[000:00:00;00] turns to say, because, well, i think that we are still people, we are still the same as everyone else, visually, we have the same arms, the same legs, but just yes, we are different in that maybe we got in the type of activity in which we would realize, and ourselves, it’s just luck, well, that’s...’ also in many ways, like there you were, put in place like that, doing something there, like that it worked out, well, that is, anyway, well, from what you’re saying, it’s not entirely true, because you still have to work, well of course, this is in any case, i just know many athletes who worked very hard, bet their whole lives on this, but

were simply unlucky. that is, you have never felt offended, maybe because of the amount of bullshit that is poured out on you on the internet, of course, there are moments when you just laugh, and it’s like, well, what kind of nonsense is this, anyway? another moment, a lack of understanding for what, you don’t even know, you do your job, every day, there is a person, a subhuman, who finds some kind of nonsense, a subhuman, it’s just people are offended by something, perhaps, or perhaps they are dissatisfied with something in themselves, some complexes, or perhaps they just don’t like me visually, that is, well, there are

moments when, well, it seems to me that this is very philosophical conversation, i don’t like it, let’s say you may not like me, but you won’t write to me in the comments tronkov, uh, hit yourself against the wall, that’s right, no, or i wrote, so i even have to answer, why did i write, why did i write , yes, just do the gluing, no, i really love it, here it is for me i like it when i, in this regard , like alexey konstantinovich, who can afford everything. there to respond to some comments, in fact , this is psychological, well, it kind of helps psychologically when you respond to a person, but you , uh, you can already objectively tell the person why and figure it out, i’m like a person all the time who loves to delve into himself and figure out why a person behaves this way towards me, i want to ask all the time

why or there come to me, ask or say something and we’ll talk, i communicate calmly, as if openly, with everyone , you know, a lot is mine, all my schedules, yes, where i’m going, come, but for some reason this hasn’t happened yet, because that all the fear is in the pants, well, i need to clarify that alexey konstantinovich is alexey konstantinovich egudin, olympic champion 2002. he can answer different people’s armchair critics, and when you’re a little girl and you read some things, now you’re not a little girl, but now you were already a little girl once, well, i just locked myself in to myself, i said very little, practically didn’t give interviews, and didn’t communicate with anyone , i only spoke with my grandmother, with coaches, did you

ever cry because of... hurtful comments, i want to say no, like a strong girl, but yes, well, for those who have just joined us, let me remind you that this is a free program podcast, my name is maxim tronkov, well, my guest is the olympic champion, alina zagitova, tell me a little about this olympics, about your triumphant one, you are the same small, it turns out she was on these. in our team, yeah, you were a stick daughter, or well, maybe someone helped you, picked you up, it was at the olympics, i didn’t communicate with anyone except the coaches, that is, you came to do your job and yes, i didn’t communicate with anyone, i didn’t go anywhere, i lived with georgievna, all the girls now say how it is, but it’s true, it was an interesting experience, and teya georgievna just

lived... near the front door, and i lived a little further, and i just passed by, everyone once, when there was a gym in the village, i... the gym, there it was necessary to open the door, but she was naturally there, she started squeak, girton immediately comes out, like, where did you go, there’s a burger, well, like, girton told me, i’m going to the gym, well, that is , then i understood, i didn’t even go there, where - where is all the food, yes, the canteen is not i came in so as not to tempt myself in any way, that is, don’t you think that you... were placed this way on purpose in order to be controlled, i don’t know, even if this is so, i am grateful to the person who placed me in this way, because the result on the face, yes, you spoke very touchingly about the first form you received,

and in general, when i talk with the guys , well, mostly they are guys younger than me, i live a lot of warm memories, because i had the same moments, that is, i also remember my first equipment. i remember how i called my dad there from a payphone and said that my dad had finally given me a uniform, and now, that is, 2018, you are getting olympic equipment, you already have a ticket not for the train to yezhevsk, you are in a hurry from watching, and you have a plane ticket to korea, yeah, you remember it like something in your heart it was that you really, these moments. very vague, because at that moment i was not thinking about equipment, but about where i was going, that is, such thoughts flashed through, yes, they

are like that anyway, and like it or not, they will be, but i tried to avoid them as much as possible take myself and think only about training, the only thing i remember is that i thought only about training, about the plan. i didn’t think about anything, i listened to the coaches, followed all their instructions, everything, that is, it’s wise, yes, it bothered me, at my first olympics, the euphoria that i felt, well, i tried to restrain myself, i think i got up so much that i didn’t have such thoughts, in any case it was joy and there my grandmother began to say, can you imagine, this is the olympics. games or my mother started, like that, stop, and i just went to my room, locked the key, that’s it, watched all sorts of tv series, comedies, but after

the olympics, when it came to the realization that well, you did it, that you are now olympic champion, i didn't have time to realize this exactly when they put it on. the medal for this one was already put on by the metalplazas, i look at it, i realize, then i realized for a second, then there were some events, some interviews that fell on me as much as possible simply because i was all this the path was followed by a maximally closed person, but here you have to open up, and you don’t understand how it is, you see new people, they... want something from you, in general, this happened, but this is not taught or trained, this they don’t teach or train, it’s all experience, but you have changed since 2018, i think it’s better to ask people who walked this

path of mine from beginning to end. purely internally, i think, like it or not, your worldview will still change, your understanding of the world, life makes you strong and wise. a person who must pass any obstacles with his head held high, but he shouldn’t even, i probably don’t like this word, maybe you don’t owe anything to anyone, why, i owe it to my children, i owe it to my family, no, you don't have to, you want to, uh, today, you and i are talking, i still have to make it as comfortable as possible for you to communicate, you want to make it so that i feel comfortable, i want and need to, okay, i won’t argue with you, okay, i don’t care to anyone i shouldn’t, and we don’t owe anyone anything. alina, thank you for coming today, highlighting our wonderful broadcast, sharing very interesting stories with us, especially from your childhood, it was definitely very interesting for me, i want to wish you not to stop, to also

fearlessly throw yourself into any pool, try absolutely any undertakings, and may you have success in everything and may only luck accompany you. thank you very much, it was a pleasure to be here. today for an interview with you, everything went great, don’t worry, and maxim leonidovich, that’s it, we’ll see you now, it’s not for nothing that at the beginning of our broadcast i called you invincible, because we always follow all your successes, and this is really true, undefeated and invincible alina zagitova, our guest here on the lab podcast on the first, i’m maxim tronkov, and i say goodbye to

you. hello, dear tv viewers, you are watching the podcast triggers with you, its leading psychologist tatyana krasnovskaya, psychologists , psychotherapist sergei nasebyan is visiting us today maria, hello, maria, hello, tell us what you came to us with? i am currently 35 years old, i live with my mother, i have never had one. decisions and have never been married , i don’t have children either, in the future i would plan to start my own family, i would like to, but i don’t want to leave my mother alone, my mother is 68 years old, she is a single pensioner, she sits at home all the time, alone, somehow she has no friends, no girlfriends, not even pets , nothing, and i really don’t want to leave her alone, it seems to me that this is somehow cruel, i am a very ematic person, very

good, it’s hard for me to decide whether i should build my own happiness, my family, or continue to live with my mother, but then i kind of sacrifice my future, my possibly family happiness, in general, you are a good daughter, in some ways , maybe, maybe, i don’t know, not 100%, but you came to us so that how we can help you helped, do you think, i’m at a dead end in this situation, i don’t know how this problem is solved, that is, it’s either way, as if there’s a choice, either mom or... my family, there’s definitely one, and one thing is worth another, in the sense that you pay for one thing for another, this is a fact, but i asked a slightly different question, so you sat, watched, probably saw a podcast, yes, and you thought, oh, i’ll go tell my story, that’s how you think about how, uh, should change after this, listen to another person’s opinion, that is, about how, what they are, maybe, i don’t know, options or something related, that is, understand something for yourself based on this.

okay, have you discussed this story with any friends, colleagues, relatives, no, that is, this is the first time you ’ve actually discussed this with someone, yes, but i ’m trying to look for something on the internet myself, maybe from someone similar problems, when you find something similar, it seems that i’m not the only one with such a problem, you’re definitely not the only one, the fact is that when you say that you don’t have a relationship, i want to say, you’re lying . but i can be a little more delicate to say lukavita. when you say that your mother has no pets and no one, you are also really lying for one simple reason: you have a relationship, this relationship with your mother, and your mother has pets - that is you, that is, yourself in fact, everything is very good, it is obvious that this suits both you and her, why suddenly at some point did it no longer suit you? the power of age is that i’m 30. it still seems like my whole

life is ahead of me, the older you get, the more it seems that life is already behind you or now to create a family, someone, why did it seem to you, maria, that your previous 35 years are not as important as the next 35 years, with age you somehow become more experienced, i understand what could have happened if i had started building earlier -the relationship is serious, i could have made some mistakes , but now with age i am more conscious... well, not in relationships , more experienced, in life in general, i began to understand the best in people, it seems to me that now i already know who is bad, who good, i understand better and i won’t do anything stupid when entering into relationship, i, as a cynic, will translate what you say into human language, into a human sense, so that it is clear to everyone who is watching us now, listening, it may become clearer to you, you are actually answering my

question, giving me, well, us material for further questions, for further work, now it’s very important that you said that it’s as if your mother had fulfilled her function of protecting you from the outside world, well, i don’t know what kind of protection, what kind of protection exactly was from your mother, well, sort of i think it has always been an independent child, and it seems to me that at an age when the parents are already elderly, they demand more that... that is, the mother has already fulfilled this function, then you suddenly think about what will happen next? well , it’s more because of my age that i thought about what. but it’s not just like that, you could have come at 45, that’s why i note that for some reason it seemed to you that 35, but there, for example, it’s more important than 30, and what at 40 would you want you already had a family, although i’m almost sure that at 20 you probably thought about that it should have been at 30, well, also the fact that

i don’t have children, i want a child, and of course, the age of motherhood cannot be over 50 and so on, that is, this is... approximately now is the age when this the chance, perhaps, is there to create children, but why do you need a family other than having a child? it seems to me that maybe i’m thinking about my family for selfish reasons, because it seems to me that i’m very unloved, and it seems to me that my husband and children are the ones who can give me what i don’t have enough, that's enough love, some kind of respect, to fill out this post, lack of love, your mother? doesn't he love you? i don’t know, well, that is, it’s difficult for me to answer this question, because, well, i don’t know the words, the words i love you, she never told me, but even if she did, it might be formal, but i focus more on some actions, i don’t know , i can’t understand, i can even answer this question for myself, i would also be interested

, maybe she loves me or not, but here i am i don’t know, but what kind of actions you are guided by, and i am guided by even everyday life, well, let’s say, while i’m sleeping, she doesn’t... doesn’t turn on the tv loudly, she probably means to take care of me, so as not to disturb my sleep, let’s say , i don’t know, maybe this is an indicator of love, care, maybe not, maybe respect, it could be both, but look how interesting, you know, when a person, when asked, for example, whether you love husband, wife, or whether you feel love from your husband, wife, mother, it doesn’t matter, begins to philosophize. that's how you are now you start to give some examples, and you confuse yourself in these reasonings, for me this is always a signal of an answer, no, i don’t feel it, because when a person, for example, i ask you, do you like pilaf, yes,

you love watermelon, watch how you find the answers, however, i won’t ask you, of course, whether you like watermelon when you eat it, but watch how you find the answers in a completely different place, pay attention, by looking at... ... to myself, yeah, here i ask if your mother loves you, there, yes, and you start to leave in reasoning, that is, it’s not the wrong place to look for the answer, where it really is, i understand, because it’s very difficult to tell myself that i don’t feel my mother’s love, or i miss it, yes, i don’t feel it, well, that was honest, and you have been living with your mother for 35 years, and you are not sure if she loves you, you don’t feel that she loves you, how do you deal with this, well, i seem to have come to terms with it, probably after 35 years. i had periods when i experienced this, i thought that there might be some reason in me or a reason in me that my mother was like this, i wanted my mother to be happy that everything was fine with my mother, and i was looking for some reasons in myself, then i somehow calmed down, i realized that she’s probably just that kind of person, and it doesn’t

concern me in any way, that’s just how she is, you just have to accept it and move on with your life, if i ask you how it is... to be you, how will you answer? tense, i’m such a very tense, reserved person, responsible, that is , what feelings make up your day, i don’t know, during the day, if there is one, i’m rather tired of some kind from work, from all the worries, one thing you definitely admit, and you didn’t say it yourself, is that you are always tense, but it’s hard for me to relax, super, let’s just try to rewind from this, it’s tense. it’s like tense up now even more than you are tense, more, yeah, what kind of emotion stands before this tension that makes you tense, well , it’s probably that you need to be on alert all the time so that everything is, and the emotion , well, fear, great, maria answered your question, yes,

thank you, look how interesting, sorry, that i am now talking about you in the third person, how interesting, masha formulates the thought, yes, that is. masha does everything to phenomenally avoid touching the feelings, but there is a very great benefit from the fact that you feel the body so well, even through tension, because the body will give you a huge number of clues, i hope today we are like since we can help you in this sense, how can you use your body to cope with the tasks that you set for yourself? fear, let’s get back to it, what are you afraid of? not exactly what it is just some kind of fear, it’s more likely that something will go wrong, that i won’t do something in time , that i didn’t do something, these are thoughts, feelings, feelings, there is no such thing as a feeling, something will go wrong, i

even it’s difficult for me, how to have some feelings, i even have an imagination, why is it so difficult for you, but i would still like you to unpack yourself, with feelings it may not be very good, yes, i am a very practical person, feeling, this is of course not my territory, not yours and mom’s, for again probably not the feeling that i’m some kind of person, maybe not like that, if i won’t do something, it’s a thought. look, all these or the feeling of not being loved, if i do something wrong to me, those around me are also afraid that they will not love me, if i do something wrong, look, it’s still fear, i call it fear and it may sound very negative for you , yes to some extent, and i understand perfectly well that you would not want to feel fear from your mother, anxiety, well, in the sense of danger that could come from her, because this is mom, how can you be afraid of her or how can you suspect her of wanting to do something bad? i don’t know, i’m not afraid of her, i have no fear, of course you’re not afraid

anymore, she’s 68, you’re 35, you can kill her if you go in, physically, you just agreed with yourself not to feel it, not on purpose, maria, tell me a little please about your family , dad, mom, i don’t know my dad, so, that is, he left when my mom was pregnant with me, yeah. and we lived with my grandmother before, that is, grandmother, mother and i, the three of us, grandmother has been gone for about ten years, why are your parents broke up, my grandmother was against their relationship, that is, let’s say, she separated them, but did you and your mother ever talk about this? no, it’s somehow not customary for us to have such direct spiritual communication, in our family it’s like there’s no such thing, for some reason, well, in the sense that there’s just no dad and no dad, you’re just growing up, see? well, yes, i just heard that this is how the stories tell me why, that is, that my grandmother kicked him out, my grandmother kicked him out, i don’t know anything else, but i’m

somehow such a person, it’s very difficult for me why something to ask in the family questions, i’m a very correct person, and somehow i have to get into something personal , something is just right for me, i mean, your family is called correctness, well, because somehow they don’t tell each other any personal problems in the family and it seems as if if i start asking some questions, it’s as if i’m in the soul. i’m asking a person, maybe if a person doesn’t tell it himself , it means he probably doesn’t want to, that’s why you live like this, it’s nice, like a neighbor, that is, you are three generations of a family, women, three generations of women, you lived all together, the grandmother is also without her husband, i still don’t know, that is, my grandfather personally, i don’t know him, you are three generations of women living in one house, yeah, yes, the way you lived, the way your life was organized , my mother and her mother, that is, with my grandmother, were in conflict all the time. they always had some kind of fights, well, there was no, as they say, there was no national separation, they always

had some kind of conflicts, what did you do at that moment when mom and mom were fighting, i don’t have such an understanding of right, wrong, well here it is they conflict and there is most likely no fear when this happens every day, of course, what were you experiencing at that moment, when there were conflicts between them, i don’t even know what i was directly experiencing. there weren’t these conflicts, i don’t know, there might even be some kind of resentment about why they could n’t live together normally, how often did you become the cause of their conflict, i don’t know what the reason for their conflicts was, otherwise , that it was me, that is, in everyday life, they didn’t get along in character, let’s say, something grandma wants one thing, mom wants something else in used why didn’t she leave grandma, why did they all survive together? but i don’t know, that is, she was a very , well, angry grandmother, that is, so harsh, yes, a person, her grandmother had a difficult childhood, so she

was a very difficult person, and well, my mother was in a fit of these fights, scandals, she wanted to, i don’t know, give up everything, go somewhere, she went out into the street with me and a few hours ago she still came back, she thought, i found letters her correspondence with men, as before... she didn’t have telephones , she corresponded with letters, that is, she tried to find somewhere to get away from her grandmother, because she was such a difficult person, she wanted to leave her somewhere to find a man, she would only like to have somewhere to go, uh-huh, so it didn’t end, she didn’t find it, no, somehow it didn’t end in anything, it turns out that your mother didn’t have a relationship before your eyes either, she didn’t, your grandmother didn’t have it before your eyes either, she didn’t have it, that is, your mother served your grandmother. now you are serving your mother, uh-huh, uh-huh, and when you found these letters, you read them, what was happening to you,

i was very scared at that moment, because i... understood that these were absolutely strangers, absolutely strangers, adults, and that my mother could go to some completely stranger man , whom she knows only through correspondence and with me, with a small child, that it is unknown what kind of man it will be, what if he, i don’t know, hits or something else - then i was scary, that is, a man is some kind of dangerous story, but relationships with men, well, not always, but especially if like this, just to go where to go, you don’t know a perfect person. that is, if i knew a person, if he was somewhere among our environment, i would already know that this person is normal, he can be trusted, he is kind and i would not have such fear, but just some kind of person by correspondence, which i don’t know, if you follow your logic, so to speak, then live with your grandmother, who constantly fights with your mother, live with your mother, who constantly fights with her mother is safer than living with another person, yes,

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i can understand, but maybe i’ll offend her, and that i’m... i’m afraid to offend her, she’s very vulnerable, she can cry over any nonsense, so what and what? come on, what are you really afraid of, what? if your mother looks, plus or minus, just like you, i can imagine what your evenings look like, you are sitting under a lampshade , preferably in the shade, so that god forbid you don’t fall into that bright spot on the table, because suddenly your mother will see that you have i have a manicure , she will be offended that she doesn’t have one, maybe i already understood, i already understood that, if i love some new thing, maybe she doesn’t have this thing, how did i guess? how do you think i guessed? i’ve been trying to show you one simple thing for 20 minutes now, that you don’t feel anything other than fear , it’s just that it has become so normal for you that

being fearless you are, well, not that fearless, like well, you perceive a space where there is no fear more dangerous than a place where there is a specific fear, a very understandable fear, because here the rules are clear, here the rails on which you and your mother are clear. ride back and forth, every day is like the previous one, and each next one will be similar to this one. thank god that you came here, this goes far beyond the boundaries of your ordinary realities, when i shout at you that you feel, that you expect changes from me, that i feel exactly, why did you change your face twice when i raised my tone, you’ve already told me everything, i want you to learn to pronounce it to yourself, i’m not a conflict person, even if you raise your voice at me... rather, well, what’s happening to you at this moment, before you pull away, there was another emotion,

at first you had a feeling, you just started to feel something, maybe you were a little offended, maybe you were, maybe you even wanted to get angry somewhere, yes, but then you turned on a little girl who you can scream, which can be led, because it doesn’t exist, it’s porcelain, i’m just usually aggressive, i usually pull away, and i’m not an aggressive person, that is, i don’t respond with aggression to an aggressive one, your usual mechanism, your strategy, freeze, you narrow to the level of a small cell, freeze and you turn off all your feelings, you’re tense as usual, of course, because god forbid you feel something, god forbid at least some feeling comes out, and then you don’t know what to expect from yourself, oh well, from yourself, there you don’t know what to expect from your mom, because you can’t upset your mom, right? yes, i don’t want to upset her in any way, of course, you can’t let your mother down , god forbid you betray her, and your marriage will be a betrayal of your mother, yes, then there are two

options, or you’re just waiting for time to do all its work for you , she will die, well perhaps you will have 10 years left to live, or, i’m afraid that she won’t survive my hunt and family, it’s very possible that you will hasten her death, or what? this is hard, then wait, we really have better and better medicine now, so she will live a long time, well, in general, you will live a long time, life there will just be so-so, but you can wait, it certainly won’t will survive, because because of you, to a large extent because of you, i think, as she explains herself, at least this is how she most likely did not live, she froze and you froze along with her, you will most likely do the same now, you will come off the air and think, my god, what? it was, it wasn’t me, it was someone else who was there, you will go under your lampshade, this will continue, i want my mother to be happy, so that she has some kind of life of her own, well, she probably, well

doesn’t want her to be happy and so that i can leave her, mom is happy when you are around, mom is happy when you are her pet, that’s how happy mom is now, you agree to leave theirs, i would not say that she... is just a happy person, that is , it seems to me that she is the person who also really needs a psychologist, but she will never go to a psychologist, but because she is not not happy man, that’s how you lived, three unhappy women, then there were two unhappy women, then there will be one , because most likely you will end this family with yourself, because you most likely, as tatyana rightly says, will not change anything, because that you will happily return to your usual aquarium, serpanteri, i would even say. you see, you will return, and you will find it, well, not to say great, but it will definitely be calm there, at least in that aquarium, you can be sure that

you know what can happen, you will cope with what could happen, and the degree of your tension, well, it’s quite bearable, that if it became unbearable, you would have broken it all off a long time ago, but please tell me, you said that it’s not... then you don’t have there was a serious relationship like you, yes they are were you serious? well, there were no relationships, that is, if only dates with men, but there were never relationships. in the sense of long-term, it turns out, yes, that is, you came on the first date , you came on the second date, yes, or are you talking about a sexual relationship, several dates, no, these are more platonic, absolutely relationships, well, just how to communicate more quickly, yeah , well, after all, it ’s about communicating over a period of time, it was like this, either one date or several dates, okay, let’s do it remember your prince, with whom you had at least five dates, it was like

that, a prince, then a prince, well, that is , it was just a person who invited me on a date, yes, you went on a date, you went to restaurants, maybe they kissed there, i don’t know, they walked down the street , yes, well, this man, here he was, yes, this was like an opportunity to build a relationship, it didn’t even lead us to anything, of course , that is, he was so slightly complex in character and uh-huh, he himself even stopped these dates, uh-huh, it’s clear, but... but it turns out that you never let a person into your life who would come there for what is called seriously for a long time, not that you didn’t let him in, he didn’t exist, that is, there wasn’t such a thing, that someone just wanted to knock on my life, or on my heart, but i don’t let him in, that is, someone must come, and you are like rapunzel, which means you are in a fortress, and he must come to conquer, but then i mean a person who would like me, who would want to communicate with me, go on

dates, well, that’s how it was. yes, who are you? you work as a courier, well, so you communicate with people, you travel on public transport, yes, that is, there are men, men somehow still exist in this world, well, through such acquaintances as social networks and meeting people on the street, i i don’t trust you, how can i get to know you, i don’t understand if it’s through some kind of interest somewhere, where i ’ve been, say, for a longer time, but am i somewhere? when i’m at work, or if i go somewhere, i may have some interests of my own, well , i’m hanging out with friends, let’s say, or i have friends, yes, friends, acquaintances, have a girlfriend, so yeah, well, you go somewhere there, some men meet there, they are also new, what is the difference between meeting, for example, in transport, meeting at an exhibition, or in a restaurant , the fact that you can like me there by talking to me a little, how can you like me on the street? only if

it’s external, it’s just so interesting, and you view all acquaintances, in general all contacts with men, through the prism that a man must first see you, be charmed, get through everything your obstacles, to win your heart and take you away, but there i never heard that a man might like you, i am a very amorous person, i will like every second one, that i am yes, i am very amorous. well , why don’t you open it while we’re standing? well, i don’t know whether a person likes me or not, i can’t force myself to say, ask someone out there for a date, maybe he’s not interested in me, you understand that you actually build relationships with these men the same as with mom, when it’s just scary, as you said, to draw into the soul, that is, you are afraid, or even to offend because maybe i realize that i like someone and somehow offend them, so you are all deceiving, this is virtuoso skill?

look at it from this side, like the truth with which tatyana offers you, and perhaps you will see that you are true, you build relationships with all people, and according to the principle, in order not to interfere, you have learned not to interfere with your mother, and diligently do n’t disturb others, there is such a thing in this, yes, what not to disturb, let’s put it this way, i was taught this, so as not to disturb anyone, to be quieter, so that don't disturb your neighbors, well, this... i have this, because otherwise, what will happen if you interfere? others will be upset, who am i bothering, they will be uncomfortable, what will they do, they will be uncomfortable, they will not like it, what will they do, mash? well, maybe they won’t do anything, but inside it will make them feel uncomfortable, you’re simply afraid that it will be uncomfortable for them, to do something bad to other people, what should i do if you do something bad to me, as i should, what kind of my reaction are you afraid of? how do you know if i'm feeling bad?

what, i will upset you, disturb you, somehow, how will you find out that this is so? you must have some kind of feedback signal, just biofeedback, how will i not know, how will you know that you have upset me? i’ll never know, but i’ll think that you will be uncomfortable, like your mother showed you, that you upset her when you were little, when you’re little, you make noise, bother the neighbors, what will happen, i constantly upset my mother, i’m for it myself? i just left the house, that is, she left me in the yard and said, be in the yard, i’ll do it there now i’ll call you to eat, and i was leaving, i could have gone to another area somewhere during this time. now you blame yourself, what happened then, then i didn’t understand it, i didn’t find your feelings, how did you understand what you did, something was wrong, no way, i didn’t understand why she

was upset because of this , nothing terrible happened, i’m just walking, she gets upset, she cries, scolds you, well , she doesn’t scold you, she just cries hysterically, and says that it’s because of you, you don’t understand what this is and i don't understand why he was so upset because i just went for a walk, well, i mean, i’m just walking , it’s okay, don’t go anymore, that’s why you don’t leave anymore, wow, you ’re really afraid of upsetting her more than anything else in the world, but to predict, how can you upset you can’t, so just in case you don’t do anything, i’ll pay, i have cashback up to 25% in rubles, amazonbank, look. and how many clients do you have here? already more than 25 million, do you have 100% cashback? well, yes, you can return the entire amount of purchases, wow, pizza for the entire office, mini pizza, amazonbank up to 25% rubles, the opportunity to return up to 100% of expenses and free card services, this is

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you to do ivf and get pregnant there from the holy spirit or from some unknown man, well, she doesn’t even touch on the topic of children, that is, she never told me..., like other children are told about grandchildren, she doesn’t need, well, that’s right, but it’s better not to do anything change, everything is very convenient, the floor lamp and you are around in the twilight, why do you need children, why does your mother need children, it just doesn’t fit into this, neither children, nor husbands, nor men, no one fits in, you understand that you don’t you can build your life without upsetting your mother, but this is what’s eating me, are you ready? mom, are you ready to leave mom with her feelings and emotions? no, it seems to me that she will not survive this. mash, whether she will survive this or not, you will only find out if you do it; in general, everything should have been done much