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leave me. hello, i'm pilot cosmonaut anton shkaplerov, this is a podcast about space stories. today my guest is anna toshcheva, an employee of the cosmonaut training center and a specialist in space nutrition. anna, you have been working at the cosmonaut training center for a long time, you are an experienced employee, tell us what you do there? well, for the last 3 years i have been training cosmonauts and astronauts in support systems life activity of the russian segment of the iss. actually. my laboratory is engaged in training on these systems, these systems include oxygen supply systems, atmosphere purification systems, water supply systems, as well as food supply systems, among others. in fact, we train cosmonauts and

astronauts on how to use these systems on board the russian segment and how to maintain them correctly and routinely. how did you even get into the space industry ? was it a childhood dream, or somehow by accident? it turned out, i think i had no choice, because i was already born in star city , when there was a military unit, my dad, being a lieutenant, came to star city, in fact, i was already born in star city and graduated from a school named after cosmonaut pilot vladimir mikhailovich komarov , so i think that one way or another, my whole life from the moment of birth led me into this industry, well , in fact, i ended up in the cosmonaut training center, that is, from school you were already prepared to work in ros-space, well, practically, you can say so, anna, let's talk about the most pleasant thing that astronauts know, this is about space nutrition, on earth, and i am often asked about this, how do astronauts eat and do they even eat from tubes, nif they really eat from the tubes, well, more precisely, they ate, the first cosmonauts actually

received food packaged in the form, just not of tubes, but of blunts, it looked about professional, if we speak in professional language, these are not tubes of toothpaste - these are tubes of food, yes, well, that’s actually how these tubes look now, for now. yes, they still exist , at the moment there is mustard, honey, seasonings, but these are the things we now have in these tubes, at the dawn of astronautics, in fact, starting with yuri alekseevich gagarin, and indeed the cosmonauts ate from stupid, well, for the simple reason that at first it was not clear how the digestive organs would work in conditions of weightlessness, how they would absorb useful microelements from food, that’s why, in fact, we primarily need food and needed. therefore, it was decided that it was necessary to puree the food so that it would be much lighter, easier to pass through the organs of the digestive system, and the tubes were convenient because they were quite light packaging, and most importantly, by twisting the tube, you might not finish it completely, but

you could conditionally close, twist and put aside then and begin the process of absorbing food again, that is, in this regard, in all respects, the oak was really very convenient, but the first cosmonauts had not yet warmed it. what they sent them in tubes, and there was just borscht and feasted meat, here, but at first it was all cold, only at the unions the first food warmers appeared, so that the astronaut had the opportunity to consume hot food, that is, at the unions there was already a food warmer, already at the union, yes, at union nine, the first food warmer appeared, that is, but at the same time they still ate from a tube, yes they were, mostly they were tubes, then in the process, little by little, the packaging of cosmic food began to evolve in fact... what we have come to now, this this is an almost complete refusal to eat, as i said, only mustard, honey and all sorts of seasonings, now mainly main courses, appetizers, some desserts, the astronauts have it in this form, in the form of a tin

can, they come in different types, here we have a large tin can, 250 g, yes, there are small jars of 100 g . now there are new ones, anton, you probably haven’t seen them yet, slightly thinner jars in which fish... canned food is now stored, well although it may already be so, well, actually, in order for such a jar to be eaten , yes, of course, you can open it enough , everything is already ready there, you don’t need to cook anything, open it and eat it with a fork, but still, if it’s some kind of ... either a meat product, a second course, or of course, but it’s more pleasant to eat it hot , so the cosmonauts on the star module , the service module have a special chair for eating, in which electric heaters are installed, into this electric heater they insert... five of them there fits, cover the electric heater is closed, the button is pressed and after half an hour, the contents of the jar will be heated to 65°, now it’s ready for use, in addition it’s hot and

tasty, that’s what concerns jars, and space bread is also inserted into the electric food warmer, which is also quite a popular thing , and what is so interesting about this bread, that this is how it looks, it is somewhat similar to these chocolates, which are divided into squares in the same way, there are several cubes, in my opinion, 10 pieces, yes, there are absolutely probably size 10 centimeter, yes, yes, yes, absolutely, why is this, this is done so that... as they say, one cube per bite, because any crumb that flies away in zero gravity can get into the respiratory tract, can get into eyes, there is nothing pleasant, god forbid, it will be painful, unpleasant, so they are actually trying, well, at least there will be no garbage, yes, they are trying to get rid of crumbs at the station, and also to minimize the amount of garbage that flies around the astronauts, bread too heated, well i guess every housewife on earth knows that if bread has been lying around since yesterday, put it in the microwave for 10 seconds, it will become

soft and fluffy. here the same principle, four pieces of bread are also installed in the electric heater, they are heated together with the jars, and the result is such a delicious soft bread, and the bread comes in different types, in this case we have table bread, sometimes borodino bread, in fact, our foreign colleagues really like bordinsky , a lot, a lot, a lot of different types of bread depending on what kind of bread in fact, cosmonauts prefer this kind of bread and also very tasty honey mats in the same form, also ours... like a dessert, well, this is one part of the types of food products and another cluster now occupies just what has come to replace these the most stupid, this is freeze-dried food in this form, that is, now soups, some main courses, salads, everything in this form, this is the kind of kharcho soup we get here, and the form is such a rather strong cracker, but in fact, there

is real kharcho soup here, yes, absolutely right, this plant has a separate line for the production of space food, which is what makes these products unique , well, if so, in short, the cooks are standing there, cooking large vats of that same borscht or kharcho soup, then this soup, already completely prepared , is frozen and sent to a vacuum . and are slowly heated, so we have water from a solid state, from an ice state , immediately passes into a gaseous state, bypassing the liquid phase, it turns out that water droplets, water molecules leave each pore of the product, absolutely every one, and then it’s all packaged in briquettes and in vacuum packaging, the advantage of such packaging is that under vacuum we have no access to oxygen, there is absolutely no water in the product, it does not spoil at all.

in this form, but there is an expiration date, there is an expiration date, yes, now we’ll talk about it, yes, but what i mean is that in this form it will actually be stored for many, many years, but the expiration date is yes, as you pointed out yes, it is indicated on each product, but this is the expiration date for delivery on board and, as it were, presumably, so that this product has time to arrive on board, that is, how old is khortsa soup? this one is from the nineteenth year, and when the expiration date expires, it can be stored for 2 years and the expiration date is past the nineteenth year. i brought it here overdue, well, i hope we don’t get to the point of eating it today, although it’s not evening yet, i mean, it’s also a big plus that this packaging is becoming lighter, yes, that’s what i just wanted to say, in what is the advantage, yes, not only does nothing get in here that could spoil the product, but this packaging is also lightweight, the mass is much lighter than the same tubes, in terms of volume, and for this, everything is very important when delivering the kit, of course, very important, but well... actually, so that the astronaut

can consume this soup, kharcho, without gnawing on it in the form of a cracker, and eat it like soup, as we are used to, and the packaging has special , uh, special places at both ends, which means that from this end the packaging - for the astronauts - is cut along the colored line and with this dovetail it is pulled onto the fitting special system for the distribution block heating, from which water will flow. on each package it is written how much water specifically for this product is needed so that it is restored to the consistency that ultimately water and cold and hot cooks, yes, but basically, when we season soups, of course we want to season it with hot water, i think it says on the packaging how long it will take for this product to be restored, in this case , 15 minutes will be enough for us, our soup will be ready, as soon as our soup is ready, we

still keep it like this... a boot, warm clothes, yes, yes, unteata, after we refuel, we put more in there so that it lasts even longer, so that it nourishes more, because if there is meat, it absorbs water very poorly and becomes hard, so we still have it there, even though we have cooks no, but we ourselves, like space chefs, prepare what doesn’t work out, well, of course, no one can talk about this topic better than astronauts, so , well, if we’re talking about first courses, then in order to consume the soup from this package, you don’t need it pour out. glass, we just turn the package over with the other end, and here, if you make an incision, a tube will come out, and actually from the tube it is very convenient to consume this product, in this form, like i said... soups, there are main courses, it won’t be here anymore this tube at the end, that is, after filling, after restoration, you will need to cut it, in fact, it’s convenient to just eat spoons or squeeze it out, yes, as for drinks, drinks are also available in freeze-dried form, these are

juices, jelly, and milk is freeze-dried, well, if we are talking about tea and coffee, then in this form, bagged, bagged, yes, an absolutely ordinary bag, everyone’s usual bag with... if it ’s tea with sugar, then there will also be a spoonful of sugar poured in here there, i also didn’t understand why there was a package in a bag, well, that’s how they came up with it, and in general the cosmonauts have very tasty cocoa, i tried it not so long ago, incredibly tasty cocoa, which is natural, like basically one package, but you get two, yes hits two, two hits that some marriage, but we like it, you are happy, yes, that well, no, everything is relative , thank god, there is enough drinks, tea, on the contrary , we have a lot of food, we have food in reserve, that is, even if god forbid the truck does not come, but i think we’ll still live for about three months on the supplies that we have, they deliver special food to you with a reserve, plus the food that is delivered with each truck in the form of fresh vegetables and fruits, yes, these are bonuses, although we have a bonus containers, these are

containers, bonus we still call foreign food, that is, this is what we we chose after, testing food at nasa, before it was possible to take half of the products from nasa, from russia, somehow mixing this for six months was normal, now we only have bonus containers, that is, maybe for an expedition, i don’t know two, three, four, i recently prepared astronauts for a flight, they also complain that they are given very little russian food now, so i think it’s on both sides, well, in any case, we have an exchange, i know they really like cottage cheese, our colleagues, here we are talking. bread, for example black borodinsky, and the guys are happy to ask what you can exchange for, and bring what you like from the diet , american cuisine, and we calmly exchange, but most of all we eat food together when we

get together on friday or saturday, or in the russian segment and in the american segment, that is, if they come to visit us, we stock up, well, there are two heaters, yes, that is, we stock up everything with jars, cook, well, sometimes you ask what they prefer from russian food, that is, we do it we prepare, we invite you to visit us, everyone gathers around the table, discusses the news, well, just how the week went, we consume russian food , the next day on saturday, according to tradition, we go to the american segment, they are already preparing for us something tasty from the american diet, sweets , which ones did you like the most, oh, well, i’m not interested in sweets at all, i don’t like them, that’s why? i didn’t care what they had, what we had, i always gave it to everyone, neither on earth, nor in space, nowhere, nowhere, yes, although we the support group is trying to pass on, i don’t know, some tasty treats , chocolates, sweets, marshmallows, our colleagues really love them, in america there is no marshmallow, but it turns out to be very tasty, many cosmonauts said

that if they don’t eat sweets on earth, well, in principle, he’s somehow indifferent, but up there on the iss you really really want sweets, apparently the receptors still require like... some new sensations, so i’m interested, anna, we discussed our food, but still looked, yes, well, it’s still possible just if about sweets, here are sticks with prunes, and fruit sticks, i’m pilot cosmonaut anton shkaplerov, this is a space stories podcast, we continue the conversation with anna tocheva about space nutrition, how to deal with american food, it’s the same type in general packaging and the cooking methods are the same. but of course, american food , it gives preference to the food that americans eat in their homeland, that is, for example, barbecue sauce, as far as i understand, this is quite common there, we have it on board for example, no and somehow i don’t use it, but there are no burgers, well, yes, there are pieces of meat, just steaks, they say steaks, yes, they really

are soaked in this barbecue sauce, there are other sauces, but i prefer not this sweet barbecue, and where there is more spicy food, more where... and in general the trends are the same as ours in terms of packaging, at least in production, almost everything is the same too, that is, they have the same water dispenser, i remember my first times, when it seemed to be shown on earth that this was not it’s difficult, in zero gravity there are difficulties, you can’t hold on with your hand, you have to hold the bag with one hand, open the valve with the other and only hold on with your feet, without having the experience of holding on to the handrails, you slip, continue pouring hot water, it all spilled, everything there- after all, 85°, this can be done very well, so there were difficulties in learning, well, over time, yes, we learned how to open cans, after that it must be... made flat so that it reduces the volume during disposal, so that the volume is as small as possible, then what remains

after our life activity, well, like any garbage , we try to minimize it, and it is definitely very important to finish everything from the jar to the end, because if suddenly it starts to deteriorate and gas, after all, the garbage will lie on progress for six months until the progress is undocking, in fact we also teach astronauts, we try to pass on to them the experience of our senior colleagues, young cosmonauts who are just getting ready to set out on their... journey, in fact, this is exactly what we are doing, and we are telling them how they can exchange all this at the station, because, but i also do this all the time, it’s one thing to order more on the ground, but it doesn’t come in sufficient quantities, but knowing the preference for the crew, for example, i flew with an italian, samata christofeiti, so it was definitely for her i remember borodino bread, for the sake of borodino bread she can give everything she has, here is donpet, by the way, who is going again. yes, but there was preparation, now the preparation is taking place in the star city, i flew with him,

so he was a lover of cottage cheese, and he exchanging for any piece of meat, what i always preferred, without any problems, i collected cottage cheese , he not only prepared it, he also placed it in the refrigerator in the evening so that he could eat it cold in the morning, that is, he is such a real gourmet in this matter, that’s why yes, mile barrett told me how he once cleaned my toilet in turn, for that... for a reason, so, yes, they also have their own stories, they also sometimes share with us, you know, such a taste, well people could also do this for food, interesting, yes, but as i understand it, many crews have already differed in that they prepared the food themselves on board, so i heard that pizza was prepared on board, rolls were rolled, yes, in my opinion, just this year they made an easter cake from cookies and alekh artemyev definitely made condensed milk cookies, why -that is... it’s a myth that canned food is over-salted, well, they really are quite salty, if you eat a lot of canned food -

i’ve been to approbation many times, they are ordinary, normal, tasty; during approbation you taste it literally spoonfuls at a time, just a little bit at a time, yes maybe half a jar if no one, if no one looks, but no, i think it’s some kind of myth that they are over-salted, no, they are fine , they are not over-salted, but our colleagues have them, they are all unsalted, that’s why we don’t have salt, we don’t have salt in our diet . there is no salt in the diet, but the americans have it, yes, but the saline solution is still on board now, about, as i understand it, this is american, it really is a liquid, salty, because you can’t pour it in, so you soak it in american food, which seems tasteless to you if you salt it, and also take some kind of seasoning spicy, he would die for his dear soul, so uh, i wouldn’t say that it’s not over-salted, i know for sure that the food on planes is, yes, it’s over-salted. because it is believed that taste qualities are at low pressure, and when the plane gains altitude there, 10-12,000 m, they fall and in order for the food to remain tasty,

it is over-salted, and any product is sweet, well, dessert, it is sweeter than on earth, first of all, we are fighting for proper nutrition, we won’t have anything too salty or super sweet, i get excursions very often, in addition to my main activity, i also i lead excursions to the cpc, and just like that, a lot of just people, so to speak from the street, complain that something is really very salty, very fatty, and these waters, so after all, there is such a tendency, it seems to me that everything... it depends on the person, but why did i ask about sweets, because after all, most astronauts’ tastes change, that’s what they tried and chose for testing here on earth, after all , something there doesn’t seem so tasty to them anymore , as it turned out here, well, i have a different opinion, the taste doesn’t change, the food is... we we know that we have a sixteen-day diet, that is, every 6 days we open three new ones, sometimes four containers

depending on the program, the same set of products, there is a special hint in each container, well, what to eat today for the first, tomorrow for the second , and so on, well, i don’t know that anyone adheres to it, usually you open what you want, then you eat, plus we have enough, very high-calorie food with an estimate of more than 3,000, there’s somewhere around 3,200, if you take with bonuses, with everyone, yes, but so about 3,000 - this is a sixteen-day diet, well, i don’t think that an astronaut needs exactly 3,000 calories on a normal day without going out into the open air and so on, well, in any case, doctors are trying to monitor their health, by the way, what’s good about this one ? all the food, you don’t have any preservatives, food additives, what we are already accustomed to here on earth, the maximum is salt and citric acid, so yours is great. why exactly do we have a sixteen-day diet, not eight, not ten, the less often you eat

take out containers, the more variety you will have, previously there was a six-day ration. at the same time, i think that the more days there are in the diet, the less often you will open the containers, so it seems to me that this is precisely because all the time for 16 days we put the same containers again with the same food, then the food does not change in taste, it seems to me that she simply overeats, having experience after the first flight already when she was getting ready for the second, except for the things that you can take with you up to one kilogram, if you go truck, then the family... maybe you can put 5 kg of things on board, well, which is allowed naturally, but i try to do it as much as possible, so that it is food, and i usually tell my wife directly about food, you go to some large university , yes, here are the seasonings, take everything one by one and load everything to us, there will definitely be that person who will like this particular seasoning, if the product has already become boring and you don’t really want it, if you add a certain seasoning to it, it changes

the taste, everything is fine, but the truck came to me literally before landing somewhere... in a couple of weeks, i realized that i didn’t need seasoning juice, and i asked for just ordinary juice, which does not need to be diluted, which, as we drink on earth, well, some good company, where there are no food additives, and i 5 kg, 5 liters of juice arrived, they drank with such pleasure, in six months i forgot how you can drink regular juice, anna, or maybe you heard something else so interesting that relatives passed on to the astronauts on board, from food, namely from food, yes, what about? i probably don’t remember anything interesting right now, mostly marshmallows, candy, but sausage, perhaps, yes, if, that is, we have one problem, there is progress in the cargo ship, there is no refrigerator, so if you bring sausage that does not need to be stored in the refrigerator, they may miss it, and there are such hunting sausages , here the support group reports, well, that means the cosmonauts are simply hiding all this from the cameras so that we don’t

see it in the videos they send us, no, everything is official, it’s definitely official, it’s like this. with caviar, yes, they don’t deliver red caviar to us, because red caviar must be stored in the refrigerator, and black caviar, please, for the new year, eat it with pleasure, i honestly haven’t eaten as much black caviar on earth as i ate in space, and i still come across international crews all the time, foreigners, they don’t eat it at all, that is, they as a product they don’t consider it, black caviar, as some kind of delicacy, so i’m like, well, okay guys, you won’t, no, well, everything, as i once suggested, is wonderful, you’ve heard about which astronauts ask for the first thing to eat after plantings, specifically, i heard apples, now i don’t remember which one cosmonauts, but he wanted green apples, so they brought specially green apples for him, and he was right there on landing, in this blanket, sitting, eating, crunching on this apple, so i’ll tell you exactly how this happens, until recently , the head

of the otspk at the landing site was geordivich malikov, and so he always, approximately 2 days before landing , already in kazakhstan, contacted the flight as required by work and reminded them of the actions after the opening of the parachute, after landing, and how communication would be carried out with him, because he is in contact already when we are on the ground, before they got us , well, he just reminds how this will happen, so he always asks the crew what would you like, this is the first thing to try, but honestly, i never asked him for apples. i remember exactly, he came to me with cherries, he found cherries, the doctors didn’t let him in at first, then they forced him to tear him off from each berry, stalk, stalk, i remember they brought me such a plate, i really wanted to eat cherries, i had time, well, i i don't know, little things eat five or seven, then they took her away somewhere, started taking her blood pressure, then when i asked, they said no, no, that’s enough, that’s enough for you

, in short, then the girls, the nurses who accompanied me on the helicopter, they honestly... you know, they ate it themselves, everyone wanted cherries, yes, the last one, i remember, in my opinion, asked for an orange, well, i remember, romanenka, when they asked him what you want, he said, yes, nothing, but he landed in winter, there was snow, and he said, but i want green grass, so sergei georgivich was not lazy, went to the construction store, bought this artificial grass , a piece, i don’t know, about two meters long, when they sat him down on a chair, he spread it in front of him, he said, did you ask for it? please, grass, grass, grass, grass near the house, yes, i am a cosmonaut pilot , anton shkaplerov, this is a podcast of space stories, we are still talking about space food with anna tocheva, but are there any products that are prohibited, it’s difficult to say, they are directly prohibited , yes, we talked about the fact that products that cannot be stored in the absence of a refrigerator are not allowed,

well, we definitely teach astronauts how to determine whether a product is suitable for consumption or not, that is... if the can is swollen, if traces of corrosion appear somewhere, if you feel that the taste of the food from the can has changed, then it is accordingly better not to consume it , or as for sublimates, if the packaging is suddenly torn somewhere. the packaging has deteriorated, then accordingly they don’t eat such food, everything else is only what is allowed on the ground, what has already been allowed on the ground will be allowed on board, but now to the point that they deliver sauces like this industrial production on board, not just the sauce, we were just talking about new cans , this is industrial production, they don’t make beryl anymore, i don’t remember the astrakhan plant, the mechurinsky plant makes it, yes, and the michurinsky plant does it too, but i have fish ones, they very tasty and they make something, they made something from vegetables, very tasty, they also have such packaging, they have served agurs and hot peppers, we really move on smoothly, well, they deliver

industrially produced products to us, that is, those that are usually sold to the store, the only thing is, as far as i know, there must be some famous one, they buy a batch there directly, check everything, if it’s good , it delivers, the product is good packaging, it’s all very complicated, seriously, and it’s not so easy to get there, well, by the way, these packages, the so-called pouches, the mechurinsky plant is in them, it’s like such a new word in packaging, we expect that little by little there will be a transition from these heavy tin cans, just to these falted pouches, just to reduce the volume, mass, weight for delivery on board, in general , they seem to store the same amount and take up the same volume in terms of net weight, so well, thanks to our colleagues, we can eat ice cream, because the dragon ship has a refrigerator, and when it arrives, a sufficient amount

of ice cream arrives, they like our friends, after all, cosmic brothers and sisters, on weekends when we get together, if there is still one, they will definitely take it and share it with us, so this is also such an unforgettable taste of ice cream, i eat a little ice cream on earth, but there i remember for sure that i really wanted it, i don’t know why, maybe because there was so little of this particular cold food, and ice cream somehow removed, i don’t know, my thirst, and in general it’s usually a little hotter at the station than i wanted , so i want ice cream, well, i know for sure that alcohol is prohibited, and since we were talking about chocolate, here’s the last flight, my family gave me a box of chocolates for the new year, and it was directly written there, there was a whole package to open... there on december 31st, december 31st i opened the package, saw chocolate, strange, thought maybe my wife gave it to my colleagues to treat them, but then, when we contacted her, literally there a few hours before the new

year, she said, well, basically, you have a bonus today, we gave you candy, which contains some kind of alcohol, i don’t know why they let me in, maybe they trusted me as an experienced cosmonaut, and i celebrated the new year with alcohol, even if it was a little candy. i had a couple of drops of alcohol, but that was it, but it was still nice to care, but it was just nice, i didn’t i know, more of course, morally you are somehow here you are, there was just a video conference, and the family was sitting at the table with our relatives, friends, they were celebrating the new year at our house, they were with glasses of champagne, i was with these glasses from chocolates, well, it’s always nice to take care of this, and in general, chocolate, of course, is delivered without problems, well, chocolate is stored for a long time, okay, right? have you tried the space one yourself? yes, of course, but how do you do it? where do you get it from? this one is expired, or what? yes no, of course, not expired, but food rations are specially delivered to us

so that we train astronauts for examination training for practical classes and astronauts, but what are you teaching us there? well, don’t remember not to eat, don’t eat, of course, no, that’s right, heat up food, yes, how to correctly identify a food product, but about that block, heating distribution, which supplies water to sublimates, it’s not just a block, not just a kettle with hot water, it’s a whole system, but you can mix it up or forget to close it, yes, yes, yes, then there is such a bubble of hot water, and where to put it, that’s why one way or another we are trying to transfer this skill to new cosmonauts, so that they feel comfortable on board when they get into the module, they understand where they are, for this, we actually have a complex simulators of the russian segment, where the interior completely replicates the interior of the iss, that’s why the cosmonauts come as if at home, warm up their food, they already know how to do all this, everywhere they’ve already been taught there are actually no problems with this, but as i said,

power supply systems are only small part of the general life support systems, this system from which water is supplied to the sublimate is a system for regenerating water from atmospheric moisture condensate, we also teach it to work, that is, all the hot water that enters the sublimate, with the help of which you prepare these sublimates, this is water, which actually resulted from the fact that a person is on board, is simply added, well, ideally it would be just this way, so that only this water would be there. if there was enough of it, but as i understand it, ordinary people can also buy this food, yes of course, well, where are these stalls, stalls, yes, well, in our training center, in our cosmonaut training center, there is definitely such a stall in the building of the second directorate, cosmonaut registration, star city, they wrote it down, yes, so if they come to us people with a tour, then they can accordingly purchase these products, and the berilevsky plant also has its own online store, that is

, in fact, any person. purchase on your own, well, almost any product, they have a fairly large assortment, of course, the price will be steep, because as i said, this is a separate production line, but the technologies are still the same, well , just the wiring, they also sell cosmic vodka there, people sincerely believe, we know, there are such showcases, yes, where can you pay 500 rubles or whatever you need in tubes ? , well, as i understand it, people buy this tube of vodka, and then it will go a tube of pickled cucumber, probably there for fun with friends, they tried something on a spoon, they squeezed it out, and just like that, well, this is exactly what you can buy through the bi, yes,

but you can buy the real thing there. let’s say that this is a fake, of course we don’t eat this, as you said at the very beginning of our conversation, that we still have sauces, honey, mustard, and everything in tubes, there’s nothing else, but you can buy it, well, where am i from? i tried it when we teach astronauts in practical classes, cosmonauts, cosmonauts we have real men, they won’t try it, but then he can eat it for six months, especially who has already eaten it for six months, but they will definitely, they will definitely offer it. we should try, we are also interested, because all cosmonauts like something different, some because of their official position, some, well, a little bit, sometimes it’s possible, yes, but only sometimes, oh, but the suckers are flowing, unfortunately , time is coming to an end, today we talked about the coolest, most delicious thing that is on board the iss, this is our space food. anna, how do you see a person, what will he do in space in 50 years, well, let’s hope that in 50 years we will definitely leave our solar system, well, i

don’t mean all the inhabitants of planet earth, but at least cosmonauts and astronauts , i think that we should already get there little by little, at least somewhere beyond the pluto, well, the main question is why, we have not yet answered this question, why, now this is such a figurative answer for the development of science, but when we we will understand exactly why when we discover some planet, some interesting substance, not mars, then, well, i think, what’s next, it seems to me? well, this is my purely personal opinion , that it will still be necessary to delve a little further into it, yes, when we answer the question: why, then we will have this development of science, and the development of cosmonautics of everything, but for now we fly around our earth, not at all at a great distance, but at the same time we have science every day, in space science, yes, but science moves forward every day, and this is now important, valuable, that’s why it’s so important to do what you’re doing now,

to popularize space. so that in the future there will be more engineers, more people who are interested in astronautics, as in the meaning of life, okay, thank you, my guest was anna toshcheva, an employee of the cosmonaut training center, a specialist in space nutrition, i’m anton shkaplerov, this was a space podcast stories, all episodes of the podcast lab project you can watch on the website of the first channel 1.ru. hello, on air news in the studio sergey tugushev. today in our country for the first time a new memorable date is celebrated - the day of reunification with russia, the donetsk and lugansk people's republics, the zaporozhye and kherson regions. exactly a year ago, september 30th. in 2022

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