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creative industry podcast in the studio roman karmanov, mediaman general director of the presidential fund for cultural initiatives and elena kiper, producer, legendary, author , songs, lyrics, our guest today is very interesting, dmitry bigbaev, a singer in the past, theater director, as well as an official, i’m not afraid this word, new playpen, well, this is very very important, a new playpen. the artlatform project and so on and anita tsoi, the famous singer, warm, today sunny-warm, sunny-warm, and also the head of the faculty of creative industries , and natist of russia, head of the department of the don state technical university, head of the department, that is, we are still on the way to the faculty, the head of the department, well, our viewers have already learned a lot of things just from

the performance, but in fact, why did we? we are here in this composition, why? that's why like anita and dmitry, they are directly related to the wonderful genre of musical. let's first, probably, about russia's necklace, yes, a few words , then oh, well, there's a lot, there's a solo 0.01, then black january, i wanted to talk about that somehow, too, first about this grandiose action , well, in principle , it’s no secret to anyone that already... our organization has been holding large festivals for many years. and last year, thanks to the support of the presidential fund and social initiatives , we were able to hold our ninth ceremony awards of the festival at the imin festival of russia. there were 328 winners. and we thought that it would be good

once again... to unite them all together in one beautiful, interesting, creative story, in order to please the audience, of course, with their wonderful creative achievements, we held... it’s called necklace of russia, where 328 of our winners each played their own role, this is a wonderful wonderful musical about our vast amazing homeland, about the multinational culture of our homeland, and moreover, the whole thing is tied up in in an ordinary city, in a large city, where so many people of different nationalities live, the whole festival is ethnography. with music, dances, rituals, where almost every region of ours was able to present itself in all its glory, that is , this is a great idea and we decided to continue it next year, although we already have a

lot of musicals, since in general it all started with the city rostov-nanu, and my music school has been operating there for many years, and when we were faced with the question, well, okay, training - this is one thing, but what about in practice? children still get some knowledge and skills, and we started writing original musicals for them, and we have a very interesting topic in musicals, because mentors and children perform on the same stage, it’s one thing to study with a mentor, these are all well-deserved with us teachers, masters of their craft, and stage people who have already proven their dedication to their work and great skills with many years of experience. but when they start going out with children and playing on the same stage, something amazing happens because they are excited themselves, like our kids, well, kids - of course, i said that’s cool, because the ages are different, from 3 years to 17 years, these are all the kids

who participate in these musicals, then their path goes to the festival, they they perform there, they are trying to get their first experience of such a competitive creative struggle, showing all the best that they have learned, now we have come to the next stage, to a very big one, to the creation of such large musicals as the necklace of russia, well, grandiose, the necklace russia, uh, the presidential fund helped cultural initiatives, it’s true, he helped, yes, the president helped, the president helped, no , really, we are very grateful, because in reality we used to carry out everything independently on our own, looked for opportunities and so on, but now, especially in these difficult times, it’s so important to have support nearby, we definitely do. with parents and teachers comes to the same opinion that it is better to let our children create , study, develop, move further than what, wander around the yards and absorb unknown information, as it seems to me,

this is a new genre, generally speaking, because i think that our viewers, they too, when they hear the word musical, they understand that it is light, something in a good sense, they get confused, in principle, here it is such a social musical, now i’ll throw the ball to dima with our aerial solo 01, black january, which means, well, the word 01 is the ministry of emergency situations, for example, this is a musical about - the guys, which means they are street kids there, in the end, through certain vicissitudes there, they came to the fact that they also want to be heroes, save people, and black january is young guard, this is an absolutely amazing story, this genre , how... it develops in our country or is it a common story, we just haven’t seen it in such numbers before, in fact , there have always been musical performances in our country, another question is that this is the division into musical opera, as elena correctly noted, this arose precisely during the soviet period

, we always had wonderful musical films, these are funny guys, this is a carnival night, another question is that it was very tough on the theatrical stage distinction, despite this, amazing things still arose... in the linkom theater you can still see the play staged by zakharov, juno and avos, music by rybnikov, but what is this not a musical, amazing work and it is clear that the genre itself, it it grew on such a large scale in the west due to, well , an outstanding, absolutely outstanding author, andrew lloyd weber, who simply gave such a scale of musical thought, such a scale of creative presentation, to this jean. that, of course, it was difficult to compete with him, of course, musicals are very expensive projects, as a rule, but it is clear that they penetrate a mass audience , it is clear to me as a theater person that we are theatergoers,

the loop-hook from step to step is very important to us, in a musical, in a large musical project you can to seriously declare about large, important socially significant issues, problems, and of course , if we talk, for example, about the solo 01 fiery project... this is my job, including as a director and as an author, and of course, our respected colleagues from the ministry of emergency situations patriotic education, because if we are not in in such a... understandable, accessible, musical form, song form, to convey, as it seems to us, the correct meanings to the children, of course, they will not know or perceive them, as for black january, it’s just our memory, well, here we are a performance took place in the moscow concert hall, a total of 7,400 schoolchildren , some of them heard for the first time that oleg koshevoy was such a person, about how the guys from krasnodon accomplished a feat, how they truly had their personal goals, which now.. .may be

prevailing in the general understanding of young people there guys, they put them in the background, because honor, homeland, this feeling that your life is special and a lot depends on you, they put them in the foreground, and of course, we talked and talk about these heroes , it sounds in the music, and when at the last show three times the stadium stood up during the action, but this, well , this is confirmation that after all... this form, it has an amazing effect, well, in general, the musical lives on and will live, and not only social, but different about love, thanks to the presidential fund cultural initiatives, which supports all this, and we are happy to try and do it well and efficiently, and so that our audience is happy in any genre that we take on, here’s a handsome guy, and here’s how such a transformation happened, from the singer, take katya, i am now looking at perfect voices. what kind of, yes, that is, here it is, of course, in fact

, it seems to me that the audience is wondering what kind of path this is laid, to this, uh, well, elen, you are involved in my transformation, like no one else, we and met you when i was just theater actor and you will be surprised, but i have this project, it became my first directorial experience, and this is really surprising, but this project, and your participation in my destiny, ultimately gave me the opportunity to feel like a director and work. with talented artists, young artists, what kind of artists we got together, yes, that is, this is loban, yes, the star of mkhaat chekhov, just for a minute, this is the winner of the adult voice dasha antonyuk, you found them, and we are with them worked, it’s happiness, they gave such artists, it’s only musical a performance can do this when the singers and actors are all together, so the fact that you are doing musicals with children reveals their abilities to the maximum, because in a musical you need to be able to do everything, dance and... sing, in general,

anita, uh, actually, when we were talking to you, not so long ago, i was surprised to discover that in addition to the fact that you are a wonderful singer, whom everyone knows very well, a people’s artist, and so on, you are also a public figure, and a person who is engaged in education, not in the sense of teaching to sing, in the sense of really teaching, everything that is included in this genre in general, creatively, in general, it’s amazing. but it turns out that with each project you have added responsibility, now you said 326 , 328, 328 and artists performed on stage, by the way, we registered records in the book of records for each, it turns out that you now bear responsibility, generally speaking, well, creative, of course, creative, mentoring, how to make sure that these 328 names are not lost in the end?

well, first of all, it is necessary, of course, of course, constantly come up with new projects, you need to promote them, move them and keep up with the times, for example, we are now talking about mentoring, now this is one of the most important interesting topics, before we were just involved in mentoring, we came up with such interesting content, yes, when teachers, pedagogues, together with children, perform on the same stage and share experiences with each other right here now, but now we have moved on, we are now working on a very interesting project, an inclusive creative laboratory... in which we will create a group of children with disabilities, there will also be children from our music school and teachers, so everyone together in one space will do everything that is necessary for the stage, including speech production, vocals, musical instruments, and so on and so on and so on, and in order to get the result and see how this experiment goes for us, we decided to create... on the same stage together with

teachers, our children from our music school, this group of children with disabilities, in order to to show that for creativity, boundaries have no limits at all, we decided to stage this musical on a thousandth floor in a large beautiful hall, you immediately use large forms, that is , as if nothing can be done, i direct my own big shows, i already have such gigantism, it's there in some ways, but it's an incredibly fun experience for kids. plus, despite the fact that we are also making this musical, we decided to shoot now, we are just on the threshold of everything that we have to do, we decided to shoot a film in parallel, a film about overcoming. how these kids come to us and start studying with everyone together , and what will be the result, and how will they feel in the future, the most interesting thing, in general, is that we have our own music school, and, accordingly, some opportunities

education, training, but we realized that children grow up, so we bring them to a certain point, and then, they say, where should we go next, and we spent 2 years in a technical university growing up under the department of media communications in order to to finally separate into your own this year department, many thanks to our rector, who allowed us to try to realize ourselves at a technical university. in fact, a very interesting topic is facing us, scientists and physicists have finally merged , so to speak, it still seems to me that the technicians do not understand exactly, but it is necessary, it is necessary, but at the same time, for example, they have it technologies that they teach their students, and this should not bypass us at all, since today all creative industries and all the collaboration that occurs within the merger, even the flow of one of another, yes, new technologies must definitely go through directly , this is how new copyrighted content is born, very

interesting, which will help all our students in the future plus acquire a profession, learn to make money, understand that... today they can become players in the market your own, and to manage your own life, your own destiny, you have touched on such an important topic now, because the creative industry is like a fantasy, an idea, and then you need people who are transform and materialize, that is, technical personnel, very often creators do not have a connection with these technical personnel who can embody, and the fact that such faculties, departments are growing on the basis of technical ones, i was recently in plikhananski. academy and there, too, a faculty of creative industries was opened, because there is a creative economy, and at the same time there is everything, and the transformation of creative ideas into business, into results, into results that bring new means, new movements, and considerable funds to the economy, and quite a lot,

hello everyone, my name is nastya zadorozhnaya, i love dogs very much, i decided to change my life, instead of... in the profession of an actress, i chose volunteering. she is incredibly helpful in raising my kids. what we had without dogs and what we have now are two different lives. since i have a dog, i feel more strongly that i am human. well, this is a wonderful dog, which has already saved two human lives. it's not just a pet, it's that creature. who accompanies you everywhere. dogs love us, dogs change us, dogs teach us, dogs save us. dogs are a whole world, a world in which

there is one important rule: to always be close. season premiere to be close. coming soon, on the first one. well, south korea, which anita and i generally appreciate, some examples are generally positive, yes, that’s exactly it, we talked to one science fiction writer, he said that he has one universe that he came up with, by the way, in lukyanenko’s draft, in which there is no oil and gas, this is what, strictly speaking, people can do, this happened in south korea, and the creative economy took off there , well, that is, people need... something, they realized that in fact money is in people, in creative people, and there is just everything connected with creativity and is encouraged, in principle it gives its results , in fact, i started talking about the fact that i myself am the director of my shows, these shows, thank god in the country, are the best, we received a lot of awards, for them not with

point of view of exactly what was happening on the stage directly, precisely for the new technical achievements on the stage, that is, we are always at some kind of innovation , and they are born, for example, new ideas of a technical nature from fantasy, creative imagination, that is, you want, for example, to immerse your viewer in a certain environment, and you begin to create, you come to a person who has the necessary tool, skill, technique, and you tell him what you want , he can do it for you, he says, yes, there is nothing like this in the world, why do you even need this, and then in the process it turns out, here we are literally now we passed a new program, and there we made, well... a new technological discovery , which we patented wonderfully, it’s just that no one had thought of doing it before, and we are very happy and excited, because that’s when an idea begins to flow, something... creatively interesting , then the technical forces are tightened up, but we, relying on their capabilities, begin to come up with much

more, this is what i want to teach students, for example, of our department, so that they look more broadly, not only as the ability to control their vocals, for example, or acting skill or their body, and in the art of choreography, but so that they look at it much more broadly, that they can become creators of their own content, unlike anyone else, and maybe even patent new technologies, and i would continue my world, because that in the end, by creating our fantasy, positive content, we saturate everything in this way , with this creativity and immerse a large audience in it, who thereby begin to live with us, this is a big role, very selfless, just great, no need to no, let's not, let's do it anyway, but i just caught myself thinking when i looked. black january, when i cried there for the fifth time, in general, i thought, well, these are the strongest, strongest emotions , i’m experiencing now, but i’m here in the hall, in

a new arena in this case, and i have such happiness to be there , yes, i see, i came, i look, i experience these emotions, but we actually have a huge country, when all this reaches the wide viewer, this is what you are doing, whether you see these points yourself or not, the first thing is of course you can broadcasting any cultural product is also a separate type of art. how to convey to those who are not in the hall all these emotions that are here now, and there may even be a little more color there, because you can show a close-up of the main character with a tear rolling down her cheek, this also affects those who is watching, the second segment is probably also important, what anita is talking about is involving people, because you can’t just force people to grow by example, they must be involved in the process, inside the process, there they are already training, developing and so on, something that is not very much now and something that is now a little lacking, it seems to me that it makes sense to pay attention to this, this is correct management,

i don’t like the word manager, because manager - this is mandatory, some kind of profit, obligatory, there is nothing bad in it, you can and should earn money, but still management is broader, it is sometimes an absolutely selfless sacrifice of everything you have - health and strength, time , in general, with management in the field of culture so far... everything is not very correct, especially in the regions, if moscow, represented by the government , has accepted responsibility ; it generates processes as much as possible at the expense of its various departments, and we see all this, then in the regions, of course, the agenda is different, i really want them to amazing specialists who arise thanks to projects as units, so that they are useful on the ground and feel there that their potential will be revealed, this is the most, most important thing, that is , to provide the basis for... everything to be realized, by the way, if we are now we are talking about this, yes, it’s a good story, we will now be celebrating next year, or rather this year, the tenth anniversary of our

festival in russia, and we thought, we usually hold it in different cities, usually it’s about thirty cities in russia, where we go out, look at the teams, look at the children and select the best, and then bring them to the semi-finals , finals, this year we discovered a unique opportunity for ourselves, it exists, and again we have... excuse me, they are called clusters, if i'm correct i remembered russia is my history, they are open in 23 cities, our vastness, an amazing space with magnificent concert venues, with amazing technical equipment, that is, we have now decided to hold our tenth qualifying rounds there, why are we going, well, of course, children perform, children fight for the title of first, best. but in parallel with this , they have their own ethnographic tourism, they study, firstly, the

region in which they are located, plus, they study new technological possibilities, then yes, can you imagine, our kids come, they go onto the floor, for example, with a video screen space, they put a leg, and from there butterflies fly out, or some flowers, yes, that is, it all starts to work completely differently, they end up in some kind of an interesting fairy tale, in a certain world, they understand that there is actually a lot of this world, you just need to be able to accurately place the rap points to get there, that is - it seems to me that this is wonderful, a completely plus - in the same way i was raised, so i don’t just like loud words about patriotism, that is, when everything is done in an exaggerated manner or they say, there’s a difference, let’s write a patriotic song, it doesn’t work for me, for me patriotism is a little different, it’s calmer. it’s warmer, it’s more familiar, when , for example, an older brother who studies there at our university takes his little sister,

who studies at our music school, by the hand, they go out on stage together... they sing together to their parents who are sitting in hall, and those are rooting for them, this is the first, most important thing in in the word patriotism, connection above all, love, such genuine, real love for your family, loved ones, for your land, for your home, for the stage on which you stand, in the kindergarten you go to, in the school you attend, yes, this is where it all starts, and when our children, we are simply infected with this project, when they will come to these regions. and they will see how wonderful our country really is, and there are such wonderful places, not only in the center, in moscow or st. petersburg, i think that they have pride in their country, whether you want it or not , it will appear by itself, grow, because they are really involved in it, they are not in the center, somewhere there, they are at home, in their region, in their edge, that is, this is the story

i wanted to share with you, i discovered you for myself today. well, for me you, since we never knew each other, somehow didn’t collide, but what you say is such a missionary story in general, what you do, and by the way, to roman, i parry about this, it means , about that, and how will this come out big, that is, in fact, if this is made a trend and if trends change, that is, from the trend to earn money in any way and still create a creative economy based on great meanings, this is completely different and this should be done. exciting, because it’s really exciting, because it can’t help but capture , because what you’re doing, dmitry, you just seem like it’s something pro-state, in fact, you say, patriotism is through that the most impact of content is through joining those heroes whom you bring out and involve in these processes, the rest follow them. on air from

the creative industry, a podcast hosted by elena kiper, roman and i. karmanova and our guest is dmitry bigbaev and they are tsoi, but you know what question, people are watching us now and saying, well, well, smart and beautiful people, in general they seem to be talented , are sitting, in general about beautiful sublime things and even in general, with benefit, apparently they reason, but in general we look at all this and think, how can we get involved in it in general, how can we this is a holiday of creativity and in general ourselves, how to get there, how to get there, this is the most important thing, in fact, for example, we with our team don’t wait for people to come to us, we go ourselves, that is, we have been imprisoned for a few years ago and started collecting bigdat for all creative groups, interesting teachers and so on, throughout our entire russia today, but i can boast a little, even the ministry of culture does not have the same data as we do, we, of course, tried very hard,

always when our activities begin festivals or competitions, we make sure to notify everyone, we personally went with the sit-down, so wait, you have a database of whom , what kind of people are these, these are all cultural centers, all the theaters where our audience is involved, this is childhood, youth, everything, everything, everything, everything is on the territory of russia and whoever wants it, they always take part with great pleasure when you charge this machine of yours, fantastic, these are suppliers of talented personnel, because this is the first filter through, as if we will put it with and honest we will for this in order to find a truly talented person, not just a talented person, but a ready, efficient, willing person to serve the stage, let’s assume, yes , you have to try, you have to dig through very, very many thousands of people, it’s true, sometimes it happens, a person is incredibly talented, he comes out and we see that we have real talent in front of us, he is not afraid of the stage, he

behaves amazingly, he recites, i am amazed. years old, he just holds all the jury members like this, sorry, we’re just delighted, but it turns out that’s because it’s for him given by nature, he doesn’t even want to push himself even a little bit and learn something more than what he has today, and we also encounter this when we talk with our parents, but we would love to, but he doesn’t want to, things like this happen, so this is the most painstaking task. today, for example, i am very grateful to everyone who took part in the russian necklace, because these are very talented, good children, and i think that they can turn out to be, well, at least one two three, we will find who wants really really move on, but the stage is not an easy job , it’s very hard, it’s very difficult, it will be wonderful, but we don’t forget about those who are nearby, because there are children

who really really want to, but not everyone can be a great artist. right, here we are looking at you, i think you didn’t need to be an artist, but if you hadn’t been an artist before, you probably wouldn’t have found out how you managed to work as an insider, i don’t need to explain how to do it right now wires in the backstage, i'm done i know very well, you understand, but we just came up with a story for these kids , because again, you can come to our departments to study and work within our entire big beautiful system, you can master management, you can master pr, gr , you can master everything , whatever you want, but work side by side, because not everyone is ready to go on stage, not everyone has such a gift , the most important thing is that, generally speaking, there is such a specialty at the technical university, this means that the guys there will have both hemispheres working, as you know, yes, because one thing is responsible for creativity, technically and another, that’s how a harmonious nation arises, if

both are present in general and harmoniously, well, here’s a really very important question about those who, yes, there are geniuses, there are super talented, but in general there are many more of us, those who love to sing, as one of my friends says, you sing well loudly, so... when he made me an offer, well , that is, not to marry, to go to his university from our music school , i tell him, listen, why do you need us there? there are only technicians there, i don’t know, you are involved in agriculture, you are involved in some kind of oil industry, and we have nothing to do with it, and he says, but no, you know, i have to honestly tell you, not all of us have excellent students, there are c students and d students, but they all sing well, that is, they made

our song their unspoken anthem, in fact, mchsa are harsh people, you understand, they actually have such a stable expression, the song helps you build and live, that’s how it is, and it doesn’t matter whether you sing this song or just this song arose somewhere around you in your life , but the song and i will wake up and move. further in life, everything will really be different, the main thing is that the songs are good, and here, as it seems to me, mm, we have a lot of people who sing really very well, but there aren’t very many artists, so try them look for it, and these are two different talents, uh, to be a wonderful artist and to build a career for yourself, because to build a career for yourself, they have a voice, but they don’t always have a voice, they don’t always have it, but they have it something more that will later make you remember for centuries , that’s what it seems to me, the best confirmation that we didn’t work in vain is the participation of our children, in the sense of participants, we also gathered them in different cities, so find here these children who not only sing well, but who have something more that they can say

with their inner world, share with this, this is very difficult, and this is really a lot of work, and it’s nice, by the way, to watch with yours, when yours arises the child you grew up, grew up, grew up, now he’s in the leading role, he’s already participating in elena kiper’s project, this is happiness, but there’s still room for improvement of this genre, of course, because well, there’s also, well, the need to improve this genre, i’m somewhat i’ve been to other countries, watched musicals, king leveld, these are magnificent productions , excellent authors, scenography, of course, has been developed for years... when the director stages it completely differently from the theater, and not like the theater director who

perform performances, and when it is synchronized, when it has a rhythmic school, yes , such questions arise here, very often, i don’t want to say anything, because i myself am faced with the production of musicals, i am looking for directors so that they match as closely as possible genre, but since we don’t have such a musical school, there isn’t the most ... you correctly noted the industry, you just need a little more time, and of course, any industry means money too, that is, any scientific breakthrough, there’s a huge number of works and the money that this scientific breakthrough provides, i think that now everything is going quite well for us, and as for talents, russia is really, well , capable of inventing, inventing, creating, it is important that the industry is properly organized so that these talented people. .. people here felt that they needed to have the opportunity to be realized, and there should be works of art filled with