost everything is the same, we also have a water dispenser, i remember mine the first times, when they seemed to show it on the ground, it’s not difficult, in weightlessness there are difficulties, you can’t hold on with your hand, you have to hold the bag with one hand, open the valve with the other and hold on only with your feet, without having the experience of holding on to the handrails, you slip, continues. hot water was poured out, it all spilled out, it was still 85 ° there, it could be done very well, so it was difficult to learn, well over time , we learned how to open the cans, after that it must be made flat so that it reduces the volume during disposal, so that how the volume was as small as possible, what remains after our life activity, well, like any garbage, we try to minimize it, and it is definitely very important to finish everything from the jar to the end, because if it suddenly starts
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to deteriorate and gas, after all, there is half a pile of garbage. . to lie on progress until the moment of undocking of progress, in fact, this is what we also teach cosmonauts, we are trying to pass on to them the experience of senior colleagues, to young cosmonauts who are just getting ready to set out on their journey, this is actually what we are doing, and we are telling them how all this is possible exchange more at the station, because well, i also do this all the time, it’s one thing to order it on the ground, but it doesn’t come in sufficient quantities, but knowing the preferences for the stage, for example, i flew with an italian, samata christofeiti, i remember exactly for her borodino bread, for the sake of borodino bread she can give everything she has, here is donpet , uh, by the way, who is going to fly again, now he is preparing in the star city, i flew with him, he was a lover of cottage cheese, and he was in advance exchanging for any a piece of meat, what i always preferred, without any problems, i scooped up cottage cheese, he not only prepared it, he also put it in the refrigerator in the evening so that in the morning... he could eat it
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cold, that is, he is such a real gourmet in this matter, that’s why yes, michael barrett told me how he once cleaned my toilet in turn, for a piece of cake, so yes , they also have their own stories, they also sometimes share with us, you know the taste, what else could people do for food , interesting, yes, but as i understand it, many crews have already differed in that they prepared the food themselves on board, so i heard they cooked on board , rolled rolls, yes, in my opinion, just this year they made an easter cake from cookies alekh artemyev, exactly, from liver condensed milk, why -that is, there is a myth that canned food... is over-salted, well, they are really quite salty, if you eat a lot of canned food on the ground , well, i’ve been to approbation for a long time, they are ordinary, normal, tasty; during approbation you taste it literally a spoonful at a time, just a little bit at a time , yes , you can have half a jar with them if no one
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looks, i don’t think it’s some kind of myth that they are over-salted, no, they are normally not over-salted, but our colleagues have them all unsalted, that’s why we don’t have salt, we don’t have salt in our diet, there’s no salt in our diet . and the americans have it, yes, but they still keep the saline solution on board now, there’s always some, it’s really a liquid, salty, because you can’t pour it in, so you soak it in, american food, which seems tasteless to you if you salt it, and also - take some kind of spicy seasoning, for the sake of a dear soul, so i would i didn’t say that it wasn’t over-salted, i know for sure that there is food on airplanes, but it is over-salted , because it is believed that the taste qualities are at low pressure, and when the plane climbs to an altitude of 10-1200 m, they fall and so that the food remains tasty , it is over-salted, and any product is sweet, well, here’s dessert, it’s sweeter than on earth, in our country, first of all , we fight for proper nutrition, we
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won’t have anything over-salted or super-sweet, excursions come to me very often, i besides my main activity is also leading excursions to tspk, also just about nutrition, oh, many just people, so to speak from the street, complain that something is really very salty, very fatty, and these waters, so after all there is such a trend, it seems to me that after all it depends on the person, but that’s why i asked about sweets, because after all, most astronauts’ tastes change, that’s what they tried and chose for testing here on earth, after all, something there doesn’t seem so tasty to them anymore , as it turned out here, well, i have a different opinion, the taste doesn’t change, the food gets boring, yeah. we know that we have a sixteen-day diet, that is, every 16 days we open new three, sometimes four containers depending on the program, and the same set of products, there is a special hint - in each container, well, what to eat today for the first,
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tomorrow for the second , and so on , well, i don’t know that anyone adheres to it, you usually open it up, but doctors, what you want is what you eat, plus we have enough, very high-calorie food. based on more than 3,000, there is somewhere around 3,200, if you take it with bonuses, with all, yes, but it’s about 3,000, this is a sixteen-day diet, well, i don’t think that an astronaut needs exactly 3,000 calories on a normal day, without going out into the open air and so on, well, in any case , doctors are trying to monitor their health, by the way, what’s good this is all the food, you don’t have any preservatives, e-additives, what we are already accustomed to here on earth, the maximum is salt and citric acid, so we take great care of your health. and naturally, why do we have a sixteen-day diet, not eight, not ten, than - the less often you take out the containers, the more variety you will have, before there was a six-day diet, then it was increased each time, i think that the more days there are in the diet, the less often you
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will open the containers, so it seems to me , that this is precisely because all the time for 16 days we put the same containers with the same food again, then the food would not change the scoop, it seems to me that she simply overeats, having experience after the first flight, already when she was getting ready for second, except for the things you can take with you before one kilogram, if there is a truck, then the family can put 5 kg of things on board for you, well, which are allowed, of course, but i try to do it as much as possible, so that it is food, and food usually i tell my wife directly, you go to some department store - something large, but here are the seasonings, take everything one by one , we’ll load everything to us, there will definitely be that person who will like this particular seasoning. if the product is already boring and you don’t really want it, if you add a certain seasoning to it, it changes the taste, everything is fine, but the truck came to me literally before landing about a couple of weeks, i realized that i didn’t need a certificate, and i just asked for
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